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Going Deep: “It’s Entirely Possible That Nowhere in North America is a Safe Redoubt”
SHTF Plan ^ | 6-13-2012 | Eric Peters

Posted on 06/13/2012 9:08:22 AM PDT by blam

Going Deep: “It’s Entirely Possible That Nowhere in North America is a Safe Redoubt”

Eric Peters
June 13th, 2012
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Some friends have been actively talking about their Exit Plans – about getting out of this country before the curtain goes down. While there is still time. They believe the situation to be hopeless. That despite the upwelling of liberty-mindedness among some, the vast majority of Americans are not liberty-minded. That Americans – tens of millions of them – are stupid, unreachable, mean, irrational, authoritarian-minded Babbits and poltroons. People who always speak in “we” – and lust to control others.

Reluctantly, I have to concede the point.

I have had exhaustive (and exhausting) conversations with countless people – some of them probably a lot smarter than I in terms of raw IQ – who just can’t connect the dots.

Or – much worse – don’t care to.

The problem is as much psychological as it is intellectual. There may just be a defective sub-species of human being, homo servilus, who – much like a bee in a hive – is programmed to crave the collective and therefore accepts its corollary – coercion – as the natural and right order of things.

It’s very easy to get these “bees” to reveal their true natures. Their core antipathy to individualism – and its corollary, liberty. Just let them know, for example, that you find sports/celebrity worship disgusting. Or that you don’t subscribe to any particular religious doctrine – or much care what doctrines otherssubscribe to, so long as they leave you be.

Let them discover that you don’t feel obliged to pay more taxes for “our children” – only an obligation to take care of your own children. Criticize war.

Make a negative comment about cops… .

So, I don’t disagree that jumping ship is probably a smart move. Nonetheless, I’m reluctant to leave the country, for many reasons – high among them just orneriness. This is my country, dammit. I hate the idea of just giving it to … them.

That said, I am beginning to wish I’d “gone deep” when I selected our fallback redoubt. We consciously moved to very rural SW Va. from the Northern Virginia area (near DC) about eight years ago to a great extent to limit our exposure to what’s surely coming. But I am thinking now that we would have been smarter to have moved to rural Idaho or Wyoming or Montana (like Chuck Baldwin did) instead. There are too many Clovers here.

And signs of sprouting continue to worry me.

For example: Several recent “letters to the editor” in our small community newspaper go on and on about how “we” need to raise taxes on real estate so that “our schools” will have “adequate funding.” There is one school – an elementary school in a far corner of the county – threatened with closure because of limited “revenue” and not enough students to justify keeping it open. So the idea was floated to close it and consolidate it with another. “The children” would then get bussed a little farther to their new school. This is an outrage to the parentsites of these children, who believe others should be compelled to provide the necessary “revenue” to keep the old school open for their children.

Everything discussed in terms of “we,” of course. It’s never my children need you to pay for their school.

If I were to speak at a public hearing about this and ask why don’t people who chose to have children bear the responsibility for raising their kids – which includes educating their kids – as opposed to their kids becoming an open-ended claim on the property – on the liberty – of other people who had nothing to do with it… I’d likely be the victim of a mob beating. At minimum, I’d become a community pariah – regarded as “selfish” and “anti-child” (as well as “anti-education”) … because I am troubled by armed men threatening to kill me and take my property so that it may be given to someone else’s kids – kids I’ve never even met let alone had anything to do with bringing into this world. It is no defense, either, that such a policy makes it that much harder for people who’d like to pay their own way to do so.

Other people’s kids take precedence. Over everything.

It never occurs to these “freedom loving” Americans that freedom can’t exist when you are no longer free to say no to being forced to hand over your rightful property to other people to whom you properly speaking owe nothing – other than goodwill. That if “the children” becomes a justification for theft, then any other reason is just as good a reason.

But don’t dare say it out loud…. these freedom-loving Americans will very quickly show you just how much they actually believe in freedom… including even the freedom to speak your mind, if your mind differs in any meaningful respect from the parameters of orthodoxical Republican or Democrat parameters.

The only cardinal sin is to commit non-authoritarianism. To state that you don’t want anything from anyone except their respect for your rights – and are willing to extend the same courtesy in return.

It is a thought increasingly foreign to Americans – even here, in a rural southern farming county 35 miles from anything in most places and often a lot farther than that.

Another example:

In our tiny, literally one-stoplight county, the same government that moans about not having sufficient “revenue” for “the children” recently spent probably several thousand dollars painting at least six “pedestrian crosswalks” in town, complete with “safety man” icons imprinted into the pavement plus signage. Apparently, people cannot cross the street unaided here, either. I have no doubt that tickets for jaywalking are right around the corner. Tazerings for the non-compliant.

Signs of the apocalypse.

There is talk of writing zoning laws – which this county has never had – and which will surely mean The End of everything that made moving here worth doing. People will no longer just be able to freely buy and sell their land, to be used however the new owner wishes. There will instead be restrictions on how a lot can subdivided – and what may be “lawfully” constructed on said lot. I can already see a time when BTK-type “zoning enforcement officers” will be knocking on people’s doors, threatening them with onerous fines (and ultimately, county seizure and auction of “their” land) if they don’t mow it, or have too many cars parked on it or a “not approved” shed built upon it… .

Clovers. The god-damn bastards are here now, too.

It only took them eight years to find this place – and ruin it.

It’s entirely possible that nowhere in North America is a safe redoubt.

What happens, ultimately, depends on the character of the people. And the character of the American people – by and large – is one that reflexively defers to authority – willingly, worshipfully. That happily submits to the most despicable degradation if it will “keep them safe.” And which never fails to speak in terms of we.

So, where do the rest of us – the remnant that still believes in I – go to get away from we?

That, friends, is the question of our time.


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To: cuban leaf

Beautiful.


41 posted on 06/13/2012 10:44:52 AM PDT by blam
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To: iopscusa

There is a ‘Clover Test’ at the author’s website...it refers to bad drivers...really bad drivers.


42 posted on 06/13/2012 10:46:12 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: blam

Patriots band together and stand your ground.


43 posted on 06/13/2012 10:58:57 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Shhh...be vewy vewy quiet

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44 posted on 06/13/2012 11:00:25 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: dljordan
“I guess the Bushes knew something when they bought their little 100,000 acre rancho in Paraguay”

Yeah, I talk about that all the time (except I thought it was Chile). Almost nobody knows about it, especially the rank and file Republican. Just as almost nobody knows that W. Bush signed the NAU with no Congressional debate or approval, essentially signing away our sovereignty. Funny how the MSM will ignore a story as long as it advances the Marxist agenda.

45 posted on 06/13/2012 11:01:42 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (The GOPe has played us like a violin for the last time; high time to build the Constitution Party.)
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To: I see my hands
>>If you beleive that after the SHTF there is anyone other than first degree blood you can trust then you are in for a rude awakening<<

You must be a city boy.

46 posted on 06/13/2012 11:02:17 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: cuban leaf

Prudy pups!


47 posted on 06/13/2012 11:04:07 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill
We used to fund our VFW...

VFD?

48 posted on 06/13/2012 11:08:07 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: bgill

Yeah, they were really friendly and had very bright blue eyes. But they were the previous owner’s. :-(


49 posted on 06/13/2012 11:11:14 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: blam
The only cardinal sin is to commit non-authoritarianism. To state that you don’t want anything from anyone except their respect for your rights – and are willing to extend the same courtesy in return.

"Messenger: All the god-king requires is a modest offering - of earth and water - a simple token of Sparta's submission to the will of Xerxes.
King Leonidas: ... Earth and water. You'll find plenty of both down there. [kicks messenger into well]"
- Frank Miller, _300_

50 posted on 06/13/2012 11:19:30 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Kartographer

And no one pinged you to this!?


51 posted on 06/13/2012 11:26:58 AM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: cuban leaf

Hey! I know where that is! I be over before the lights are out! You don’t mind if I bring some friend do you? ;-)


52 posted on 06/13/2012 11:39:18 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: servantboy777
"You must be a city boy"

Five miles from the nearest neighbor, Twenty six miles from the nearest paved road.

What does that make you? Fish Boy.


53 posted on 06/13/2012 11:39:57 AM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Home


Yes. Stand your ground. It's where we were born, grew up, and got married. It's where our children were born, and the old folks are buried. I worked too hard for this. I'll never willingly give it up. I owe it to the old folks and the little gal on that front porch to stand my ground.


54 posted on 06/13/2012 11:52:53 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: I see my hands

I live 200 miles from nearest paved road, on the Yukon in Alaska. As self sufficient as I have ever been, quite secure & happy.


55 posted on 06/13/2012 12:26:45 PM PDT by Eska
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To: who knows what evil?

I thought it was the new-age hippie types that smoke those clover cigarettes.


56 posted on 06/13/2012 12:32:49 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: cuban leaf

I wouldn’t want to be an American expat in a developing country filled with hungry people. Rural Kentucky sounds like it might be all right, at least until the desperate start driving down I-65 in convoys looking for food and shelter. No doubt folks in your part of the world will defend themselves, and no doubt the desperate will do what they need to do to survive. I don’t see anything different here in Alaska. In the end, it’s in God’s hands.


57 posted on 06/13/2012 12:37:44 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: PowderMonkey

Some say flee. Some say stay. I say just draw close to God. He’ll tell you what to do and when to do it when the time comes. It doesn’t hurt to prep. I’ve been doing it myself, just so I won’t be a burden on my children. Even a blessing maybe? But I do believe it’s coming! “The best laid plans” can all fall apart. God knows what He’s doing. He knows how many hairs you have on your blessed head. Trust Him. He loves you and your very precious family (more than you do). Trust Him and go forth with Courage!


58 posted on 06/13/2012 12:46:33 PM PDT by sueQ
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To: cuban leaf
Not to say that I don't have preparations, but I'm not running to some new place where I don't know the weather patterns, critters, plants, etc....

I was born and raised here fity-mumble years ago, been all over the world, and I'm back. Not leaving again so folks can shoot at me, or to stand in line for chow. I've done my time doing that.

/johnny

59 posted on 06/13/2012 12:49:58 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: blam; WVNan
It took me a while, but I found the reference to "Clovers" on an obscure website:

The Clover Test

An excerpt: The true Clover, you see, is not merely a bad driver. He is a bad driver on a tear; angry at the world and in particular, anyone who doesn’t view the world in/through Clover-colored glasses. That would be anyone who doesn’t automatically worship The Law (any law; every law) or who isn’t consumed by a desire to make sure everyone else obeys The Law.

Basically, the Clover mentality is that of the sheep, slavishly conforming to society, and scorning those who don't.

60 posted on 06/13/2012 1:01:42 PM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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