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In Case You Don't Like Romney... A Challenge To Every FReeper
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Posted on 06/13/2012 2:03:43 PM PDT by MindBender26

In Case You Don't Like Romney...

Columnist Andrew McCarthy gives us what probably is the most important question regarding the upcoming presidential election …

“If Romney wins the nomination, as seems very likely, I will enthusiastically support his candidacy. For my friends who may have hesitation on that score, I’d just ask you to keep four things in mind:

1.. Justice Scalia just turned 78

2.. Justice Kennedy will turn 78 later this year

3.. Justice Breyer will be 76 in August

4.. Justice Ginsburg turned 81 about a week ago and has had cancer twice.

Whoever we elect as president in November is almost certainly going to choose at least one and maybe more new members of the Supreme Court — in addition to hundreds of other life-tenured federal judges, all of whom will be making momentous decisions about our lives for decades to come.

If you don’t think it matters whether the guy making those calls is Mitt Romney or Barack Obama, I think you’re smokin’ something funky….”

So for anybody who is thinking of not voting because your favorite didn’t get nominated, or writing in a candidate who can't win ... just imagine this possibility:

'SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ERIC HOLDER'

Did that get your attention!


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To: DallasSun

Thank you. It is nice to be here. For the most part I am well. I have a bit of a problem which I don’t know how to describe to the docs so they can analyze and treat it. Quite literally, I spent two-and-a-half months and a few thousand dollars (in addition to what the insurance may have paid) and at the end of the time, the doc said, “I can’t find a thing wrong.” But, I know the problem is there and my family knows it. Hmmmmm.

Are you well?


201 posted on 06/13/2012 5:31:20 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: Gay State Conservative

Ya know, one thing I’ve realized here on FR, is that most people here have enough political sense not to deliberately shoot off their own foot by refusing to vote against obomo. The folks on FR that are ready to load and take aim at their own feet are good people believing they are doing right for how they believe and for them, perhaps that is so.

Fortunately, looking at who posts what, they are a small group on FR, maybe 3 or 4 score that show up on every thread discussing who to vote for, and most probably live in a solidly red or blue state so they can vote however they please and do no harm.

Romney is the choice if you wish to rid our Republic of the curse of the socialist obomo. He is certainly not the choice I would have pre\ferred - but then, there was never a viable alternative who ran that had a chance, any chance, to best obomo.

You folks in non-battleground states go and vote however you please, with pride. I’m in Georgia, a red state, but I will still vote for Romney b/c how much he wins by will also matter. We need to elect Rs all down the ticket to better roll back obomo’s progressive/socialist policies.

They aren’t called battleground states for nothing. If you vote in one and don’t vote Romney, don’t come whining around here when obomo packs the SCOTUS with more black-robed bringers of death to our Republic. When the EPA runs wild with more job killing regulations. When our military is further gutted just like Jimmy Carter did. When amnesty is enacted not by law but ignoring the laws already on our books. When more millions fall into poverty and onto the public dole, many of which will never again fend for themselves financially. When the national debt piles ever higher and deeper as Bernake enacts yet another round of inflationary quantatative easing. When health care costs go way up and services go way down and granny gets the plug pulled on her....

But we know how it will go. The same folks railing against Romney will be the squeakiest and loudest wheels screeching about blaming all the ills of the next four years on the GOPe or some such crap. Wake up and smell the coffee. We either vote against obomo or we vote for him. I choose to vote for our Reepublic and against obomo.


202 posted on 06/13/2012 5:33:13 PM PDT by citizen (Obomo blames:Arab Spring,Banks,Big Oil,Bush,Ceos,Coal,Euro Zone,FNC,Jpn Tsunami,T Party,Wall St,You)
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To: MindBender26

Bump to the top!


203 posted on 06/13/2012 5:35:15 PM PDT by fanfan (.http://www.ontariolandowners.ca/index.php?p=1_50_Your-Rights)
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To: citizen

NO to Mr. RomneyCARE

NO to RINOs.

NO to LIARS.

NO to Backstabbers like Bishop RomneyCARE and
his Troop of trained attackers against Conservatives.


204 posted on 06/13/2012 5:36:21 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: trisham

thanks, trisham


205 posted on 06/13/2012 5:36:56 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: MindBender26

I have been on the opposite side of this argument since day one. Now, I agree with you, not necessarily on the merits of the argument presented here but because we must not allow Obama to have a second term to continue to do wanton damage to this nation and it’s institutions.

If Romney fails to live up to constitutional standards, then we remove him in 2016. We will not reclaim the nation in one election and we must not allow our distaste of Romney to stand in the way of winning this important battle.

And may God forgive me if I am wrong.


206 posted on 06/13/2012 5:42:23 PM PDT by PoliticalArsonist
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To: MindBender26

There is danger in posting anything pro-Romney on this site. Considering some of these comments it might be best if we kept our thoughts to ourselves...I fear for our country.


207 posted on 06/13/2012 5:44:23 PM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: NE Cons

I will vote only for conservatives. Neither Obama or Romney are conservatives.


208 posted on 06/13/2012 5:45:24 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: MindBender26

How about neither? Works for me. Your vote is yours. My vote is mine.


209 posted on 06/13/2012 5:49:40 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: MindBender26

You are not going to persuade people by insulting them. Insults are not persuasive.


210 posted on 06/13/2012 5:53:39 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: DallasSun; All

Here’s a good sign of support. Campaigns cost m-o-n-e-y. My little $35 to Romney don’t mean much (but I hope there are a million other $35 contributions)

Adelson Gives $10 Million to Pro-Romney Super PAC

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/06/13/adelson-gives-10-million-to-pro-romney-super-pac/


211 posted on 06/13/2012 6:00:54 PM PDT by citizen (Obomo blames:Arab Spring,Banks,Big Oil,Bush,Ceos,Coal,Euro Zone,FNC,Jpn Tsunami,T Party,Wall St,You)
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To: P-Marlowe; MindBender26; SoConPubbie; trisham; cripplecreek
Romney will probably appoint the next David Souter or John Paul Stevens or Earl Warren or all three....He is not going to win by getting my vote.

Mine either.

There will be so many disappointed in him if he gets elevated. Hope they don't do what the typical liberal does....claim they didn't vote for him.

His appointees will depend on the Senate. Unless it's an overwhelmingly conservative Senate lacking Rinos, then in his first term we'll be treated to judicial appointees who have little record but are covert liberals. If there were a 2nd term it would be blatant liberals.

212 posted on 06/13/2012 6:04:37 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: trisham

And I agree with you, trisham, agreeing with the others re: SoConPubbie.


213 posted on 06/13/2012 6:06:03 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: xzins

Reagan wasn’t a conservative by some peoples standards.


214 posted on 06/13/2012 6:10:00 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mnehring

“Every election cycle, same old scare.

Last time I checked, we are living the real outcome of that scare. With as bad as McCain was, think of all the things we wouldn’t be living through right now if he was elected.”

Yep, voted for Juan for Supreme reasons... Same old scare. He was my Last RINO.


215 posted on 06/13/2012 6:11:38 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Romney, despite his opposition to same-sex marriage...

Yet he recently told the Washington Post here that he believes:

"If two people of the same gender want to live together, want to have a loving relationship, even want to adopt a child ... in my view, that's something which people have the right to do, but to call that marriage is, in my view, a departure from the real meaning of the word."

What statists like Romney mean by "right" is to deny adoption agencies the right to refuse to give a child entrusted to them to a homosexual couple. If you are a landlord who would just as soon not accommodate open homosexual lifestyles in your community and refused to rent to a gay or lesbian couple who wanted to "start a family," the statist mindset of Romney is to punish you because Romney agrees with the premise that discriminating that way is immoral, and that the government has a role in preventing it.

That is enforcing a gay "right" at the sacrifice of your right to make choices you consider moral.

Hate of someone else is a real bad reason to vote for that.

ABO is risking having it in the White House as the Republican party's most powerful representative -- even worse, risking a landslide of votes for Romney that would most likely be spun into another Mitt Myth, of being elected because he was loved -- ABO would quickly be pushed into the ashheap of history.

Barring a miracle, the reality is that we're going to have one of two amoral authoritarian statists as the next president. Fear and hate are deceptive, bad guides, in choosing the best way to deal with it.

216 posted on 06/13/2012 6:12:25 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: xzins

The Obomneybots can share the blame among themselves. I’m not accepting it.


217 posted on 06/13/2012 6:12:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I certainly understand in a blue State like California not voting for Romney out of principle. Same goes for a red State like Texas.

However, in a too close to call State, it is possible Obama
could win by a margin equal to the conservatives that refuse to vote for Romney out of principle. It is in these States such voters are essentially indicating they would rather have the First Gay President elected for another term than vote for Romney.

I have been keeping a list of States that could be too close to call according to news reports. In no particular order these States are:

Colorado
Florida
Ohio
Iowa
Virginia
North Carolina
Wisconsin
New Hampshire
Michigan
Arizona
Nevada
Pennsylvania

I would plead to Freepers in the States above to consider it may be your vote or lack thereof the gets Obama re-elected.

218 posted on 06/13/2012 6:14:40 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: mylife

What about Reagan didn’t they like — his pro-life, pro-America, pro-God, pro-gun, pro-fiscal restraint beliefs?

Or was it just Nancy? :>)


219 posted on 06/13/2012 6:16:02 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

He started this whole amnesty debacle.


220 posted on 06/13/2012 6:21:35 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: xzins

You know.
That thing that folks around here Unfairly HUNG Perry with.


221 posted on 06/13/2012 6:28:28 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Gabrial

I’m from Ohio and I’ll not vote for Obama or Romney.

I’ll encourage others to vote conservative: Vote Goode, Not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil)


222 posted on 06/13/2012 6:28:42 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: NE Cons
Wow, you folks are a small, but vocal group. Almost gives the illusion that the anti-Romney folks outnumber those that will pull the trigger for Romney- whether it's ABO or not
I'd bet, if JimRob did a poll, you folks would be 20% or less


Welcome to FR, how was your first month?
223 posted on 06/13/2012 6:29:36 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front!)
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To: DefeatCorruption
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224 posted on 06/13/2012 6:31:58 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: mylife

I was a Perry supporter, so I was a bit more willing to listen on that.

However, when Reagan’s amnesty came down it was a different era. America wasn’t really in tune yet with the exploding population growth in Mexico that, in my opinion, has driven the illegal immigration.

It is more a “migration” than an immigration.

However, in the Reagan era there was some grumbling, but it wasn’t really a live-wire issue yet.


225 posted on 06/13/2012 6:33:01 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: COBOL2Java
Here's a graphic to harmonize with yours ...

226 posted on 06/13/2012 6:34:31 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front!)
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To: Jemian

Jemian, I am well, thank you. But now worried about you. Please do not give up. Please see another doctor. I know well how frustrating this diagnosis process can be, but please try. Be well.


227 posted on 06/13/2012 6:34:52 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: cripplecreek

They will rue the day they supported Romney. It’s inevitable.


228 posted on 06/13/2012 6:35:32 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Gabrial

I live in one of those states, and am considering my options seriously, but they aren’t good options:

On one hand we have a guy who is taking us over the cliff at 100mph. Running against him is a guy who is driving towards the very same cliff, but only at 95 mph, all the while claiming he drew the map for the guy driving 100!

Not good options for America.


229 posted on 06/13/2012 6:36:37 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: mkjessup

If you google “romney etch a sketch” the first listing is from the DUmp. Great minds think alike?


230 posted on 06/13/2012 6:39:50 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: xzins
Reagan’s amnesty came down it was a different era.

That's right, but look what it wrought.

Now we are willing to hang people like Perry who govern border states and must follow the federal guidelines while we overlook his better quality's.

We nit pick every candidate based on the most ridiculous personal crusades until all we have left is Romney.

Now many will nit pick Romney to death until all we have left is Obama. Huzzah! /s

231 posted on 06/13/2012 6:39:50 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: lodi90
If you google “romney etch a sketch” the first listing is from the DUmp. Great minds think alike?

Go screw yourself.
232 posted on 06/13/2012 6:41:09 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front!)
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To: MindBender26

BOOKbump


233 posted on 06/13/2012 6:41:38 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (That Kenyan, muzzy bastard is not my president. ENFORCE the Bill of Rights.)
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To: mylife

It is not nit picking to proclaim Romney a liberal. He is a liberal. Go to Free Republic’s “Romneytruthfile” and read it.

He’s a certified, gold standard, true blue Liberal.

Ain’t no doubt about it.

Moreover, for me he’s not pro-life (in any honest fashion), and my religion prevents me from supporting anyone who would support taking another’s life.

Life is God-given.


234 posted on 06/13/2012 6:44:47 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: svcw

I don’t know that but I’m so damned, bone-tired of Obama that all which remains is hope. I don’t have the definitive answer but I suspect you don’t either.


235 posted on 06/13/2012 6:45:48 PM PDT by old school
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To: xzins

He’s a smarmy politician but he is Reagan compared to Obama.


236 posted on 06/13/2012 6:46:54 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

No, he’s Gorbachev compared to Andropov and Chernenko.


237 posted on 06/13/2012 6:50:26 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front!)
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To: TexasCajun
Electing a new wave of Conservative Young Guns will soften the sting of voting for Romney.

Yes, but it may well double the sting for those guys when they're in Congress fighting against a "popular" Republican president, elected on a landslide (ABO would be forgotten by 2014) who is on-board with the whole Green Con.

They'd have a heck of a time fighting him, the GOPe, moderate Republicans, and Democrats when he advanced his own brilliant solutions to save the planet. I guess maybe Romney will listen to them on foreign policy? Social issues? Taxes? Abortion? Health care? When has Romney ever evidenced the slightest conservative instinct?

If that bastard is going to get in there, I want it to be as squeaky a squeaker as it can be so that our Conservative Young Guns will have better odds. The same holds true for Obama -- those Young Guns could quietly, firmly dominate a beleaguered and despised Obama, and imagine the political blow it would be to Obama, not to mention how psychologically crippled he'd be, if he ends up re-elected not on a landslide or even a bare majority, but a plurality where two thirds of the people voted against him. EITHER WAY, Romney or Obama, the thing to help the "new wave of Conservative Young Guns is to give the next president, at this point guaranteed to be a statist authoritarian, an anti-mandate and put him on the defensive.

Barring the miracle I'm praying for that vanquishes Romney and raises a limited government conservative Republican in his place before November, I'm voting official third party for that reason.

238 posted on 06/13/2012 6:52:29 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: deport
Under the Massachusetts Constitution, the governor has the power to nominate and to appoint all judicial officers, with the advice and consent of the council.

Sounds like Romney had pretty considerable power. Romney's supporters try to put a positive spin on it:

Romney’s own words on the subject might give us more insight into his thinking. Romney defended all of his appointments. He stated that “With regards to those at the district court and clerk magistrate level, their political views aren’t really going to come into play unless their views indicate they will be soft on crime…” Romney stated that his only criteria in picking lower court judges was that they were tough on crime, something he emphasized throughout his time as governor. Romney further elaborated by saying that his criteria would change if an opening were to come on the Massachusetts Supreme Court and then he would focus more on ensuring that the judge had a “strict constructionist, judicial philosophy.”

I think that's just piling it higher and deeper, myself. And we know that some of those appointments had profound effects outside of criminal cases.

http://www.amycontrada.com/Romney_s_Judiciary.html
239 posted on 06/13/2012 6:52:50 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: mkjessup

I think you have your country’s mixed up,but I’m willing to bet that most soviets are glad that Andropov and Chernenko are gone and that Reagan embraced Gorbachev.


240 posted on 06/13/2012 6:54:14 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: xzins; mkjessup
The following is true about Bambi, I think you'll agree:

1. Most pro culture of death administration ever (pro abortion, etc.).
2. Most anti free enterprise, pro-Marxist administration ever.
3. Most anti-Christian administration ever.
4. Most anti-American administration ever.
5. Most destructive economic administration ever.
6. Most pro-green administration ever (anti-market driven energy)
7. Most divisive administration ever.
8. Most anti-constitutional administration ever.
9. Most lawless (willing to skirt the law) administration ever.

I believe David Limbaugh has a book detailing (with a lot more reasons, 150 to be exact) just how bad this administration is, care to comment?

241 posted on 06/13/2012 6:58:15 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt, the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: mylife

As usual, you fail to grasp the point. Study the policies and actions of Andropov and Chernenko, and contrast them with Gorbachev, this has nothing to do with Reagan.


242 posted on 06/13/2012 6:58:15 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front!)
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To: PoliticalArsonist; MindBender26

If Romney fails to live up to constitutional standards, then we remove him in 2016. We will not reclaim the nation in one election and we must not allow our distaste of Romney to stand in the way of winning this important battle.

In the entire history of the United States, only *one* president has ever been elected into office and then been denied his party's nomination for re-election. It was Franklin Pierce in 1857. Your buyer's remorse recovery plan has a very low statistical probability for success -- it approaches zero.

If we give Romney this opportunity, we all become democrats. We become the party of pro-abortion, pro-homosexuality, pro-bailout, pro-stimulus, pro-defenselessness, and pro-healthcare-rationing. Why? Because that is what we elected to lead us.

The "republican" brand becomes horrifically damaged. Kiss goodbye any opportunity to make further advancements in the House or Senate in 2014 and 2016. And if Romney keeps the Executive Office for two terms -- before handing it back to a "D" liberal -- we'll live under liberal rules for the next 16 years. The Democrats nationwide will love working with Romney just like they love working with him in Massachusetts. He's good for their cause.

We can either endure four more years of Obama, gain conservative strength in both the House and Senate every year, and try again to elect a *real* conservative in 2016. Or we can have four to eight years of Romney advancing the same socialist agenda held by Obama, lose strength in the House and Senate every year, and hand the Executive Office back to the Democrats with the Congress thoroughly stacked in their favor ... and not have a shot at fixing it until 2020 or 2024.

It's a no brainer; I'm voting for Virgil Goode instead of evil. But you might get your wish anyway. Romney might win as Obama is working mighty hard to hand this election to him. You might not recognize it yet, but as Obama pushes further and harder to the left (in order to make Romney appear conservative by contrast) it will become apparent he is throwing this election. It's the only way he gets out of the hot seat without handcuffs or impeachment papers. And who better to trust his agenda to than Romney for a term or two. It's a win-win for him. So ... you might just "win" too.


243 posted on 06/13/2012 6:58:15 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Lakeshark
I believe David Limbaugh has a book detailing (with a lot more reasons, 150 to be exact) just how bad this administration is, care to comment?

No, it has been well established how bad the current regime is. How about you, care to comment on how a hypothetical President Romney will improve things after kicking 0bama to the curb?
244 posted on 06/13/2012 7:00:31 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front!)
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To: mkjessup

To the contrary, Chernenko wanted a return to Brezhnevs policy’s, Gorbachev was a bridge away from the old hardliners.
But this isn’t about them, this is about getting away from Obama’s policy’s.


245 posted on 06/13/2012 7:02:35 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: ziravan

“Records count. Romney’s record of Court appointments doesn’t lend well to this argument. His record indicates that his choices wouldn’t be substantially different than Obama’s.”

Read my mind.


246 posted on 06/13/2012 7:03:38 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: COBOL2Java

There are several closed minds on FR that insist we pick either Obama or Romney. And that refusing to pick one of them means we have picked the other.
Many of them have recently signed on to FR. I’m convinced they’re paid operatives of the Romney campaign, to infiltrate this conservative site.


Seriously, whom would you say are the more likely trolls:
Those whose actions (or inaction) will more likely lead to an Obama victory or a Romney victory?


247 posted on 06/13/2012 7:04:02 PM PDT by bramps (Newt was the one, but Romney will do.)
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To: TexasCajun

“Romney’s no Conservative, but he’s also no Radical Marxist!!

Yes, he is. RomneyCare is about as Marxist as can be.


248 posted on 06/13/2012 7:04:42 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: mkjessup
My tagline says it all.

The current administration is so destructive I don't think we can survive it. There are so many bad actors and horrid people there, they will reek havoc in four years. If the few things I outlined are true (I believe you agree), there is no choice but to boot them to the curb.

249 posted on 06/13/2012 7:05:12 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt, the alternative is unthinkable)
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