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In Case You Don't Like Romney... A Challenge To Every FReeper
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Posted on 06/13/2012 2:03:43 PM PDT by MindBender26

In Case You Don't Like Romney...

Columnist Andrew McCarthy gives us what probably is the most important question regarding the upcoming presidential election …

“If Romney wins the nomination, as seems very likely, I will enthusiastically support his candidacy. For my friends who may have hesitation on that score, I’d just ask you to keep four things in mind:

1.. Justice Scalia just turned 78

2.. Justice Kennedy will turn 78 later this year

3.. Justice Breyer will be 76 in August

4.. Justice Ginsburg turned 81 about a week ago and has had cancer twice.

Whoever we elect as president in November is almost certainly going to choose at least one and maybe more new members of the Supreme Court — in addition to hundreds of other life-tenured federal judges, all of whom will be making momentous decisions about our lives for decades to come.

If you don’t think it matters whether the guy making those calls is Mitt Romney or Barack Obama, I think you’re smokin’ something funky….”

So for anybody who is thinking of not voting because your favorite didn’t get nominated, or writing in a candidate who can't win ... just imagine this possibility:

'SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ERIC HOLDER'

Did that get your attention!


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To: so_real

I’m of the opinion (and of course all of us here have one) that we cannot endure another Obama term in Office. I’m also of the opinion that Obama can’t win another term. He no longer has that kind of support. For me, that’s reality. I live in California. My vote hasn’t counted since George Herbert Walker Bush took California.


251 posted on 06/13/2012 7:08:29 PM PDT by old school
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To: Jemian
My vote is NOT a protest.

Indeed not, FRiend. It is an oar in the water, one of millions, steering this ship of state! I'm not voting "against" anything but statism. I'm voting third party knowing that either Obama or Romney will be the next pres (unless we have a miracle). My vote, millions of votes, will be counted and heard. I'm voting FOR a specific thing: to help the ship tend to a rightward course. Voting left is the wrong way to go, and Romney, for all his Republican label, is clearly a leftist.

Congress conservatives will have the best chance if the next president, an authoritarian statist either way, is weak and on defense. When he takes office looking at a nation where two out of three voted against him, that will be the beginnings of a rightward course.

252 posted on 06/13/2012 7:10:38 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: mkjessup

My point is did the people of Russia suffer more under Gorbachev or Andropov/Chernenko?

Would we suffer more under Obama or Romney?

I say vote for the nominee and stack the Congress/Senate and every down ballot vote down to local dog catcher with conservatives IF we can get them elected.

Virgil Goode aint getting elected.


253 posted on 06/13/2012 7:11:53 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: xzins

Hear, hear!!!


254 posted on 06/13/2012 7:12:43 PM PDT by Conservaliberty (25 and conservative. I guess I have no heart, Oh, well, makes shooting the bad guys easier.)
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To: Lakeshark

You are wasting your time debating the Anybody but Romney crowd. ABR’s prefer the marxist kenyan in the WH to the GOP nominee. No fact you spell out will change that delusion.


255 posted on 06/13/2012 7:14:44 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Servant of the Cross
“Yea, Romney's past sucks...”

I’ve had it with the suggestion that his past is meaningless and we should believe what he is saying today..or tomorrow...or the next time he changes his position.

To me Romney is a Trojan horse. He gets in the liberal agenda will be enacted by someone calling himself a conservative but governing as a liberal.

I wont vote for a liberal no matter how he tries to disguise it and no matter who his flavor of the month advisers are..

256 posted on 06/13/2012 7:17:07 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Linda Frances
Well done, Linda.

With Obama, it was "hope and change." With ABO, it's "hope he'll change."

257 posted on 06/13/2012 7:18:11 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Little Ray

Thanks. I didn’t know and hadn’t researched it any. I did remember Guiliana getting hit hard and he had very little say as he was presented nominees from which to choose from.

thanks for the info.


258 posted on 06/13/2012 7:20:01 PM PDT by deport
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To: discostu
So ... no, wait ... what's your real opinion?

{^) Well said!

259 posted on 06/13/2012 7:20:42 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: lodi90

The latest Rasmussen poll shows Romney at 48% R 44% O with 4% other and 4% undecided.

If those 4% would stop belly aching, it would be 52% R 40% O.

Virgil Goode is likely to get 1% of the vote.
Bachmann 1%
Newt 1%
Santorum 1%
etc etc.


260 posted on 06/13/2012 7:22:04 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: lodi90
Well, it's important to say what is true. Bambi and his minions is the most destructive, most against (hard against) all we believe in that is good and right administration ever.

He cannot win again without huge and horrid repercussions for this country.

261 posted on 06/13/2012 7:22:34 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt, the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: MindBender26; All
... some members of the Fool Wing of the Conservative Movement ...

*sigh*

FRiends, that's the kind of attitude Romney's admin would have toward conservative Republicans.

262 posted on 06/13/2012 7:25:04 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: DallasSun
The problem about voting for neither is like Obama voting “present” in the Illinois Senate all the time.

It is gutless (no insult intended) and any failure to vote for the anti-Obama candidate gives Obama a greater chance to win.

By all best final estimates, Bush won Florida in 2000 by 527 votes. Can you imagining sitting out 2000 because some candidate wasn't “conservative enough,” and 529 other Conservatives doing the same thing, and Gore facing Islamic terrorists after 9/11

Yes, it's that important.

263 posted on 06/13/2012 7:25:12 PM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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And who could forget Buddy Roehmer?
Hey! He could still surprise us!


264 posted on 06/13/2012 7:25:12 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mnehring
[Romney] can be manipulated .... Not ideal but that is our realistic option now ...

Realistic? Try Dream World. Look at his record!

265 posted on 06/13/2012 7:28:25 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: mylife
Palin
Cain
Newt
Santorum

all have come to a different conclusion than Virgil Goode.

I like agreeing with them, I think they are each a lot smarter than Virgil Goode, and they have all come to the realization that Romney is the only ABO that can win.

I feel I'm in good company with my tagline.

266 posted on 06/13/2012 7:29:42 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt, the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: RWGinger
I can’t imagine any true freeper would still not vote for Romney as a protest

Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

267 posted on 06/13/2012 7:32:24 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: Finny; All

Indeed not, FRiend. It is an oar in the water, one of millions, steering this ship of state! I’m not voting “against” anything but statism. I’m voting third party knowing that either Obama or Romney will be the next pres (unless we have a miracle). My vote, millions of votes, will be counted and heard.


Dead wrong! Your third party vote will mean absolutely nothing. RALPH NADER came in third in ‘08 with 738,000 votes vs. Obama at over 69,000,000! Was this discussed for one second after the last election???? No. Get over the notion that your vote will have some noble meaning. It is going to mean absolutely nothing, except that by not voting for Romney you helped Obama. Way to go!


268 posted on 06/13/2012 7:33:34 PM PDT by bramps (Newt was the one, but Romney will do.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

There is the King James Bible used by LDS inc and the Book of Mormon (the BM) used by LDS inc. Which one did you mean to refer to for the oath?


269 posted on 06/13/2012 7:38:25 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: All

The way I see it is we have two options.
We can get every down ticket conservative “soldier/officer” (elected official) we can in office and we can buck the liberal command or we can buck the conservative command.

Both are dangerous, but not lining the command with conservatives where its actually possible is disastrous.

Some will be obvious, some will be sleepers, some will be moles, but we have to control the government apparatus.

As much as we ridicule Obama for being stupid,he actually gets that.
He has surrounded himself with Czars and Community organizers and yes man. Most of them have foolishly exposed themselves early on.
I hope our folks are taking notes.


270 posted on 06/13/2012 7:39:41 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Lakeshark

Agreed.


271 posted on 06/13/2012 7:42:52 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: lodi90
I am not voting for a pro abortion candidate.
I am not voting for a pro homosexual agenda candidate.
I am not voting for a pro man made global warming candidate.
I am not voting for a pro government health care candidate.
I am not voting for a pro government mandate candidate.
I am not voting for a pro government candidate.
I am not voting for a pro tax the wealthy more candidate.
I am not voting for a pro amnesty candidate.

I am not not voting for a liberal candidate - period.

272 posted on 06/13/2012 7:45:15 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: SoConPubbie
There are more than 2 choices to a principled conservative unwilling to sell his/her soul for the sake of the Republican Party: a. Write in Sarah Palin b. Vote for Virgil Goode, an actual conservative.

As I see it, there are really four choices:
1. Vote for Barack Obama
2. Vote for Mitt Romney
3. Vote for someone else
4. Don't vote at all

Choices 3 and 4 are really the same, in that they do not result in a vote being cast for someone who has a chance of winning. I can see where someone would want to exercise option 4, like if you are in a car crash and end up in a coma, or you are trapped in a mudslide and it takes too long to dig you out. But I don't understand anyone who would choose option 3. If you're a conservative, and you actually do cast a vote, but you don't vote for Romney, you are allowing an Obama voter to cast one unopposed vote. You say you're a conservative but you're helping Obama to win. How does that make the slightest bit of sense? And by writing in a vote for Sarah Palin or George Washington or Barry Goldwater, you contribute to an overall list of votes that the vile lefties can make fun of later. "Look at those dumb Repugnicans, they voted for people who weren't even running for the office."

If you're going to vote for President but you're not going to vote for Romney, do us all a favor and stay home. A vanity vote is just a meaningless gesture that makes all of us look bad.

273 posted on 06/13/2012 7:49:23 PM PDT by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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Does anyone know a thing about John Bryson?
We know he crashed his car last weekend.

Look another enviroweenie in charge of US Commerce...

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/06/11/bio-commerce-secretary-john-bryson/

We better clear this rabble out. Obama has the Gov stacked thick with watermelons and activists.


274 posted on 06/13/2012 7:51:12 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: old school

I feel your pain. I live in the very blue state of Wisconsin. But I am not afraid of another four years of Obama. He wouldn't even set foot in my state to campaign against Scott Walker during the recall. He is effectively neutered. Given the choice of having him gridlocked for four years or Romney unfettered with eight years to redefine "conservatism" in Obama's image (ie. RomneyCare / ObamaCare), I prefer gridlock. We are a battlefield state, and I still won't waste my vote on ObamaRomney. There'll be a better option on our ballot in November, Virgil Goode, and I plan to exercise that option.


275 posted on 06/13/2012 8:03:54 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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Who ever gets elected as CIC is going to get fragged.

If we allow Obamas clan to stick around it’s us that are gonna get fragged.

I understand that’s why folks are concerned.
We have to have enough down vote folks and enough tea party anger that Romney will be willing to clear out Obamas rats nest of cronys.

He doesnt have to do it in public (preferable) but if he doesn’t we will.


276 posted on 06/13/2012 8:05:06 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: so_real

What you don’t get is that if he has another term he won’t be fettered.
He will go scorched earth on us.


277 posted on 06/13/2012 8:07:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Consider Eric Holder and Boehner/McConnell.

They all gotta go


278 posted on 06/13/2012 8:14:19 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: so_real

If Obama’s re-elected, I’ll have to check-myself-in at the psych ward for post-traumatic stress. I’d be bawlin’ like those North Koreans in the presence of the great successor; only, my tears wouldn’t be feigned!


279 posted on 06/13/2012 8:14:43 PM PDT by old school
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To: mylife; mkjessup

Virgil Goode aint getting elected.

For as long as conservatives recognize that Virgil Goode is the only genuine conservative on the ballot, and still don't vote for him, you are correct. But I do think conservatives are gradually wising up and learning that you can't vote for a liberal and expect a conservative agenda in return. Apparently things aren't bad enough yet for the real education to sink in. But, if we keep putting Obama's and Romney's at the helm, the ship is bound to sink eventually. It's a shame though. If we wait that long to change course, it will be a bloody mess to clean up. I'm not going to wait for that day to change course; I'm voting for Goode in November.


280 posted on 06/13/2012 8:18:51 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: MindBender26

Just looking at the election through the lens of SCOTUS, Romney is the bigger threat. Let me explain.

Unless they screw it up, the GOP-e should have 52-54 Senators at their disposal starting in 2013, enough to toss Obama nominees like Holder and Clinton (enough to demand at least a moderate pick or stonewall the position blank for years)

Imagine the politics of a recess appointment to the SCOTUS. Now, imagine a real opposition party with the stones to bump out that appointment session after session, leaving the position open in 2016. Of course, the GOP-e doesn’t want to play hardball; they want to go along, get along.

If the GOP-e doesn’t have what it takes to block liberal nominees, then the fault is theirs, BOTH for not having the stones to do what it takes to win, AND for not providing a reasonable alternative re: a SCOTUS picker.

Now, with Romney, the GOP-e cannot use that tactic. You have to dance with them what you brought to the dance. Romney cannot be persuaded by Conservative pressure like G.W. was. He’s a much a more committed liberal ideologue than that. Romney believes you all can go to hell. You’ll eat his shingle sandwich because you have no choice. Won’t you?

The chances of a more liberal pick for SCOTUS comes from Romney, UNLESS the GOP-e cops out. If they do, that’s not my fault, no matter how I vote for President.

I don’t know how I’m going to vote. I’m tired of being pressured into ‘a vote for anybody but Romney is a vote for Obama’. Horse Hockey.

I am, however, picking apart this particular argument. If SCOTUS is our lens, Romney is the wrong choice. If I’m going to be badgered about sucking up on Romney, at least use a decent argument. This one isn’t.


281 posted on 06/13/2012 8:26:09 PM PDT by ziravan (Are you better off now than you were $9.4 Trillion dollars ago?)
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To: so_real

I know a guy at work that’s better than him.

Goode has no name recognition or national game plan.

I know a the local Cafe that talks a great game.

All We can doe is work from the roots up “Were the guy can actually win”

Virgil aint gonna even get mentioned outside of a small percentage of FR folks on the national stage.

I would wager 99$% of folks on FR dont even know his platform outside of “some guy on FR” told me he is a constitutionalist.

Heck Fred Thompson was a constitutionalist with name recognition and I backed him.

Didn’t work out so well.


282 posted on 06/13/2012 8:32:19 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: so_real

Virgil Goode was not even on the primary Ballot in Tx.
Yup He’s gonna be a national contender /s


283 posted on 06/13/2012 8:35:58 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: so_real

Heck I voted Ron Paul on the Texas primary JUST TO DENY ROMNEY delegates and force things toward Tampa.

I aint a Paulite, I did it to try to get things to Tampa.
Paul got 10% of the vote.
Lemme know when Virgil gets 11% anywhere.


284 posted on 06/13/2012 8:39:37 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: so_real

Let me know when Virgil gets 2%


285 posted on 06/13/2012 8:44:00 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: so_real

I voted Ted Cruz for senate here in Texas and we forced a run off.
I will vote Cruz again 7/31/12.

My Son voted Walker in his first election up in Wi (it was all him), I never coached him)

And I will vote Romney with a lot of folks, to hold his flop floppin feet to the fire.


286 posted on 06/13/2012 8:49:23 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: so_real

Oh, and my Brothers in Ohio are all Kasich.

We are stacking **** against Obama and Romney.


287 posted on 06/13/2012 8:53:12 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: MindBender26
Here is the reality.

We conservatives lost the primary. We need to get over it. The why we lost is meaningless. The question is; do we build on our Wisconsin win, or do we squander it in petty internecine crybaby bickering?


I see you have the same arrogant attitude that romney has. You insult and try to intimidate people and then you EXPECT people to vote for YOUR GUY; someone we see as socially equal to obama? Your the one whining that conservatives won't do what you want. I will be the one standing before God and having to explain why I voted for a pro abortion, pro gay & gay adoption liberal. I have never voted for one and I won't vote for one ever.

You call yourself a conservative? A conservative would NEVER vote for a person who thinks killing a baby up to 9 months in the womb is ok. To be honest with you, I'm wondering if you are one of the many mormons who were told to go out and sell romney on those who say they won't vote for him or are you anne coulter, matt drudge, Karl Rove? Am I getting close. Probably a paid internet blogger. Do you get commission for every vote you can get for romney? He bought the primary, why not continue the pattern and buy the general. You say you really don't like romney. Your forward attack on real conservatives says you are a romney tool trying to intimidate people into doing something they consider wrong.

A conservative would not push people to vote for a man who forced schools to indoctrinate children in the gay “lifestyle” over parents objections.

 As governor, to please Massachusetts’ militant homosexual groups, Romney aggressively BOOSTED government funding for pro-homosexuality indoctrination, starting in kindergarten. He refused to defend schoolchildren and parents’ rights against this indoctrination. He refused to order his education officials to obey the law guaranteeing that parents’ can protect their children from sexual brainwashing. This is a continuation of his views since 1994 when he opposed congressional efforts to protect children by banning federal funding to public schools that encourage “homosexuality as a positive lifestyle alternative.” His deference to militant homosexual groups’ “right” to indoctrinate other people’s children was jaw-dropping:


Every general election is either the more-conservative candidate, or the more-liberal. So it is this year. Do you want the more-liberal candidate, or the more-conservative candidate? Those are the only two choices, and your actions will help elect one of them.

No, this year there are two big libs. Romney does not care an iota about conservatives. There is NOT a drop of conservative blood in romneys vains. Now why the hell would I vote for someone I would not let watch my dog for an hour? The people who voted for romney in the primary are the ones who gave us liberal romney and ultimately obama. I did not vote for either. Just because ignorant people voted for a liberal, does not mean I have to continue the idiotic pattern.


All the current anti-Romney stuff only does one thing; help reelect Obama.

I thought votes, not talking elected people. I go to several blogs and people are starting to see who romney really is and are scared. Kinda like when people started finding out stuff about obama.


That is reality. The rest is crying over split milk. Period.

I am not crying; I just enjoy exposing romney for the liberal he is. I did not spill the milk and will not clean up someone else’s mess. I will tell you that romney is like spoiled milk and will smell quickly if he becomes president. You will see people with bumper stickers that say, “Don't blame me, I voted for the conservative. At least I can say, I had nothing to do with him. The eleftist in the gop and people like you gave us romney. I want nothing to do with him. He is socially equal to obama.

288 posted on 06/13/2012 9:05:54 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: RWGinger

I think I come from a different angle on this issue. I am what some would call a ‘birther’. I believe our Constitution as stated by the Founders is quite clear, with historical records, and explicit as to eligibility for POTUSA. Obama does not pass through the eye of a needle test for this. I have spent much thought and time defending my view on this issue. If Romney chooses a VP candidate that is muddied up as to eligibility as is Obama I would have to choose between my clinging to my Constitutional first beliefs and the expediency of voting for Romney with reservations. I believe Romney has some undesirable political baggage but this baggage is nothing in comparison to Obama’s. I will wait and see how the scales of my decision balance out.


289 posted on 06/13/2012 9:11:36 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Linda Frances
I did not spill the milk and will not clean up someone else’s mess.

That sums it up very well, except for the part were You are doing all the crying.

290 posted on 06/13/2012 9:22:22 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Sounds like you tried. And put up a good fight. I respect you for that. Me too, but I'm just not done fighting yet. If Goode reaches your 11% marker, what then? Will you jump on the bandwagon? Or will you raise the bar and say "you can't win with 11% percent; lemme know when he hits 43%"?


291 posted on 06/13/2012 9:24:28 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: COBOL2Java

“Therefore, to protect the Urban Feral habitats, we Must elect Romney.

It’s the highest insult, in a free country, to tell me who I “must” vote for.”

Do accept my apologies for omitting /sarc.


292 posted on 06/13/2012 9:24:50 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Linda Frances

Get a mop Linda.


293 posted on 06/13/2012 9:27:13 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: so_real

If Things go to a convention and Goode gets a decent margin And I would need to know more about his background, I would consider it, but I don’t see a percentage in this at this point.


294 posted on 06/13/2012 9:30:34 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mkjessup

STANDING OVATION!!! SoConPubbie is a person many people look up to. Someone who knows what is right and stands firm. I have been on FR for several years and KNOW SoConPubbie is a godly person (not to be confused with romney who thinks he is a god) When you insult SoConPubbie, you insult a lot of us. I hope when I read the remainer of the post, you have apologized to him.

Proverbs 12:7
The wicked are overthrown and are no more, but the house of the righteous stands firm.


295 posted on 06/13/2012 9:36:59 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: mkjessup

Let me clarify my last post

STANDING OVATION mmkjessup!!!

SoConPubbie is a person many people look up to. Someone who knows what is right and stands firm. I have been on FR for several years and KNOW SoConPubbie is a godly person (not to be confused with romney who thinks he is a god) When you (mindbender) insult SoConPubbie, you insult a lot of us. I hope when I read the remainer of the post, you (mindbender) have apologized to him.

Proverbs 12:7
The wicked are overthrown and are no more, but the house of the righteous stands firm.


296 posted on 06/13/2012 9:42:01 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: Lakeshark; mylife

Indeed..I would crawl over glass to vote to
*BEAT OBAMA*
No third party votes for me.


297 posted on 06/13/2012 9:44:02 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: MEG33

I’m voting for the folks that can do some lifting.


298 posted on 06/13/2012 9:49:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

If you wouldn't mind a primer ... here's an outline of Virgil Goode on the issues (click).


299 posted on 06/13/2012 9:50:06 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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I can see right away that your issue is abortion, that’s your bugaboo.

I can respect that your against that.
Can you respect anything else on the table?


300 posted on 06/13/2012 9:56:39 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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