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In Case You Don't Like Romney... A Challenge To Every FReeper
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Posted on 06/13/2012 2:03:43 PM PDT by MindBender26

In Case You Don't Like Romney...

Columnist Andrew McCarthy gives us what probably is the most important question regarding the upcoming presidential election …

“If Romney wins the nomination, as seems very likely, I will enthusiastically support his candidacy. For my friends who may have hesitation on that score, I’d just ask you to keep four things in mind:

1.. Justice Scalia just turned 78

2.. Justice Kennedy will turn 78 later this year

3.. Justice Breyer will be 76 in August

4.. Justice Ginsburg turned 81 about a week ago and has had cancer twice.

Whoever we elect as president in November is almost certainly going to choose at least one and maybe more new members of the Supreme Court — in addition to hundreds of other life-tenured federal judges, all of whom will be making momentous decisions about our lives for decades to come.

If you don’t think it matters whether the guy making those calls is Mitt Romney or Barack Obama, I think you’re smokin’ something funky….”

So for anybody who is thinking of not voting because your favorite didn’t get nominated, or writing in a candidate who can't win ... just imagine this possibility:

'SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ERIC HOLDER'

Did that get your attention!


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To: altura
I made the list which got you all so het up for my own personal comfort and information.

Does that mean you are not going to share it on an Anti-Freeper site, such as Tru Bile?

851 posted on 06/15/2012 8:32:12 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: altura

Oh get over yourself.
People are irritated and point out to you that just because we haven’t fallen at the feet of Romney we want BHOK.
How many on the list? I have seen as high now as 105.


852 posted on 06/15/2012 8:34:21 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: xzins
Don't try top pull the same accusatory stuff Colofornian tried on me to squelch my involvement in thesethreads. You've made a poor assumption because I have read the prophets as I read through the bible each time. In fact, it is clearly stated that sacrificing their children to idols was the abomination --'passing their children through the fires', read the sacrificing of their children to Molech, for one.

Did you vote for President Bush? Are you aware that George Bush is not 100% pro-life, that the Bush family is not 100% pro-life? Did you vote for McCain/Palin? Do you not see that such a vote was a compromise to your perfection principle since old mister compromise with the democrats despite their evil intentions was not 'standing for God's morality'?

There is something demonically brilliant in persuading folks to now, after all the years of voting to compromise over not true pro-life candidates, to now be absolutely rigid when doing so assures that the most evil lying leftists to ever be elected president will be again re-instated by those who will have nothing to do with your 'Gods morality' strictures. We The People are presently still the sovereigns of this nation. We still have the responsibilty to work at directing the leadership of this nation. Even if your perfected candidate were elected, We The People must continue to make our expectations and directions known to that leader.

It is said that politics is the art of compromise. Frankly, politicians want uUS to believe that but the relity is that it is their politics which compromises our values. If you choose to not vote at all on the presidential slot, you have effectively made a decision to avoid responsibility for that office holder. That is your right as an American and sovereign. But you know that the votes of others will then determine which candidate is the next head of state. If you choose to vote third party, as in Hoefling or Goode, then you have not shirked totally your responsibility. But you know also that there will be two candidates who will get the vast majority of the votes. There is a built in cheat factor with Democrats, and to knowingly allow the most evil to continue ruling is to have made a compromise to your responsibilities when a less dangerous candidate could have had you vote even if you do not agree with his etch-a-sketch approach to gevernance.

Again I would ask you, which of the twisters, Obama or Romney, would you guess to be more like Jacob? I will pray daily if Romney is elected that God direct his heart and turn him toward the morality more in God's expectations. But neither of the main candidates will function as a conservative at a level acceptable to thsoe demanding perfectio ... and that's what God's morality amounts to, perfection. I do believe it will be more likely that the prayers of the people will persuade God to turn Romney.

853 posted on 06/15/2012 8:48:02 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: xzins
Don't try top pull the same accusatory stuff Colofornian tried on me to squelch my involvement in thesethreads. You've made a poor assumption because I have read the prophets as I read through the bible each time. In fact, it is clearly stated that sacrificing their children to idols was the abomination --'passing their children through the fires', read the sacrificing of their children to Molech, for one.

Did you vote for President Bush? Are you aware that George Bush is not 100% pro-life, that the Bush family is not 100% pro-life? Did you vote for McCain/Palin? Do you not see that such a vote was a compromise to your perfection principle since old mister compromise with the democrats despite their evil intentions was not 'standing for God's morality'?

There is something demonically brilliant in persuading folks to now, after all the years of voting to compromise over not true pro-life candidates, to now be absolutely rigid when doing so assures that the most evil lying leftists to ever be elected president will be again re-instated by those who will have nothing to do with your 'Gods morality' strictures. We The People are presently still the sovereigns of this nation. We still have the responsibilty to work at directing the leadership of this nation. Even if your perfected candidate were elected, We The People must continue to make our expectations and directions known to that leader.

It is said that politics is the art of compromise. Frankly, politicians want uUS to believe that but the relity is that it is their politics which compromises our values. If you choose to not vote at all on the presidential slot, you have effectively made a decision to avoid responsibility for that office holder. That is your right as an American and sovereign. But you know that the votes of others will then determine which candidate is the next head of state. If you choose to vote third party, as in Hoefling or Goode, then you have not shirked totally your responsibility. But you know also that there will be two candidates who will get the vast majority of the votes. There is a built in cheat factor with Democrats, and to knowingly allow the most evil to continue ruling is to have made a compromise to your responsibilities when a less dangerous candidate could have had you vote even if you do not agree with his etch-a-sketch approach to gevernance.

Again I would ask you, which of the twisters, Obama or Romney, would you guess to be more like Jacob? I will pray daily if Romney is elected that God direct his heart and turn him toward the morality more in God's expectations. But neither of the main candidates will function as a conservative at a level acceptable to those demanding perfection ... and that's what God's morality amounts to, perfection. I do believe it will be more likely that the prayers of the people will persuade God to turn Romney.

854 posted on 06/15/2012 8:48:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: CharacterCounts

I won’t share it here, I won’t share it there, I won’t share it anywhere.

So you say 105.

We’re always bragging about the vast number of members on Free Republic as compared to other sites.

What percentage of that number is 105?

Do the math.


855 posted on 06/15/2012 8:54:52 AM PDT by altura
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To: altura
I won’t share it here, I won’t share it there, I won’t share it anywhere.

Why? What are you afraid of?

856 posted on 06/15/2012 8:56:50 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: bramps

Wed do not know what he ‘CURRENTLY” believes because history shows us that that can change between lunch and sinner.

Reagan backed his conversion with deeds, not words. Romney has yet to give a cent to Pro life groups...for starters. Or do anything but mouth platitudes about marriage. Or hadn’t you noticed that either?


857 posted on 06/15/2012 8:59:03 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: svcw

I’m simply pointing out something you Romney haters refuse to acknowledge.

Not voting for Romney gives Obama one-half a vote.

However tepid we may feel about Romney, I would like to see him get a strong mandate.

We know he would be one hundred times better than Obama.

Let’s give him a mandate and see what he does.

We have nothing to lose by doing this.

Getting rid of Obama will be a plus no matter how great or how disappointing Romney turns out to be.

I’ve discontinued the list. If you say 105, I believe you.

But what percentage is that of the members of Free Republic?

Ten percent?

Five percent?

It’s a minority any way you look at it.


858 posted on 06/15/2012 9:00:14 AM PDT by altura
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To: MHGinTN

I don’t believe our prayers are meant to persuade God to grant our wishes. Rather, He wants us to see how He sees things. And He sees what is impossible for us to see and is even very hard for us to believe is possible.

Prayer is wonderful communion with God without waiting to be served the bread and the wine.

This whole subject boils down to vain arguments; some worship Friday, some worship Saturday, some worship Sunday. Some eat meat, some don’t. It’s a matter of whether our conscience condemns us or if it bothers another brother/sister.


859 posted on 06/15/2012 9:02:42 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: xzins
The point is to settle on a candidate being acceptable prior to assuming office.

Absolutely. Unfortunately the "perfect" candidate is not available; however, I will STRONGLY support the defeat of Obummer!

860 posted on 06/15/2012 9:03:18 AM PDT by Vernon
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To: trisham

Thank you. But I would hope it would be self evident to everyone posting on a conservative website. Unfortunately, as we see on this thread, ‘conservative’ is ‘liberally’ interpreted by way too many people.

They just hate being called what their actions show them to be.


861 posted on 06/15/2012 9:03:24 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: altura
So you say 105.

I never said any such number. I don't keep track of how many are for Romney either, since both are completely irrelevant!

862 posted on 06/15/2012 9:04:19 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: MindBender26

Has Romney talked about what’s important to him in a Supreme Court justice? I’d like to know ...


863 posted on 06/15/2012 9:07:14 AM PDT by GOPJ (Take your little hammer, little sickle and your scary red signs with a fist on it, and go home...)
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To: MHGinTN

Here’s what I said

“It’s not complicated. Your ethics come with a caveat. You are willing to set them aside if the price is right.”

Regardless of your scare scenarios, can you explain how a conservative can claim to be a conservative and hold conservative values while voting for a man whose record is 100% liberal? Because the first person who presents a logical argument that a conservative can vote liberal without abandoning his beliefs will get a bunch of us to vote Romney with a clean conscience.

That however is an impossibility since empowering liberals is the exact opposite of what conservatism is about. Or have you too redefined conservatism to ease your conscience?


864 posted on 06/15/2012 9:11:35 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Resettozero; bramps

Agreed. If I’m in court and I hear a loaded question like that, I’m objecting and I’m winning the objection. It gives dictatorial control to the interrogator, which is not conducive to genuine exploration of an issue.

Now, on the other hand, I had law school professors who loved to “slice the baloney” using exactly that kind of tightly controlled hypothetical. An in the classromm of course they really were the dictator, so what can a poor 1L do? And if, in law school, I had been presented with such a question, I might have answered, “pray, then flip a coin,” because on either island my children would likely be lost to the same kingdom of darkness, unless God should grant a miracle.

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And bramps, as for Reagan (and I know you’re hearing this from others, but I thought I would reiterate it for effect), you know he felt duped by his lawyers, right? He didn’t see the “health of the mother” loophole. He was never for abortion on demand:

http://www.lifenews.com/2008/03/11/nat-3790/

So to equate him with Romney on that issue is flat out misleading. There’s another word for that, but I will assume you had no intent to intentionally mislead.

BTW, Romney’s alleged conversion to prolife was in November, 2004, right?

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2876445/posts

But here’s the interesting thing. I was working as a legal intern for Liberty Counsel after than alleged conversion, and we were having people from MA begging us to get involved in supporting their conscientious objection against the Romney administration’s pro-abortion policies. He was still running roughshod over these people AFTER his “conversion,” still picking proabort judicial nominees, and even to this day will not sign on to the Susan B Anthony commitments to keep proaborts out of his presidential administration.

So Romney versus Reagan? Not even in the same solar system, let alone the same ball park.


865 posted on 06/15/2012 9:14:53 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: altura

Well that puts me one up on you for ‘sensible things said on this thread now dosen’t it? I know. You cant as usual address any of my points because they prove your ‘logid’ to be utterly unsound. Oh well.


866 posted on 06/15/2012 9:16:16 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: altura

You are openly pointing your conservatism is situational. Boy I’d sure be proud.


867 posted on 06/15/2012 9:19:41 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Resettozero

I see you want to mischaracterize what I wrote, or did you just misunderstand? In praying to turn Romney (or Obama if you think it possible based upon the personal habits of the drug addled sexual degenerate) I am in no way praying to get God to ‘grant me my wishes’. You have tried to pose what I wrote as if some child were praying for a pny. So, no sale.


868 posted on 06/15/2012 9:20:00 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Resettozero

I see you want to mischaracterize what I wrote, or did you just misunderstand? In praying to turn Romney (or Obama if you think it possible based upon the personal habits of the drug addled sexual degenerate) I am in no way praying to get God to ‘grant me my wishes’. You have tried to pose what I wrote as if some child were praying for a pony. So, no sale.


869 posted on 06/15/2012 9:20:04 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I call them "NBRs" -- for Nobody But Romney. If they were truly "ABOs", they'd use their conservative creds to get behind a conservative candidate and urge others to do the same.

Needed to be said again, and loudly.


870 posted on 06/15/2012 9:21:57 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: MHGinTN

Okay then.


871 posted on 06/15/2012 9:24:29 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: so_real

Notice that not a single ‘conservative’ will explain how voting lib is possible without abandoning their supposed beliefs? They ignore the question, claim the end of the world as we know it and dance like Madonna’s stage group. But not a single one of them will take a public stand as to how it’s possible.

Tells me all I need to know about them.


872 posted on 06/15/2012 9:25:17 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Caveat? ;^) ... At what amount of comrpomise do you draw the line? If a candidate is not 100% conservative in your sight, at what point of not consewrvative do you draw the line? McCain may have seemed conservative enough to you, but he was not and never will be 100% conservative and he was in the habit of 'reaching across the aisle' to embrace the very non-conservative democrats. At what level of his compromising with the democraps did you draw the line? And di you vote for him because he put Sarah Palin on the ticket? I did. But I also could not vote for a lying slug like Obama was being exposed to be by the time Novemeber rolled around, so I compromised and voted for McCain/Palin. Was I incurring God's aprobation by compromising then, and at what level of compromising would I not be?
873 posted on 06/15/2012 9:25:59 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Your post doesn’t make sense.

Post something that makes sense and I will respond.


874 posted on 06/15/2012 9:29:28 AM PDT by altura
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To: MHGinTN

How about a candidate that believes in the same things I do? Like abortion is evil, Marriage is between a man and woman, you know, really radical whacky right wing kinda stuff like that.

Or one whose own people don’t call an etcha sketch.

How about one that hasn’t taken both sides of every issue? Or one that isn’t hell-bent on demonizing the very people who are right now on this thread kissing his tail.

I can think of any number of candidates. And I’ll vote for one of them. So why can’t you?


875 posted on 06/15/2012 9:30:41 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Did you vote for McCain/Palin? ... If you did, did you compromise your values, as in set them aside? No, your firm defense of those values now shows that you did not compromise your values, you just voted in a way that emphasized some of your values without compromising the others. I will readily admit there are scant few values Milt Rominy holds which coincide with my values. But I can find absolutely no values little barry bastard commie exhibits which coincide with my values.


876 posted on 06/15/2012 9:31:33 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: altura

Oh look! it’s Ducky! Hi ducky!

Seems most here understand it just fine. Try another avoidance tactic. Or does credibility not matter to you? Then again you openly advocate for a man with none so I shouldn’t be surprised.


877 posted on 06/15/2012 9:32:47 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: altura

These are just a couple of things that actually happened under Obama. Don’t even try to tell me that Romney is worse.

Worse? No. It'll be just more of the same. The "worse" part comes in when the Republican party is viewed as the party of responsibility for travesties to come, like the ones you mentioned, while under Romney's watch. The conservative credibility of the party is damaged, the brand is compromised, we lose ground in Congress, and we (once again) hand the POTUS back to the liberals with a Congress stacked in their favor for another perfect storm in 2016 or 2020. Some of us see the big picture. Some of us don't. We all may be on the same side, but some of us haven't figured out how to avoid repeating history yet. Some of us have and are trying desperately to educate the rest. And the sad part is, the solution is so very simple : cast your vote based solely on good old fashioned conservative Christian principle. If everyone would only follow such simple advice, we would have this country turned around before 2020 instead of condemning it to a further fall in 2020.


878 posted on 06/15/2012 9:34:13 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: MHGinTN

Yes I did. And that’s when I finially learned my lesson about compromise. I voted for Palin, not McCain. And I was wrong to do so. Had she run this time, I’d likely have voted for her. Certainly in fact.

But two wrongs do not make a right. Or do you believe otherwise?


879 posted on 06/15/2012 9:35:48 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

I cannot cast my vote in a way that I am convinced will give little barry bastard commie four more years to destroy this Republic. I witnessed first hand the effect Ross Perot had on America. GHW BUsh was not a perfect conservative candidate, but he was a darnsight better than the sexual degenerate sales to the chicoms for campaign funds clinton. That may seem fatalistic to you, or you may wish to characterize that as ‘fear so great as to make me a puppy rolled on his back piddling in fear-, as the great and wise Finny has insulted us, but it is my rationale and I’m sticking to it so long as Milt is the opposition to Barry.


880 posted on 06/15/2012 9:36:35 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Norm!!!!

They’re waiting for you at Cheers. Wish you would go there and stop posting stupidity.

Listen, please.

There are two candidates.

Romney and Obama.

Neither is perfect, but one is evil and bent on the destruction of America.

Every day he does something more to undermine our country while showing total disregard for the congress and the constitution.

I want to stop him. I’m not sure what you want.

From your disjointed posts, I can only infer that you want a perfect candidate; someone who agrees with you on everything and perhaps walks on water.

I can’t imagine who you think that would be.


881 posted on 06/15/2012 9:38:06 AM PDT by altura
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To: MHGinTN

And I fully support your right to do so. But do not try saying its a conservative position. You are voting for a man with a liberal record and an open dislike for conservative ideals. That’s your choice.


882 posted on 06/15/2012 9:40:17 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: betty boop; P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl; xzins; thouworm; Agamemnon; Yashcheritsiy
P-Marlow: "Romney will probably win. But he will not win with my vote. He's going to have to count on there being enough godless liberals and unprincipled conservatives who will vote for Romney out of fear of another 4 years of Obama."

betty boop: "Are people necessarily "godless and/or unprincipled" just because they do not agree with you?"

I wouldn't take it personally, as it's not really a reflection on you. :)

There may be a lot going on beneath the surface when people make such outlandish, over-the-top statements over and over again.

883 posted on 06/15/2012 9:40:32 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("There is no limit to the depravity of the liberal mind" ~ Rush Limbaugh 5/23/12)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I’m sorry, that makes little sense to say you voted for Palin, when McCain was the one your ballot supported for president. I too voted for the McCain/Palin ticket, but I will confess I then hoped McCain would not finish his first term in office, so that Sarah could be president and We The People have a real Godfearing conservative who would ask and listen to God as our leader. And I will sadly admit that for three years I’ve been asking God to remove barry before he succeeds in doing what he is obviously trying to accomplish.


884 posted on 06/15/2012 9:40:53 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: altura

Ducky, can’t you answer a simple question? I know that doing so honestly would hurt like hell, but I have faith in you.

Stop the gradeschool ‘STUPID!!’ crap and debate like an adult or don’t debate at all.


885 posted on 06/15/2012 9:42:32 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: MHGinTN
sacrificing their children to idols was the abomination --'passing their children through the fires',

Killing their kids for their gods was the offense, MHG. And the gods of this age are "ism's": humanism, "me"ism, state-ism, etc.

There is no difference. Nor can anyone claim that killing their babies in that era would have been fine if they had claimed they were doing it for the God of Israel. He would have rejected that, too. (As He did, incidentally, with Abraham sacrificing Isaac.)

So, it is the killing of babies that is abhorent.

So far as Jacob and which of the candidates would be more like Jacob, I would simply point out the meaning of the name Jacob. Jacob means "deceiver". Jacob didn't become acceptable to God because Jacob pulled himself up by his own bootstraps. He became acceptable because God chose him and changed him. God can do that with anyone, to include Obama. So, to ask which sinner is more acceptable to God is a non-sequitur.

Finally, the last thing I believe is possible on FR is for me to squelch anyone's posts. I simply don't have that power. If you get in a squabble with JR, then he owns the place and can zot any of us. I ain't JR. You can post whatever you want.

Sorry, but GWBush was a bonafide pro-life candidate, even to the point of rejecting embryonic stem cells. His wife wasn't, but he isn't Laura.

McCain was pro-life.

Romney has consistently governed anti-life and has the decisions on record to prove it. His changes are all cosmetic for political campaign purposes.

And the gay issue? Romney is a wasteland. He approves of gay couples, of gay adoption, of gays in the military. He's a full-blown advocate of the gay agenda.

886 posted on 06/15/2012 9:42:38 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Okay, show me where I’ve said it’s a conservative position to vote for the one I deem more likely to be turnable through the prayers of the people.


887 posted on 06/15/2012 9:42:38 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
I cannot cast my vote in a way that I am convinced will give little barry bastard commie four more years to destroy this Republic.

Nor can I *BEAT OBAMA*

888 posted on 06/15/2012 9:43:09 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: MHGinTN

Please. You and I voted for McCain/Palin for the same reason and you know it. Semantics does not change that.


889 posted on 06/15/2012 9:44:26 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Vernon

I will vote for Goode and not for either of the two radical liberals, Obama and Romney.


890 posted on 06/15/2012 9:45:49 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: altura

Shut up, traitor. Your insult to my FRiend Norm is not acceptable and your insessant drone of insults to freepers is getting tedious. You take every opportunity to insult Freerepublic and freepers at ‘that other site’, then come over here and show yourself a quisling fool. JUst shut up already, or some of us will plead with the mods to zot your smelly self from the forum. Your insulting posts are beginning to look like a sort of reverse psych effort to suppress conservative turnout. Just shut up, drone.


891 posted on 06/15/2012 9:46:19 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: altura

Shut up, traitor. Your insult to my FRiend Norm is not acceptable and your incessant drone of insults to freepers is getting tedious. You take every opportunity to insult Freerepublic and freepers at ‘that other site’, then come over here and show yourself a quisling fool. JUst shut up already, or some of us will plead with the mods to zot your smelly self from the forum. Your insulting posts are beginning to look like a sort of reverse psych effort to suppress conservative turnout. Just shut up, drone.


892 posted on 06/15/2012 9:46:35 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

There are two candidates.

Romney and Obama.

Neither is perfect, but one is evil and bent on the destruction of America.

Every day he does something more to undermine our country while showing total disregard for the congress and the constitution.

I want to stop him. I’m not sure what you want.

From your disjointed posts, I can only infer that you want a perfect candidate; someone who agrees with you on everything and perhaps walks on water.

I can’t imagine who you think that would be.


893 posted on 06/15/2012 9:49:18 AM PDT by altura
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To: MHGinTN

What you’ve said is you’ll vote Romney, correct?

Again, nothing conservative about voting for a lib. That’s the subject. Why dance around it? Look, I know I’m not going to change your mind. I don’t particularly want to. But you ABO types need to be honest about why you’re voting for Romney. If not in public, then to yourselves.

And that honesty leads to one place. A conservative cannot vote for a liberal without abandoning the conservative ideals he/she claims to believe in. That’s just reality. Now, armed with that unasailable logic, you go do what your conscience tells you to do.


894 posted on 06/15/2012 9:49:59 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: altura

Here’s a hint. It ain’t Rick Perry.


895 posted on 06/15/2012 9:50:58 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: MHGinTN

traitor?

drone?

smelly?

I have not insulted your buddy, Norm. he’s insulted me and I’ve responded sensibly.

Perhaps I use the word ‘stupid’ too much, but it is so applicable.

I don’t believe you have the authority to zot me, but if the time ever comes when someone like you has that authority, I wouldn’t want to be here.

BTW, I’ve never insulted Free Republic. I may have insulted a few posters here but never the site itself.

You might try to prove that before you assert it.


896 posted on 06/15/2012 9:53:51 AM PDT by altura
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks for the backup ;) We may disagree strongly on this issue, but I know we’ve been on the same team many times before. And are sure to be again.

Bur yea, her incessant whining, dodging etc is a carryover from her hate of Freepers who pointed out her former Idol’s shortcomings. She just can’t let it go and continues it on threads across the forum.


897 posted on 06/15/2012 9:54:41 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: xzins

“So, to ask which sinner is more acceptable to God is a non-sequitur.” I did not ask that and it is revealing that you try to mischaracterize what I did ask. Youperhaps without realizing it addressed the reason I asked which would be more of a Jacob, because I was in effect asking which of the two twisters (and the Hebrew translates Jacob as more tiwster than deceiver, but we’ll get nowhere arguing Herbew translation) would be more a Jacob BECAUSE God could turn the heart of Jacob and he became a different man following the ‘wrestling match’. Do you think a lying drug addled marxist sexual degenerate woulf wrestle with God and ask that God bless him? A man who claims to be a Christian and godfearing might be more inclined to ‘wrestle with an Angel of God’ and ask for a blessing than a man who believes a lesser moon goddess has turned into Allah.


898 posted on 06/15/2012 9:54:41 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: altura

No, I pouinted out your magical thinking as I have on so many threads before. You take issue with not being allowed to spew your crap.

Oh well. Life is hard. Moreso when your vendetta is so ongoing.


899 posted on 06/15/2012 9:56:44 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Matchett-PI; P-Marlowe; betty boop

There is plenty in Romney’s political record to cause conservatives not to vote for him.

There is plenty recently.

Within the last 2 months he has come out in favor of gay couples, in favor of those gay couples at state level adopting children.

At the turn of the year he came out in favor of gays in the military.

He’s a full-blown advocate of the gay agenda.

Aside from that, I simply refer you to the huge number of articles in the RomneyTruthFile which detail years of radical liberalism on his part.

Much of that he has tried to sidestep in a cosmetic, etch-a-sketch for purposes of trying to campaign as a conservative during the republican primaries.

This, btw Matchett, is not an attack on you. It’s simply a disagreement, as is my contention that America is well served by a remnant who abide strictly by Christian principles rather than side with a known radical liberal.

As for those who also oppose Romney due to his mormonism, I’d suggest you be far more understanding of those who formerly were themselves mormon. There is a reason for that, and they have a story to tell that should be heard. It is a difficult thing to leave the faith of one’s childhood. They become the canaries in the mines warning as opportunity arises.

Like it or not, they are the ones who have first hand knowledge of what is really a little-known religion.

My opposition to Romney doesn’t need a religious component, but others have one, and many for what their experience says are rock solid reasons.


900 posted on 06/15/2012 9:59:32 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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