Posted on 06/13/2012 2:03:43 PM PDT by MindBender26
Magical thinking is what you just displayed yet again. You also have a nasty habit of attempting to rewrite history. But your post history does not lie.
Okay then.
Even when shown your own words you spin like a liberal.
Sick, sick puppy.
CharacterCounts? Your post #916 is a keeper, I’m pinging the Boss since it refers directly to him.
Nice work FRiend.
I feel sorry for those whose faith is so weak. But they chose this path. They will likewise reap their rewards when Mitt goes total lib. Then come here to tell us they really didn’t support him with their vote...again.
Romney promotes abortion and that doesn’t bother you.
‘Promotes’ implies current action. Just how does Romney currently promote abortion? And do I even deep down believe him? No, I think he’s a political animal first before anything. Given that, his actions as president are far more likely to result in less abortions than Obama as Romney hopefully would seek to satisfy a conservative base (especially with supreme court picks). You can throw out your juvenile insults, but in fact it is your action that will likely lead to more babies being killed with 4 more years of Obama.
But there was a challenge to prove this before asserting it, so I felt it necessary to post it again.
What we have in office right now is so radical, so destructive, so anti-American that even voting for a non conservative is the right thing to do. Getting rid of this administration is the right thing to do, even if it means a RINO squish. It's also true that many here believe that Romney is the same as Bambi, that's so delusional, so far from the truth, so beyond reality it's staggering to me.
Here's another reason why: We need to put forth our best effort to get more conservatives elected to the house and senate, hopefully taking the senate as well. If you actively work against the GOP nominee, you will with unintended consequences work against those conservatives who are running. Conservatives do not have their own effective party, and trying to pretend we do is a fairy tale of epic proportions.
If you work against Romney you not only have the wicked horror of giving the most destructive administration ever another four years, you hurt the down vote inadvertently. I know some of you purists don't understand that, but it's a huge reality. Hint: There are NO conservative democrats, the only conservatives in congress have an (R) behind their name. That should be a clue for you.
These are the reasons all those ex candidates who are conservative that we supported have thrown their support behind Romney, it's because the alternative is unthinkable.
“And do I even deep down believe him? No”
What can be said to a man who is willing to vote for a candidate he openly admits does not believe? Nothing constructive. Because reason is not in their mental arsenal.
We see and understand your position. Please respect ours.
There seems to be a cognitive disconnect between what you have posted on your forum page and what you post on the forum itself.
My question to you Matchett, is how do you explain your support for the Abortion Rights Advocating; Homosexual agenda promoting; Socialized Medicine Implementing Romney with the Moral Absolutism supporting stuff on your forum page such as the following:
A moral relativist, by definition, makes up his own moral truth as he goes along; basing his changable ideas of right and wrong on the situation.
Moral relativists are the biggest danger to the undermining of our Constitution because the Constitution was only put into place to guard ABSOLUTE (UNchangeable/self-evident) moral truths. It is a meaningless document otherwise.
"Subjectivism about values is eternally incompatible with democracy. Subjectivism leads to tyranny. “The very idea of freedom presupposes some objective moral order which overarches both ruler and ruled alike.
We and our rulers are of one kind only so long as we are subject to one law, but if there is no law of nature, the ethos of any society is the creation of its rulers, educators, and conditioners, and every creator stands outside his own creation.” ~ C.S. Lewis - The Abolition of Man
Is there something going on beneath the surface there?
Could it be that you Fear another four years of Obama more than you fear the wrath of God?
I understand you are a Calvinist. Do you not believe that God has already ordained who he has chosen for us to be our president for the next 4 years? And just as Calvinists preach the gospel to those who will never be saved because it is God's command to preach the gospel to everyone and God will choose his elect from among them, isn't it God's will that you follow your conscience when you vote and that you vote consistently with Biblical Principles rather than out of fear?
Surely you don't support Romney as a Constitutional Conservative. Surely you don't believe he is the kind of leader that you believe will lead this nation back to it's Constitutional moorings.
The big HOPE for Romney is that he will salvage our weakened economy. Like the days of Clinton (It's the economy, stupid) are we as a nation willing to sacrifice our principles on the alter of Economic Prosperity? Or are we ready to do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may.
I suspect that less than 1% of the population will follow my example and vote for a Constitutional Conservative in this election. Romney will win the election not because he is a conservative, but because so many people are in fear of Obama that they will sacrifice their principles to push him over the top. He will probably win the election, but not with my vote. I assume he will get yours.
Most of the posters here know I respect them and vice versa, you might notice we're not calling each other names.
Lake, I understand you perfectly. But your logic comes down to replacing one total dictator opposed to ‘our’ beliefs with a man who has shown the very same pathology that just hasn’t been elected yet. That is insane.
Sure Zilch is the worst thing ever in that office. But you look at the actual governing record of MR and he’s done perhaps different, but no less destructive things with the power he held. So you think giving such a man will transform him into something ‘we’ can handle? He hasn’t let anyone but Mitt Romney guide him thusfar...other than political donors.
Sorry Lake. That ‘logic’ does not wash. You do not replace one evil with another.
altura and Obama share something in common. You aren’t supposed to point out her actual words, just believe the BS designed to cover them up.
Take a run through her post history. There’s tons more of her saying one thing and denying it later. Especially when it concerns the subject of Rick Perry and the crew that went scorched on any who opposed him. Statements, excuses and attacks on those who bring it up.
The degree of destructive capacity between the two is a gulf so large it cannot be crossed.
Do you think Mitt would have done what Bambi did today with immigration? Do you think Mitt wants voter fraud on the scale it is today? Do you think Mitt doesn't believe in free enterprise (aka capitalism)? In every issue you and I believe in their is a chasm between him and Bambi, even if we don't like how liberal he is.
There is a huge gulf of difference between the two, and to not recognize that is to believe some irrational and delusional things.
Romney's government health care provides $50 to free abortions. (current)
Romney appointed pro-choice judges to his court, they are still serving. (current)
Romney said Roe v Wade should be overturned and left to the states, so that makes me pro-life. (2011)
Romney supports stem cell research. (2004)
Romney said abortion should be kept legal, safe and rare and will honor that commitment. (2002)
Romney said I am committed to preserving abortions rights. (2002)
Romney whether you are for abortion or not is relevant, the individual should decide. (1999)
Romney said is a debate with Kennedy that he was more pro-choice than Kennedy. (1994)
Romney was applauded by plan parenthood for his pro-abortion stand. (1994)
Romney is not pro-life, never has been, isn't now.
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by Greyfox39
“Do you think Mitt would have done what Bambi did today with immigration? Do you think Mitt wants voter fraud on the scale it is today?”
The ‘gulf” like when he got caught covering up his illegal lawn crew ‘because I can’t be seen with that” or whatever crap excuse he gave?
As I said, the difference id the fact he has not been elected yet . Before holding the office , Had Obama done anything either? No. But once he GOT that power, he did.
Yes MR is a capitalist. I’ll give him that. He also holds beliefs and positions that put him totally at odds with his own party platform and the conservative right.
Add that to a man who keeps switching positions as the wind blows and that gulf isn’t wide at all. That’s not irrational, that’s cause and effect.
Cause: Elect a man no one can trust with a record of liberal governance
Effect: Sit in slack jawed wonder when he governs to his history.
So America tanks in a different way and I’m supposed to help cheer that? Nope. There are conservative candidates. It’s up to us to vote for them. Period. And if the country disagrees, that’s not my fault. I will have voted for what’s right.
I understand the hate and the fear that people have for Zilch. He is a step short of the devil himself. But I do not, cannot understand what makes otherwise rock solid conservatives lose their freaking minds and abandon everything they believe in just to be rid of him
Riddle me this Lake, If you have to give up everything you believe in just to win, what was the point of fighting to begin with? At that point your country isn’t your country anymore.
Seems pretty mindless to me.
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