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Michigan House Votes Overwhelmingly to Repeal Permit to-Purchase and Registration(June 13,2012)
nraila.org ^ | 13 June, 2012 | NRA-ILA

Posted on 06/13/2012 3:29:53 PM PDT by marktwain

Today, the Michigan House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly to repeal the state handgun “permit-to-purchase” and registration requirements. House Bill 5225 passed in the state House by a 74 to 36 vote. HB 5225 would repeal the bureaucratic state “permit-to-purchase” handguns and instead utilize the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System. House Bill 5498 and House Bill 5499 also passed in the state House along with HB 5225. These three bills now go to the state Senate where they will be assigned to the appropriate committees.

HB 5225, sponsored by state Representative Paul Opsommer (R-93), which became obsolete when the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) took effect in 1998. Under the current state process, gun buyers must apply with their local law enforcement agency and pass a written test before being authorized to buy a handgun. This “permit” is valid for only one gun and it expires after ten days. Since 1998, federal law has required a national criminal records check for the purchase of any firearm, from any gun dealer, in every state.

Some of the key points of HB 5225 as amended are:

* Repeal the state requirement to seek police permission to purchase a firearm by traveling to a local police station and obtaining a permit to purchase.

* Repeal the requirement to register a completely legally purchased and owned firearm by a law-abiding citizen to be registered with the government through the police.

* Adopt the use of the federally-funded National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

* Default to the federal standard of prohibited persons and each purchase would still require a background check.

* Cut Michigan’s costs by using the federally-administered national instant background check system and eliminate wasted man-hours of tracking lawful gun owners in Michigan.

The NRA has been working diligently to repeal this antiquated, costly and unnecessary obstacle for gun owners and has coordinated with several state Representatives to produce the new language for HB 5225. HB 5498, sponsored by state Representative Richard LeBlanc (D-18), provides for the legal penalties relating to firearms and other weapons. HB 5499, sponsored by state Representative Ray Franz (R-101), clarifies the regulations regarding the sale of firearms to “prohibited persons” and makes them consistent with federal standards. Leg-Ribbon-Contact

Thank you to NRA members who contacted their state Representative in support of HB 5225. If your Representative voted in favor of the bill, please be sure to thank them for defending your rights. Please begin contacting you state Senator and urge him or her to support HB 5225. To find your state Senator’s contact information, please click here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; constitution; gun; gunowner; gunowners; gunrights; guns; hb5225; hb5498; hb5499; housebill5225; mi; michigan; paulopsommer; rayfranz; registration; richardleblanc; righttobeararms; secondamendment
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There are only a few states that require handgun registration. If this bill becomes law, Michigan will no longer be one of them.
1 posted on 06/13/2012 3:30:04 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
Good news everyone!

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2 posted on 06/13/2012 3:32:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: marktwain

More bad news for Obama.

Michigan will turn red this year.


3 posted on 06/13/2012 4:01:24 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Michigan turned red in 2010. Deep red.


4 posted on 06/13/2012 4:12:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Awesome news! One more “nail” in the coffin of liberalism!


5 posted on 06/13/2012 4:16:13 PM PDT by LUV W (Never forget...WE have THEM surrounded! ~ Rush Limbaugh)
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To: marktwain

It strikes me as odd that Michigan requires a permit to purchase a handgun, yet at the same time is a “shall issue” state.


6 posted on 06/13/2012 4:18:51 PM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the People's Republic of Boulder)
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To: cripplecreek

Ooops. I might hve made a boo-boo, there. Who Knew?

We don’t register guns in VA - at all. Nothing. Nada.

Not that I own any guns. I am afraid of the dang things, myself.


7 posted on 06/13/2012 4:20:20 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: marktwain

Nice. No mention of dismantling the federal database on private citizens though.

We can’t get a verifiable check of social security cards and a person’s right to work, but we can sure keep tabs on all the citizens of the United States.

Well, I guess it’s a lot harder to verify 30 million people’s right to work, than keep track of the pimples on the asses of 310 million people, most of which haven’t done anything wrong.


8 posted on 06/13/2012 4:26:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: cripplecreek; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks cripplecreek. This pleases me so much, I’m not even going to cruise the rest of the thread for the usual troll comments like “liberal hell-hole” or “RINO governor”.


9 posted on 06/13/2012 4:27:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: patton

Get yourself a little plinker 22, and familiarize yourself.

If you observe safety guidelines, there’s very little to fear.

I want something in my house to protect my family if someone decides they should rule my roost.


10 posted on 06/13/2012 4:30:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: DoughtyOne

As far as I’m concerned, all the restrictions need to be removed for ALL the people. If you’re too dangerous to own a gun, you’re too dangerous to walk around free.


11 posted on 06/13/2012 4:39:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DoughtyOne

Sir, we have been on here together for more than twelve years.

I tell you, I own no guns. They all gost lost, somwhere...perhaps a canoo accident? Yeah, that’s the ticket. A canoo accident.

Canu? Canuo? I don’t even know how to spell it.


12 posted on 06/13/2012 4:46:11 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: cripplecreek

There you go. Excellent logic! Great rule of thumb.


13 posted on 06/13/2012 4:53:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: patton

Man, what an unfortunate situation. I am so sorry to hear it.

Gee dude, that sucks...


14 posted on 06/13/2012 4:55:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: marktwain

Wow! That’s good news!


15 posted on 06/13/2012 5:02:56 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: patton

canoe


16 posted on 06/13/2012 5:11:19 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Romney Sucks. Mutiny Now, or something.)
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To: ExGeeEye

Schoenen Dank. Tanks. Never could spell.


17 posted on 06/13/2012 5:17:34 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: patton

Nah...It’s Gnu.


18 posted on 06/13/2012 5:17:39 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: patton

If I can overcome my fear of guns, anyone can- finally realized a woman living alone is just plain dumb not to have a gun for protection. I took a good CCW class from a local firearms shop and had to shoot for three cumulative hours to earn my certificate. I have two pistols now and go to target practice as much as I can. It’s addictively fun shooting at the range - the only thing is I still jerk a little when I hear all the BANGs!


19 posted on 06/13/2012 5:36:07 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: cripplecreek

No hope for my area in NY - 6 month waiting time at best, plus about $300 in fees, must be fingerprinted and have multiple references from people who live in the county.
www.police.co.nassau.ny.us/pistol_application_tandh.htm


20 posted on 06/13/2012 5:36:29 PM PDT by PMAS (ABO 2012)
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To: jazusamo

LOL. Arschloch. I tell you guys, I am done with Englisch. I will just make German in the future.


21 posted on 06/13/2012 5:38:26 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: Sioux-san

Pardon, Ma’am - but you got caught up in an old FR joke - lost all my guns in a boating accident...

Like many of us on here, I could arm an army company.

Uh..., er,...uh, except for that boating accident...


22 posted on 06/13/2012 5:43:43 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: patton
;-)
23 posted on 06/13/2012 5:43:52 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: patton

Kannugh.


24 posted on 06/13/2012 5:50:11 PM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: Lazamataz

8th lake? Done that.


25 posted on 06/13/2012 5:52:52 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: patton

Canoe and you are kidding.


26 posted on 06/13/2012 5:58:48 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: patton

“I tell you, I own no guns.”

I resemble that too. Your screen name though reminds me of an incident this morning...I saw a truck go by with a tank (maybe early WWII vintage go by and I told my wife, ‘I want that!’


27 posted on 06/13/2012 6:01:10 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Of course - perhaps you have come across the joke before?

I never could spell in English, and the Nuns beat me for my failure.


28 posted on 06/13/2012 6:03:31 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

LOL - it is not my screen name. My name is Patton. When I was young, in Germany, I told everyone my name was Patrick. That was after the nuns beat me, and made me sit in the corner wearing a dunce hat, when I insisted my name was Patton.

Mein Hut, er hat drie ecke...


29 posted on 06/13/2012 6:08:08 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: patton

Sorry for your loss. In a tragic twist, I lost my collection in an ice fishing mishap.

30 posted on 06/13/2012 6:22:16 PM PDT by kitchen (America or obama - you can't have both.)
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To: kitchen

Ice fisching can be brutal.

Back when we lived in MI, an ice floe broke loose, carrying away a bunch of fischermen - and not a few trucks.

Can you imagine how expensive it is to get your truck off an ice flow?

Anyway, after the trucks were rescued - at least those that were insured - the coast guard showed up in a hovercraft, to rescue the fischermenn. Twenty guys on the ice, only ten could fit in the boat.

A general riot broke out.

Over who had to go first.


31 posted on 06/13/2012 6:30:40 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: sima_yi

Michigan isn’t alone, North Carolina is similar. You need a permit (issued by your local county sheriff’s department at their discretion) to *receive* a handgun, but not to actually possess one. In theory, once you get the gun, the permit is thrown away. Only one jurisdiction in the state is legally allowed to force handgun registration, and that’s here in Durham County; they were grandfathered in when the current law was passed circa 1930.

}:-)4


32 posted on 06/13/2012 6:50:15 PM PDT by Moose4 (...and walk away.)
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To: Sioux-san
I distinctly remember you telling me how mad you were at another FReeper for overturning the canoe and losing all y’alls guns......
33 posted on 06/13/2012 7:13:34 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: patton

I have been on this site for quite some time now and I have never known such poor boatmen as are Freepers.

Note that I am any better. Last year I lost all my guns when my boat capsized. I then went back to look for them the next week and lost all my ammo.

Oh the hugh manatee.


34 posted on 06/13/2012 7:18:11 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: freedomlover

Who started that boat joke, anyway? It was back around 2001, the first time I came across it.

I immediately swiped it, of course.

Plagerism is the sicerest form of flattery. Well, next to money. Or gold...


35 posted on 06/13/2012 7:40:33 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: patton

Well, just dang - u got me - Hah! The only thing I lost on a boat was my cookies....


36 posted on 06/13/2012 7:55:50 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

Lost my cookies on a boat from Japan to Korea, once. Funny, Dad gave me a bowl of rice and a raw egg. Never been seasick since.


37 posted on 06/13/2012 8:02:19 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: patton

I will never get to try out your Dad’s remedy as I would rather poke my eyes out than be on any vessel where I could not easily swim to shore if I had to. Pretty much limits me to small lakes and narrow rivers.


38 posted on 06/13/2012 8:20:47 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: marktwain

I need a handgun purchase-permit in North Carolina, but there’s no registration. Which reminds me that I need to go way over east to the Sheriff’s office to get another permit! They’re only $5 each, and if I’d known they were good for five years, I would have bought four with my $20 bill the last time I was there.


39 posted on 06/13/2012 8:28:03 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Don't be so scared ... it's just a baby!)
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To: Sioux-san

What, are you following me around? Just reading one of SC threads about greek tragedies, and there you were.

We keep two boats - one on the Patomac, and one in the driveway. Wife tells me I better fix that one, or she will sell it.

;)


40 posted on 06/13/2012 8:28:31 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: SunkenCiv
Gov. Snyder is a RINO except on economic issues. He thankfully also likes being the Gov as far as I can tell and is staying on the right side of the issues not to mention being prodded by Republican controlled Michigan House and Senate.

I might be a bit unfair as I am guessing to what is in his heart and what I think he truly is deep down inside. So far, he has been a very good governor. I just have read up on his stances prior to being elected. It gives me hope for Romney

41 posted on 06/13/2012 8:29:32 PM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: Tax-chick
"I need a handgun purchase-permit in North Carolina"

{{shudder}}

42 posted on 06/13/2012 8:32:19 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: patton

Yes, a FRstalker -
My Dad loved boats - during WW2, he shipped out to the Philippines (he was in the Army), and he was one of the few not heaving in the huge swells - his family all sailed on the Great Lakes back in the day. I am such a weanie.

So, fix that boat or else....


43 posted on 06/13/2012 8:37:41 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: patton

We have a Republican state House and Senate now, and (barring the Zombie Apocalypse) will elect a Republican governor in November. I expect the law to change in fairly short order.

We’ll have a reason to go to Marshville at some point, and then I’ll stop in and get the limit (I think it’s five) of permits in one stop.


44 posted on 06/13/2012 8:38:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Don't be so scared ... it's just a baby!)
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To: Sioux-san

It will get fixed. Old Chris-Craft - older than my wife, in fact. Heh.

Just needs paint and a tune-up.


45 posted on 06/13/2012 8:45:45 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: Tax-chick

I am writing a book about that apocolypse...hmm, ought to get back to it. But first, g’night, ladies.

LOL.


46 posted on 06/13/2012 8:48:26 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: Sioux-san

Good for you! I can be pretty jumpy too but one thing that has helped me over the years is breathing - focused, calm, breathing, and firing at the bottom of the exhale. I learned this in an Appleseed marksmanship training a few years ago but it was very similar to the yoga I’d done for years before that; something you can practice any time.

Also, if you haven’t already, you might try shooting rifles. For me it’s easier not to have that jumpy anticipation. I recommend starting with a .22 but you might also enjoy an AR-15.


47 posted on 06/13/2012 9:34:22 PM PDT by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: marktwain

It is because of such as this that Obama will lose Michigan. This is a slap in the Left’s face.


48 posted on 06/13/2012 10:19:09 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: patton

I had to sell all mine in order to feed the family.


49 posted on 06/14/2012 12:47:42 AM PDT by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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To: DoughtyOne

You will get no argument here!!!! The NRA is just so proud of themselves agreeing that everyone should just bow to the federally funded NICS. When they should be against any and all gun law including the NFA as a beginning and ending with the last bit of “shall not be infringed” and the bureaucracies that could end with the repeals. I have been disgusted with the NRA for years. Especially with their seeming delight in identifying democrats who are pro second amendment.


50 posted on 06/14/2012 1:40:45 AM PDT by wita
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