Skip to comments.Women Don't Belong in Ranger School
Posted on 06/13/2012 3:41:24 PM PDT by kingattax
The United States Army is debating whether to admit women to Ranger School, its elite training program for young combat leaders.
Proponents argue this is to remove a final impediment to the careers of Army women. But the move would erode the unique Ranger ethos and culturenot to mention the program's rigorous physical requirementsharming its core mission of cultivating leaders willing to sacrifice everything for our nation.
The Army's 75th Ranger Regiment traces its roots back to World War II, when it won acclaim for penetrating deep behind Japanese lines. Founded in 1950, Ranger School teaches combat soldiers small-unit tactics and leadership under extreme duress. It pushes men harder than any other program in the Army's curriculum.
Competition to attend the course is fierce, with about 4,000 men eligible to attend each year. Only about half graduate. Of those, only 20% make it through without having to retake various phases.
For decades, completion of Ranger School has been the best indicator for determining which young men can handle the enormous responsibility of combat leadership
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Have you limited yourself to just Paris Hilton types? You know the ones who carry little poochies in their purses, have a manicure a day. Wear a different outfit every hour. Have 1,000 pairs of shoes. You know, those types. Just wondering.
What movie was that?
You really are delusional beyond words.
What’s your point?
That a woman in a bad situation performed heroically?
I don’t recall anyone saying that was impossible.
How does that translate to “Women should be allowed to go to Ranger school”?
Like I said - tell me how many women you know who can survive in that enviroment.
Like I said to her in another post, with a mouth like she's displaying on this thread, if she were a guy, someone would have shut it up by now.
And she turned it into some desire on my part to beat her.
And the only reason that hasn't happened to her yet, is because she's a female.
Not a woman, and certainly not a lady.
But 100% jackass.
I am not in favor of women serving in roles for which they are not suited. I am also not in favor of CoEd groups of comabat soldiers... I don’t think that is a good idea and would reduce our troops effectiveness. There are a lot of posts in this thread which paint women in the military in a bad light however... and I don’t think that is right.
OK, so you posted a picture of a woman standing next to a big scary gun.
What’s your point/what’s that prove?
If they don't pass they won't be Ranger Qualified. So, what's your problem just letting them try? Let them fail. Are you afraid they may, just may pass the qualifications? My guess, that most if not all will most likely fail. But I will be damned if I refuse let them try.
Not sure what your point is, other than yes, if you wanted to fight me, you'd need a gun.
Perhaps I am too much a traditionalist, but I don't understand women who see men as competition.
Not to mention the disruption of the existing training program just to accomodate the vast numbers of applicants that will be pushed through, even if they eventually fail.
But hey, the "logic" shown by the gals on this thread has provided quite a laugh.
That a woman in a bad situation performed heroically?
I dont recall anyone saying that was impossible.
How does that translate to Women should be allowed to go to Ranger school?
What's your point? You just said it is not impossible for women to perform well, i.e. heroically. So why not let them attend Ranger School and see what they are made of? I don't get it. Ranger School is one hell of a challenge. What's your and other Freepers’ problem just letting these fellow Soldiers, who have your back, who have performed well to attend Ranger School? What the heck are you guys afraid of?
About 7-8 years back the local men's league had an all-female team join the lowest division. Now, I was sandbagging at the time, so I played in that division (and another one much higher) for the winter. This women's team had won a national invitational tournament and was primarily college-age women at their peak (some even played for college teams). The average age on my lower-level team was about 35-40. There were 9-10 teams in the lower division, and we all played 25 or so games.
The women went 0-26 that year. And the next. Then they stopped playing...
You would refuse to allow this 82nd Airborne Trooper to attend Ranger School? Too bad, she'd have your back no matter what.
Badass, regarding this statement, “But hey, the “logic” shown by the gals on this thread has provided quite a laugh.”, I will put it in the category of Testosterone Idiocy.
First off blood turns very dark very fast especially on clothing like that. Secondly I’ve never seen a military handgun that shiny. They’re using Beretta’s which are very dark. Thirdly, he wouldn’t have that gun in his hand wrapped around someone carrying him They would have taken the pistol from him first off. As for a war movie? Pick one, any one. I understand too, that men are very delusional when it comes up to logic.
I'll let others judge who's making a fool out themselves.
There’s a big difference between what she did, and loading 100+ pounds in your rucksack and going hiking through the mountains, sleeping two hours out of every 24, (and those not generally all at once), with people there trying to kill you.
We’re not afraid of anything; we know that there are more differences between men and women than their genitalia.
We know that any society that sends its women to fight for it before it sends the non-shaving boys and the old men that need canes is horribly flawed.
If you don’t understand that, it’s your problem, not mine.
Oh wait. It's not a movie, it's a book.
So, let them attend Ranger School. They will fall out by your own admissions. It is imperative that the Military brass keep the standards. Now that may be more difficult than Ranger School. But that is a cultural/political problem.