Skip to comments.Was communist mentor intimate with Obama's mother?
Posted on 06/14/2012 10:01:13 PM PDT by Perseverando
Filmmaker reveals new evidence Frank Marshall Davis was president's real father
NEW YORK Did Barack Obamas mother pose nude for communist poet and journalist Frank Marshall Davis?
Did Obama build his political career on a fairy tale that his father was a Kenyan who grew up herding goats?
Was Obamas goal in writing his autobiography, Dreams from My Father, to misdirect Americans away from a deeply disturbing family background and a Marxist political foundation?
These are questions filmmaker Joel Gilbert poses in the full-length documentary Dreams from My Real Father, which argues Frank Marshall Davis is the presidents biological father, not the Kenyan Barack Obama.
Gilbert reports he has recently discovered racy photos in vintage fetish and bondage magazines of Obamas mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, that he believes were taken by Davis. The photos, he says, bolster his belief that Dunham had an intimate relationship with Davis.
Joel Gilberts Dreams from My Real Father is on sale now at WNDs Superstore
Gilbert has given WND a preview of a new Breaking News page on his documentarys website titled The Intimate Ann Dunham-Frank Marshall Davis Relationship. On the page, he presents a video that shows some of the 30-plus pin-up photographs he believes Davis took of Obamas young mother and other models in his home at 2994 Kalihi Street in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Frank Marshall Davis, pornographer
In 1968, Greenleaf Classics in San Diego published a pornographic novel titled Sex Rebel Black: Memoirs of a Gash Gourmet, authored by Bob Greene, a pen name Davis later admitted was his own.
In the sex novel that Davis claimed was autobiographical, he describes a swinging lifestyle in which he and his wife had sex numerous times with an underage girl named Anne, a figure very suggestive of Obamas mother.
As Gilbert documents, ....
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Somebody did a screen capture some time back of Obama's MY SPACE page and it showed his age 2yrs older then he now claims. I thought I saved that but don't know where to look for it now.
The whole mystery about Obama may be that he was born (if he was born in Hawaii) when Hawaii was still a Territory. If that is the case he could not be President.
Aug 21, 1959:
Hawaii becomes 50th state
Obama now claims he was born Aug 4th 1961, but what if he was actually born August 4th 1959. Ooops! missed being a US Citizen by a few days.
The images of the model came from free-vintage-porn.com - that's where I traced them to years ago when they first appeared. All images have been removed from the site. Gilbert apparently has a vested interest in attempting to show that the model was Stanley Ann Dunham, it's the only thing that places her in proximity to Frank Marshall Davis, a man over 30 years older, with an attractive, wealthy wife and five children all born after Davis and Helen Canfield-Davis arrived in Hawaii in 1948.
Most likely, however, he was definitely intimate with 0h0m0!
Yep, my best friend had one at 41 and my grandmother thought she was going the ‘the change’ only to deliver within weeks of my aunt’s child.
There is one shot where the possible SAD is in a profile. I think that would be helpful if you could compare that photo to a biographical SAD photo from the ones where she's with BHO Jnr as a toddler.
The shot is at 0:37 on the video on Gilbert's promotional website.
I can't do it myself since I lack the IT skills to do it.
This isn't exactly news. It's been a topic here for several years.
Did you miss the part where he went to the house and matched the floors with the photographs? Your insistence on ignoring the evidence he has presented reminds me of this.
I suggest if you are going to challenge Gilbert's claims, you are going to have to present better evidence than he has; A Very tall order.
One of the images on the video still bears the ID number from that website.
People will believe what they want to believe, ALL EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY.
Get off my back, I didn’t address you.
There is a visual description of FMD which lists him at 6ft 1 inch and 230 pounds.
It also says his complexion is *light brown.* You can't tell that from FMD’s black and white photos, but keywiki has a color shot:
The whole point about BHO jnr is that without a sun tan the man just does not look to be the son of a Caucasian and an equatorial African negroid man from the Luo tribe in Kenya.
Thats why Obama almost had a heart attack when the BHO shirtless shots from a beach outing showed him with visible sun tan on his face/head but not torso.
That would make Hussein a liar who tried to decieve the American public. Producing and using forged documents is a crime with jail time.
I have no idea if Stanley Ann Dunham or Frank Marshall Davis ever crossed paths, but your argument here lacks luster. Haven't you ever heard of DIRTY OLD MEN? When I was young I knew one who tried.
Wow, I’m sure there is no other floor on the island of Oahu that matches the photograph.
I can’t believe the straw clutching you engage in. Either you are clinging to this because you can’t bear to admit maybe you’re wrong, or it’s because FMD bio dad and SAD bio mom would make him an NBC. I can’t think of any other reason.
Thank You for post of those two images. I think they are the same woman, but you have reduced my confidence about it.
I think Gilbert is claiming that FMD sold the images to various outlets. That they turned up on a website after the internet was invented is not a surprise.
Gilberts claims about the house are interesting, I wonder if the kept the scrap of wood from the floor?
The only person who looks like FMD is his son, MARK.
That side-by-side is stark proof that the two are different females. The nose turns slightly down with Stanley Ann and the skin from the bottom of the nose to the lip is less than the 'porn princess' on the right whose nose turns slightly upward. But of course, we are to ignore our lying eyes and present 'proof' sufficient to refute the fabricated claims of a guy writing a salacious book to sell copies. Riiiight
Could be or the Christmas decor could be props for a "look what's under the tree that needs opening" layout of a porn mag.
If Gilbert went to the house and did measurements, then I believe him that it's Davis' house. However, I don't know if that's SADO and I don't know who the daddy is. I do know Hussein's an evil liar out to destroy America.
Eyebrows different, lips/mouth shape different, hair line different, eyes different (shows more in other photos), nose different, and what is very noticable, SAD had a short upper lip, the nekkid lady has a long upper lip. Meaning distance between nose and top lip. It is NOT a match.
Exmil - take a look at my assessment of the two photos. The short/long upper lip is a clincher.
BTW the “floor matching” is idiotic. My hub was a contractor and I know a lot about floors. The idea that the flooring in FMD’s old house matches something in a photo is beyond clutching at straws. It’s turning into a sickness.
Did you notice how someone has obviously totally re-arranged Stanley Ann Dunham's face? Her nose has been changed, the distance between her top lip and under her nose has been made longer...her eyes are a different shape, it's a CONSPIRACY! They have tried to make her look nothing like the model! (SARC)
Riiiight! LOL! I’m through with posting images, no one has eyes and they never save them anyway. Same questions for FOUR YEARS!
Over and over again...we discussed this at length prior to 2008.
My husband was going to a speech therapist (after stroke) who is an African from Kenya and she is almost as black as the ace of spades.
I know several 1/2 black children from blonde blue eyed mothers and American black fathers and they are darker that Obama. There is no way his father was an African from Kenya.
I think FMD bio dad and SAD bio mum with birth in Kenya *and* mom claiming BHO snr as dad on the birth certificate would not only make BHO not a NBC, but also a NON US citizen.
Why else has the man a fake SSN, a fake SS draft card and issues with his passport file [which would record a failed passport application]?
Don't forget resolution 511 which cleared Mccain as NBC because he had two citizen parents, Obama co-signed it.
I believe Obama has told the top GOPe people that he has two US citizen parents. That may be true, but he couldn't prove it in the 70’s to social security, because DNA testing didn't come in till 1985.
IMHO he used a foreign passport to travel to Pakistan in 1981 - fatally destroying whatever chance he had to claim NBC status.
So that's the fix the GOPe agreed with the democrats in 2008, don't make a fuss about Obama’s origins and we will give John Mccain a pass.
If it ever comes out that Obama lost his US citizenship completely and is still legally a foreigner, these GOPe people are done basically, along with the entire Democratic party for a generation at least.
IMO he hates America so much that he would rather claim as his father a black Kenyan communist instead of a black American communist!
I have now repeatedly attempted to explain where the erotic images of that model came from, the website and ID number was shown on one of them, the images came from free-vintage-porn.com which website has now been wiped clean and closed down. I found that YEARS AGO. Why did no one else bother to use the information on the images to trace them, WHILE THE SITE WAS STILL UP? Nice opportunity for someone making a video to buy the website, close it down and present the images as a new discovery. He found them amongst the archives of Frank Marshall Davis' articles, says he?
...and then he found a piece of wood...I'm cracking up here.
A lot does go back to SR 511 to McCain and also fast forward to Romney. SCOTUS has been "evading" the issue since the however many swearing ins. Congress has been running scared since day one which in turn has given him free reign to sign in any law without them or the Constitution. Of course deals were made and he's blackmailing our government officials.
Take FMD’s face and merge it with SAD’s [after correcting for the male/female differences]. I think the resulting face is going to look like Obama.
The skin tone is a match, and Mark Marshall Davis untanned face gives you an idea of just how Caucasian Obama would looks in untanned skin tone.
I disclaim any knowledge of floors whatsoever :-)
I think you underestimate the number of dirty old men who keep these kinky mags for generations. I would not be surprised in the least if the website just scanned original magazines.
Unlike old newspapers, these things get kept :-)
In terms of needing to see the original source magazines, I agree, only the original physical copies are of any true legal value for evidence.
Happily or unhappily I have no experience with cosmetics, so maybe a lady-freeper could comment?
I must admit my confidence is not as high. It is difficult though as even the official SAD bio photos look so different as they are taken at different angles, ages and weights.
As for the floor - I have no experience in building or even looking for different flooring materials to purchase - so I have no clue on that.
I read on a thread recently from someone who’s been to a lot of meetings with Sheriff Joe, that information continues to pour in to the posse “copiously” and that’s why the press conference is a bit late.
We may be in for a great show replete with fireworks.
Cosmetics cannot change the space between upper lip and nose, nor the shape of the lips. The shape of the eyebrows is quite different and dependent on the contours of the forehead and orbital ridge and temples, can’t be changed with any cosmetics.
So you get your hands on the original magazines in which you assume the images first appeared, and you attempt to show that a girl with a very limited resemblance to Stanley Anne Dunham posed for erotic pictures in the house of Frank Marshall Davis, and while he photographed her, he seduced her, she became pregnant to him at the age of seventeen, but her father and mother didn’t object, neither did his wife who remained married to
him until ten years later, and Stanley Ann Dunhams parents found her a black kenyan native to act as a surrogate father, and the result was an offspring who looks nothing like either men.
And there’s still no physical evidence of Stanley Ann Dunham in Hawaii until 1963.
GOTCHA. It all makes perfectly good sense now.
I’ve been here far too long, I started researching from the time of the two LONG THREADS IN 2008 & 2009
And if you would like to follow some background research, you’ll find it here:
Watch it...you’re making too much sense...there are some on these threads who will eat you alive if you don’t carry the FMD IS ZERO’S FATHER torch.
Your right no one can have a baby after 38 years of age!!!
Yep, if that guy in post 24 had a son, he’d look just like Obummer.
The only way to get past the stuff you describe is for a person to sort of mentally clear out anything they think they “know” and then re-read a bunch of research threads.
Then the light goes on.
Oh yes they can...but first you have to get them into a position in which pregnancy can occur. Madelyn, a 38 year old Bank Vice President copulating with Frank Marshall Davis, a man 20 or so years older, married to a wealthy, attractive woman with whom he had five children after their arrival in Hawaii in 1948 who was herself 18 years younger than FMD is just a little off the wall.
It’s like saying, well, they won’t believe he bedded Stanley Ann, so we’ll say it was her mother.
CRASS AND PATHETIC.
I feel for Mark Davis, he’s a decent person who doesn’t deserve for his deceased father to be maligned in this fashion. Communist or not. There’s something rather smutty about the suggestion that Stanley Ann or her mother were involved in a liason with FMD, while he was friendly with their husband and father.
Tells one more about the person making the suggestion than it does about the people being discussed.
I am reminded of the woman who lost an earring...she was searching for it in the living room, and when her husband asked her ‘where did you last know you had it’? - she replied, ‘I think it was in the bathroom’
‘So why are you not looking in the bathroom’? he asked her.
‘Because the light is better here,’ she replied.
The light is better in Frank Marshall Davis’ living room.
And you are the foremost proof of your statement.
You don't have to address me, I have a mind of my own. I am pointing out that the evidence keeps piling up, and it isn't leading in the direction of your theory. Unless we postulate that Gilberts is a liar, we have to accept that he has established that house as the origin of those pictures. He even noted the same thing I did. The Windows were an uncommon type. (Which you pooh poohed.)
As Benjamen Franklin said: "One of the great tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a gang of brutal facts."
Unless it is done by the State Government on behalf of an adopted child. Then it is perfectly legal.
That you should say such a thing means you are not comprehending the facts at hand. The wood grain pattern matches EXACTLY. So no, in fact there *IS* no other floor on the Island, or anywhere else in the Universe that will match that photograph. Only that floor found at that house will match that photograph because it is the same floor as is *IN* the photograph.
I cant believe the straw clutching you engage in. Either you are clinging to this because you cant bear to admit maybe youre wrong,
I have no problem with admitting i'm wrong. I've done it once or twice since i've been posting here at Free Republic, and I've done it elsewhere as well.
or its because FMD bio dad and SAD bio mom would make him an NBC. I cant think of any other reason.
I am not going to make up my mind about what is the truth just because it favors my side. I am going to look at where the evidence leads, and decide on the basis of what appears to be the truth, even if it goes against me. This is known as H-O-N-E-S-T-Y.
As for Obama being a "natural born citizen", people have pointed out that if Stanley Ann was legally married to the Kenyan, it makes no difference to the Legal system who the biological father is, the "birth" father is the Husband according to the Law. Obama could be the biological son of an American, but he would still be the legal son of the Kenyan, and therefore legally acquire his citizenship.
your gang of brutal facts has been reduced to a piece of flooring and the shape of a window as the result of the desperation of the author of a video who has been shown to be interested in nothing more than the $$$ he gets as the result of floating the theory that zero is the son of FMD and SAD on the strength of nothing more than some images from an erotic website now closed down, which showed images of a girl who bore a SLIGHT resemblance to Stanley Ann Dunham, VERY SLIGHT.
I understand the motives of the author of the film much better than your motives, which would appear to be to bestow NATURAL BORN STATUS upon a man whose birthdate, place of birth, parentage and nationality are UNKNOWNS.
I am thus, extremely suspicious of YOUR motives. And I ask you once more, please do not respond to comments I place on the forum which are not addressed to you.
I have no idea where the name Shirly came from, urban legend has it that it came from the first edition of ‘Dreams’ but I don’t have thousands of dollars to throw away to find out of that’s true.
I have a question — is it possible we have (2) ann dunhams—a shirley ann dunham and a stanley ann dunham? see link and the +2 next to shirley ann— twin?
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