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Romney won't say he'll overturn immigration order
AP ^ | Sunday June 17, 2012

Posted on 06/17/2012 7:52:00 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

BRUNSWICK, Ohio (AP) — Mitt Romney is refusing to say that he would overturn President Barack Obama's new policy allowing some young illegal immigrants to stay in the United States.

The Republican presidential candidate tells CBS” ”Face the Nation” that if he’s president, Obama’s executive order “would be overtaken by events … by virtue of my putting in place a long-term solution.”

Romney was asked three times in the interview if he would overturn Obama’s order, but he didn’t directly answer the question. Instead, he said would work to pass a law to help those young people who were “brought in by their parents through no fault of their own.” Romney said he doesn’t know why Obama “feels stop-gap measures are the right way to go.”

The candidate’s comments represent a further softening of his rhetoric on immigration since the GOP primary campaign ended.

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To: Drew68
So, who is your candidate who has pledged to ban gays from the military and what does their roadmap to the White House look like?

I anticipate the sound of crickets as well...

I am talking principles -YOU are talking people.

I speak for myself -you are Romney's useful idiot.

Did you anticipate that?

101 posted on 06/17/2012 10:39:36 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Bigtigermike

I didn’t know we were now going to pretend that millions of illegals in our country has no effect on the economy.


102 posted on 06/17/2012 10:40:23 AM PDT by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney DESTROY Obama at his own game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYvx4UfM8RA)
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To: entropy12

So standing up for principles against a unconstitutional grab is muddling side issues, distractions and a trap set by Obama?


103 posted on 06/17/2012 10:42:39 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: WilliamIII

Why? Because it is the responsibility of the SITTING HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES to impeach the fraudulent little commie bastard, that’s why. Why should the man running for the office of president against the freaudulent bastard commie feed ammunition to those who are trying to distract from what really has to be done to maintain their Congressional oaths of office? Can’t you see a set-up when it’s dangling before your eyes?


104 posted on 06/17/2012 10:44:21 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Hahahaha.....sorry, just thought it was funny that people could believe Romney would overturn this if elected.


105 posted on 06/17/2012 10:44:42 AM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: WilliamIII

“Don’t we need a president who will defend the Constitution?”

At this point we need a candidate that will crush Obama. One way to do that is to NOT chase the red herring issues thrown out to distract the public from the real issues of the economy, Obamacare, etc.....Like a MLB player we need to keep an eye on the ball until it is in the glove. Only then can we throw the ball where it needs to go. Patience, lets get the usurper out of the WH and back into his grass hut.


106 posted on 06/17/2012 11:23:43 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Milquetoast Romney will not win the election... Obama must beat himself.


107 posted on 06/17/2012 11:24:37 AM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Lady4Liberty
I didn’t know we were now going to pretend that millions of illegals in our country has no effect on the economy.

Sure it affects the economy but do you think the economy would be emphasized if the debate goes this way?

No, it will be about ethnicity and Romney will lose points to Obama on that score. Keep focused on the economic numbers OVERALL...Romney wins.

108 posted on 06/17/2012 11:27:17 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Nobody can say they weren’t warned.


109 posted on 06/17/2012 11:27:48 AM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: chiller

“I think it’s a trap set to get Romney embroiled in a immigrant hating kerkuffle.”

You bet it is. So far Romney hasn’t taken the bait.....we’ll see.

The smart move is to keep on Obama’s many failures as POTUS.
From the economy to National security and foreign relations, Obama’s presidency has been a sad joke. Time to shepard’s hook him offstage......


110 posted on 06/17/2012 11:27:52 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Regulator

Not Romney or the kenyan.


111 posted on 06/17/2012 11:29:03 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: RicocheT

Let’s hope Romney keeps his eye on the ball. Chasing red herrings meant to distract the average voter is a losers tactic.

Focus on Obama’s disasterous presidency and stay there untill all the votes are in!


112 posted on 06/17/2012 11:30:50 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Bigtigermike
distractions and a trap set by Obama?

Yes, it could very well be.

The economy was the top issue for weeks and Obama looked terrible. Suddenly the topic switches to one which makes Obama look like a hero to large populations in SW states. These states had a chance of going to Romney. And now conservatives are arguing? And now people are not singly talking about the economy?

Hmmm. Sounds like Chicago strategy to me.

113 posted on 06/17/2012 11:31:10 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Bigtigermike

Romney doesn’t say A LOT of things he should be saying...kinda why I am not feeling to positive about the future.
Not holding my breath on Willard.

Good Luck America!


114 posted on 06/17/2012 11:36:00 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: kjo
Everybody...stop and think. Our goal is to remove this socialist/communist/marxist POS obozo OUT OF OFFICE IN NOVEMBER. NO! to communism/socialism/marxism! That is our first goal.

Romney, I repeat, Romney, IS NOT A COMMUNIST, SOCIALIST, MARXIST! No one is perfect, and Romney has his flaws as well, but he is NO LEFTIST. Every change, elimination that must be made after his election will come one step at a time...obozo took four years to step on the Constitution, and “fundamentally change” this country....one step at a time. It will be OUR responsibility to then be vigilant and stay on top of Romney and make sure he does the will of We The People.

It will not be easy or a instant fix....but first, we must stand together and elect Romney to the White House, and drag out obozo and his gaggle of hacks, his big-mouth marxist, revolutionary “wife,” and the rest of the leftists, wherever they may be hiding. Marco Rubio had a plan for the handing of the illegal immigrants, but obozo beat him to it by stepping on the Constitution, and pushing it through, because he can! ‘cause he's king!

A FACT: these people are here, and we need their vote. Get Romney and Rubio in office...and let them formulate a plan for the handling of illegal immigrants in a orderly fashion.

Everybody, do not cut off your nose to spite your face. We must all stand together and get Romney into the White House...or this country will be lost to the hell that is communism, socialism, marxism, OBOMA! FIRST THINGS FIRST.

I pray that common sense will prevail, that men and women who love this country, warts and all, will unite and work together to remove the cancer that is oboma, and start the ball rolling once again to return this country to all that we love....

Vote Romeny IN, and drag the fat arses of leftism OUT of OUR White House.

115 posted on 06/17/2012 11:36:36 AM PDT by itssme
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To: Zhang Fei

Obama’s looking better and better - as long as he’s restrained by GOP majorities in both houses. If Romney becomes prez, he’ll use Democratic minorities and GOP centrists to get his liberal legislation passed. Whereas Obama provides no political cover for GOP turncoats in Congress.

Six years of bush and GOP Congress got us huge deficits and disastrous housing bubble. (Yes I know the Dems under Clinton started the bubble, but Bush and GOP kept it going by encouraging easy lending for people who couldn’t afford houses).

In contrast, when Clinton was president with a GOP Congress, we actually had some restraint in spending. The Republicans were incentivized to challenge the executive instead of to go along.

OTOH, a reelected Obama will give us terrible judges.


116 posted on 06/17/2012 11:42:24 AM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: DBeers

“Americans are not stupid and would welcome a conservative LEADER that could multitask -....”

You’re wrong, the average voter IS stupid.....That’s how we got Obama in the first place.

The focus should be winning the election not chasing every distracting (from Obama’s record) issue thrown out by Obama to befuddle Joe-sixpack, or to pander to single issue voter groups.

Aside: There is no way Romney will be anything other than himself.....a Rockefellar, East coast establishment, Republican (sic). Get out there in your local elections and make sure the winners of the downticket elections are all rock ribbed Conservatives......Presidents are not a “shoot and forget” smart weapon.....like any modern weapon they need constant quidance and correction. A CONSERVATIVE Congress will do that. Our goal as voters is to make sure that happens....do it!

As I said in a previous thread, Lets make sure “President” Romney rues the day he ran for President because of a Conservative Congress that’ll hold his feet closely to the fire for his entire term of office......let Romney limp out of office footsore from tangling with real Conservatives!


117 posted on 06/17/2012 11:46:18 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: atc23

“Romney’s smart to let Obama create an issue in which if Romney doesn’t say the correct thing, Romney’s base abandons him?
I don’t get that, at all.”

It’s easy to understand....Romney doesn’t control what Obama says.....he only controls what he says. Responding to Obama only serves to put Romney on the defensive.

Romney needs to control the conversation.....Hit Obama where he is vulnerable....”It’s the economy stupid!”

Stay out of devisive issues...talk about people’s pocketbooks.

Chase neither rainbows, nor red herrings.

Again “It’s the Economy stupid!” from now until November 5th.


118 posted on 06/17/2012 11:52:44 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: what's up

Mott can still focus on the economy AND still stand on principles.......what’s wrong with you people! Don’t limp along with the wimp - Romney!!!!!


119 posted on 06/17/2012 11:53:46 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike
When Romney focuses on the economy he IS standing on principles...extremely strong ones.

And his numbers rise.

We'll get off this topic shortly and return to turf where Romeny far outshines Obama. Don't fall into traps which the left will try to use to divide. Their main strategy is always to continue to balkanize the US and divide conservatives. They'll try it again and again.

120 posted on 06/17/2012 12:08:08 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Regulator

Ill be frank with you, politically it may not help him to be openly apposed, just as it certantly does not help him among his base to be in support.

I suspect He would be better off attacking Obama on the constitutional issue openly. But really at this stage of the game he needs to follow the polls on the issue.

Being openly apposed to the issue and then losing the election becase of that oppsition and the countless illegal but nonetheless effective votes against him. Will Not resolve the issue of illegal immgration but instead make it much worse.

On the other hand faneing support or neutrality to get elected and then killing the lawless acts once elected will do much to resolve the issue.

So your going to have to ask yourself, do you want this problem soved or do you want the truth now?

If we want to beat the socialist left in their own riged game we are going to have to play the field they have left us.


121 posted on 06/17/2012 12:10:36 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: WilliamIII
Six years of bush and GOP Congress got us huge deficits and disastrous housing bubble

Lies. It was the last segment of Bush's tenure that saw the deficit growing so large and that was after Pelosi became speaker.

And if you think the GOP could have passed effective housing reform without Democratic cooperation you're extremely politically naive. That would have been seen as Obamacare is now...rammed through without a single Dem vote and almost every "fascist GOP" would have been voted out toute suite. Then we really would have had a depression.

122 posted on 06/17/2012 12:16:23 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Bigtigermike

“So standing up for principles against a unconstitutional grab is muddling side issues, distractions and a trap set by Obama?”

If you want to win the war for the Constitution your going to have to pick only the battles you can win and avoid the battles you can’t.

Mitt needs to follow the polls here and not lose the election on the account of millions of illegal yet effective votes going against him.


123 posted on 06/17/2012 12:17:06 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: WilliamIII

Obama’s lawless order impacts the economy...but nobody is talking about that aspect.


124 posted on 06/17/2012 12:22:34 PM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: what's up

Six years of bush and GOP Congress got us huge deficits and disastrous housing bubble

Lies

Nope, truth. Check your facts before posting. Deficits were higher than ever in history by 2005. And Bush proposed his own plan for no-down-payment loans; he said that traditional lending factors weren’t preventing people from getting homes. (Well duh, that’s the point — people who can’t afford homes shouldn’t be getting them). You can wish away the facts, but that doesn’t make them disappear.


125 posted on 06/17/2012 12:27:05 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

As a spineless politician you have to go with the flow — damn the Constitution.

Romney doesn’t know where the flow is taking him yet and that’s why he is reserving an answer for a later occasion.


126 posted on 06/17/2012 12:28:57 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: what's up

When Romney focuses on the economy he IS standing on principles...extremely strong ones.

He’s not protecting us from the millions of illegals who’ll be competing for american jobs, thanks to Obama’s EO. That’s an economic issue, and Romney is AWOL.


127 posted on 06/17/2012 12:30:36 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: 353FMG
The Romney Republican Party mascot is the jellyfish.


128 posted on 06/17/2012 12:37:07 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (To be added to the new EternalVigilance ping list, FReepmail me. www.TomHoefling.com.)
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To: WilliamIII
Deficits in relation to GDP were NOT higher than ever in history in '05. They ballooned toward the end of '08 under Pelosi.

Bush said a few things like you suggest and then he ALSO proposed reform many times when it was clear that the housing bubble was growing.

Democrats are far and away the major culprits in this whole area and for the economy in general. Focus your blame where it's due.

129 posted on 06/17/2012 12:39:51 PM PDT by what's up
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To: WilliamIII
Yes, is is protecting us by not getting enmeshed in a debate which will center on so-called "prejudice" if carried further and NOT the economy.

Dems always scream "race" if you don't know your history. Why devolve into that kind of debate. Center on the economy without a race issue and Romney moves further ahead.

130 posted on 06/17/2012 12:43:12 PM PDT by what's up
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To: DarthVader

“The Congress is going to tie this mess up in the courts.”

U-huh. No doubt BHO2 is terrified. /sarc

The power to stop this administration belongs to Congress, not the Supreme Court. The problem is they’re hesitent to use that Constitutionally endowed power.

Cngress has the power to stop his orders. And they have the power to impeach.

What Congress doesn’t seem to have is the will. They’re too scared of the potential for rioting organized by communists. They are afraid it will cause a public backlash.

What they ought to be afraid of is us. We the people are more powerful than any piddling group the communists can gin up.

It is far past time for the Congress to feel the majorities anger.


131 posted on 06/17/2012 12:52:56 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: Zhang Fei
Obama’s looking better and better - as long as he’s restrained by GOP majorities in both houses. If Romney becomes prez, he’ll use Democratic minorities and GOP centrists to get his liberal legislation passed. Whereas Obama provides no political cover for GOP turncoats in Congress.

Art of War 101. It's amazing how many people don't understand this.

132 posted on 06/17/2012 12:56:00 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: chiller

Farmers know what the solution involves - it is mechanization. They just don’t want to go there because of the initial expense.

It is cheaper to hire illegal aliens for seasonal work and then let the taxpayer support that population the rest of the year.

Pass laws that put farmers in prison for violating our immigration laws, and they will change damn fast!


133 posted on 06/17/2012 12:56:30 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: Forty-Niner
Make sure we get as Conservative a Congresss as we can in 2012 so that we can hold the President’s feet to a blazing fire of Conservatism.

And here I thought only left dim bulbs believed in Hope & Change.

If Willard becomes president, a Republican dominated congress will roll over and beg him to scratch their bellies.

134 posted on 06/17/2012 1:01:45 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: what's up

The deficit in 2005-06 was 574 billion. The highest in history.

Bush and Rove also kept the housing bubble growing, with their plan for “Increasing Minority Homeownership” by promoting no-do-payment loans.

In his speech at the White House Conference on Increasing Minority Homeownership, Bush said:

“The goal is, everybody who wants to own a home has got a shot at doing so. The problem is we have what we call a homeownership gap in America. ...

“And so what are the barriers that we can deal with here in Washington?”

“Well, probably the single barrier to first-time homeownership is high down payments. “


135 posted on 06/17/2012 1:01:49 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: Steamburg
It was a smoke and mirrors trap for votes. There is absolutely no reason for Romney to comment on this pandering crap until after the election.

Oh, but he has commented on it, and said precisely the wrong thing. He totally agrees with what Obama's doing - just not the way he's going about it.

Willard should have just been honest and run in the Democrat party. He agrees with them on every single issue of importance. His record as Governor of Massachusetts documents that fact beyond any question.

136 posted on 06/17/2012 1:05:31 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SatinDoll

How far will an impeachment go through the Rat controlled Senate and how much will an impeachment attempt fire up his disillusioned and increasingly disinterested base?


137 posted on 06/17/2012 1:12:38 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: BobL

Yeah, we’d probably be smart to follow Mitt’s example just give up on all that patriotic, constitutional, pro-America stuff. Much easier to stop fighting with the left, and figure out how to beat them at their own agenda.

What a winning strategy!


138 posted on 06/17/2012 1:13:59 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Hey Mitt you send back the whole family!!! It will take time as did the tens of millions that came here. ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION the final nail in America’s coffin!!!!


139 posted on 06/17/2012 1:22:11 PM PDT by doc
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To: Lazamataz
...an enemy inside the gate is much more dangerous than a known enemy outside the gate.

Welcome to the Sun Tzu Patriot Honor Brigade of Free Republic. It's simply astonishing how many Freepers don't understand the fundamental dynamics at work in this election.

Upon election, Mitt Romney is going to continue forwarding the Obama left's agenda - just like he did while he was Governor of Massachusetts. Freepers who think otherwise, are simply buying tickets to Hope & Change II: The sequel.

140 posted on 06/17/2012 1:26:38 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Logical me
Playing the election game one has to be careful how questions are answered. Don’t put any real stock in what Romney says....

I like it. Clear thinking at last. Instead of listening to the campaign blather out of a politician's mouth, we ought to look to their actual deeds in office to get a sense of who they really are:

Mitt Romney’s Dismal Record

"As U.S. real output grew 13 percent between 2002 and 2006, Massachusetts trailed at 9 percent.

* Manufacturing employment fell 7 percent nationwide those years, but sank 14 percent under Romney, placing Massachusetts 48th among the states.

* Between fall 2003 and autumn 2006, U.S. job growth averaged 5.4 percent, nearly three times Massachusetts' anemic 1.9 percent pace.

* While 8 million Americans over age 16 found work between 2002 and 2006, the number of employed Massachusetts residents actually declined by 8,500 during those years.

"Massachusetts was the only state to have failed to post any gain in its pool of employed residents," professors Sum and McLaughlin concluded.

In an April 2003 meeting with the Massachusetts congressional delegation in Washington, Romney failed to endorse President Bush's $726 billion tax-cut proposal."

[Cato Institute annual Fiscal Policy Report Card - America's Governors, 2004.]


Romney's "accomplishments".

1. Implemented/created Gay Marriage in MA

2. Supported and forced Gay Adoption in MA

3. Supported Abortion wholeheartedly

4. Raised taxes/fees over 300% while being Governor of MA

5. Implemented a state-level Cap and Trade system.

6. Supported Man-Made Global Warming

7. Supported the Brady Bill

8. Implemented a state level “Assault” Weapons Ban after the Federal AWB was allowed to expire.

9. Supported TARP

10. Supported Amnesty for Illegal Aliens (Citizenship for those already here)

11. Supported McCain-Kennedy (Amnesty)

12. Implemented a socialized medicine in MA called RomneyCare complete with an Individual Mandate and $50 abortions.

13. Nominated 27 Democrats (out of 36 nominations) for judgeships in MA, many of them extreme left-wingers.

141 posted on 06/17/2012 1:33:00 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier; Lazamataz

> Upon election, Mitt Romney is going to continue forwarding the Obama left’s agenda - just like he did while he was Governor of Massachusetts. Freepers who think otherwise, are simply buying tickets to Hope & Change II: The sequel.

I understand why people want to vote Romney over Zer0. And indeed, the thought of this communist leaving the White House is a happy thought but the truth is that a stealth socialista like Romney is positioned to do a lot more damage. Our worst nightmare: a Dimocrat agenda that will be bolstered by the very GOP that should be fighting it.

That’s why I’m focusing my fundraising and call bank energies on Congressional races this year. The presidency is lost, one way or another.


142 posted on 06/17/2012 1:33:41 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
...no matter how much of a wuss, flip-flopping, RIHO Mittens is, he has never said or done anything which is even close to what our Community Agitator has.

Not even close, you say? Let's review his record, shall we?

Mitt Romney’s Dismal Record

"As U.S. real output grew 13 percent between 2002 and 2006, Massachusetts trailed at 9 percent.

* Manufacturing employment fell 7 percent nationwide those years, but sank 14 percent under Romney, placing Massachusetts 48th among the states.

* Between fall 2003 and autumn 2006, U.S. job growth averaged 5.4 percent, nearly three times Massachusetts' anemic 1.9 percent pace.

* While 8 million Americans over age 16 found work between 2002 and 2006, the number of employed Massachusetts residents actually declined by 8,500 during those years.

"Massachusetts was the only state to have failed to post any gain in its pool of employed residents," professors Sum and McLaughlin concluded.

In an April 2003 meeting with the Massachusetts congressional delegation in Washington, Romney failed to endorse President Bush's $726 billion tax-cut proposal."

[Cato Institute annual Fiscal Policy Report Card - America's Governors, 2004.]


Romney's "accomplishments".

1. Implemented/created Gay Marriage in MA

2. Supported and forced Gay Adoption in MA

3. Supported Abortion wholeheartedly

4. Raised taxes/fees over 300% while being Governor of MA

5. Implemented a state-level Cap and Trade system.

6. Supported Man-Made Global Warming

7. Supported the Brady Bill

8. Implemented a state level “Assault” Weapons Ban after the Federal AWB was allowed to expire.

9. Supported TARP

10. Supported Amnesty for Illegal Aliens (Citizenship for those already here)

11. Supported McCain-Kennedy (Amnesty)

12. Implemented a socialized medicine in MA called RomneyCare complete with an Individual Mandate and $50 abortions.

13. Nominated 27 Democrats (out of 36 nominations) for judgeships in MA, many of them extreme left-wingers.

143 posted on 06/17/2012 1:43:10 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Smart to not answer that question.


144 posted on 06/17/2012 1:51:08 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry, Bachman : I trust their judgment on their 2012 pick.)
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To: Sea Parrot
Bammy is one on the barby rotisserie spit about it, why should Mitt speak out and become the story.

Good question.

Why did Romney feel the need to make a public statement in which he essentially agreed with what Obama's doing - just not the way he's going about it?

How did his statement serve to differentiate him and his agenda from his opponent? Well, it didn't. Romney missed a golden opportunity to slam Obama against the wall over an issue that 70% of the American people are stridently opposed to.

Instead, he indicated his AGREEMENT with Obama's policy, if not his methods. Lord help us. The elites are going to move the ball down field on their agenda no matter which of their puppets is elected.

145 posted on 06/17/2012 1:55:38 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: WilliamIII
The highest in history.

But not as a percentage of GDP. Interesting how you don't address that crucial point.

And, as I said, you also conveniently don't address the many attempts Bush made at reforming things when a bubble was becoming apparent.

Your evasions are the typical ones often used. They're not based on the facts.

146 posted on 06/17/2012 1:56:54 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Drew68
"When the president violates the constitution, his challenger has a duty to call him on it — if the challenge CARES about the Constitution!"

Romney is already on record saying Obama's EO was the wrong way to go about this. Weren't you listening?

Sure. In Romney's mind, Congress should pass an amnesty for illegals bill so that he can sign it. Let's not worry about overriding the express will of the American people, and our immigration laws.

Gotta keep importances in perspective, you know.

147 posted on 06/17/2012 2:03:22 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DarthVader
Dear D.V.,

your’re thinking too narrow.

This must be aimed with passion and fury. So what if it might not pass the Senate.

The Republicans don't try to exercise what power they do have and look worse for the lack of effort. There are Democrats who know Obama has overstepped the Constitutional boundaries and might join with them, resulting in a razor thin defeat, or even pushing it over the line into a surprise victory! But if they never try, they'll never find out.

And why care if his so-called ‘base’ gets fired up? Those are the same people who riot after basketball games.

The purpose is to scare the shit out of the Democrats, cut the dictator want-a-be off at the knees, and demonstrate this government belongs to the people. We're past being polite.

148 posted on 06/17/2012 2:06:36 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: atc23
It is easier to constrain Obama during a second term with majorities in Congress and the Judicial Branch - it wont be easy, mind you but that's the way it is.

"The Devil You Know . . . . .

I see you're another graduate of the Sun Tzu school of political warfare. Congrats for choosing to live with reality, and for not buying tickets to "Mitt Romney: Hope & Change II".

149 posted on 06/17/2012 2:09:22 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“Obama’s looking better and better - as long as he’s restrained by GOP majorities in both houses. “

Just 3 days after Obama goes out of his way to show his arrogant disregard for the Constitution, rule of law, powers of Congress, and political compromise ... you talk of Obama ‘restrained’? My brain hurts..

we have enough proof there is no “restraint” on this would-be dictator. He needs to be removed from office forthwith.


150 posted on 06/17/2012 2:10:23 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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