“Natural born by definition is that there is no need of intervention by law to make persons citizens of a country. The 14th Amendment or any other man-made statutes, cannot create natural born citizens and therefore, they are not natural.”
RS, thank you for finally agreeing with me. There are citizens by birth, or they need to be naturalized - as the Supreme Court has pointed out. A NBC is one whose citizenship is derived from his birth...which would mean Rubio qualifies, on that count.
There are reasons why I do NOT want Rubio on the ticket, namely his tendency to see every issue via the lens of race.
For those interested, the US Supreme Court has already said that the 14th merely echoes, using different words, what was already established by the NBC clause. It wasn’t a new definition, but a repetition:
“The real object of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, in qualifying the words, “All persons born in the United States” by the addition “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” would appear to have been to exclude, by the fewest and fittest words...the two classes of cases — children born of alien enemies in hostile occupation and children of diplomatic representatives of a foreign State — both of which, as has already been shown, by the law of England and by our own law from the time of the first settlement of the English colonies in America, had been recognized exceptions to the fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the country. Calvin’s Case, 7 Rep. 1, 18b; Cockburn on Nationality, 7; Dicey Conflict of Laws, 177; Inglis v. Sailors’ Snug Harbor, 3 Pet. 99, 155; 2 Kent Com. 39, 42.
The principles upon which each of those exceptions rests were long ago distinctly stated by this court. [p683]”
Au contraire, the 14th Amendment is just like any other man-made statute, but the Constitution makes it harder to overturn. The 14th Amendment doesn't bestow anything of the kind or could it make a person a natural born citizen at birth. It does however create a law that makes citizens at birth, but they are not natural.
Maybe you should send your legal understanding about natural born citizens to the OBot lawyers since they ignored the Florida judge yesterday to cite 'authority' that makes Obama a natural born citizen. It's no wonder why they did not. LoL.
I like Rubio, he's my Senator and early on, I was an ardent supporter of him in the VP slot. However, I'm starting to think that he might not yet be ready. I think he needs some further polishing to become the statesman that he certainly has the potential to be. Furthermore, after Obama's recent coup on the immigration issue, Rubio has become a bit polarizing with some of the comments he's made and positions he's taken. In an election this important, we can't afford to have the VP pick saddled with controversial positions that might further alienate certain segments of voters.
Finally, I'll concede this eligibility thing. While you and I know that Rubio is perfectly eligible for the office, if as many as five percent of (thoroughly misinformed) voters out there see Rubio as ineligible and refuse to vote for him, this is going to be a big problem for Romney.
This being said, If Romney picks Rubio, I'll support the ticket enthusiastically (as I will regardless of who Romney picks).
The paragraph you cited doesn't say anything at all about the NBC clause. Why are you telling outright and obvious lies??