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Obama grants Holder request on 'Furious' documents as contempt vote looms (Executive Privilege)
FoxNews ^ | June 20, 2012

Posted on 06/20/2012 7:37:10 AM PDT by stevie_d_64

President Obama has granted an 11th-hour request by Attorney General Eric Holder to exert executive privilege over Fast and Furious documents, a last-minute maneuver that appears unlikely to head off a contempt vote against Holder by Republicans in the House.

The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee is expected to forge ahead Wednesday morning with its meeting on the contempt resolution anyway.

If the vote proceeds, Republicans have more than enough votes on committee to pass the resolution. However, Holder would not be considered held in contempt of Congress unless and until the full House approves the measure.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
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To: Bon of Babble

95.01% Full Steam Ahead now

41 posted on 06/20/2012 8:27:24 AM PDT by digital-olive
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To: sanjuanbob
"I think you’re right with your statement and was wondering if Fast and Furious really wasn’t about tracking drug lords but rather a “deal” between the drug lords to use the guns for a short period of time, thus legitimizing that theory, and then with directions on how to get them to the Muslim Brotherhood along with a substantial payoff to these same drug lords."

That is indeed interesting, but I believe it's much more that those records will show, and prove that F&F was in collaboration with well-known anti-2A groups; and by putting the hidden info together with WH visit records, it would show a consistent pattern of Bobo authorizing the illegal F&F gun smuggling for the nefarious purpose of ending 2A.

This is the reason they will go to such great lengths to avoid releasing the records to Rep. Issa -- because anti-2A polls miserably among everyone -- gun ranges are all the rage in hopelessly libtard places like Seattle, Portland, Silicon Valley (Zuckerberg is a hunter! Cazart!), Austin, you name it.

Bobo promulgated F&F at Soros et al bidding, nothing more, nothing less.

A diligent reporter would work this from the anti-2A foundations back to those WH visit records.

42 posted on 06/20/2012 8:28:15 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: crazydad
It isn't just Faux News..

Even the Liberal WaPo is on it, and most of their commentators are calling for impeachment.

Washington Post Article on Executive Privelege

43 posted on 06/20/2012 8:32:51 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: molson209
"so does executive privilege tell us Obama was involved with fast and furious all along[?]"

Definitely. The privilege can only be claimed for communications involving POTUS himself. Now the infection has gone all the way to the Oval Office itself. There was a SCOTS case during Watergate where SCOTUS held the privilege does not apply to allegedly criminal deliberations. That's how the WH tapes got revealed.

As of now, this has gone from an irritant to a really serious threat to the Illegal. It's clear to any reasonable person who's studied F&F that it was a murder conspiracy in service of gun grabbing from the get go. The whole idea was to walk the guns across the border, have them used to produce mass murder, and use that mayhem to argue for gun grabbing in violation of the 2d Amendment. This executive privilege claim proves the Illegal was up to his eyeballs in the whole murder conspiracy. The conspiracy would have failed without the murders; thus the Illegal, Holder, and all their accomplices knowingly intended and desired the murders, making them all legally MASS MURDERERS.

44 posted on 06/20/2012 8:35:44 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: reagandemocrat; xzins
“Executive Priviledge” proves the lie that Obama did not know about F&F. Can’t assert a priviledge over something you didn’t autthorize.

You are absolutely right. That was Nixon's mistake. He invoked it over the Watergate matter which suggested that he was involved in it from the beginning and that he had authorized the break in.

Obviously the documents requested will point the smoking gun in Obama's direction.

The question of the hour is whether or not the Congress has the guts to do anything about this? I doubt it. Obama will get away with it. The MSM, instead of pushing the investigation as they did in Watergate, will join with Obama in his attempts to cover it up.

The shredders are working overtime as we type.

45 posted on 06/20/2012 8:36:19 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: stevie_d_64

Has Obama shown is pathetic face this morning?

46 posted on 06/20/2012 8:37:45 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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To: stevie_d_64

if obummer claims exec privy then he must be in on it - exec privy only applies if the prez is personally involved

47 posted on 06/20/2012 8:39:37 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (liberalism is the assault on the natural human condition)
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To: crazydad

“....It doesn’t matter what Fox says or do the liberals will never trust Fox, they have been brain washed to believe fox is the only biased news outlet. Calling it Faux news and F-News. It won’t matter if 110% say Obama is a liar and a crook if it is Fox news there is no news in the mind of Liberals....”

Ahh, yes! You are so right. Liberalism is such a chronic, debilitating mental disease. Their brains just rot out. They eventually become just like zombies. Sad. Shoulda kept em all locked up in the mental wards.

48 posted on 06/20/2012 8:42:19 AM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: lgjhn23

Geez... Haven’t any of you read the Wisconsin Dem playbook?

They will vote for contempt charges. Then the entire Democrat side of the House will leave Washington so there cannot be a vote.

They will change the narrative, blame Republicans and the MSM will side with the RATS.

49 posted on 06/20/2012 8:46:31 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: StAnDeliver

Soetoro (or whatever his real name is) to Sarah Brady: “we are working on gun control under the radar.”

50 posted on 06/20/2012 8:47:39 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: stevie_d_64

A lot of Democrats will vote in the house for the contempt measure. Not for any noble motives, but because they are scared of the NRA. There are a lot of them from southern and midwastern states, who need a good NRA rating to win reelection, and know there are enough Pub votes to pass it anyway.

51 posted on 06/20/2012 8:48:03 AM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: P-Marlowe
Obviously the documents requested will point the smoking gun in Obama's direction.

After watching the smarter Democrats today and their very tepid responses (for them) I'm convinced that Issa already has a smoking gun that has been leaked. Issa has the goods on Holder and Obama. And the Democrats know it.

Some people might think that Obama is doing a rope-a-dope here. That he is playing around in an election year. That he is asserting executive priviledge then he will revoke the assertion and nothing will be found that attaches Obama to F&F. But Obama has proved time and again he is not very bright. That plus his inexperience and want to not follow the law have finally caught up with him.

Obama is ripe for a take down. The interesting thing is that he might be taken down by his own. Obama is crashing so fast that the Democrats may help his downfall. He is becoming a big liability.

The Democrats look worried to me. And they should be.

52 posted on 06/20/2012 8:58:34 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: LegendHasIt

God, PLEASE let them do their duty. This dirty junta can be stopped in its tracks RIGHT NOW, if they’ve really got the goods on him. If it fails, he probably gets re-elected.

53 posted on 06/20/2012 9:02:10 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: StAnDeliver

I’m with you 100% on Obama being in favor of gun control. If he wanted to make his perverted point of mass murder, it would have had a lot more effect if the blood baths were right here in this country. There are plenty of criminals and gangs that could be manipulated to “support” his point far more than the death of a single border agent. (Apology in support of discussion).

Why would our government need to be involved with drug lords who could just purchase whatever they wanted here and payoff Mexican border guards on their own? I still think that these guns could be in the hands of Muslim extremists...although there is nothing in your correspondence that I disagree with.

54 posted on 06/20/2012 9:07:02 AM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: isthisnickcool

How many Democrats who are running for their jobs this fall are shaking in their boots right about now???

How many will try to keep pulling this wagon for Bammy and Holder???

I am guessing that many will become very tired of being in the position of being thrown under the bus & they will think it over carefully about how much they continue to support Bammy & Holder.

55 posted on 06/20/2012 9:08:15 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: stevie_d_64

Impeach these bastards!

56 posted on 06/20/2012 9:11:19 AM PDT by cblue55 (The only truly hopeful future for America will be the defeat of Obama on November 6.)
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To: sanjuanbob
If he wanted to make his perverted point of mass murder, it would have had a lot more effect if the blood baths were right here in this country.

The conventional wisdom is that it would be too difficult to hide such a gun walking operation domestically. Since it is much easier [much] to remain covert while working w/ foreign criminals and similar results were expected, it was decided to go in that direction.

It didn't work out - especially after Brian's murder.

57 posted on 06/20/2012 9:13:52 AM PDT by Principled (It's not enthusiasm for Romney, it's grim determination to remove Hussein)
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To: scooby321
Following the Guidelines on the tapes on Nixon case. Obama goose is cooked. He is desperate

It took a long time to get Nixon - and it'll take a while to get this bunch... still it looks like you're right - one obama cooked goose...

58 posted on 06/20/2012 9:14:50 AM PDT by GOPJ (The 'doting court eunuchs' of the MSM fail to notice...)
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To: molson209
so does executive privilege tell us Obama was involved with fast and furious all along

It tells us Obama was personally involved and committed impeachable offenses. And Holder no doubt let him know that he would have to spill the beans if Obama didn't invoke executive privilege.

59 posted on 06/20/2012 9:29:46 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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The Press HATED Nixon.

The Press LOVES Obama.

The only Goose that is cooked is served at an Obama Fundraiser.

If Obama was a White Republican, they would have written him off years ago. The Nixon parallels would a daily topic of discussion.

60 posted on 06/20/2012 9:30:15 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
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