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Obama Asserts Executive Privilege in Gun-Trafficking Rift
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 20, 2012 | EVAN PEREZ

Posted on 06/20/2012 8:27:25 AM PDT by lbryce

The White House asserted executive privilege Wednesday over some gun-trafficking-probe documents sought by congressional Republicans, throwing into uncertainty a possible vote to sanction Attorney General Eric Holder with contempt of Congress.

The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee was meeting Wednesday morning to discuss the contempt fight. The panel's chairman, Rep. Darrell Issa (R., Calif.), said the committee was evaluating the White House's assertion.

In a letter to Mr. Issa, Deputy Attorney General James Cole said the president had asserted the privilege to block the documents from being released, but he held out the possibility of negotiating an agreement over the documents.

Sen. Charles Grassley (R., Iowa) criticized the White House. "How can the president exert executive privilege over documents he's supposedly never seen?" Mr. Grassley said.

Messrs. Issa and Holder met Tuesday for 20 minutes. From their accounts, it has become a game of chicken, with each side insisting the other act first to resolve the standoff.

Mr. Holder said Mr. Issa rejected his offer to provide documents because the lawmaker wouldn't agree that they would fulfill a subpoena, effectively ending the contempt threat. Mr. Issa said the attorney general didn't come prepared to provide documents and that the contempt threat can't be removed until the documents are produced.

At issue are Justice Department documents that Messrs. Issa and Grassley have sought and that the department resisted turning over in the congressional investigation into a botched gun-trafficking probe called Fast and Furious. The department said the documents reflected internal deliberation or were related to continuing criminal investigations and therefore weren't subject to congressional subpoena.

The dispute centers on a 2009-10 operation run by Arizona-based agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, aimed at building a case against suspected smugglers of firearms to Mexico.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; executiveprivilege; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; murdergate; nixon; obama
Love the sound of "Executive privilege" in the morning. Makes me smile, feel all good inside. It's like some evil incantation conjuring up Constitutional spirits who don't seem to like the phrase. Before you can say 'expletive deleted', the phrase and the phrase(s) its meant to convey, we'll hopefully (but not likely. I can dream, can't I?) get to see see Zero and Wookie take off from the White House lawn, "V" shaped hands outstretched, for the last time.
1 posted on 06/20/2012 8:27:31 AM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

This formally puts Brian Terry’s death on the White House doorstep.

I’ll cut myself off there otherwise my language would get me the ban hammer.


2 posted on 06/20/2012 8:30:55 AM PDT by digital-olive
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To: lbryce
Holder is not being thrown under the bus - the President has just chained himself to Holder.

Holder has some kind of leverage.

3 posted on 06/20/2012 8:32:51 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: lbryce

This is what Issa needs to say:

“We can only presume the President invoked EP to protect Mr. Holder and/or himself from incriminating information in those files. Therefore we will continue with every means possible to obtain all documents related to this botched gun-running operation.”


4 posted on 06/20/2012 8:35:09 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (No matter how cynical you get, it's never enough to keep up.)
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To: lbryce; potlatch; PhilDragoo

This kind of blows the MSM cover that we were merely running a law enforcement sting to nab the nasty narcoterrorists. Sure we were.


5 posted on 06/20/2012 8:35:26 AM PDT by ntnychik
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To: wideawake

I wholeheartedly agree. It seems he’s got President Effete by his leather jock-strap with an electric cattle prod, so to speak.


6 posted on 06/20/2012 8:39:56 AM PDT by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds by way of Trinity, NM)
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To: lbryce
If my memory is right Holder testified that he never briefed Obama on F & F.

Not that a jury in DC would ever convict him for murder

7 posted on 06/20/2012 8:42:39 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: lbryce

Well, now we KNOW F&F’s scandal goes right to POTUS. We don’t just have to suspect it anymore. What options are left to convict these treasonous bastards?


8 posted on 06/20/2012 8:42:44 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: lbryce
President Obama is using executive privilege to cover Attorney General Eric Holder from releasing Fast and Furious documents

Just impeach both these currupt bastards!!!
Yes, it won't go anyplace, but it will make the whole country (except the communists) feel better.

9 posted on 06/20/2012 8:46:09 AM PDT by GoldenPup (Comrade "O" has got to GO!!)
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To: scooby321

What a web we weave when first we practice to deceive......

Obama has been a liar all of his life. He has NEVER been held accountable for any of it.

His lies are catching up with him.

Holder & Bammy did their best to push this all off until after November elections.......

Seems they are falling quite a bit short-—of even the Democrat Convention & the nomination!!

Will Hillary be the nominee to ‘save the day’???

When Holder & others at the “Justice Department’ figure out that they are being thrown under the bus, who will crack first & call some investigative reporter or Rush or Hannity for an ‘exclusive’ interview?

Who will be the first lawyer to step up and help the Brian Terry family with their lawsuit over the Border agent’s death???

Seems the wheels will come off very fast if Congress & Issa have once ounce of guts to follow this thru.

Where’s my popcorn???


10 posted on 06/20/2012 8:48:53 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: lbryce
Love the sound of "Executive privilege" in the morning.

Not me. Scares the cr*p out of me. How is this not the beginning of the dictatorship of Barry the first?

I was worried that the election of 2016 would be postponed at the end of Barry I's 2nd term. Now I am worried that they will try something this year.

11 posted on 06/20/2012 8:49:39 AM PDT by tpmintx (Problem: The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: lbryce

Changed my tag line


12 posted on 06/20/2012 8:53:34 AM PDT by eCSMaster (No one died in Watergate!)
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To: lbryce

If Obama is setting the stage to resign ala Nixon? He took a big step today. Could he be so rattled and overwhelmed that he’s making decisions out of sheer political survival?


13 posted on 06/20/2012 8:55:05 AM PDT by Harley (Will Rogers never met Harry Reid.)
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To: wideawake

Bobo and Jarrett need withHolder more than he needs them. He’s not going under any bus at their hands. He may go under at Issa’s hands, but they’re going with him. You are correct, Bobo is all in now, handcuffed to withholder.


14 posted on 06/20/2012 9:11:24 AM PDT by CPO retired
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To: tpmintx
Fair enough. Of course I am not advocating any such thing you imply. Loving the sound of "Executive Privilege" as prelude to the deserved comeuppance to those involved the last time it was invoked by White House occupants. Also meant to pay homage to Robert Duvall who as commander in "Apocalypse Now" says "Love the smell of napalm in the morning" after awesome opening scene of helicopter attack on the beach just as the sun is rising.
15 posted on 06/20/2012 9:13:52 AM PDT by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds by way of Trinity, NM)
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To: lbryce

16 posted on 06/20/2012 9:16:17 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (<a href="http://originalvelvetrevolution.com" title="Velvet Revolution">Velvet Revolution</a>)
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To: wideawake

I suspect Holder told Obama: if I go under the bus , I am taking you with me.

Time to watch your back Holder. Stay out of the park across from the White House. Do not take any overseas trips. Be careful crossing the street.


17 posted on 06/20/2012 9:18:36 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963; lbryce; CPO retired
Another argument is that the subpoenaed documents may reveal that the President was well-informed about the operation all along and that Holder simply presented him with the requested materials and said: "If these documents get out, it's both of us. Our best shot is to invoke privilege."

So it could be Holder using leverage or it could be Holder just laying out the bad news for the President - either way, if the President could have cut Holder loose his track record says he would have. For some reason, he feels that he cannot follow his usual practice in this particular matter.

Issa is onto something good.

18 posted on 06/20/2012 9:27:27 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: lbryce
I got your napalm reference first time around.

This case will go one of 2 ways. The media and the country might decide that they have had enough of King Barry I and his childish socialist antics, or the media will continue to run defense for the guy.

If Executive Privilege is what it takes to get the 0bama-loving media to take a second look at their young leader, then I too, love the sound of Executive Privilege, regardless of the time of day.

19 posted on 06/20/2012 10:07:24 AM PDT by tpmintx (Problem: The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: tpmintx

Well said.


20 posted on 06/20/2012 10:19:44 AM PDT by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds by way of Trinity, NM)
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To: tpmintx

I have thought that Holder would get thrown under the bus or resign, to protect the won. In either case he goes into the park with an empty briefcase...................


21 posted on 06/20/2012 12:02:02 PM PDT by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: ntnychik; lbryce; potlatch; bitt; dixiechick2000

22 posted on 06/20/2012 1:05:32 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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It’s time for another “OH, COME NOW” Award. Michelle Bachman is on the job! She’s going to write a resolution and have it signed by SOME members of congress telling obama he’s not above the law and he’s not above the constitution. Ms. Bachman says this will be a big warning to obama and will have teeth. All I can say is: “Oh, come now, Ms. Bachman.”


23 posted on 06/20/2012 11:39:38 PM PDT by Terry Mross (To My Liberal Kinfolk: Don't call, email or write until you've gotten your brain fixed.)
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