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US SCOTUS Decision (10am) Open thread for Thursday June 21st, 2012

Posted on 06/21/2012 2:58:37 AM PDT by Perdogg

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Today the court is handing down decisions, possibly in the Arizona Immigration Law case.

Make your Prediction on:

1. Az Immigration law

2a. Heathcare Mandate

2b. Heathcare Servability

3. Stolen Valor Act


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: notbreakingnews; scotus; scotuslivewatch; scotusobamacare; scotuswatch; vanity
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To: Perdogg

It is pretty clear that Obama is going to run against the SCOTUS in the upcoming election. I think that is why he claimed Executive Privilege on F&F — just to pick another fight with the Justices.

Of course, his tongue lashing of the SCOTUS will not serve him well, but he will blame the court for holding back Hope and Change.


41 posted on 06/21/2012 5:05:13 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: bjcoop

Did you read his tagline? “Nabob of Negativity”


42 posted on 06/21/2012 5:08:42 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: buckalfa

I’ll join in your cynicism. They wouldn’t be my hope or predictions but as things are? I can see it happening that way.


43 posted on 06/21/2012 5:17:24 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Perdogg

Stolen Valor Today. Immigration next Monday. Health Care next Thursday.


44 posted on 06/21/2012 5:21:13 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Perdogg

Given the screwwy nature of our political world, I’ll predict the most convoluted, illogical outcome possible:

5-4 to strike down Az Immigration

5-4 to strike down Individual Mandate

5-4 to uphold the rest of Obamacare


45 posted on 06/21/2012 5:22:02 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Behind enemy lines in the city where it's illegal to buy a Big Gulp)
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To: Sacajaweau

Respectfully disagree. Sotomayor, Kaga, and Ginsberg ALL will never give up liberalism and bias against freedom.

My guess is that Kennedy is the deciding factor in a 5-4 decision on everything.


46 posted on 06/21/2012 5:25:17 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Perdogg

I predict that no matter what the Supreme Court decides Obama will continue to act as if he alone is the only legitimate branch of government.


47 posted on 06/21/2012 5:29:52 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: Perdogg

1. Az Immigration law - Upheld

2a. Heathcare Mandate - Overturned

2b. Heathcare Severability - It is NOT severable, as they took specific action to omit this provision. It would not have passed without taking this step.

3. Stolen Valor Act - upheld


48 posted on 06/21/2012 5:32:48 AM PDT by G Larry (There's no hope of a safe landing when you hire a suicidal pilot!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I think Monday is the last day.


49 posted on 06/21/2012 5:34:55 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: ClearCase_guy

Not to worry.

Obama will be so focused on salvaging Obamacare, it will remain a threat and a battle line through the election.


50 posted on 06/21/2012 5:35:00 AM PDT by G Larry (There's no hope of a safe landing when you hire a suicidal pilot!)
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To: P-Marlowe

And the Republicans will continue to be spineless cowards who won’t do anything. I’m sure the Mittster will have plenty of ambiguous statements ready to go.

Sigh.

I don’t think there’s any way we’ll see Obamacare completely overturned. I say the mandate gets struck down 5-4 with Kennedy as the deciding vote.


51 posted on 06/21/2012 5:36:15 AM PDT by Cato in PA (1/26/12: Bloody Thursday)
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To: Sacajaweau
If Congress where to "do their job" in regards to health care, they'd leave it the f*ck alone.

There is no Art 1 Sec 8 power to control our healthcare system.

52 posted on 06/21/2012 5:39:01 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Perdogg

I think they will make us wait until next week to get the healthcare decision. I am hoping arizona wins today at the very least.


53 posted on 06/21/2012 5:39:01 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: P-Marlowe

“I predict that no matter what the Supreme Court decides Obama will continue to act as if he alone is the only legitimate branch of government.”
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That’d be hard to do without funding or cooperation of the states or insurance companies.
Predictions:
Az law: 7-1 upheld
Mandate: 5-4 overturned
Severability: Not sever able 6-3


54 posted on 06/21/2012 5:47:14 AM PDT by katieanna
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To: ari-freedom
I’m prepared for a nasty surprise on health care. Not that they would vote and not have a majority in favor of repeal but rather a punt in order not to take any stand

Wow, it's almost frightening to think about.

I mean, the reaction of people who know what this means would be akin to "duck and cover". People would be scrambling to salvage what they could of their business assets and other financial investments.

It could crash an already abysmal economy.

The EU would know that there's no bailout, because any money would have just come off the presses and have no real, stable value.

We'd be a pauper nation with a poor ruling from SCOTUS, and I think it'd have that hard an impact in a matter of days if not hours.

55 posted on 06/21/2012 5:51:52 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Reo

The Weather Channel can’t tell the lies fast enough.

Holder’s woes this morning are a result of a Republican fishing expedition, according to TWC’s best meteorologists.


56 posted on 06/21/2012 6:00:20 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Dead Corpse

I agree........


57 posted on 06/21/2012 6:00:38 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: JerseyDvl

“I think they will make us wait until next week to get the healthcare decision.”

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Ditto.


58 posted on 06/21/2012 6:04:40 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: katieanna

I’ll share this with you all: I was in Washington over spring break and while waiting for the Metro, talked with a lady briefly. I told her that HC concerns me because I have an excellent situation with my doctor. She has my full confidence and there is a medication that I MUST take. I told this lady I cannot have my medical situation disturbed by a bad law. The lady looked at me with sincerity and said “ Well, I think you can stay on your current plan if you want to b/c not everybody is affected by the law”. I was stunned that someone in Washington would be that ignorant of the far-reaching aspects of this law.
Kate


59 posted on 06/21/2012 6:05:11 AM PDT by katieanna
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To: Caipirabob

“It could crash an already abysmal economy.”

We’re supposed to call it a “fragile recovery” thanks to the Hussein Heads.


60 posted on 06/21/2012 6:05:19 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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