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Krauthammer: Mainstream Media Can No Longer Ignore Fast & Furious
realclearpolitics.com ^ | 20 June, 2012 | Ian Schwartz

Posted on 06/21/2012 5:06:06 AM PDT by marktwain

Edited on 06/21/2012 5:15:08 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

"It has several immediate effects," syndicated columnist and FOX News contributor Charles Krauthammer said about President Obama using executive privilege to protect Attorney General Eric Holder from the Fast & Furious investigation today.

"The first is, as you mentioned in the grapevine, there's no way that the mainstream media, which have studiously tried to ignore this can do that anymore. In fact, as you pointed out, NBC, which has shown exactly ten seconds of coverage of this on its Evening News in the last year-and-a-half, is now going to have to explain the whole thing since the viewership has no idea what it's about. So, number one, it becomes huge national issue," Krauthammer said on a special edition of the panel on FOX News' "Special Report" broadcast this evening.


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"And that is the line that the Democrats will take."

Therefore, it is the line the MSM will take.

1 posted on 06/21/2012 5:06:10 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: MestaMachine

Gunwalker / Murdergate ping.


2 posted on 06/21/2012 5:07:26 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

Krauthammer’s 2 cents.


4 posted on 06/21/2012 5:11:17 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: marktwain
MSM would already have been paying attention if Terry had been a black agent killed by a white murderer.

Obama cares about people who "look like me" and Holder wants justice for "my people."

March 2, 2011 'My People' and the American People Eric Holder Serves M. Catharine Evans

5 posted on 06/21/2012 5:11:39 AM PDT by syriacus (Obama Holder Napolitano conspiracy. 800,000 illegals become voters so swing states will swing Left.)
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To: marktwain

Yes they can. They have almost completely eschewed even attempting to appear somewhat unbiased. They don’t care, as long as their reporting supports their agenda and what they’ve deluded themselves into thinking is right.


6 posted on 06/21/2012 5:12:24 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: marktwain
And that is what I am worried about. The MSM has been SO silent. They will NOW frame the narrative towards the democrats talking points.

We have all the right and truth on our side...but we do not have the vehicle to convey that to the public. and bottom line, this is this BIGGEST election of a lifetime and this is ALL about PR right now.

7 posted on 06/21/2012 5:14:47 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: marktwain
"We're still working on gun control, but under the radar."

~~Pres. Obama to Sarah Brady


8 posted on 06/21/2012 5:23:03 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”The first is, as you mentioned in the grapevine, there's no way that the mainstream media, which have studiously tried to ignore this can do that anymore. In fact, as you pointed out, NBC, which has shown exactly ten seconds of coverage of this on its Evening News in the last year-and-a-half, is now going to have to explain the whole thing since the viewership has no idea what it's about. So, number one, it becomes huge national issue,” Krauthammer said on a special edition of the panel on FOX News’ “Special Report” broadcast this evening.

I saw that yesterday when it was broadcast about 6:40pm EST, however he also said this has the potential to hurt Republicans in the election. He said it will rally Republicans to vote but has the potential to turn the undecided (who do not follow closely the details of these disputes) against Republicans. I know that is not as much fun as the post title,

9 posted on 06/21/2012 5:24:55 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: NELSON111

I watched some of the Ed Schultz/ Rachel Maddow alternate universe last evening.

No joke, Maddow’s timeline on this is a conservative blogger in 2010 wrote that people should break democrats’ windows. Then Gabbie Giffords was shot, followed by the contempt vote on Eric Holder.

Also, their shows were devoted to: Why aren’t BUSH administration officials testifying to everything they know about this????


10 posted on 06/21/2012 5:25:49 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: marktwain
I think Krauthammer misunderestimates the ability of the MSM to embarrass themselves.
11 posted on 06/21/2012 5:28:01 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Behind enemy lines in the city where it's illegal to buy a Big Gulp)
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To: NELSON111

And the reason this is happening is because the MSM has unfettered control of the information the American people get.

We are going after the wrong people. We need to do an SEIU on Chris Matthews lawn. Harrass Farid Zakariah to no end. Put the characters in the media into the public spotlight. Make it personal.

I think it goes something like this.

“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

Give the left a taste of their own medicine. That my friends is how you win wars. We are looking at the MSM the wrong way. If we look at it in the following perspective we know what needs to be done;

“Command and control, or C2, in a military organization is the exercise of authority and direction by a properly designated commanding officer over assigned and attached forces in the accomplishment of the mission. The term may also refer to command and control systems within a military system.”

To rephrase:

The MSM, in a political organization is the exercise of authority and direction by the Democrat Party over assigned and attached reporters in the accomplishment of the mission. The term may also refer to Obama’s White House within the political system.


12 posted on 06/21/2012 5:30:40 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: marktwain
Operation Fast & Furious had as its central purpose the subversion of the US Constitution. The program's stategy was to gin up a furor over guns sourced in the US being used in Mexican crime so that the US public could be stampeded into restricting the 2nd Amendment.. Since few such guns were being used in Mexico more had to be supplied. They also had to show up at crime scenes so that they could be traced back to the US to 'prove' the Obama administration's assertions.

The GOP should be harping on one message every time F&F is mentioned. F&F was a program designed to result in Mexican deaths - so that 'evil' US-sourced guns could be found at the crime scenes and US gun laws could be blamed for the carnage. Holder, Napolitano, Hillary and Obama and a host of their minions cooked this program up knowing that Mexicans would die - in fact, needing Mexicans to die for this scheme to work. The Obama administration was cynically willing to slaughter Hispanics to accomplish their political purposes. The only "botch" in the scheme was F&F guns turning up to get Americans killed too.

13 posted on 06/21/2012 5:32:03 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: marktwain
"The first is, as you mentioned in the grapevine, there's no way that the mainstream media, which have studiously tried to ignore this can do that anymore."

You just watch, Kraut. Watch and be amazed.

14 posted on 06/21/2012 5:32:39 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: marktwain

The Mainstream Media has taken a mission to hide anything that would embarrass the Obama admin since the start. Why would they change now? “If you don’t read about it or see it on tv, it didn’t happen” is their motto.


15 posted on 06/21/2012 5:35:44 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: marktwain

I wouldn’t be too sure the media won’t ignore it, Charles.


16 posted on 06/21/2012 5:36:12 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: marktwain

MSM media won’t cover it until the Obama administration could come up with a good defence, then the media will rally around and circle the wagon for them. This have been a pattern with the media.


17 posted on 06/21/2012 5:37:45 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: popdonnelly

They won’t ignore it—they will spin it as all Bush’s fault.


18 posted on 06/21/2012 5:38:44 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: 4rcane

This is like the Birther story. The media refused to cover this for years, til Obama admin came up with a defense with forged documents


19 posted on 06/21/2012 5:38:44 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: marktwain

The MSM puts blacks above the law,it’s a rssult of white guilt.
Also the MSM has never judged rule by law only by feelings.


20 posted on 06/21/2012 5:39:42 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: marktwain
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21 posted on 06/21/2012 5:40:49 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: marktwain

Oh, the MSM is taking notice -

For example, this ‘editorial’ from the Trend-Setting New York Times —

A Pointless Partisan Fight
Thursday, June 21, 2012 5:54:00 AM · by Sir Napsalot · 17 replies
NYT Editorial ^ | 6-20-2012 | Editorial

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2897722/posts

So, instead of reportage, we’re gonna get wall-to-wall spin about how “This is nothing, and besides, it’s the Republicans’ fault” (And the sheeple will just lap it up...)


22 posted on 06/21/2012 5:41:53 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Personal Responsibility

I always had a lot of respect for Charlie but how can someone as brilliant as he is so grossly underestimate the power of the MSM to ignore something as huge as this should be? Sorry Charlie, nothing to see here keep moving. Just typical republicans trying to bring down another black man.
Race card: thrown down!
Issa a and Grassley probably working for David Duke in secret.

Helping keep mankind warm for 65 years


23 posted on 06/21/2012 5:44:14 AM PDT by rktman
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To: Paine in the Neck
Operation Fast & Furious had as its central purpose the subversion of the US Constitution. The program's stategy was to gin up a furor over guns sourced in the US being used in Mexican crime so that the US public could be stampeded into restricting the 2nd Amendment.. Since few such guns were being used in Mexico more had to be supplied. They also had to show up at crime scenes so that they could be traced back to the US to 'prove' the Obama administration's assertions.

The GOP should be harping on one message every time F&F is mentioned. F&F was a program designed to result in Mexican deaths - so that 'evil' US-sourced guns could be found at the crime scenes and US gun laws could be blamed for the carnage. Holder, Napolitano, Hillary and Obama and a host of their minions cooked this program up knowing that Mexicans would die - in fact, needing Mexicans to die for this scheme to work. The Obama administration was cynically willing to slaughter Hispanics to accomplish their political purposes. The only "botch" in the scheme was F&F guns turning up to get Americans killed too.

The question is, how many REPUBLICANS understand all this. I think the answer is: far too few.
24 posted on 06/21/2012 5:50:14 AM PDT by samtheman (If we want Obamugabe out, we must vote him out.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
In a better world, after the dust has settled on this affair, David Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh would be hailed as public heroes.

Reality being what it is, they will likely go largely unmentioned. And if Obama manages to get re-elected, well...

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

25 posted on 06/21/2012 5:59:24 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain

“...there’s no way that the mainstream media, which have studiously tried to ignore this can do that anymore”

LSM may no longer be able to ignore the story, but the spin will be that it’s a racist witch hunt. After all, it was only a white border patrol agent that died here.


26 posted on 06/21/2012 6:08:46 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Paine in the Neck
Holder, Napolitano, Hillary and Obama and a host of their minions cooked this program up knowing that Mexicans would die - in fact, needing Mexicans to die for this scheme to work. The Obama administration was cynically willing to slaughter Hispanics to accomplish their political purposes. The only "botch" in the scheme was F&F guns turning up to get Americans killed too.

What you say is absolutely true.

But, imagine how the conversation went when the plotters were doing their plotting:

Janet: But, but, but won't people die? How can we do this. We'll have blood on our hands.

Chorus (Barak, Eric and Hillary in unison): Not to fear, they will die anyway. Only the guns will change. They'll be American guns instead of Japanese or Korean or French guns.

Janet: Oh thank you so much. I can sleep easily now. I vote we go for it.

Chorus: It's unanimous.

27 posted on 06/21/2012 6:22:39 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: All

Obama Security Leaks OK, Fast and Furious Docs Stay Under Wraps

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/06/obama_security_leaks_ok_fast_and_furious_docs_stay_under_wraps.html


28 posted on 06/21/2012 6:33:29 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: rbg81
Sean Hannity last night had Michelle Malkin and some Democrat woman on to discuss this. The Democrat blamed Bush and then kept interrupting Michelle trying to prevent her from setting the record straight.

How much time did the MSM devote to this? I watched a couple of minutes on ABC where they did talk about it, but they have Jake Tapper who has not been completely in the tank for Obama. I don't know how NBC and CBS covered it.

29 posted on 06/21/2012 7:05:08 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Well, Democrats tend to be liars. They get agitated when facts contradict their agenda.


30 posted on 06/21/2012 7:19:48 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: Paine in the Neck
The GOP should be harping on one message every time F&F is mentioned. F&F was a program designed to result in Mexican deaths - so that 'evil' US-sourced guns could be found at the crime scenes and US gun laws could be blamed for the carnage. Holder, Napolitano, Hillary and Obama and a host of their minions cooked this program up knowing that Mexicans would die - in fact, needing Mexicans to die for this scheme to work. The Obama administration was cynically willing to slaughter Hispanics to accomplish their political purposes. The only "botch" in the scheme was F&F guns turning up to get Americans killed too.

Can't agree more. Properly enunciated (by not using words like "enunciated" ;-) that strategy will put the kibosh on any Latino bump for the Dems. Even better, it's true - there is no other straightforward explanation for the Administration's behavior.

31 posted on 06/21/2012 7:39:33 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau

where are the trial lawyers ready to sue for this attempted/achieved murder?

where are the prosecutors?

isn’t this such a “shocks the conscience” moment as to pierce sovereign immunity?


32 posted on 06/21/2012 9:23:08 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Personal Responsibility

during the next Democrat convention, the new media and unbiased media should be pointing their cameras at CNN, MSNBC, CBS, AND FNC DURING the speeches.

Record them cheering for Obama.

Ignor Obama we know his speech. put the MSM on record.


33 posted on 06/21/2012 9:34:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: marktwain

The MSM tried to protect John Edwards too. Guess their reputation didn’t take enough of a beating on that one - so now they’re going to ‘protect’ Holder. Fools.


34 posted on 06/21/2012 6:37:37 PM PDT by GOPJ (The 'doting court eunuchs' of the MSM fail to notice...)
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To: sickoflibs
The nice thing about the 'undecideds' is that they're starting to NOT trust the MSM... the Walter Cronkite effect's waning.

What's hurting MSM credibility the most? Hiding black crime... The press doesn't know how obvious that one is... and how people stop trusting institutions that lie...

35 posted on 06/21/2012 6:44:37 PM PDT by GOPJ (The 'doting court eunuchs' of the MSM fail to notice...)
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