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Desperation: Obama Surrogate Calls to Make Voting Mandatory
breitbart.com ^ | 6/21/12 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 06/21/2012 4:23:13 PM PDT by ColdOne

Peter Orszag, former head of the Obama Office of Management and Budget, is desperate. With even Roll Call recognizing that President Obama is fighting an uphill battle for re-election, Orszag is floating a trial balloon: mandatory voting. His call for forced voting comes in an op/ed for Bloomberg News:

The U.S. prides itself as the beacon of democracy, but it’s very likely no U.S. president has ever been elected by a majority of American adults.

It’s our own fault -- because voter participation rates are running below 60 percent, a candidate would have to win 85 percent or more of the vote to be elected by a majority.

Compulsory voting, as exists in Australia and more than two dozen other countries, would fix that problem. As William Galston of the Brookings Institution argues, “Jury duty is mandatory; why not voting?”

During the 2008 election cycle, voter participation was approximately 64 percent; in 2004, it was about the same. Orszag wants that number up. Why?

Beyond simply raising participation, compulsory voting could alter the role of money in elections. Turn-out-the-vote efforts, often bankrolled by big-money groups, would become largely irrelevant. Negative advertising could be less effective, because a central aim of such ads is to discourage participation in the opponent’s camp.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dictatorship; dncbrownshirts; forcedvoting; howtostealanelection; idiocy; insanity; liberal; lunacy; mandatoryvoting; obama; obamunism; orszag; stupidvote; surrogate; uninformedvote; voterid
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To: ColdOne; Eaker; tubebender; Pete-R-Bilt; Travis McGee

Mandatory voting? I’m all for it! Citizen taxpayers must vote! Everyone else, sit and watch.


51 posted on 06/21/2012 7:01:41 PM PDT by glock rocks (optimist / pessimist? I'm an awesomist - There's a dragon in that glass!)
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To: DBrow

Yet the Liberals always scream the people are too stupid to vote


52 posted on 06/21/2012 7:02:10 PM PDT by MNDude ( Victimhood is the Holy Grail of liberalism)
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To: muir_redwoods

Okay, Mr. Orzag, just for fun, please point to the part of the constitution that allows for mandatory voting.
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Haven’t you noticed? The Constitution no longer exists to these people. Not until a Republican is in office, that is.


53 posted on 06/21/2012 7:09:07 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. ~ Oleg Atbashian (People's Cube))
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To: ColdOne

This should have made the Rick Dees weekly top 40 in 2010 !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pMZkuPcOJE


54 posted on 06/21/2012 7:09:57 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: ColdOne
Reading this, the first thought which came into my head:

"Oh, go ƒµ¢ƙ yourself."

55 posted on 06/21/2012 7:13:35 PM PDT by magellan
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

LOL! I had forgotten about that! Thanks for the reminder!

This is why it is a problem with ‘revenge of the nerds’. They’re totalitarians. EVERY time.


56 posted on 06/21/2012 7:13:42 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. ~ Oleg Atbashian (People's Cube))
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To: ColdOne
Oh yea and a no vote is a vote for the Marxist dictator incumbent.
57 posted on 06/21/2012 7:14:03 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: DBrow

never happen. You’d need positive picture ID at the polls to be sure you got everyone
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
The state of Virginia is now offering (one time $10 fee) an ID card specifically for Veterans.

To get the card, I had to show them a state issued ID, and a 214 but I also showed my VA card (which they don’t require but the clerk ‘appreciated’ it as it was another qualifier).

So, in essence, I showed 3 to pay to get 1 and yet these idiots claim it is to hard to get ID’s.

I am really surprised that the Pols haven’t brought up the (FREE) National ID again but that really would present a quagmire for the Liberals.

I think I will show up at the next Union election and ‘vote’ without a card....hmmmmm


58 posted on 06/21/2012 7:17:25 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 Let's start from scratch by voting ALL incumbents out.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Jury duty is mandatory; why not voting If you are not registered to vote, most likely you are not on jury duty selection radar.

I don't know how they do it where you live, but California uses DMV driver's license lists as well as voter registrations.

59 posted on 06/21/2012 7:22:46 PM PDT by Bob
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To: ColdOne

Oh goodie, just like North Korea: 99.98% turnout, with 100% voting for Kim Jong-Il.


60 posted on 06/21/2012 7:33:16 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc... not just pretty words...)
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To: ex91B10

Good one! :)


61 posted on 06/21/2012 7:37:19 PM PDT by unkus
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To: ColdOne

Ads whole new meaning to the commie ‘RATS “Vote Or Die” mantra from a few years back. Ain’t police states a bitch?


62 posted on 06/21/2012 7:59:54 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (64% of Americans support amnesty and find the Wet DREAM Act "a big hit!" - New Bloomberg Poll)
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To: ColdOne

Obamaland......


63 posted on 06/21/2012 8:10:38 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: ColdOne
They are definitely losing it.
64 posted on 06/21/2012 8:13:42 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Criminaliens or Crimigrants...0bamao's people? Answer: Evidently yes.)
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To: andy58-in-nh; EQAndyBuzz
Yes, but most of those counties are sparsely populated

Indeed. Illinois governor Quinn was elected, carrying only two counties in the entire state. His opponent carried the other 103.

65 posted on 06/21/2012 8:15:12 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Come quickly Lord Jesus.)
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To: workerbee

You have to register before they know you exist. Once registered you are required to keep your address updated.

On Election day you turn up at your local polling place and show ID, and the poll worker crosses your name out of a big book and gives you a ballot.

At the end of the day, anyone whose name has not been crossed out gets a $20 fine, unless they can give a reason they didn’t vote.

It leads to comedy pieces like this, from a program called The Chaser. (Language Warning.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaQJj1BQUiU


66 posted on 06/21/2012 8:15:26 PM PDT by B.Lyle
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To: Stosh

More not free on that list than free. I see Australia, Malta, Greece and Bahamas as the only ones whose election integrity is worth anything. The rest are fully corrupt.


67 posted on 06/21/2012 8:16:34 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: ColdOne

The people in Iraq under Saddam were forced to vote. Old Saddam use to get 99% of the vote. That’s what dems want here. It’s totalitarian to FORCE people to vote. The left knows that - and they don’t care.

One way people vote is with their feet. They don’t bother to vote if parties bring forth endless losers. NOT voting is a way for citizens to let the big fat ego types know they have to do better. It’s a friggin message. Read it liberals.

The reason dems want names o n voter roles is they vote people who don’t show up. (voting the dead is an accidental by product of voting the people who don’t show ) If it’s against the law to stay home on election day, the person staying home is NOT going to object to some democrat ‘voting for them’.

Democrats cheat - that’s what this is about. Democrats are also control freaks. That’s what this is about too...

Sad the ‘doting court eunuchs’ of the MSM fail to notice...


68 posted on 06/21/2012 8:28:57 PM PDT by GOPJ (The 'doting court eunuchs' of the MSM fail to notice...)
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To: ColdOne
Obama, the Godfather:

Either your signature or your brains will be on that Ballot.

69 posted on 06/21/2012 8:33:45 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
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To: ColdOne

I guess they’re disappointed that there was no bump for them after Obama made Amnesty the law of the land.


70 posted on 06/21/2012 8:38:21 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Should Obama recuse himself from making any decisions on immigration?)
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To: ColdOne
Orszag must have just cornered the Purple Dye Industry.
71 posted on 06/21/2012 8:40:41 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
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To: tsowellfan
I guess they’re disappointed that there was no bump for them after Obama made Amnesty the law of the land.

Does this remind you of that cartoon clip of Bullwinkle the Moose pulling one thing after another out of a magician's top hat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRW7pITY5Cg

72 posted on 06/21/2012 8:42:28 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: muir_redwoods
Okay, Mr. Orzag, just for fun, please point to the part of the constitution that allows for mandatory voting.

Why, it is clearly there if you're one of the enlightened ones, basically a RAT bastard socialist liberal demoRAT. /s

Right alongside of the penumbras & emanations (wisps & vapors) of the Consitution that Harry Blackmun found to legalize abortion in Roe vs Wade, as a guaranteed constitutional RIGHT for a woman to kill her baby while in the womb (but sometimes outside the womb as well, if the baby somehow survived the abortion).

73 posted on 06/21/2012 8:57:30 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: ColdOne
If the United States prides itself as a Beacon of Freedom, then that means people have the freedom NOT to vote if they don't want to. Nobody is prohibited from voting as long as they meet the limited requirements so, by that same token, nobody can be forced to exercise that right either.

I have the right to buy cigarettes and alcohol, and the government gains tax revenues when I do, but can they FORCE me to buy those things? I have the right to own and operate a car. The government gains tax revenues if I want to drive that car - sales taxes, licenses, registration fees, insurance, fuel, etc., but should they be allowed to FORCE me to drive or own a car? I could go on...but just like the health insurance mandate before the USSC right now, there MUST be limits on the powers of government. ESPECIALLY this current administration!

Whatever they can do to advance their socialist agenda until January 21, 2013, when the new administration is sworn in, they will do and, once they do it, it may be almost impossible to back it out. Obama is in "death by a thousand cuts" mode right now because he knows his days are shortened and the end is near for him. If he is NOT stopped at every one of these points, we will need decades, if ever, to undo his damage.

74 posted on 06/21/2012 9:20:49 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: cookcounty
Chances of this happening are between slim and none.

And "slim" is leaving town January, 2013!

75 posted on 06/21/2012 9:24:04 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Kudsman

Most people who don’t vote don’t have a clue about whats going on in the country and what the various people to stand for.

Frankly its a good thing they dont vote as if they did they be voting blind. Odds are their vote would go to who evers name sounded most famalure.


76 posted on 06/21/2012 9:27:24 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: ColdOne

Looks like Orzag’s head is still stuck up Obama’s butt. Better get a winch and a tow truck to get it out before he suffers more brain damage.


77 posted on 06/21/2012 9:48:36 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: ColdOne

I’d **hate** to see a rumor go around that police, sheriffs and other law enforcement will be near polling places to locate those voters with outstanding warrants, fake IDs, child support orders, welfare fraud, illegal aliens, wage garnishments, bounties and such like. That’d be a hateful rumor to start and I hope nobody gets it going, since that’d surpress the vote, especially amongst certain ethnic groups....


78 posted on 06/21/2012 10:25:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: ColdOne

Comrade, Stop by your local voting station and sign in. For your convenience, we have filled out your ballot. Thank you for your cooperation.....

/s


79 posted on 06/21/2012 10:41:23 PM PDT by ssschev (Pick up the can, throw out the trash.)
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To: ColdOne
That's waaay too much trouble. How about we just automatically count everyone that's on any kind of government assistance as a vote for Obama. That way they don't have to bother dragging them to the polls, stuffing ballot boxes, or digging up dead voters. /s

And this nutjob was head of the OMB? Sheesh, we're in trouble.

80 posted on 06/21/2012 11:03:17 PM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: Libloather
LOVE that cartoon! Perfect.

I saw this headline and thought: Is this for real? Now these Obozo commies want to impose mandatory (aka "forced") voting? In the U.S.??

November 6th can't come soon enough...

81 posted on 06/21/2012 11:23:58 PM PDT by nutmeg (I'm with Sarah Palin: Anybody But Obama 2012)
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To: ColdOne

Hell why not! Then the IRS can also penalize us for not voting!


82 posted on 06/21/2012 11:40:08 PM PDT by QT3.14 (USA: Likely only country in history with laws and policies that ensure self-destruction!)
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To: glock rocks
Citizen taxpayers must vote!

What happened to Male Land Owners only

83 posted on 06/21/2012 11:42:16 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: ColdOne

They also vote who only stay at home and watch TV. They’re saying “I don’t give a s@#$.” Why force them to make a statement favoring either candidate, when they in fact are making a statement that they both suck too much to be bothered with. This proposal is anti-democratic blather.


84 posted on 06/21/2012 11:49:04 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: bgill

Post of the day.


85 posted on 06/21/2012 11:50:13 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: ColdOne

Well, you lose the choice to choose no one so collusion runs amok as certain special interests get their way whether you choose a or b.


86 posted on 06/22/2012 12:12:23 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Uncle Ike

“While ‘patriotic’ music blares from loudspeakers....”

To the tune of ‘The Internationale’


87 posted on 06/22/2012 12:51:45 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: ColdOne
As William Galston of the Brookings Institution argues, “Jury duty is mandatory; why not voting?”

I'm sure our learned colleague Herr Galston realizes that most localities take their Jury call lists from the voter registration rolls.....kinda chicken or egg, isn't it?

88 posted on 06/22/2012 1:13:26 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: stockpirate

A Constititutional Republic, to be specific.....


89 posted on 06/22/2012 1:14:56 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: bgill

The last time I heard something about him ‘voting’ the number “ voted PRESENT 134 times” sticks out in my memory.

Obama once explained that “voting PRESENT was my way of saying I was open to working with other legislators on issues”....what he really meant was “I’m open for bribes.”


90 posted on 06/22/2012 1:18:00 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ColdOne

I have multiple personalities that will need to vote too.

188 million of them.


91 posted on 06/22/2012 2:58:56 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm STILL supporting Newt.)
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To: Stosh
Madison - 119%
92 posted on 06/22/2012 3:05:51 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: ColdOne

This is COMMUNIST.


93 posted on 06/22/2012 3:12:23 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: ColdOne

Planting the seeds of a second American revolution.


94 posted on 06/22/2012 3:14:57 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: jocon307

“Sorry, Ann Althouse has this right the other day, we also have a right NOT to vote.”

It’s not just that. People have to fight for their right to vote. If people are too lazy to get up and vote on their own then they have no business deciding the future of our country.


95 posted on 06/22/2012 3:15:13 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: B.Lyle

Oh the urge to not pay the fine and wait for them to come...


96 posted on 06/22/2012 3:17:12 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: ColdOne

When a govt. institutes forced voting it’s not long before there is only one candidate on the ballot.


97 posted on 06/22/2012 3:25:08 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: ColdOne

It would be a logistical nightmare trying to force everyone to the polls.

I was thinking that mandatory voting would make it harder to fix the elections, since it wouldn’t be possible to look at the voter rolls late in the day and supply votes for those who didn’t show up. However, with mandatory voting—there actually would be *more* of an incentive to supply votes for those who didn’t show.

Nope, voluntary voting with mandatory ID check is the only way to go. People who must vote absentee (e.g. military) should have some mechanism to be able to verify their identity on the absentee ballot.


98 posted on 06/22/2012 3:59:52 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: ColdOne

It would be a logistical nightmare trying to force everyone to the polls.

I was thinking that mandatory voting would make it harder to fix the elections, since it wouldn’t be possible to look at the voter rolls late in the day and supply votes for those who didn’t show up. However, with mandatory voting—there actually would be *more* of an incentive to supply votes for those who didn’t show.

Nope, voluntary voting with mandatory ID check is the only way to go. People who must vote absentee (e.g. military) should have some mechanism to be able to verify their identity on the absentee ballot.


99 posted on 06/22/2012 4:00:09 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: ColdOne

Why do liberals demand all people must vote, but then ridicule the Tea Party for the idea of voting to change the system?


100 posted on 06/22/2012 4:15:32 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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