Posted on 06/22/2012 8:48:35 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
It is within the bounds of “open” Religion Forum town square style debate for a Freeper to express his hatred of a belief. But such posts are never allowed on RF threads labeled “prayer” “devotional” “caucus” or “ecumenical.”
It is never within the bounds on the Religion Forum for a Freeper to express his hatred of people who hold a particular belief when any Freeper is part of the belief group.
For example:
It is ok to express hatred towards CatholicISM on “open” Religion Forum threads. It is never ok to express hatred towards Catholics because some Freepers are Catholic.
It is ok to express hatred towards ProtestantISM on “open” Religion Forum threads. It is never ok to express hatred towards Protestants because some Freepers are Protestant.
It is ok to express hatred towards SatanISM and Satanists both because no Freeper is Satanist.
Some political posters are now venturing onto the Religion Forum probably because Romney’s beliefs are at issue in this election.
If you do not wish to see RF posts, do NOT use the "everything" option on the Free Republic browse option list. Instead, browse by "News/Activism." When you log back in, the browse will reset to "everything" - so be sure to set it back to "News/Activism."
Finally, whereas posters may argue vigorously for and against beliefs on “open” Religion Forum threads it is never tolerable to use ad hominems in religious debate because they invariably lead to flame wars when the subject is one’s deeply held religious beliefs.
For something to be "making it personal" it must be speaking to another Freeper, personally.
"Protestants are heretics" is not making it personal. "You are a heretic" is making it personal. "Catholics worship Mary" is not making it personal. "You worship Mary" is making it personal. "Mormons worship many gods" is not making it personal. "You worship many gods" is making it personal.
However, when a poster paints with a brush that accuses an entire religion of criminal behavior - his post will be pulled as flame bait. For example, posts that say "Protestants kill babies" or "Catholics molest children" or "Mormons kill non-Mormons" will be pulled. However, if the post is specific about a non-Freeper, I will not pull it. For example "Rev. Doe says abortion and infanticide are not sin" or "Father Doe was convicted for molesting those kids" or "Mormons killed non-Mormons at Mountain Meadows" would not be pulled.
Statements formed as questions are rarely "making it personal."
"Are you a heretic" is not making it personal. "You are a heretic" is making it personal.
Forms of "making it personal" include mind reading, attributing motive, accusing another Freeper of telling a lie (because it attributes motive, the intent to deceive) - making the thread "about" individual Freeper(s), following a Freeper from thread to thread and badgering a Freeper over-and-again with the same question.
When in doubt, avoid the use of the pronoun "you" and Freeper's names - or put yourself in the other guy's shoes.
Despite all these efforts to eliminate ad hominems, there is nothing I can do to keep you from "taking it personally."
If you keep getting your feelings hurt because other posters ridicule or disapprove or hate what you hold dear, then you are too thin-skinned to be involved in “open” RF debate. You should IGNORE “open” RF threads altogether and instead post to RF threads labeled “prayer” “devotional” “caucus” or “ecumenical.”
"Your argument that doctrine does not matter is of the devil."
Reading my posts in context, my statements were doctrine is secondary to ones faith and honesty in living up to what light one has. Not everyone has been as well versed in scripture as another. They may have been raised in a doctrinally-challenged church. Doctrine is not the most important to God otherwise Jesus would not have said "But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." Understand that and you will understand me.
I am sure anything you read is in capital letters, to the core and emphatic.
I stand by my earlier comment, and by dozens materials on Islam written by Muslims and available instantly.
This thread has been moved to “News/Activism.” If it were still in the Religion Forum, posts 220 and 223 would be removed for language.
Reading my posts in context, my statements were doctrine is secondary to ones faith and honesty in living up to what light one has.
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Non essential doctrines perhaps, but a false God and a false Christ cannot save.
Doctrine in the essentials is primary, because you can have faith in aliens and it won’t make you a Christian.
In post #228 did DOCTRINE save the servant or faith? Did Jesus ask what denomination the centurion was or his servant? Is God a Catholic, Mormon, LDS or a Methodist? Will Heaven be divided by doctrine and/or denominations?
I’m sure that you could. So could I, but there is only one that I am currently irritated at.
The RM is a masochist.
Part of the job description...”...must like pain and suffering to take on this volunteer position.”
JR is the one who indulges them.
Seriously though, you do as good a job as can be expected for a volunteer and from my chair, you are alright!
SZ
I disagree.
And it’s a fact, not an opinion, that due to information presented here on FR, I was compelled to abandon mormonism completely and become a Christian.
I was in the throes of returning to mormonism due to my family after going inactive for some years. The information presented on threads here was quite informative and revealing.
Besides, not all of us have had the benefit of growing up in homes that are spiritually strong, nor do we come from backgrounds that enable strong spirituality.
What works for one doesn’t always work for another. What comes “easy” to some, is a constant effort and work for others.
JMO
>>Otherwise, your post is just another in a long series of “backhanded” jabs at posters, through thinly veiled innuendo.<<
None of it is “thinly veiled” but rather open and on display. None of it is a jab at “posters”. It is a direct evaluation of the mob mentality. Mobs are never helpful.
This obsession of clinical evaluation ie “mob mentality” is interesting.
Was this your dissertation for graduating from psychology class?
SZonian, good post and testimony.
Your statements were right on.
This thread has attracted some who have a very superficial understanding (if at all) of spiritual matters.
So they shoot down their straw men.
*yawn*
Read “The Crucible” then we’ll talk.
Respond (if you wish) after a nap, you appear tired.
Respond (if you wish) after a nap, you appear tired.
You appear blocked.
Have the last word. I won’t see it.
Oh how I love Killfile!
Thank you.
Oh yes you will.
You seem to have FR confused with other sites you like to peruse (anit-FR), they have the bozo filter.
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