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Mpls. Man: Police Beat Me For Gun, Despite My Permit(MN)
cbslocal.com ^ | 23 June, 2012 | NA

Posted on 06/26/2012 7:45:13 AM PDT by marktwain

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) - A Minneapolis man says he was beaten by police as he left a downtown nightclub.

Zachary King says he was walking to his car when police noticed his gun in his waist band. He claims he told police he had a permit to carry, but they still attacked him.

King suffered a concussion after five officers beat him on Father’s Day night. King says video of the assault was taken by a bystander. He says it all started when police noticed a bulge near his waist band.

“I have my conceal and carry, and it’s my gun. And soon as I said that he grabbed me by my neck, slammed me against the wall, snatched my gun out the holster, started waving it in the air saying ‘gun, gun, gun,’” said King.

King says he made no sudden moves, nor said anything disrespectful.

“Then four other officers just came and slammed me on my face, one of the officers had me by my head just banging it on the sidewalk,” he said.

King says officers eventually went for his back pocket and his wallet to get his weapons permit.

“And he goes like this to show them that I have my card and they stopped beating me,” said King.

King was then taken to the hospital before his last stop, jail.

King’s attorney, Mike Patton, says his client was arrested, jailed and not charged for recording police back in April that allegedly showed abuse of power.

“He has zero criminal record, zero,” said Mike Patton.

He was also acquitted of manslaughter in 2008 after his pit bull mauled to death his 7-year-old son.

“It takes a lot of courage to come forward in this type of situation. He doesn’t want to see this happen to other people,” said Patton.

Patton says police had no probable cause to do anything to his client.

He says he is working with internal affairs and hopes that street video from Minneapolis Police cameras will back up his clients claim.

We reached out to Minneapolis Police for comment on King’s accusations. Police say because there is an open civilian review authority investigation, and they cannot comment.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
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"King’s attorney, Mike Patton, says his client was arrested, jailed and not charged for recording police back in April that allegedly showed abuse of power."

Could police want to "make an example" of him?

1 posted on 06/26/2012 7:45:20 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Welcome to the USSA, comrades. The Police are ALWAYS right.


2 posted on 06/26/2012 7:51:18 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain

Man this guy is living a tough life...
- His dog kills his kid. How horrible!
- Thrown in jail for recording apparent police abuse activity
- Police beat him up for no apparent reason and then take him to jail
Police in these large cities have some serious issues. We continue to see corruption and screwed up morals and abuse. And that is just normal LE types. Don’t even begin to look at the special weapons, assault, hostage and other teams etc.


3 posted on 06/26/2012 7:53:38 AM PDT by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: marktwain

I live in Minneapolis. I am a white middle-class professional - and I fear the Minneapolis Police.

They have a reputation for corruption and thuggery that can rival amost any other law enforcement agency in the US.

A story like this does not surprise me in the least.


4 posted on 06/26/2012 7:53:52 AM PDT by MplsSteve (General Mills is pro-gay marriage! Boycott their products!)
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To: marktwain

“as he left a downtown nightclub”

Even I know this is a no-no, unless they make over half their income from serving food.


5 posted on 06/26/2012 7:54:09 AM PDT by pingman ("Human history seems logical in afterthought, but a mystery in forethought." (Strauss & Howe))
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To: marktwain
He was also acquitted of manslaughter in 2008 after his pit bull mauled to death his 7-year-old son.

Current circumstances not withstanding, OMG!

How do you live with yourself after that? I can't imagine the guilt the guy must live with but would be interested to learn more of his life circumstances.

6 posted on 06/26/2012 7:54:39 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: marktwain
We are rapidly becoming a police state as this instance shows.

There should be no law that makes it illegal to record police activities.

Seems like obvious retaliation to me.

7 posted on 06/26/2012 7:56:09 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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8 posted on 06/26/2012 7:56:43 AM PDT by MplsSteve (General Mills is pro-gay marriage! Boycott their products!)
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To: marktwain

The roll of the police should always be suspect for it is a very fine line between keeper of the peace and representative of the oppressor and power is a powerful corrupter.

The less power the police have, the more individual responsibility is required. This rule explains the omnipotents of the police in the land of the left.


9 posted on 06/26/2012 7:58:24 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: marktwain
Two questions come to mind: Why would someone carry a firearm into a nightclub, and why would he allow it to be visible?

I ask this as someone who has had a CCW for about 30 years and worked private security including being certified to teach the MegaBill class in NYS

10 posted on 06/26/2012 7:59:53 AM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader believes in home schooling....Think about it.)
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To: marktwain

I’m betting the cops didn’t “see” anything.
Most CCW holders understand that “concealed” means CONCEALED!

This guy has been marked for harrassment.

Don’t ask what I’d do in his situation....


11 posted on 06/26/2012 8:00:00 AM PDT by G Larry (There's no hope of a safe landing when you hire a suicidal pilot!)
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To: Travis McGee
>"Welcome to the USSA, comrades. The Police are ALWAYS right."

The fruits of prohibition are starting to ripen.

First they came for the herb users, and I said nothing.

12 posted on 06/26/2012 8:00:31 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: pingman
Even I know this is a no-no, unless they make over half their income from serving food.

What's a "no-no"? I don't know the laws in Minneapolis. Do you? Or are you commenting on your opinion of judgment? I didn't see anywhere in the story where the police found the victim to be intoxicated. And I am pretty confident they would have tried to find something to implicate criminal activity following the initial event.

Please enlighten me. I am licensed and do carry on the rare occasion that I am in an establishment that serves alcohol (perfectly legal).

13 posted on 06/26/2012 8:01:00 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: marktwain

Something seems very weird about this.
A guy walking down the street and police just randomly beat him up, because they may have seen his gun.
hum?
Did they tell him to stop?
Did they tell him to explain?
Was he belligerent, defiant?
There is something missing from this story.


14 posted on 06/26/2012 8:06:41 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: MplsSteve
There are some areas of the country where the "bad guys" with whom the police deal on a daily basis justifiably engenders a more "hard-boiled" type of cop on the beat. It is not only inevitable, it is also a necessary evolution for the cops to be able to deal with the hurdles they face.

The other side of that coin, however, is that if and when the police decide to adopt that "Harry Callahan" style of LE (two letter acronym for "Law Enforcement"), they no longer have any reasonable expectation of maintaining the respect or support from the general community that other more constrained Departments might expect and receive.

They can also expect to be videoed regularly, distrusted mightily, and scrutinized minutely with no slack afforded by the law-abiding citizens who live under the threat of neo-rogue policemanship.

Suck it up. You make your choices, and you accept what naturally flows from them. As the mob often says, "We got no right to complain. It's the life (we chose)."

;-\

15 posted on 06/26/2012 8:09:11 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Barack O'Bunga--America's first gay president...")
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To: G Larry; verga
"He says it all started when police noticed a bulge near his waist band"

I suspect that the police recognized him from the recording incident, actively looked for a "bulge" and then decided to beat him.

In a state with Shall Issue CCW, the presumption should be that somebody carrying concealed has a permit, and does not excuse this conduct.

16 posted on 06/26/2012 8:09:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Tenacious 1

I have no knowledge of MN laws. I do know that in TEXAS (800 miles from MN) the law states that CCW permit holder is not allowed to carry into an establishment whose primary business involves alcohol (51% or more). That might be the reference.


17 posted on 06/26/2012 8:10:35 AM PDT by tpmintx (Problem: The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: verga

“why would he allow it to be visible?”

It wasn’t. They noticed a “buldge” in his pants.


18 posted on 06/26/2012 8:11:48 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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To: pingman; All
“as he left a downtown nightclub”

Even I know this is a no-no, unless they make over half their income from serving food.

It depends on the state. I do not think Minnesota bans carry in establishments that serve alcohol. Most states do not do so, though some do have the limitation that you note.

19 posted on 06/26/2012 8:11:56 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Tenacious 1

Perhaps they do things differently in MN than in the uptight northeast, but carrying in a bar has always been a no-no as long as I have been permitted. Great way to get face-slammed into the tarmac.


20 posted on 06/26/2012 8:13:54 AM PDT by pingman ("Human history seems logical in afterthought, but a mystery in forethought." (Strauss & Howe))
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To: tpmintx

Does the TX law also require those establishments to allow firearms to be checked in somewhere? Indiana does.

If you go to a casino (boats) in Indiana, you are required to “check-in” your weapon at no charge. You go to a window, unload and present your firearm and are given a receipt. Upon pick-up of the firearm, you are required to show your license.


21 posted on 06/26/2012 8:18:13 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: MplsSteve

Reading the headline, I thought the police wanted his gun and were trying to steal it!......................


22 posted on 06/26/2012 8:19:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
They noticed a “buldge” in his pants.

They must have been gay cops.................

23 posted on 06/26/2012 8:23:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: PapaBear3625
The key phrase is "He says."

There are three sides to every story: Your side, my side, and the truth. Before coming to a conclusion I want to hear the police side.

I also really have to question the judgment of someone that as I said takes a firearm into a night club and has it visible in any way.

24 posted on 06/26/2012 8:25:04 AM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader believes in home schooling....Think about it.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
It wasn’t. They noticed a “buldge” in his pants.

See my post #24

25 posted on 06/26/2012 8:27:02 AM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader believes in home schooling....Think about it.)
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To: verga

Are you kidding me? Cops shot a white guy in cold blood in front of a Wal-Mart because he was carrying a legal firearm, so the fact that this black guy survived his encounter with the police is kind of amazing. There’s nothing else unusual or surprising about this story, cops have been harassing and assaulting law-abiding CCW holders for decades.


26 posted on 06/26/2012 8:29:02 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: tpmintx

That is not the law in Minnesota. The restriction is on the alcohol in the system, not mere presence at a bar.


27 posted on 06/26/2012 8:30:16 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: marktwain

The same Minneapolis police have virtually ignored recent attacks by gangs of Black youth on a whites near downtown Minneapolis.


28 posted on 06/26/2012 8:35:46 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: pingman

Why is it a ticket to get slammed? Shouldn’t the officers need to be called to the establishment? Let alone just give the guy a ticket and he can go to court to fight it. But why should anyone get slammed to the ground because they are CCW?


29 posted on 06/26/2012 8:37:52 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: svcw

I agree, I don’t buy this story


30 posted on 06/26/2012 8:40:03 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: marktwain

The guy is black. Since it doesn’t point out that the cops are white I can only assume the cops are black so it’s not racist. That means it’s nothing but police retribution for video taping them.


31 posted on 06/26/2012 8:47:55 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: marktwain

It is frightening that law enforcement is getting more and more aggressive with citizens.

Raiding wrong homes and pointing weapons at the heads of innocent occupants/kids.

Taped beatings of suspects in handcuffs, police shooting innocent civilians with concealed carry.

Little worse than official oppression by those entrusted to protect and serve.


32 posted on 06/26/2012 8:53:34 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Java4Jay
I agree, I don’t buy this story.

I don't see what you find hard to believe about it. A YouTube search will show you hundreds of videos of cops assaulting people for no reason, sometimes for something as simple as holding a video camera.

And experience has demonstrated that many cops hate CCW, even in places that have had a licensing system in place for decades, so how much more would they hate it after being handed a defeat with a new CCW licensing system that they fought against? How angry do you think they'd be that a black man - the very reason why carry and gun licensing systems and bans were originally created in the first place - could legally carry a gun? Especially a black man who had previously filmed them breaking the law?

So what do you find hard to believe?

33 posted on 06/26/2012 8:54:33 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Terry Mross

I cant believe you all missed this. His last name is King! If you are black and your last name is King -well it is just your Karma that you are going to be beat up by the police!


34 posted on 06/26/2012 8:59:12 AM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: Red Badger

35 posted on 06/26/2012 9:02:18 AM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

I’m not saying it’s right.


36 posted on 06/26/2012 9:03:27 AM PDT by pingman ("Human history seems logical in afterthought, but a mystery in forethought." (Strauss & Howe))
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To: tumblindice

i do now.


37 posted on 06/26/2012 9:12:35 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: servantboy777

38 posted on 06/26/2012 9:48:39 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: marktwain

Source: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/its-my-gun-minn-man-beaten-arrested-for-reportedly-carrying-handgun-despite-having-concealed-carry-permit/
39 posted on 06/26/2012 9:49:21 AM PDT by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: Tenacious 1
Does the TX law also require those establishments to allow firearms to be checked in somewhere?

Texas does not account for checking in firearms. Generally, it's "leave it in your car" or "leave it at home if you plan on drinking."

40 posted on 06/26/2012 10:12:28 AM PDT by tpmintx (Problem: The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: verga
The bulge could have been anything, including a cellphone, a medically necessary device (my son has one such device), a work related device. There are several things that people put on their waist.
41 posted on 06/29/2012 6:00:25 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell
As I said before "He says....", we don't know the truth because none of us were there.

Look at how NBC "edited" the George Zimmerman tapes and his photographs.

42 posted on 06/29/2012 6:38:56 AM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader believes in home schooling....Think about it.)
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To: verga
The key phrase is "He says."

There are three sides to every story: Your side, my side, and the truth. Before coming to a conclusion I want to hear the police side.

I also really have to question the judgment of someone that as I said takes a firearm into a night club and has it visible in any way.

So, let's get this straight...

You refuse to believe this "side" because there are 3 sides to every story, and we weren't there...

...but you are willing to accuse the man of making his firearm "visible in any way" though he says it wasn't "visible" but that there was a "bulge" ...and we weren't there to see for ourselves.

interesting.

43 posted on 06/29/2012 9:35:50 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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