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Colorado Springs Fires - 32,000 people have been evacuated
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Posted on 06/26/2012 8:00:18 PM PDT by nuconvert

This is the Waldo Canyon fire. Winds grew to 65mph this afternoon and the fire went over the fire-breaks.

The Air Force Academy and surrounding neighborhood have been evacuated.

Interstare I-25 has been closed north of Colorado SPrings in order to allow local people use the highway to evacuate.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: colorado; coloradosprings; fire; usafa; vanity; waldocanyon; wildfires
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To: svcw

Thanks. The husband is a soldier and they’ve moved closer to the post. I don’t know the area and so am trusting God and their situation awareness.


51 posted on 06/26/2012 8:41:43 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: Strategerist

Well, the fires didn’t need to be this bad. That had man’s hand upon it.

And maybe God could be more angry at a church than at a brothel because the church is abusing its faith while the brothel never had it.


52 posted on 06/26/2012 8:43:20 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: flowergirl

That is horrific..


53 posted on 06/26/2012 8:44:40 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: luv2ski

Oh thanks...Hopefully they get a handle on them soon. The Insurance companies are going to be bankrupt between these fires and the flooding in Florida.


54 posted on 06/26/2012 8:45:32 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: flowergirl

55 posted on 06/26/2012 8:46:27 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Jemian

will be praying


56 posted on 06/26/2012 8:47:40 PM PDT by flowergirl
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To: Linda Frances

Dear Linda- Isaiah 5:20 The Lord God is just- I’m not judging you guys are having fires and we had serious water last August (Irene)


57 posted on 06/26/2012 8:48:55 PM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: nuconvert

My ex-wife’s neighborhood is being evacuated so she is at my house. Also here are my daughter, her hubby and four kids. We’ve got ash falling on Fort Carson and the smell is pretty bad outside.


58 posted on 06/26/2012 8:49:13 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: napscoordinator

Insurance firms today deal with the potential for these large regional catastrophes by selling what they call “cat bonds.” While normally the bonds gain value as the insurance firm accrues profits, a catastrophe vacuums them out for a certain number of years.


59 posted on 06/26/2012 8:49:13 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: raccoonnookkeeper
Unwise conduct brings about its own punishment. Hail happens no matter what people do, but wildfires are worse because of supposed green forest management policies.

"I passed through South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, Washington, Oregon, and Idaho by train. Among the valleys, with mountains on every side, during all that trip a mountain was never seen. This was because the fires in the mountains created such a smoke that the whole country was enveloped by it ... "

-- Major John Wesley Powell, 1889

Were there bad Green forest management policies in the West in the 1800s?

Bad stuff happens that has nothing to do with humans. Interestingly both the extremely religious and the extreme left/radical environmentalists have trouble with this concept.

The Haitian earthquake, Hurricane Katrina, and these fires are perfectly normal results of basic geology, climatology, biology, and physics that have clearly happened repeatedly in the same locations for thousands or millions of years. The people that happened to be near those events, and what they did or didn't believe were irrelevant to whether the event occurs. Obviously assuming thsee events occur, people have some control over how poorly built their houses are or whether they live below sea level, etc.

These events aren't purely random, of course, because they have clearly understood physical causes and a pattern of repeated occurance, but they are essentially random in their effect on humans - people are simply getting in the way.

The problem is it makes people feel better if it's God's punishment or human-caused "Climate change" because it implies it's less random and more controllable, somehow. It also makes people feel better if a fire is arson than if it's caused by lightning, for some reason. We can arrest arsonists, but can't arrest thunderstorms.

It's important for people to think rationally about natural disasters because based on a lot of geological and paleometeorological evidence, we've been lucky for quite a while. Of course, things simply returning to normal will either be blamed on divine punishment, or, if it's a weather-related event, on "Global Warming."

60 posted on 06/26/2012 8:54:02 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Earthdweller

thanks for posting the photo..I didn’t know how to:0
He snapped this as they were leaving the house for the last time( evacuation).. they are a neat family small business folks who had an idea and it has been successful.
been through some hard times already for sure.i just hope there was time to get things/pictures that can’t be replaced. Am praying no lives will be lost.


61 posted on 06/26/2012 8:55:12 PM PDT by flowergirl
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To: rfreedom4u

if anyone wishes to google map the area, the fight is along flying w road and points north


62 posted on 06/26/2012 8:55:23 PM PDT by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: rfreedom4u

nice for you to take them all in...


63 posted on 06/26/2012 8:56:20 PM PDT by flowergirl
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To: nuconvert

Updates here from the Co Springs Gazette: http://www.gazette.com/articles/fire-140851-highway-waldo.html

Fire map here: http://inciweb.org/incident/2929/

The main fire dropped embers quite a ways to the west and started spot fires in neighborhoods. Very dry conditions have made those spread into houses - now it seems to be self-sustaining.

Prayers for all.


64 posted on 06/26/2012 8:58:16 PM PDT by KitJ (Shall not be infringed)
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To: flowergirl

I sure hope that neighborhood doesn’t burn. All I can think about is years of investment and work burning..and the family pictures..horrible. Glad you are safe.


65 posted on 06/26/2012 8:59:29 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Strategerist

Note that you list a bunch of “ologies” in your causes.

Note that an “ology” is a human field of study.


66 posted on 06/26/2012 9:04:05 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: KC Burke

this reminds me of the history channel (?) “it could happen next” or something like that about a wild fire that takes out austin texas.

they just evacuated garden of the gods areas (the park had already been closed). this is surreal.


67 posted on 06/26/2012 9:06:40 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: flowergirl

My prayers are with them! God Bless those local firefighters trying to make the last stand! So very sad! I grew up there :(


68 posted on 06/26/2012 9:08:11 PM PDT by Ros42
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To: nuconvert

placemarker


69 posted on 06/26/2012 9:11:44 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: redlegplanner

Green Mountain falls it a neat little place.

This is very bad.


70 posted on 06/26/2012 9:12:45 PM PDT by unkus
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To: bravo whiskey

The issues of causes will not stay ignored, but the fire fight must be the focus now. The wind from reports is still southeast and houses and structures along with large specimen trees standing exposed in neighborhoods are going to throw large embers higher than ground brush would.

The fight will go all night long. A wind shift or reduction is my hope and prayer. You guys in the Springs are going to have a bad morning I’m afraid.


71 posted on 06/26/2012 9:21:55 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: Earthdweller
That picture, as horrible as it is, does not do proper justice to what is happening there right now.

If any of you saw the disaster epic, “2012” with John Cusack, you will remember a scene where, as they are approaching Hawaii to refuel, all they see is Hawaii on fire.

That is pretty much how north suburban Colorado Springs looks tonight.

I'm not all that far from Flagstaff, so we're keeping an eye on that one. Looks like, right now, it's heading towards Boulder.

CA....

72 posted on 06/26/2012 9:22:26 PM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: unkus

Sister-in-law had a small place in Green Mountain Falls before she died. It is a wonderful area.


73 posted on 06/26/2012 9:24:30 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: Strategerist; Buddygirl
And a bit odd to single out one of the most religious cities in the country, suggesting poor aim.

Buddygirl's comments aside, and what may or may not be a judgment from God aside...

1 Peter 4.17

For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

74 posted on 06/26/2012 9:31:23 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: KC Burke

We’d usually pull into Green Mountain Falls to get a Coke or Iced Tea before getting into the Springs.

Your sister-in-law lived in a great place.


75 posted on 06/26/2012 9:31:57 PM PDT by unkus
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To: nuconvert
How awful.

Living in California, we see this all the time. It's the worse experience you can imagine with a fire storm heading your way. I spent some time fighting wild-fires in my youth. Personally, I'd rather face erratic tornadoes than a wild fire. At least they go away after their devastation and skip over homes and if prepared, you can duck into a ground shelter. Wild fires keep going and going, and once in their line, all homes go up.

BTW, where is Obama on this disaster? Oh right, campaigning for dollars. I remember Bush declaring one of the CA wild fires as a national emergency and sending out FEMA. It was just brush, but burning down lots of homes as is this CO fire.

76 posted on 06/26/2012 9:32:45 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: redlegplanner

Thanks for the insight as to that area. Prayers for you and yours and all in the region.
Disasters like this were slow to be know in prior ages. The biggest and worst fire in Minnesota was largely unreported because it occurred the same day as the Chicago Fire. In the video-electronic-Internet age we have live feeds to Tanning Booth inpropriaties.


77 posted on 06/26/2012 9:36:01 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: Chances Are

I worked in Woodland Park, have family near there, and this is horrible news! My daughter lives in Castle Rock, and she just told me the smoke is unbelievable!

(BTW - you live near Flagstaff? Did you know there is now a fire in Cottonwood?)


78 posted on 06/26/2012 9:37:12 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: Jemian

Prayers for your daughter, husband and furry kid, and the safe-keeping of their home, Jemian!


79 posted on 06/26/2012 9:41:11 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: yorkie

Please water down your city out there too. It is my favorite place on the planet.


80 posted on 06/26/2012 9:41:11 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: nuconvert
Unlike some here where if this were CA, would wish for the worst...I wish everyone in CO the best of luck, and hope they all get through this alright.

I've seen wild fires where it appears to be the end of the world for those in the path..

My thoughts and hopes go to those in the CO fire danger areas.

81 posted on 06/26/2012 9:41:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: A Navy Vet

“BTW, where is Obama on this disaster?”

Yep, Barry was in Boston at a black-tie campaign fundraiser banquet. He made some funny remarks about the Red Sox, seemingly without a care in the world. No mention of epic fires. There should have been more air tankers put into place four days ago, but Barry has better things to worry about. Totally asleep at the wheel...


82 posted on 06/26/2012 9:42:15 PM PDT by purplelobster
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To: KC Burke

I live in Sedona, and we have been having dry lightening all afternoon and evening. I am very leary - as I have many trees - and everything is SO dry!


83 posted on 06/26/2012 9:45:27 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: purplelobster

same thing he did when texas (conservative) burned and memphis (conservative) drowned...hmm a bit of a pattern?


84 posted on 06/26/2012 9:45:44 PM PDT by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: Linda Frances

I hope you can post the picture from Colorado Springs.

To post a photo here, the photo needs to be made available on the internet, i.e. it is first uploaded from your computer to a photo hosting site. The following site has been very easy to use.

You may want to register first at the site to create your own folder there in which to save your photos for free, but you don’t have to. You can just follow the instructions below this link. To post the photo here after uploading it, copy the code in the “HTML for Websites” box and paste that code into a reply on this thread.

http://tinypic.com/

Click “Choose File” (then choose the photo file in a folder on your computer), choose to “Resize” if necessary, click “Upload Now”.

You can first click on “View Full Size Image” under your picture to see how the image will appear (this helps to prevent posting huge images into the FR thread).

Copy the code in the “HTML for Websites” box, and paste that code into a reply on this thread.


85 posted on 06/26/2012 9:46:03 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: yorkie

Oh I remember where you are from. I am so glad you are doing well after the terrible accident you had.

Next time the wife and I are out there we will buy you lunch.


86 posted on 06/26/2012 9:50:45 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: nuconvert

Good live TV coverage
http://www.kktv.com/video/live


87 posted on 06/26/2012 9:53:02 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: KC Burke

Thank you! That is so kind. I am still in Physical Therapy (it’s been almost six months since the accident), and in grief/loss therapy. It’s been a looooooooooong ride, and quite a journey!

FReepmail me when you plan to come to God’s beautiful country. I would be honored to join you for lunch.


88 posted on 06/26/2012 9:56:42 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: deks

Good advice but a simpler route if the picture is already on the web is to right click the picture and then click properties. Copy the full web address listed and paste that he in the reply box then hit preview. If it shows it goes and hit post.

No HTML needed. Easy peasey. (if it isn’t oversized).


89 posted on 06/26/2012 9:57:19 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: nuconvert

I just had a telephone conversation with a Denver friend tonight while I was doing the laundry. She kept coughing, which is not like her. She explained that her cough was due to the fires. Good thing I am not planning my usual Colorado hiking vacation this year, as I would have a hard time with the particulates in the air from the smoke. As far as I know, Denver is nowhere really close to any of the fires and she’s still coughing.

I recommended she get an indoor air purifier, as she’s not a spring chicken any more. Does anyone have a brand they could particularly recommend?


90 posted on 06/26/2012 9:57:58 PM PDT by EinNYC
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Here’s another live video feed from KRDO, Colorado Springs. . .

http://www.krdo.com/news/WATCH-LIVE-KRDO-NewsChannel-13/-/417220/14776454/-/12eydmxz/-/index.html


91 posted on 06/26/2012 10:10:20 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: EinNYC

Your friend is probably breathing some smoke from the Boulder fire. The winds are coming from the north.


92 posted on 06/26/2012 10:14:46 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Jemian

we will pray....coming home tonight, after another very rainy day here in eastern Washington, the temp was 48 degrees, so I can’t imagine the dry, hot conditions down there...


93 posted on 06/26/2012 10:20:00 PM PDT by cherry
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To: yorkie

Cottonwood?
We are supposed to be in Sedona in three days.
My daughter’s man friend and kids live in the area of the Air Force Academy, they just evacuated. He texted me, as they drove away it appears the house is burning, his sister had just evacuated to his house her house was gone.
In California we are used to this, however it does not in anyway take away what Colorado and now Arizona are going through.


94 posted on 06/26/2012 10:36:11 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: yorkie
"I live in Sedona, and we have been having dry lightening all afternoon and evening. I am very leary - as I have many trees - and everything is SO dry!"

While I don't mean to minimize the wild fires in Colorado, if Sedona were to go up in flames, it would be a national loss. It would be the same as if the peaks in Monument Valley (Utah) fell, or if Half Dome fell into the Yosemite valley. Sedona is the only place like it on the planet, IMHO. Without its greenery to contrast its red rock, it would not be the same.

Best to you in Sedona, and best to all in Colorado. What a beautiful State CO is.

95 posted on 06/26/2012 10:42:07 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: KC Burke

DH and son just met up with 86 yo father in law who finally agreed to leave. He is not in mandatory zone but surrounded by it on 3 sides by less than a block. They said traffic not too bad but nw Colorado springs eerily deserted. Can’t see much flame right now as smoke close to the ground. Thank God that grandpa agreed to spend some time with us in Denver and we were able to get him out of his neighborhood reasonably easily. Scary situation. Watching the live feed I was thinking this must be what London an d other cities looked like in the firestorms of WW2. The people near these fires need our prayers big time. I will be surprised if there is no loss of life


96 posted on 06/26/2012 10:57:43 PM PDT by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: nuconvert

You can watch live coverage at www.9news.com. Click on the live streaming video


97 posted on 06/26/2012 10:58:55 PM PDT by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: A Navy Vet; Interesting Times; Jim Robinson
I've been tracking the fires tonight and they are incredible:

Here are some links for Freepers to examine:

Colorado Wild Fires

Waldo Canyon Fire

This is amazing. The Temp has dropped 30+ degrees in the last 90 minutes. The weather forecast has changed while I was watching with rain now predicted throughout the I-25 Corridor tomorrow! Praise God!

TS

98 posted on 06/26/2012 11:07:45 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: Mom MD
It's just passed midnight and the fires are still burning out of control. It looks like a war zone.

The weather/wind forecast for tomorrow is not promising.

99 posted on 06/26/2012 11:08:15 PM PDT by Taylor42
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To: The Shrew
This was reported on Channel 9 KUSA Denver
100 posted on 06/26/2012 11:10:59 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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