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Racine Senate recount could wind up in court
JS ONLINE ^ | 6-27-12 | Alison Bauter

Posted on 06/27/2012 12:56:10 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

Madison - The odds of Racine's recall recount winding up in court increased Tuesday, as Republican Sen. Van Wanggaard's campaign said it may challenge canvassers' decision to accept ballots from voters who did not sign the poll book.

The recount is in its second week after Wanggaard's campaign requested canvassers review an 834-vote victory that favored Democratic challenger John Lehman in the June 5 recall.

Republicans' latest contention of voting irregularities in Racine targets election workers who failed to ask voters to sign poll books as required by state law. The Wanggaard campaign also disputes the Government Accountability Board's recommendation that canvassers accept the votes.

Once canvassers certify the recall, the campaign could challenge the recount in court, potentially delaying Democratic control of the state Senate for weeks. The results of the recount will determine whether Republicans keep the majority or if Democrats take control of the Senate between now and the November general election.

Since 2011, a new voting law requires that poll workers have voters sign a poll book.

Accountability Board spokesman Reid Magney said although failing to have voters sign the poll book is a mistake, it does not invalidate a person's vote. Moreover, it is impossible to know which ballot was cast by any voter who did not sign, which will create a hurdle to any potential court challenge.

"Invalidating ballots based on the failure to require a signature would disenfranchise a voter due to an election official's error," Magney said.

The Wanggaard campaign contends the Accountability Board has no basis for its recommendation.

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Strasburg said Tuesday that Wanggaard campaign is "waiting for the process to work itself out," and will decide whether to file a challenge once the canvassing process concludes ...

Unless canvassers request an extension, the recount [will] conclude by July 2.

(Excerpt) Read more at jsonline.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: lehman; recall; recount; wanggaard; wisconsin

Van Wanggaard

John Lehman

1 posted on 06/27/2012 12:56:26 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

Wisconsin: Update on Wanggaard recount

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wiscosnin interest ping list.

The control of the Wisconsin State Senate and all its committees rides on this race.


2 posted on 06/27/2012 12:58:30 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Lehman has that ‘commie’ look...


3 posted on 06/27/2012 12:58:31 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Since 2011, a new voting law requires that poll workers have voters sign a poll book.

Seems pretty clear cut to me.
4 posted on 06/27/2012 12:59:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"Since 2011, a new voting law requires that poll workers have voters sign a poll book."

Or what? A law without consequences is meaningless. It sounds like the election officials have just said "Oh, never mind."

5 posted on 06/27/2012 1:05:22 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: who knows what evil?

“Lehman has that ‘commie’ look...”

Nah He has that young Adolph look....


6 posted on 06/27/2012 1:05:28 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: cripplecreek

In all fairness, the signature provision is relatively new. Not all poll workers are familiar with it. The confusion happened with new registrations. Seems to me that they should halt registrations at the polls. I think Racine had about 4000 on election day. That is where the problem lies.


7 posted on 06/27/2012 1:07:15 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: cripplecreek

There seems to be NO problem with the fact that being unwilling to disenfranchise an “illegal” voter just happens to effectively disenfranchise a LEGAL voter, especially among the holders of a certain political view. Curious, isn’t it?


8 posted on 06/27/2012 1:09:27 PM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf ( NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: Forty-Niner

The Republican looks like the stapler guy from Office Space


9 posted on 06/27/2012 1:10:17 PM PDT by kingcanuteus
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’m a Wisconsin Republican. Republican Van Wanggaard needs to go back to his day job, whatever it was.


10 posted on 06/27/2012 1:10:30 PM PDT by bsdsan
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Keep me in the loop, B.


11 posted on 06/27/2012 1:10:48 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

isn’t this the ONLY race that a democrap won?


12 posted on 06/27/2012 1:12:02 PM PDT by Mr. K (I AM WRITING-IN PALIN/GINGRICH)
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To: kingcanuteus
Don't you dare take his swingline.

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13 posted on 06/27/2012 1:16:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This is exactly the reason why the Obama campaign is hiring a couple of thousand lawyers to proctor the 2012 election. Stealing is an option if things don’t go as planned.


14 posted on 06/27/2012 1:18:22 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Mr. K

Yep!


15 posted on 06/27/2012 1:20:33 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

16 posted on 06/27/2012 1:23:44 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The Journal Sentinel is not telling the whole story (shocking I know). Just a few of the things that the State GOP is telling talk radio people:

- there is a supplemental book for same day voters so they have to sign two separate times. In some cases there are no signatures recorded at all in others the signature is completely different from one book to the other.

- voter number is supposed to be assigned to each person voting and in a number of cases there was a question mark next to the name instead of the number or no number at all.

- harassment of Republican poll watchers and ignoring contested ballot requests/signatures

- this was not widespread over the entire voting area but specifically in the city of Racine.

The books are such a mess that the GOP cannot make heads or tails of some of the ward rolls.

The Dems stuffed the ballot boxes with not only fraudulent voters in person but IMO were likely taking matters into their own hands and adding ballots at the last minute when they thought Waangard could still win.

Cheating is possible when subtle...4000 random votes from wards in the City of Racine is not subtle but criminal.


17 posted on 06/27/2012 1:25:50 PM PDT by MNlurker
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Democrats don’t need no steenkeen laws. They can do anything they want because they are Democrats.

Wanggaard should definitely take this to court.


18 posted on 06/27/2012 1:27:19 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I don’t get my “key” for the voting machine until I have 1. Shown a picture ID, 2. signed the poll book.
The poll book requirement is as old as my voting memory, the photo ID is fairly new, several years.
I have no idea why Ohio’s photo ID requirement hasn’t been challenged.


19 posted on 06/27/2012 1:30:42 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

20 posted on 06/27/2012 1:31:15 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Truth29
Or what? A law without consequences is meaningless. It sounds like the election officials have just said "Oh, never mind."

Sounds like a certain President deciding that he doesn't feel like upholding the immigration laws... or other laws he doesn't agree with (DOMA). Lawlessness... you have a home in the Democratic Party.

21 posted on 06/27/2012 1:31:42 PM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: MNlurker
The Dems stuffed the ballot boxes with not only fraudulent voters in person but IMO were likely taking matters into their own hands and adding ballots at the last minute when they thought Waangard could still win.

A good percentage of the poll WORKERS had signed the recall petitions, so they had a vested interest in this election.

22 posted on 06/27/2012 1:40:09 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’m not up on the lingering effects of the recall attempts, but didn’t we hear that the senate has no activity scheduled before Nov 6, and that this contested seat is up for election *again* in November? A simple “No” would be a sufficient answer, but I do remember pundits laughing over the Dims one “win”.


23 posted on 06/27/2012 2:00:51 PM PDT by Grampa3711 (Some people bring happiness wherever they go; others, whenever.)
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To: Grampa3711

Not exactly. The Senate has no business until afte the November election, UNLESS the Goovernor calls them back into session. Some Senators would like that because they feel that there is still lots of unfinished business.

This particular seat will NOT be up for re-election in November — not until 2014 — because of re-districting. Don’t ask me to explain that, because I can’t. Something to do with the recall being run in the district with the old lines and the next election will be along the new lines which are different.


24 posted on 06/27/2012 2:20:18 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: cripplecreek

What, a photo ID, what for? If you do not need a photo ID when you vote, which is a democrat privilege, why one for employees, why one for auto drivers, why one for ATM and other bank credit cards, why one for passports etc.??? I think we should ban all photo IDs and then everyone can do just as they please. (sarcasm) Eric Holder & Barack Hussein Obama are true enemies of the state!!! How any sane, objective American voter could vote for Obama is beyond objective comprehension.


25 posted on 06/27/2012 2:28:52 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

In all fairness, the signature provision is relatively new.”

Balderdash! Having changes in the law which affect voting regs is no excuse. Texas has been through the ringer this year with changes due to Federal intervention. If you want to work in the polls you had to attend a long training session and be re-certified. Had this omission occurred once, that is one thing but for so many to not have signed is a red flag indicating other issues.


26 posted on 06/27/2012 2:49:02 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

Normally I work at the polls, but I was out of state for this election. We’ve had training after training, but the GAB keeps getting sued over the election rules, sometimes with injunctions put in place just days before the election. Then the rule you were trained for is suspended.

My understanding is that these were new registrations, so there was probably no form for them to sign. Certainly the poll’s Chief Inspector should be fired because it was her job to see that this was done.

But 4000 new registrations in one municipality is enough to overwhem any system which is why they should halt this registration at the polls business. That is one reason the legislature should go back into session.

People who are already on the poll list have a place to sign right next to their name in the book, so it is no problem. People who are totally new don’t have a list to sign, or didn’t on election day in Racine. I’m sure they signed their registration application (I hope). It’s curious that dozens of PRE-SIGNED blank registration forms were found in the dumpster at one of these polls. Pre-signing a registration form by an election official is highly irregular. Whoever signed them should be fired.


27 posted on 06/27/2012 3:18:45 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: bsdsan
Republican Van needs to keep the pressure on...

its only losers that let the rats get away with this stuff time and again...

just like in Washington State and Minn...where rat irregularities are routinely dismissed...

fight..fight..fight...at least let them know that we're on to them...

4000 NEW registrations on election day?....preposterous...

28 posted on 06/27/2012 5:00:28 PM PDT by cherry
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To: tflabo

So, you feel the need to mock a guy who’s on our side? Who stood by Governor Walker, even though he represents a swing district, knowing full well it could cost him his job? Who’s now watching the left not win the recall election, but steal it?


29 posted on 06/27/2012 10:05:48 PM PDT by LouD (I stand with Scott Walker)
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To: bsdsan

I’m a Wisconsin Republican, too, and a constituent of Senator Wanggaard. The only “day job” he needs to go back to is representing me in Madison, not allowing a bunch of union scum to steal an election on behalf of a draft-dodging, convicted felon tool of the teacher’s unions like Lehman.


30 posted on 06/27/2012 10:09:38 PM PDT by LouD (I stand with Scott Walker)
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