Skip to comments.Affordable Care Act SCOTUS Decision--Live Thread
Posted on 06/28/2012 4:56:21 AM PDT by John W
Today is the day. SCOTUSblog live at 8:45 AM.
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So in other words.. if I don't want to purchase something I have to pay a tax in order not to purchase that something?
What the heck kind of ruling is that?
“Roberts decided with the Left on Arizona and Stolen Valor as well as Obamacare. Thank you, George W. Bush.”
The common thread: Lying. Roberts is OK with the President lying about whether or not he will uphold the law of the land, and OK with people lying about military service, and OK with Congress lying to the American people about whether a proposed law is a tax. No need to move the Fast and Furious scandal into the courts.... if it gets to the Supremes, Roberts’ decision is a foregone conclusion.
40 years? At this rate, the republic won’t be in existence that long.
But it says per SCOTUSblog: In opening his statement in dissent, Kennedy says: “In our view, the entire Act before us is invalid in its entirety.”
What we find today is that a bill that does not contain the word tax and was passed by Congress and signed by the President on that basis, has now been ruled by edict by the SCOTUS to include a tax.
Therefore, the SCOTUS has just created a tax on the U. S. Citizens, this in and of itself a violation of the U. S. Constitution.
“Our only hope is to defeat this guy in November. I dont care how little enthusiasm everyone has for Romney, please get over it and vote for him. To save our country.”
AMEN! Anyone who doesn’t do ALL they can to get this radical, Marxist, Muslim, America-hating demon OUT of our WH either wants more of him to completely take this country down or doesn’t realize how completely, actively dangerous he is.
This SCOTUS decision is flabbergasting. Sickening. I never dreamed that the mandate, much less the rest of this travesty, would stand in any way.
Meant NOT full of fluff. I guess this validates the originally laughable position that was voiced early on that the administration was going to play to Roberts’ previous views on taxation. We laughed at the time, but they were spot on.
Johnny "Weasel" Roberts Eyes
Can we opt out of tax withholding by our employers...that would starve the beast!
The fact that states don’t have to accept new Medicaid funding, and can’t be penalized is a small victory - Roberts threw us a bone ...
The single payer system was the goal from the beginning. This decision paves the way. Socialized medicine is just around the corner.
Well at least John Roberts won’t have to worry about healthcare rationing...
Washington no longer represents the people the three branches of government are corrupted and spend more time screwing the people and less time governing.
You make a good point on de funding. I haven’t seen this opinion online, but I am thinking that what the SC said is that it could be held valid as a tax, but would need to be re-written and passed by Congress. I’m not sure I’m right, but, if this is so good luck passing a new tax in Congress in an election year.
I have been giving Roberts the benefit of the doubt all week. No more. He has betrayed us and our nation.
NOTHING would surprise me, anymore...nothing.
Soros controls SCOTUS??....it could be.
Elections not held? IT COULD BE!!
NOTHING surprises me, anymore =(
Still waiting on Myth...statement??? Nada...my next guess, he is going to try and fanagle ObamaCare to RomneyCare (I thougt of it first!!!)
And on the topic of the spineless...wasnt Boehner “ready” with all kinds Bills??? Boehner...hold Holder in Contempt before lunch and work on REPEALING this after lunch...
Where is the leadership of the Rs?
My wife is busy watching the stock market plummet. Watch gun and ammo sales hit unprecedented highs today.
FK all these people.
They will absolutely burn in hell.
The government can now insert itself into each our lives for any and all things.
Not that they haven’t been doing it anyway.
Or how about: Obama and the Democratic Congress voted to place a $2000 tax on individuals who don't have (or can't afford) Health Insurance!
This is a magnificent, and accurate, post. Downticket is absolutely vital in November even if we have a thoroughly horrible Presidential candidate
Romney has ONE chance to get this right. He needs to say, today, that he will repeal this monstrosity immediately -- in full and without exception. Give the Congressional candidates something to run on.
The Tea Party has just been thrown into hyperdrive. If Romney wants conservatives on board, the Chief Weasel of the United States Supreme Court has just given him the opportunity.
...And can't be penalized....yeah, right. After what just happened in AZ...I don't believe that for a second!!
Then why did Kennedy write the DISSENT, claiming that the whole thing is unconstitutional?
Sickening. Time to emmigrate.
Keep your cool and vote the socialist fools out in November. Acts of violence only play into Obama’s hand.
I’d rather have a RINO in the White House than a socialist dictator. I can bust Romney’s chops after the election.
Kennedy voted opposite of Roberts. He actually got this one right.
Kennedy got it right. Unbelievable
Kennedy was in favor of complete repeal, apparently. Roberts, and Roberts alone, bears the blame for this decision, because the reliably statist/liberal 4 were foregone conclusions anyway.
Megan Kelly on Fox News dramatically pronounces that Supreme Court has decisively refused Congress’s attempt to gain unprecedented power via the Commerce Clause, while failing to add that they simultaneously gave Congress that exact same unprecedented (and virtually unlimited) power via taxation.
It’s now official. America is not a free country.
The largest tax increse in WORLD history
And of course, the most important thing, is to remember to vote republican this November, because that will make such a big difference in how this country is run.
Do I really need a sarcasm tag?
This was a political decision by the court, just like the Arizona decision was. The Obama administration dared the court to go against it, and the court blinked, big time. I welcome many of you to the realization that the Republic ceased to exist long ago.
>It means you are not being forced to buy anything. Only that you have an option not to, but must pay a tax if you dont.<
I fail to see the difference, but then again, I’m not as smart as John Roberts < /S>.
Bravo for Justice Thomas and the conservative minds on the Supreme Court.
Actually, it was 5-4. Kennedy voted with Alito, Scalia, & Thomas. OK, I thought I was going to throw up when I heard; HOWEVER, perhaps there is a silver lining.
1. Obama has passed the LARGEST tax increase in the history of our Republic. Get the commercials ready using his own words. 2. Obama can't fire up his "folk" with the meme that 4 white guys and an Uncle Tom took away your health care. 3. Congress can't penalize the States for not expanding their Medicaid funding.
We need to get fired up, get mobilized and hammer this. Removing Obama and 2010 Redux is our only hope. IMHO
I was just thinking guns are next and I’m getting one for sure now.
My advice to people is buckle up for a bumpy ride. Pay off your debts, and secure your guns. Leave nothing out there that the government can get it’s grimy hands on.
They were. I never saw this coming. I actually thought some of the liberals would join the conservatives.
Now we have yet another reason to vote Obama out...can you imagine the power Kathleen Sebelius, that icy authoritarian, will have under this law if Obama gets a second term?
Big sigh...........can someone PLEASE explain to this simple minded woman what on earth is going ON????
IF this ball was just batted back into the hands of CONGRESS, IS IT NOT yet still in PLAY???
Please tell me yes!!! and then CONGRESS CAN vote it down. That will still be a painful blow to Obama, and the left RIGHT??
“In other words, as everyone feared, it really only came down to what side of the bed Kennedy woke up on. Right? Kennedy.”
I wish that had been the case: Kennedy voted with Scalia, Thomas and Alito to declare the entire law unconstitutional. Roberts joined the four liberals to uphold the mandate as a tax.
In other words we can’t make you do anything, but we can damn sure make you wish you had.
“My wife is busy watching the stock market plummet.”
Me too. It seems to ratchet downward every 10 minutes as the implications of this disaster sink in.
That said, if the DJIA were any REAL indication of the direction this country is heading, it would have rocketed downward to well below 5000 on the day this POS RaceMarxist was elected.
A special place in hell awaits Roberts. What a disappointment.
I suppose the silver lining is that our side can’t possibly be any more motivated than this.
It means the govt. can’t force you to buy health insurance, but they can tax you if you don’t.
This ruling and the repeal of Bush/Obama tax cuts will ruin the economy. Hopefully it’s enough to stop Oturds re-election. Then we can work on starving the beast.
Emphasize ammo there. The Obama plan is to get rid of ammo, since it’s easier than getting rid of the 2nd Amendment. I had heard that Soros was buying ammo manufacturing companies. Get lots of ammo while you can, America.
Time to armor up. Queue Tony Stark:
If we cant protect the Earth, you can be damn sure we’ll avenge it.
Only in an alternate universe would I ever expect to see Roberts voting with the four crazy leftists.
I had him pegged wrong. Extremely wrong.
God help our nation!
>>Sickening. Time to emmigrate.
Emigrate where? America was the last bastion of liberty. Stop retreating and fight!
Bunch of cowards.
Wonder what they have on Roberts.