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High court upholds key part of Obama health law
AP ^ | 06-28-12 | Mark Sherman

Posted on 06/28/2012 7:29:46 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA

The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld the individual insurance requirement at the heart of President Barack Obama's health care overhaul.

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KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; commiecare; fuscotus; govtabuse; healthcare; obamacare; obamacaretax; obamunism; reaganwarnedyou; tyranny; ussa; waronliberty
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To: Lazlo in PA
Amid all the “we are doomed” and the “America is finished” pronouncements I would like to interject a bit of reason.

There is nothing passed by one Congress and signed by one President that cannot be undone by another Congress and signed by another President.

Elections are in November.

There is also a silver lining in this ruling, in that there was at least ONE big fat ugly camel that could not be passed through the eye of the needle called “interstate commerce”. According to the ruling Congress doesn't have the power to do ANYTHING based upon some tangential effect upon interstate commerce - although they DO still have the power to tax.

As such 0bamacare is the largest tax increase in USA history.

A tax that falls unfairly upon the young and healthy (who are on average less well off) to subsidize the health care of the elderly (who are on average the Americans with the greatest accumulation of wealth).

A very UNPOPULAR tax to fund a very UNPOPULAR program.

The electoral mandate from the next election should be clear - rejection of the government takeover of health-care and the largest tax increase in US history.

51 posted on 06/28/2012 7:50:08 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Great. Now we can look forward to doctors immediately closing up shop while patients will be left to be treated by Obama-voting, unqualified, affirmative-action hacks who can barely speak English working in government clinics.


52 posted on 06/28/2012 7:50:08 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Lazlo in PA
The Individual Mandate was voted 5-4 but it did not apply since Roberts agreed with the SCOTUS liberal wing that the penalty amounted to a tax. Since it is read as a tax, the Commerce Clause does not apply.

It is a house of cards that will soon be blown down.

53 posted on 06/28/2012 7:50:30 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Jimmy Carter's incompetence + Richard Nixon's paranoia = Barack Obama)
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To: Lazlo in PA

A 4th grader can see that this is not Constitutional.

If the government can do this, what the F can’t it do to us?


54 posted on 06/28/2012 7:50:31 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Flightdeck
"anyone who does not get out and vote against Obama is officially an enemy of the United States."

You STILL don't get it?

EVERY Government position of Authority is FILLED with those who want BIG GOVERNMENT/Centralized Control. From the USSC, through the White Hut, through the Congress, we are screwed.

Election of more Conservatives will not be accomplished in decades, to un-do the Lifetime Appointed USSC, Federal Liberal Activist Judges, and the control of ALL Media for propoganda.

What SHOULD be done, is the cutoff of Tax-payments by those who are forced to fund parasitic lifestyles, inner-city tribes, non-U.S. Citizens INCLUDING "Anchor Babies".

Months ago, I had said that Arizona's efforts would be Ruled against, and Obamacare WOULD NOT BE UN-DONE, regardless of Constitutionality. THE FIX IS IN, PERIOD.

55 posted on 06/28/2012 7:50:36 AM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: jjm2111

Couldn’t have said it better.


56 posted on 06/28/2012 7:50:37 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: unixfox
The fist tweet from the DNC executive director.

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57 posted on 06/28/2012 7:51:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: RobbyS

So if the States can opt out of expanding medicaid its citizens still have to pay the tax for the other States.


58 posted on 06/28/2012 7:51:06 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Lazlo in PA

The first online source of magnetic “Impeach Roberts” bumper stickers is going to make a lot of money.

And, given that most of the liberal vandals who would key a car carrying an Impeach Obama bumper sticker have probably never heard of John Roberts, maybe they don’t even have to be magnetic signs.


59 posted on 06/28/2012 7:52:48 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: All

The decision was clear. The fed govt can make you do anything, pay anything for anything as long as they call it a tax.


60 posted on 06/28/2012 7:53:12 AM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Anyone have an idea how this can be mandated as a tax, and be constitutional with so many specific groups, such as Congress or Illegal Immigrants, Native American tribes, certain Religions.....exempted?


61 posted on 06/28/2012 7:53:42 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: nerdgirl

Judges are creatures of government. They live off of the government, they exist because of government. Judges hate self help. Judges need dependency more than any other branch.


62 posted on 06/28/2012 7:53:45 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Lazlo in PA

It’s a good day to be a Communist.


63 posted on 06/28/2012 7:53:56 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
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To: jjm2111
No need to pull anything on this matter. We just got jerked off royally by SCOTUS and why not tell it like it is? Looks like the government can now tell us what to buy and when we have to buy anything. I want to know how a person that lives below the poverty line can ever afford to buy health insurance? If i have to buy it, so should they, and i want to know since i will have to pay for theirs will i get a tax deduction and be able to use them as dependents? Either way the comments on Roberts were well written and certainly made me laugh. You Sir call them like you see them.
64 posted on 06/28/2012 7:54:44 AM PDT by Plumberman27
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To: mass55th

I don’t think they “mandated a tax”,
they ruled that the mandate WAS a tax,

and therefore passed constitutional muster.

The 0bama admin was arguing that it wasn’t a tax only for the purpose of deflecting the “tax increase” label.


65 posted on 06/28/2012 7:55:10 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Norseman

Well that didn’t take long:

http://shop.cafepress.com/impeach-john-roberts


66 posted on 06/28/2012 7:55:10 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Romney better get his a$$ to the microphones pronto and give a statement on this. Where is he?


Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha! His roomful of elves twisting their hands trying to come up with the right milquetoast response takes hours if not days.


67 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:17 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: cripplecreek

Enforce it. BITCHES.


68 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:18 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Mountain Mary

remembering that Roberts was the Justice who swore obama into office the second time, and in secrecy...why the secrecy?


69 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:26 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: Norseman; All

When and Where is the first anti-slavery rally?

OBAMACARE = SLAVERY


70 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:30 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: VikingMom

MSNBC just called it “the Roberts Supreme Court”.


71 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:34 AM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: jjm2111
"If we’re going to live in a socialist dictatorship I hope we at least get some snappy uniforms to wear."

I'll have my designed by Hugo Boss please.

72 posted on 06/28/2012 7:56:59 AM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: Sister_T

Agreed but that is going to take a Congress with the stomach and stones to do it.


And where will we find these people? It sure as hell ain’t the Republicans.


73 posted on 06/28/2012 7:57:22 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Lazlo in PA

The last straw has just been placed on this citizen’s back.

This is no longer the country of limited government as designed and demanded by the founders.

Secession has to tried again.

We have half the country which wants to live off the other half. Half believes the moral high ground is killing the unborn. Half the country hates the military while claiming to support it. Half the country completely disagrees with the founders brilliance of limited government.

We cannot resolve these differences EVER at the voting booth. Only a divorce between the parasites and the body of producers is a viable solution.

As it stands we are living in the roach motel and the roaches are keeping us hostage


74 posted on 06/28/2012 7:57:46 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Norseman
As disappointed as I am in this decision I think you're right and almost the same words I used with my wife; the awakening of the sleeping giant.

There were, of course, other factors but Obamacare was a big part of the election results of 2010.

One can hope.

75 posted on 06/28/2012 7:57:57 AM PDT by Proud_texan (Scare people enough and they'll do anything.)
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To: dfwgator

I agree, it’s just unthinkable that this man could have done this. I’m taking it very personally I suppose - but I had a lot of faith that his core values would guide him, and I always thought he was a very conservative man to the core. Seems not so much - to have sided AGAINST Kennedy even - caramba that is just bizarro and I can’t make a lot of sense of it, other than to think that his ego is bigger than his “conservative values”. The whole “I’ll just be an umpire calling balls and strikes thing”... I mean give me a break, that’s the kind of thing you can say to get appointed, but all judicial decisions are affected to some degree by your underlying beliefs, your political philosophy, and your view of federal power vs. states rights.

I think Roberts looked for any way possible to uphold this thing, because he is more concerned with being seen as this “umpire” character than anything else.


76 posted on 06/28/2012 7:58:06 AM PDT by nerdgirl
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To: mass55th

Yes, not that the Black Robbed C—ksuckers have not written law in the past......But I didn’t realize they were elected representives able to create and pass laws?

“How can the court deem a mandate a tax?”

I had a feeling if they struck this POS obamacare down then then SS and Medicare would be on thin constitutional ice.

Newt was right.....ALL ASSHOLES voting for this should be IMPEACHED.


77 posted on 06/28/2012 7:58:25 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their Moonbats)
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To: MrB
"they ruled that the mandate WAS a tax..."

Thanks for explaining it so this dummy can understand it. Obama and the Dems own it then, and if the Republicans don't push it that way this election year, then they're the dummies and not me.

78 posted on 06/28/2012 7:59:14 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Norseman

Support the Tea Party. Whatever you can give! I just did. I also made a contribution to the Republican Party. Carville said this is the end of the Tea Party. Prove him wrong!


79 posted on 06/28/2012 7:59:46 AM PDT by southernmomma
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To: unixfox
Enforce it. BITCHES.

Well that's not very civil. LOL
80 posted on 06/28/2012 8:00:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Plumberman27

There is no reason that a law could not be passed now that says

“you must buy 5 pounds of broccoli per month or pay a $100 fine”


81 posted on 06/28/2012 8:00:37 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: traditional1
What SHOULD be done, is the cutoff of Tax-payments by those who are forced to fund parasitic lifestyles, inner-city tribes, non-U.S. Citizens INCLUDING "Anchor Babies".

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

It's way past time for a tax revolt in this country. Refuse to file, refuse to pay and refuse to become slaves!

Come and take it assholes!

82 posted on 06/28/2012 8:01:32 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: JimRed

No chance of that.


83 posted on 06/28/2012 8:02:29 AM PDT by yield 2 the right ( Space blank until I come up with a nice Tagline.)
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To: TexasNative2000
It is a house of cards that will soon be blown down.

I agree.

The ACA should never, never have been passed. The SCOTUS ruling will have the (un) intended consequence of punting the whole issue back to the legislature for repeal.

Talk about a gift for the Tea Party.

84 posted on 06/28/2012 8:02:58 AM PDT by floozy22 (ACA: Repeal ! Repeal ! Repeal !)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Did the mandate to provide abortions, etc. fail then. I’m trying to understand this.


85 posted on 06/28/2012 8:02:58 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Stop with all the Anti-Bush and Anti-Roberts water over the dam cry-baby krep. There is one issue that counts, only one: Throw out as many Dems in November as possible, starting with Obama. And when someone claims it doesn't matter who wins the presidency, remember, these were the people who claimed McCain was only a RINO, so it was Ok to vote for Obama! After all, how much harm could he do in 4 years???? Remember that?


86 posted on 06/28/2012 8:03:54 AM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: allmendream

All good points.


87 posted on 06/28/2012 8:04:25 AM PDT by floozy22 (ACA: Repeal ! Repeal ! Repeal !)
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To: MuttTheHoople
If the GOP is smart...

I see a flaw in your statement.

88 posted on 06/28/2012 8:04:25 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I know Boehner didn’t spike the ball, but did he cry?

If he doesn’t act forcefully today toward this usurpation of freedom, someone needs to make him do much more than cry. Tar and feathers will make you scream.


89 posted on 06/28/2012 8:04:25 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: cripplecreek

**You don’t have to accept it, you just have to pay for it.

How is that constitutional?**

Taxation without representation?

Rings a bell, doesn’t it? How our country was founded in the first place.


90 posted on 06/28/2012 8:04:44 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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There aren’t enough obscenities in the English language to express how I feel right now.


91 posted on 06/28/2012 8:05:15 AM PDT by Catmom
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To: nerdgirl

I knew he was no good when he was first appointed and his son behaved do badly in public. It showed he had no discipline in his home.


92 posted on 06/28/2012 8:05:15 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Lazlo in PA

They ruled that the individual mandate requiring us all to “buy” insurance is unconstitutional...and that should be the end of it. Back to Congress to change, fix it, or shelve the whole thing.

But, no. They then (it sounds like) unilaterally and unconstitutionally took it upon themselves to basically re-write the legislation and call that purchase mandate a tax and then say “now it is ok, proceed.”

How can the US SUPREME COURT WRITE ANY LEGISLATION?

Answer: They can’t. It would be unconstitutional.

The Congress writes laws. So with what the legislation clearly called a mandate to buy ruled unconstititonal, it should go back to congress to alter it into a tax...WHICH WOULD NEVER PASS THE CONGRESS.

I am shocked and severely disappointed in Roberts. They are (if this interpretation is correct) writing legislation from the bench which is not within their power to do.

I guess we’ll see what it all means, but that’s how I am reading it now and it is very disappointing if that is correct.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY
http://www.jeffherad.com/crossroads.htm


93 posted on 06/28/2012 8:05:45 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: corlorde

MSNBC just called it “the Roberts Supreme Court”.

Yep - he’s clearly their best friend now.....he’ll be called “courageous”, “principled”, a”brilliant jurist”...

So, why did he drink the Kool-aid? Was his family threatened? Or do they have something on him?


94 posted on 06/28/2012 8:05:59 AM PDT by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know who holds the future!)
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To: Lazlo in PA

The lawsuits against this are going to fly by the millions. It won’t be the Catholic Church fighting this alone.

Now it’s everyone!


95 posted on 06/28/2012 8:05:59 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: cripplecreek

The language and the smirk tell you what this was about all along, and even 0bama alluded to it long ago.

It’s reparations. 0bama said that he didn’t favor a reparations payment, but instead preferred implementing perpetual social programs that achieved more wealth transfer in perpetuity, all the while keeping the race-grievance industry alive.


96 posted on 06/28/2012 8:06:06 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Lazlo in PA

“The ruling also hands Obama a campaign-season....”

No it doesn’t. Too many folks were/are against Obamacare. I would like to think he will have even less backing.

I expected OB/BS not to lose this one. It was just a gut feeling.

It still makes me very, very sad.

But wait until my hero, Arpaio, and his Cold Case Posse throw their bomb.

Everybody better run for cover.

The fireworks are going to be outstanding!


97 posted on 06/28/2012 8:06:20 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: hattend

Thanks for the laugh this morning ... I sure as Hell needed it!


98 posted on 06/28/2012 8:06:54 AM PDT by j.argese (If Speaker Gingrich is on my state's primary ballot, I will vote for him.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Looks like my prepping will be going into overdrive. If dear leader gets re-elected, he’ll milk the legal standard this sets so much he’ll make Hitler look like an amateur.


99 posted on 06/28/2012 8:08:31 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: RWB Patriot

The timetable has just accelerated, indeed.


100 posted on 06/28/2012 8:10:46 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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