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Now That Obamacare Has Passed, Here's What It's Going To Cost You [ the fine is $2,058.00 !!!! ]
businessinsider.com ^ | June 28 2012 | Mandi Woodruff

Posted on 06/28/2012 11:53:55 PM PDT by NoLibZone

Consumer penalties: Part of the controversy surrounding health care reform was that the law would mandate coverage for all Americans on pain of penalties. Those penalties will be tiered and rise over a three-year period that kicks off in 2014, according to the National Association of Consumer Protection:

2014: Families––$285 or 1 percent of total household income, whichever is greater. Individual adults––$95. 2015: Families––$975 or 2 percent of income, whichever is greater. Individual adults––$325. 2016: Families––$2,085 or 2.5 percent of income, whichever is greater. Individual adults––$695.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/what-obamas-affordable-care-act-will-cost-consumers-2012-6#ixzz1zAA0EjcL

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; obamacare; zerocare
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To: ModelBreaker

And the rich can hide and delay income, so it really has no effect on them.

It’s the middle class that has to draw a paycheck each week and is thus the one that covers the costs and deficits.


41 posted on 06/29/2012 1:21:47 AM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The looters love the ER becasue it’s one stop.

Exam, Blood work with immediate results and the prescription.

My wife use to see illegals for tooth aches at the ER!!!


42 posted on 06/29/2012 1:25:00 AM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: ModelBreaker

Big monkey in the room was Kagan... she should have been forced to recuse herself from the SCOTUS decision... then it would have been tied. What a farce.


43 posted on 06/29/2012 1:34:42 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: abishai

What legal immigrants come here poor? None that I ever saw going through the process.


44 posted on 06/29/2012 1:36:04 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: abishai

What legal immigrants come here poor? None that I ever saw going through the process.


45 posted on 06/29/2012 1:36:10 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: NoLibZone

[The looters love the ER becasue it’s one stop.
Exam, Blood work with immediate results and the prescription.
My wife use to see illegals for tooth aches at the ER!!!]

The hospitals signed on to ObamaCare because—among other things—they thought it would cut down on the uninsured using their emergency rooms.


46 posted on 06/29/2012 1:42:51 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: NoLibZone

First $70,000 tax free (limit may have changed). Watch out for those taxes on earningz in some countries where you working and registering yoour tax home. Make our tax rates look like a bargain.


47 posted on 06/29/2012 1:43:55 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: NoLibZone

Who would have thought that a professor community agitator marxist professor that never worked a day in the private sector would come up with such brilliant “solutions” such as giving billions to phoney green energy companies that go bankrupt, bailing out unions while shafting bondholders and non-union pensioners, over $1 Trillion on “shovel ready” jobs that “I guess weren’t actually shovel ready, hah ha.” Now he gives everyone “FREE” healthcare to buy votes. How does a person love America and at the same time does not HATE Barack Obama?


48 posted on 06/29/2012 1:56:50 AM PDT by reaganator
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To: F15Eagle

That...IS funny!!


49 posted on 06/29/2012 2:19:39 AM PDT by floozy22 (ACA: Repeal .. Repeal .. Repeal !)
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To: NoLibZone

So, a “family” with 2 kids will pay the samy as a “family” with ten kids.

Talked to a small business owner last night. He’s got a wife and 4 kids. His premiums are $650 a month, or $7,800 a year, with a $10,000 deduction. He’ll be one of the first to say “fine me and give me the insurance.”

There are so many questions about these “fines”. What if daddy is killed and the insurance through work stops? Does the family immediately get fined? And how much is the fine since the family is now without a father?

What if there’s an accident and half the family is killed. Does the remaining family get a pro-rated rebate?

And as far as family, can parents and parents-in-law and grown kids move in and call themselves a family? Hell, can the neighbor move in and call themselves a family. And the big question: Can two men pretending to be gay move in and be considered a family?


50 posted on 06/29/2012 2:33:49 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: NoLibZone

I just ran the numbers.
I’d be better off paying the fine than Medicare +BCBS supplement.


51 posted on 06/29/2012 2:40:43 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: clearcarbon

You bring up another question. If a person is arrested for not paying his fine, does he get insured while in prison? Does his family?


52 posted on 06/29/2012 2:43:06 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Terry Mross

At some point in the last 2 weeks I thought I read where these fines apply ONLY if your state has a Health Insurance Exchange and you refuse to participate.

In states without a Health Insurance exchange, the fine does not apply

26 Republican Governors have declared their states will not participate in the Health Care scheme.


53 posted on 06/29/2012 2:43:28 AM PDT by plangent
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To: kevao
WTF is this “most” sh!t?

50% + 1?

54 posted on 06/29/2012 2:43:59 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: NoLibZone

It’s not a fine, it’s a tax, silly. We pay those every day. /sarc


55 posted on 06/29/2012 2:55:56 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: plangent

I think there are states that will not participate in Medicaide. But they’ll still have their “EXCHANGES”, whatever that is. So, will those people on medicaide now be fined because their state no longer offers it?


56 posted on 06/29/2012 2:56:43 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Dont forget free taxi rides


57 posted on 06/29/2012 2:59:42 AM PDT by winodog
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To: abishai

The welfare mother with six kids with six different last names: Who pays her premium?

The newly arrived immigrant (both legal and illegal) without a dime on them: Who pays?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/what-health-bill-means-for-you/

Your coverage:

Right now:
If you have been unable to obtain health insurance as a result of a pre-existing medical condition, you may be able to buy it through one of the “high risk pools” the law has set up in each state through the end of 2013. But the premiums in the pools vary and can be high.

Starting in 2014:
Based on your income, it appears you would be eligible for Medicaid beginning no later than 2014. The law expands Medicaid to all individuals and families with incomes at or below 133 percent of the federal poverty level. But the court found that states cannot be penalized if they decline to comply with the expansion, raising questions as to how effectively the federal government will be able to implement it.


58 posted on 06/29/2012 3:08:37 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: AlexW
"Does any of this apply to Expats who no longer live in the USSA?"

Very good question. Medicare can't be used outside of the US, territories, and maybe possessions, so paying for medicare outside of the US is a waste of money. It would be a small consolation if Obamacare had the same pattern.

60 posted on 06/29/2012 3:14:59 AM PDT by Truth29
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