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Revealed secret wiretap tapes trouble for Attorney General Eric Holder and DOJ
San Antonio Examiner ^ | June 12, 2012 | Jack Dennis

Posted on 06/29/2012 10:26:31 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet

Anonymous sources presented secret wiretap applications last week to the chairman of the Congressional committee which could spell disaster to Attorney General Eric Holder’s Fast and Furious defense.

The evidence reveal high-level Department of Justice officials approved the “gun walking” tactics that could have led to the death of a U.S. Border Patrol agent.

The committee has been trying for 15-months to get information from Holder, who has used every legal, and arguably illegal means, to stall the committee from furthering their investigation with information from the Department of Justice (DOJ).

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; brianterry; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; issa; issawiretaps; jaimezapata; murdergate; obama; terry; wiretaps; zapata
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Hmmm.
1 posted on 06/29/2012 10:26:35 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

# ast and Furious
# June 12, 2012
# Add a comment

Yesterday Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said the investigation panel will vote next week to hold Holder in contempt of Congress.

That would be the vote they had yesterday.


2 posted on 06/29/2012 10:30:04 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

I hope the go down in flames! Every last one of them Obama included!!


3 posted on 06/29/2012 10:30:52 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Restaurant waiter to Holder: “How do you like your goose cooked?”


4 posted on 06/29/2012 10:30:57 AM PDT by PT57A
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Then arrest him and stop talking big.


5 posted on 06/29/2012 10:31:38 AM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Don’t you just love “Anonymous sources?”


6 posted on 06/29/2012 10:31:58 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

"...so ahhh Eric, can I have your desk lamp and Rolodex."

7 posted on 06/29/2012 10:33:36 AM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: PT57A

Don’t hold your breath.


8 posted on 06/29/2012 10:33:36 AM PDT by Twinkie (Isaiah 53)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

About 4 days ago I accurately predicted this.

To: Carry_Okie
I am wondering if committee counsel already has a “Butterfield” moment and Issa is sand-bagging to see what else shakes out before he reveals it in open session.

60 posted on Monday, June 25, 2012 8:58:35 PM by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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9 posted on 06/29/2012 10:34:59 AM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

The link leads to an article on June 12, 2012.

Drudge revealed today that Issa put the wiretap info into the Congressional record (for which Issa has immunity)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2900998/posts?page=1


10 posted on 06/29/2012 10:35:20 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Twinkie

start leaking


11 posted on 06/29/2012 10:36:01 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: KC Burke
About 4 days ago I accurately predicted this.

To: Carry_Okie
I am wondering if committee counsel already has a “Butterfield” moment and Issa is sand-bagging to see what else shakes out before he reveals it in open session.

I remember your post because I thought (when I read it) that the "Butterfield moment" happened on national TV, at Sam Ervin's Watergate Committee hearing.

But of course before that Butterfield moment, there was another Butterfield moment that was experienced in private by the Watergate investigators. Hillary Clinton could - conceivably - have been one of those.

12 posted on 06/29/2012 10:39:46 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
I seems obvious to me that some Patriots within the BATF and DOJ saw Holder's criminal activity for what it was and claimed whistle-blower status while providing Issa with documents substantiating their claims.

Issa is releasing the information piecemeal to show how dishonest Holder really is. Holder likely does not know the full extent of what Issa has.

13 posted on 06/29/2012 10:42:55 AM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Won’t make much difference. We are under communists control and there is no law that can disrupt our communists Government led by our communists black King, King Obama. And almost a majority of Americans, who are the most violent, support this garbage. (I am totally pissed) This rotten government has destroyed one of my daughters and the other is going down due to job loss.


14 posted on 06/29/2012 10:44:20 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
So Eric Commie Holder and Obama are about get Watergated? I hope so. :-)

The evidence reveal high-level Department of Justice officials approved the “gun walking” tactics that could have led to the death of a U.S. Border Patrol agent.

No doubt. I'm sure it wasn't some rogue agents or deputy Fed DA down in AZ.

15 posted on 06/29/2012 10:44:25 AM PDT by Red Steel
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This SOB Holder and all the other thugs involved in this F&F should be fitted with orange jumpsuits.

This CRAP has gone on too long and the Terry, Zapata, and innocent mexican families deserve better.


16 posted on 06/29/2012 10:49:16 AM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: Red Steel
The evidence reveal high-level Department of Justice officials approved the “gun walking” tactics that could have led to the death of a U.S. Border Patrol agent.

And considering Obama's penchant for micro-management, the evidence trail might point all the way to him after all.

17 posted on 06/29/2012 10:49:46 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
high-level Department of Justice officials

drip. drip, drip, GUSHER!

18 posted on 06/29/2012 10:51:30 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (54,000,000 0bama's people on welfare and food stamps?)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Not much in that article. Badly written, too.

But if there is wiretap info, I wanna hear it!! When will that come out? Ever?


19 posted on 06/29/2012 10:51:48 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ( "Be Breitbart, baby!")
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

More...


20 posted on 06/29/2012 10:55:06 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: All

21 posted on 06/29/2012 10:55:16 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Logical me

“Won’t make much difference. We are under communists control and there is no law that can disrupt our communists Government led by our communists black King, King Obama. And almost a majority of Americans, who are the most violent, support this garbage. (I am totally pissed) This rotten government has destroyed one of my daughters and the other is going down due to job loss.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuStsFW4EmQ


22 posted on 06/29/2012 10:55:16 AM PDT by Signalman ( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
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To: formosa

Ah, lest we forget, the timing is everything. Apparently all of it is right on time, leading up to the election.

What I don’t get is that the players are consumed with the single death of our lost border patrol officer, Brian Terry, but fail to drive home the point that 300 Mexicans were murdered also with the same ATF guns, in a foreign country in secret operations without permission nor coordination for the operation with the Mexican government.


23 posted on 06/29/2012 10:56:58 AM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Now there are tapes! Looking more and more like Watergate, isn’t it?


24 posted on 06/29/2012 10:58:45 AM PDT by conservative sympathizer
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To: conservative sympathizer
Now there are tapes! Looking more and more like Watergate, isn’t it?

Of course, one difference is that since this scandal involves a Democrat administration, there aren't any Woodward and Bernsteins from the MSM investigating it.
25 posted on 06/29/2012 11:01:03 AM PDT by Signalman ( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
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To: All

Issa got these wiretapp apps into the public record (they were court sealed) due to the floor debate for the contempt vote.

Darrell Issa Puts Details of Secret Wiretap Applications in Congressional Record

http://www.rollcall.com/news/darrell_issa_puts_details_of_secret_wiretap_applications_in_congressional-215828-1.html


26 posted on 06/29/2012 11:01:44 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: All
"The wiretap applications were signed by senior DOJ officials in the department’s criminal division, including Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein, Deputy Assistant Attorney General Kenneth Blanco and another official who is now deceased."

Ruh-roh.

27 posted on 06/29/2012 11:02:06 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: RitaOK
Yea, Obama’s war in Mexico in which more people are dying than in Afghanistan.
28 posted on 06/29/2012 11:03:58 AM PDT by 12chachacha
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

As “Plugs” would say, “That’s a BFD!” Federal wiretaps, known as Title III intercepts, require approval by the Attorney General. Holder’s fingerprints and signature are all over the paperwork. So, on top of the contempt of congress charges, he now faces charges on multiple counts of (dare we hope?) Perjury. That should be worth a couple of years at Club Fed. Feel like signing, Mr. Holder?


29 posted on 06/29/2012 11:04:39 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Tell me why I doubt the lawless ones are shaking in their boots.


30 posted on 06/29/2012 11:07:42 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: PowderMonkey

They are going to have to reopen Alcatraz to fit all of the bodies that should be going down as a result of FF...

I don’t suggest modernizing the cell blocks either.


31 posted on 06/29/2012 11:09:32 AM PDT by cableguymn
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To: MestaMachine; hoosiermama
See my post #28 in this thread for yesterday's Congressional Record submission by Issa. If you do a search of the document using "wiretap", you'll come up with a bunch of stuff. Just keep clicking ">" (next)...
32 posted on 06/29/2012 11:10:11 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

“Breaking News” doesn’t mean “news from three weeks ago.”


33 posted on 06/29/2012 11:11:23 AM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: KC Burke
...a "Butterfield" moment....

Funny how all those invisible techs and lowly assistants who've been instructed not to look upon the power hungry basilisks find their moments to trip the bastards up. Righteous payback is far more than just a bitch.

Here's hoping Hill and Michelle have more than a few restless nights.

34 posted on 06/29/2012 11:12:43 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
But if there is wiretap info, I wanna hear it!! When will that come out? Ever?

It's a wiretap application, not the wiretap itself. The document proves that high-ups in the DoJ (e.g., Holder's immediate subordinates) knew and approved the operations.

35 posted on 06/29/2012 11:12:48 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: Signalman

LoL. “Always the negative waves Moriarty always the negative waves. “


36 posted on 06/29/2012 11:13:10 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Steely Tom

“....Watergate investigators. Hillary Clinton could - conceivably - have been one of those.”


I’d forgotten that Hillary had a role in Watergate investigation.

(A BLAST from the PAST, Steely Tom!)


37 posted on 06/29/2012 11:14:46 AM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere.)
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To: Logical me

I hear you and we especially feel the pain of our children.

It has affected my daughter as well.

I’m not discouraged though. Some people here wanted us to hit bottom. We’ve hit it.

This country is resilient. I’m voting for Romney and I’m optimistic about him.

I also think we’ll make gains in the house and senate.


38 posted on 06/29/2012 11:15:17 AM PDT by altura
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To: formosa

Newsflash.

The House of Representatives can’t arrest anyone.

The House also can’t make anyone else arrest anyone.


39 posted on 06/29/2012 11:17:52 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Signalman

I nominate David Codrea as Woodward.


40 posted on 06/29/2012 11:19:44 AM PDT by karnage
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To: txrangerette

Except for Nancy Pelosi. She’s special that way.


41 posted on 06/29/2012 11:19:54 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: Raebie

It was one of her special delusions.


42 posted on 06/29/2012 11:22:37 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: RitaOK

for all the love this tyrannical adminstration shows to illegal Mexicanos...you’d think they would have a little regret over the massive killing fields brought on my OUR govt...


43 posted on 06/29/2012 11:22:44 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Perjury and Obstruction of Justice are criminal acts for Republicans, not for Democrats!

(Nixon got run off, Clinton got a pass.)

44 posted on 06/29/2012 11:27:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
If you have an interest in this, you MUST read Katie Pavlich's book "Fast and Furious". We have all gotten the info piecemeal because the MSM has ignored it. Katie puts all of this in perspective. The back 1/3 of the book is "proofs" for what she states. There is also an excellent timeline that is worth spending time with. She has put actual copies of the emails with the redactions into the appendix ... No wonder Issa said these were "black" documents. To me, it was a surprise that Napolatano was up to her ears In this too, and real purgery has occurred. I read the Kindle edition, but tonight ordered a hard copy so I could share the redacted documents and timelines with friends.

When watching the Dems on cspan, they said gun walking started under Bush and was contimued under Obama. If you are not informed, you would hear this and wonder. But if you had read this book, then would tend to jump up, scream "you lie!" at the TV and proceed to prove it with facts.

Hats off to this young lady for an excellent job...finally we encounter a real journalist.

45 posted on 06/29/2012 11:30:38 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Boiling tea makes it stronger. I'm a Tea Party Patriot...and I AM BOILING!!!)
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To: Kevin in California
This SOB Holder and all the other thugs involved in this F&F should be fitted with orange jumpsuits. This CRAP has gone on too long and the Terry, Zapata, and innocent Mexican families deserve better.

There will be hundreds of lawsuits for wrongful death brought by Mexican Nationals whom lost family members to these weapons.

I also see criminal prosecution against Holder when we have a new administration in January. It appears to me that Holder is probably guilty on conspiracy and an accessory to murder.

Obama will pardon him maybe? However, there are others below Holder that are also criminally involved. Right now they have great motive to talk if they think Obama will lose the election. How would you like to be prosecuted while your boss walks free with a pardon and you were doing his bidding?

46 posted on 06/29/2012 11:47:53 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Something I've been saying for a while is that Romney's "Super Pac" needs to put together some advertisements IN SPANISH, detailing F&F, the fact that more than 300 Mexican are dead, Holder stonewalling the investigation, Obama declaring "executive privalege" as the last moment, and the dems walking out on the contempt vote, effectively joining in on the coverup of over 300 dead innocent Mexicans!

With Holder and Obama trying to court the Hispanic vote by claiming the F&F investigation is to disenfranchise them, the "Super Pac" needs to SHOUT that Holder and Obama are involved in an active coverup in the illegal international trade of weapons to the drug cartels AND the murders of over 300 innocent Mexicans.

Mark

47 posted on 06/29/2012 11:49:47 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Carry_Okie

I should have pinged you to #9 since your name is in it.
See responses at 12 & 34.

And, have a great Independence Day, I know I will as I have the two oldest grand kids going to the lake with me.


48 posted on 06/29/2012 11:50:38 AM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: 12chachacha
Yea, Obama’s war in Mexico in which more people are dying than in Afghanistan.

And Obama's supplied weapons to the bad guys, fighting AGAINST THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT, that have killed more innocents in Mexico than we lost in Viet Nam. I believe the Mexican death toll is approaching 60,000.

Mark

49 posted on 06/29/2012 11:54:33 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
It is the age old question.

How do you bust the cops? Who will prosecute Holder in this day and age?

I respect Issa, but I don't see that much will happen. The DOJ (obviously) has already said they won't play.

50 posted on 06/29/2012 12:04:52 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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