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Kids who bullied bus monitor suspended for a year, assigned to reform school
Hot Air.com ^ | June 29, 2012 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 06/30/2012 10:06:19 AM PDT by Kaslin

You need closure.

Following individual meetings this week with school and district administrators, each family waived their right to a hearing and agreed to one-year suspensions from school and regular bus transportation. The Greece Central School District is legally required to provide all students ages 5 to 16 with an education, therefore, during the 2012-13 school year, the students who have been suspended will be transferred to the district Reengagement Center, located in a non-school facility. This alternative education program keeps middle school students on track academically while providing a structured opportunity for students to take responsibility for their actions by completing community service hours and receiving formal instruction related to conduct and behavior that prepares them for a productive future. The program includes a strong parent involvement component.

Each student will be required to complete 50 hours of community service with senior citizens and will complete a formal program in bullying prevention, respect and responsibility. In accordance with district policy, if at 30 weeks into the school year the students have completed the conditions of their discipline and are in good standing at the Reengagement Center, they can apply for early readmission to Athena Middle School.

Too much, too little, or just enough? A year’s a stiff sentence for 10 or so minutes of verbal harassment, as nasty as it was, but the school district’s under immense pressure to be strict with the little cretins. And this incident’s playing out, of course, amid growing awareness culturally of how bad the effects of bullying can be. Crack down on this bunch and you send a national message given the spotlight on this case.

Because I know you’re wondering, the donations for Klein now stand north of $668,000. Per the Times, more than 30,000 people have contributed from all 50 states and 82 countries. Two days ago, she finally met the man who came up with the idea. Here’s the vid from WGRZ.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: New York
KEYWORDS: athena; bullying; busmonitor; education; klein; livewoodchipper; monitor; newyork; overkill; punishment; schoolbus; schoolbusbullies; schooldistrict; suspension
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To: dljordan

Actually looked at least one oriental kid on the vid

Maybe adopted

As is the rage......or expediency.....these days


101 posted on 06/30/2012 12:04:24 PM PDT by wardaddy (i eat more chicken than any man ever seen....)
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To: raccoonnookkeeper

This guy is the prime example of a stealth lib. He is blaming the victim, excusing the aggressors and avoiding legitimate fact while injection opinion as his own.

The recent purge missed one it seems.


102 posted on 06/30/2012 12:04:24 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Uncle Slayton

The $600K+ question is how much latitude was she granted by THAT particular incarnation of the employment position, to effect such an end.

You know that damn well, you ass hole.


103 posted on 06/30/2012 12:05:07 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: dennisw

They wouldn’t learn a thing with 3-6 mo suspension from a school bus. Maybe that’s your aim. If they’d had parents worth anything, they’d never have had the mindset to act in this manner.


104 posted on 06/30/2012 12:05:19 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: raccoonnookkeeper
Some people on FR overdo the Manichean-Ayn Rand philosophy - to the point of having very little pity or understanding of others.

Personally, I'm so glad the little tykes videotaped this horror. Sunlight IS the best disinfectant.

105 posted on 06/30/2012 12:06:47 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Norm Lenhart

Her job was to maintain order on a school bus and was paid $75.00 and hour of tax payer money to do so.

She was not a victim of aggression, only a victim of her own incompetence.


106 posted on 06/30/2012 12:07:18 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Norm Lenhart

As C. S. Lewis put it, castrates then bids the geldings be fruitful. Which is what libs do with their utopian schemes. You’d think Uncle would be upset with the way these figureheads have their hands tied, but no!


107 posted on 06/30/2012 12:07:48 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Wrong.


108 posted on 06/30/2012 12:08:49 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: miss marmelstein; Norm Lenhart
Add me to your shocked list.

Maybe the 'too harsh' crowd missed the parts where the little sociopaths mentioned breaking into her house and another future Ted Bundy talked repeatedly about STABBING HER.

Then afterward, when one of little maggot's father said, 'My son has already "suffered enough" because his face was now on YouTube'. -- my head almost exploded! It was no wonder to me where sonny boy got his attitude from. Daddy is a low-life cretin too.

So I hope these little brats enjoy their year in 'Juvy Jail School'. They'll meet REAL Bullies who would stab them for their lunch money, or shoot them for their shoes if they met on the street. They'll also see on day one what being tough is all really all about and Daddy won't be able to buy their way out of trouble, or have mommy there to wipe their bloody nose.

Back in my public school days in Chicago (50's & 60's) the 'Elementary Reform School' was called Montefiore. You also got sent there if you kept flunking and got to an age too old for Elementary School. And if you were white, it was almost like a death sentence (daily beat downs). Most became 100% truants and formally dropped out as soon as they could -- with a 7th Grade Education. I have one older loser cousin who was it, and he deserved it, in spades. (and I still don't like him)

109 posted on 06/30/2012 12:09:36 PM PDT by Condor51 (Never mess with an old man. He won't fight you he'll just kill you.)
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To: raccoonnookkeeper

What are the odds he’s either a school board member or a homeowners assoc wannabee?

Seems likely to me with his....logic.


110 posted on 06/30/2012 12:11:37 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: HerrBlucher; All
...hire R. Lee Ermey as their “teacher.”

This incident is just another example of the dumbing-down of our culture, morals, ethics, etc. There was a time when school busses did NOT require a 'monitor.'

Speaking of Emery, if they had monitors, symbolically this is how a bus monitor would have handled this incident by the precious snowflakes thugs pre-1960's (when this country started losing it).

Presently, this is how school districts expect monitors to handle these thugs precious snowflakes.


111 posted on 06/30/2012 12:11:49 PM PDT by QT3.14 (Electile Dysfunction...inability to become aroused over any of the choices for president)
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To: Norm Lenhart
UNCLE IS A LIBERAL!
112 posted on 06/30/2012 12:12:10 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: raccoonnookkeeper

“The $600K+ question is how much latitude was she granted...”

Being that she had been earning $75.00 an hour and gullible people sent her $600,000.00 I would guess here Latitude is around 18.10’S which would put her in Fiji.


113 posted on 06/30/2012 12:13:07 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Condor51

Unless, of course, parents get smart and home school them.


114 posted on 06/30/2012 12:14:07 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: Ann Archy

They are sometimes called alternative schools. Also, its a growing industry to place these youth in residential treatment facilities ( I’ m administrator/special ed teacher in classroom with these youth). If they fail to adjust they go to even stricter living/educational setting. Most do their time and end up back in these same systems until they turn 18.


115 posted on 06/30/2012 12:14:41 PM PDT by Boxsford (God Is.)
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To: raccoonnookkeeper

That’s a ruling even Roberts couldn’t screw up based on all available evidence on this thread ;)


116 posted on 06/30/2012 12:16:25 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Uncle Slayton

If she gets to retire in Fiji, as far as I am concerned, that’s wonderful.

But she seems the kind who cares. She might well plow most of that back into community or church projects. But not Uncle’s House Of Fiddle Around. (Allusion to Tommy)


117 posted on 06/30/2012 12:16:51 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: Uncle Slayton
One should not accept a job that they cannot handle.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

One should not accept a job with conditions that make doing the job impossible. And.... Some jobs are simply evil.

So....I have NO NO NO sympathy for teachers who complain:

—” The administration makes me pass failing students on to the next grade.”

—” The administration forces us to have a godless classroom and forces us to make the students think and reason godlessly.”

—” The administration makes us give gay literature books to the students.”

—” The administration won't let us teach about the Founding Fathers.”

—”The administration won't let us have an American flag in the classroom.”

—The administration makes me take the students to the yearly gay-perversion day long school festival.

— The administration won't let us say the Pledge of Allegiance”

—’The administration won't let us discipline the students.”

118 posted on 06/30/2012 12:20:58 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Condor51

Daddy and son remind me of Eric Harris and his psycho father, Wayne. For years, the father made excuses for his little murderer. The kid had explosives in his closet and mummy and daddy didn’t know it. To this day, Father Harris refuses to acknowledge that he or his wife were in any way responsible for Columbine.


119 posted on 06/30/2012 12:21:35 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: raccoonnookkeeper

“But she seems the kind who cares.”

The only thing that matters in a job is performance and for this lady was incapable of performing her job.

I’m sure there are other folks who would be more than happy to be a bus monitor for almost $75.00 an hour.

As for the kids, yes they are brats deserving of discipline, but the school system has no choice by the attempt to educate them. The school bus monitor can and should be replaced for doing a bad job.


120 posted on 06/30/2012 12:22:52 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton

Really kills you that the old broad got that $600,000, doesn’t it?


121 posted on 06/30/2012 12:24:27 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Uncle Slayton

No matter how often you say it, you are still wrong.

But if you wish REAL HARD the Blue Fairy will come and make you a real boy.


122 posted on 06/30/2012 12:25:20 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: miss marmelstein
No elderly American should have to put up with that corrusive, evil behavior.
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Neither should the kids have to hear it or witness the abuse.

On some level **all** the children on the bus know that this venom could at any moment be directed at them and their lives could be made a living hell. These kids are trapped. They are abandoned to this Lord of the Flies environment by their parents, the teachers, and the administrators.

Geeze! Why are children expected to put up with a hostile working environment that would win an adult millions in court? The really kicker is when adults tell them it is good for them.

123 posted on 06/30/2012 12:27:59 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Uncle Slayton

They could have paid her $75,000 an hour and the problem would remain the same. Impossible conditions, set up by bureaucracy. Be upset with the rules that are endemic across the Ewe Essay pubskewl systems. Not with what she, as a patsy, found herself in.

You only display yourself more and more an ass (and an ass hole) by this broken record of yours.


124 posted on 06/30/2012 12:29:17 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: miss marmelstein

“Really kills you that the old broad got that $600,000, doesn’t it?”

No, it kills me that is this once great country of America, where for the last 45 years that government has rewarded incompetence via Social Welfare Programs and now even the citizens are willing to send $600,000.00 to a person simply because they are incompetent for their job.


125 posted on 06/30/2012 12:30:00 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton

Another sign that you are a liberal. You equate voluntary donations which nobody coerced with what the government exacts as taxes at gunpoint.


126 posted on 06/30/2012 12:32:16 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: Graybeard58
the donations for Klein now stand north of $668,000

I hope she has a good accountant - if she's smart, she'll be able to avoid paying any taxes on any of it thanks to the gift tax exemption, since I doubt any one person gave her more than $13,000.

127 posted on 06/30/2012 12:32:53 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Uncle Slayton

The Cheezburger cat haZ a sad for you.
The lady with $600K haZ a happy.
But you does not haZ a happy.
That makes me haZ a happy though, so I suppose it’s good all around.


128 posted on 06/30/2012 12:32:53 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Uncle Slayton
They were 7th grade kids and each and every day millions of parents, teachers, coaches, grandparents and bus monitors manage to keep control of 7th grade kids.
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Have you spoken to a 7th grade government school inmate ( oops! student) recently?

My husband and I were scout leaders for 3 1/2 years. What the scouts report about their schools and the buses is shocking. Why their parents keep them in these cesspools of chaos and ignorance is a mystery to me.

129 posted on 06/30/2012 12:33:09 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: raccoonnookkeeper

Yes, problems exist throughout our public school system, but for not every school bus monitor is as incapable as this lady.


130 posted on 06/30/2012 12:33:30 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Norm Lenhart

that’s a sadd of course, and a hapy.


131 posted on 06/30/2012 12:35:34 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: Uncle Slayton; Will88

I agree with both of you.


132 posted on 06/30/2012 12:36:20 PM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: raccoonnookkeeper

No, people are just conditioned to reward incompetence, but at least the people who donated cut out the federal middleman in their payments to someone so incapable.


133 posted on 06/30/2012 12:37:57 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton

Is that a first faint glimmer of light, or just the cherry on the end of your toke?

Viewing the situation holistically is an absolute imperative. Would the Incredible Hulk have been able to do any better there at that spot? There’s no evidence it would.


134 posted on 06/30/2012 12:38:15 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: Uncle Slayton

You haZ a “wrong” to go with your not happy still?

You should go get a “right” and a happy! Here, I have an overabundance of ‘right’ so you can haZ one of mine!

“This woman deserves every gift she got and was blameless in her actions.”

There! Now you haZ a ‘right’!


135 posted on 06/30/2012 12:38:17 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: beandog

Another illogicker flushed out.

Real dogs eat meat, not beans.


136 posted on 06/30/2012 12:39:33 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: raccoonnookkeeper

Eh...whadda you know...you keep raccoons in a knook ;)


137 posted on 06/30/2012 12:39:59 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Uncle Slayton

You have not proven your premise of incompetence, rather than that of being placed under rules that guarantee an ineffectual execution of the titular task. And the vast weight of evidence across the Ewe Essay is of the latter — which is a known effect of liberalism.


138 posted on 06/30/2012 12:42:16 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: raccoonnookkeeper

Liberals haZ no happy. They haZ a dumb though.


139 posted on 06/30/2012 12:44:02 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: donna
The problem is godlessness.

Precisely so. I saw an interview with some kids from the middle school the boys attended. One of them said that even though these boys deserved a stiff punishment, they were unlikely to learn anything from it. "That's just how kids are these days," he commented. He was right.

140 posted on 06/30/2012 12:48:57 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: Norm Lenhart

The only tack our ragged individualist Uncle could hope to logically take, is that such a job ought to be boycotted and thus force its masters to change it.

Perhaps our lady was a little naive to think that what it appeared to say — that her presence and a nice kind loving helping hand when needed would suffice — was realistic. But that’s really all. And he’s bent out of shape at $75/hour... for how many hours? It’s a pin money job but not much more than that in this lousy economy.


141 posted on 06/30/2012 12:51:52 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: Uncle Slayton

It’s called charity, bub. It’s been going on in this nation since its founding. Get used to it.


142 posted on 06/30/2012 12:53:08 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: wintertime

You make some really excellent points! Can you imagine the poor kids having to sit there and listen to this vicious stuff?


143 posted on 06/30/2012 12:58:26 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Maybe Uncle has a point, though, about what’s needed to do better. Even though the monitor is forbidden to do anything substantial, the kids do not need to know. Go to the local Hells Angels hall and whoever isn’t a convicted pedophile, offer them this $75/hour gig. Kids won’t dare mock or act up.

Still, this woman struck a chord with so many because she so epitomized the results of the problem with how youth are being brought up today. Which is almost all a parent failure which in turn is a failure of godliness.


144 posted on 06/30/2012 1:00:58 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: raccoonnookkeeper

He’s just pissed that he probably doesn’t make that much. IMO, $75 hr isn’t worth the crap she or any in her position deal with. He can make all the asinine comments he wants to but like you said, the reality is she is constrained from anything to maintain order. That’s the bottom line.

Because SOMEONE will get that job regardless.

So who is the bigger fool? The woman doing a job as best the law allows or some disgruntled twit on the net with an attitude problem, a case of envy and in inability to reason like an adult?

Should she not do the job as the law demands and be sued/jailed? Or should she quit and be unemployed because Jackwagon has a problem with it?

Uncle and logical thought are the two farthest opposing points of the universe.


145 posted on 06/30/2012 1:01:19 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Kaslin
Their new bus monitor:


146 posted on 06/30/2012 1:04:00 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: raccoonnookkeeper

I would love to see the Hell’s Angels on buses! What a hoot to watch the little tykes cower in fear.

What struck me first in the video (aside from the horrific attack) was her stoicism in the face of it. She was calmly sitting there, quietly answering the miserable thugs. I think that’s partly why people rallied to her defense. Plus, Americans do not like to see the elderly abused by wet-behind-the-ears teenage boys.


147 posted on 06/30/2012 1:08:55 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Those kids are probably mostly going home to empty houses so the time on the bus is considered a free-for-all with no consequences whatsoever.

Until now. “;^)


148 posted on 06/30/2012 1:10:26 PM PDT by b9
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To: b9

Yup! It’s now onto reform school for the little darlings. Can’t wait for the video showing them being abused.


149 posted on 06/30/2012 1:12:47 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: b9

I agree! This brouhaha did serve a great purpose. It showed there was a limit to how much of this nonsense the brats would be allowed to get away with. It’s part of the solution to the problem... still without godliness it’s like putting more nails in that Jello to try to get it to stay on the side of the tree.


150 posted on 06/30/2012 1:13:00 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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