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RFK Jr. (Kennedy) cut off late wife’s credit and stiffed lawyers: court papers
New York Post ^ | July 1, 2012 | Melissa Klein

Posted on 07/01/2012 9:01:45 AM PDT by Zakeet

Edited on 07/01/2012 9:16:48 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Mary Richardson Kennedy had to scrounge for cash to pay for even the most basic needs in the last months of her life, according to new court filings.

“Mary was left to sometimes ask for $20 from the parents of her kids’ classmates to buy gas and groceries,” a source close to Kennedy told The Post.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: divorce; kennedy; rfk; suicide
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To: truth_seeker

You are absolutely right, get those kids away from RFK immediately! Don’t they have family on their mother’s side?


51 posted on 07/01/2012 12:53:14 PM PDT by BLOC77 (i was pro-life before pro-life was cool)
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To: SuziQ
An annulment simply states that the SACRAMENT of Matrimony wasn't valid, so that union didn't exist in a SACRAMENTAL manner.

I'm unfamiliar with this. Can you elaborate?

52 posted on 07/01/2012 12:59:30 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (i a m t h e m a r g i n o f e r r e r)
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To: SuziQ

“Please don’t peddle this crap. RFK, Jr. might be a Grade A #1 A$$, but contrary to popular opinion, folks don’t ‘pay off the Church’ to get an annulment”

You need to get real. I’m catholic and happy to be one but the truth is that if you have enough influence and cash you can get an annullment. RFK jr. managed to get the church to annul his 13 year marriage over the strenuous objections of his wife. I guess she felt like the marriage was valid all along.

Annullment in the catholic church basically says the marriage was never valid in the first place. There are four or five reasons you can use. Getting bored with wife #1 and wanting a younger model is not on the list. So for all intents and purposes that would make his kids illegitimate.


53 posted on 07/01/2012 1:32:23 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I'm not one to defend Kennedy lowlifes any grounds, and neither do I follow the womanizing adventures of the toothy and famous, but your comment is not well-founded factually.

The word and the concept "bastard" is in dictionaries and is (or was) found in civil law, but the concept and word do not exist in Catholic canon law. There is no such category. If a man and a woman have a child, the child is termed their "natural child" and nothing else. Neither divorce nor annulment changes that.

Second, RFK Jr's second marriage was performed by Justice DONALD N. SILVERMAN of the New York State Supreme Court onboard a boat in the Hudson River. You don't need to be a canon lawyer to see that this was not a Catholic wedding.

Third, marriage tribunals do not post publicly the reasons why they end up with a finding of nullity. Sometimes it's because it became clear that the original wedding vows were fraudulent, e.g. one or both of the spouses never intended an exclusive, faithful, lifelong marriage. Therefore, fraud. Without knowing anything more than that, I think we'd be entitled to assume that if the tribunal judges said they found fraud in the RFK-Emily Black marriage vows, they probably did.

54 posted on 07/01/2012 1:38:01 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("As it is written, the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you." Romans 2:24)
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To: Zakeet

“RFK Jr. (Kennedy) cut off late wife’s credit”

So? Why would his, LATE (dead), wife need credit?


55 posted on 07/01/2012 1:46:19 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: SampleMan
Which Kennedy woman hasn’t been cheated on, stuck in a state institution, raped, or killed?

As in lobotomized on Joseph Kennedy's insistence.

56 posted on 07/01/2012 1:59:42 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (If Obama was any more thin skinned, he'd have a receptacle end: Dennis Miller)
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To: miss marmelstein
..don’t forget lobotomized.

Sorry, you were first.

57 posted on 07/01/2012 2:03:29 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (If Obama was any more thin skinned, he'd have a receptacle end: Dennis Miller)
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To: InvisibleChurch; Georgia Girl 2
See mine here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2901617/posts?page=54#54

A finding of nullity is a judgment of a chuch court (tribunal) which, after reviewing evidence and testimony, conludes that there was some severe defect in the marriage vows from the git-go.

A defective vow isn't a vow; and without authentic vows there cannot be a binding sacramental marriage.

If one of the parties to the vows was drunk, on drugs, underage, mentally defective, under threat or duress (gun to their head), ineligible to marry (because of blood relationship or because of being already married to somebody else, for instance), knowingly lying to or deceiving the other party --- for any such reasons or similar, the tribunal finds that the marriage was never sacramental, because the vow was a "nullity."

This has no impact whatsoever on civil marriage or on the civil legal status of the would-be spouses or their children.

What it does have impact on, is the canonicity of the original marriage. By bringing objective evidence and standards to bear on the validity of a marriage, it should be an aid to the examination of conscience. If the parties have a conscience.

May God help these wretched people.

58 posted on 07/01/2012 2:11:53 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("As it is written, the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you." Romans 2:24)
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To: Zakeet

Let it be known, from this day forward, Kennedy killed another woman.
The same family that lobotomized and locked away a sister, drove into a creek and left a squeeze-mama to drown alone, a family who whelped a son, who as president, treated women like whores.
If there is a ‘’Kennedy Curse’’, it’s well deserved. May the entire clan suffer most horribly.


59 posted on 07/01/2012 2:38:27 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Zakeet

Let it be known, from this day forward, Kennedy killed another woman.
The same family that lobotomized and locked away a sister, drove into a creek and left a squeeze-mama to drown alone, a family who whelped a son, who as president, treated women like whores.
If there is a ‘’Kennedy Curse’’, it’s well deserved. May the entire clan suffer most horribly.


60 posted on 07/01/2012 2:38:35 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

When RFK’s brother Joe got a secret annullment from his first wife Sheila she had to fight for 10 years to get it reversed and her argument was that if the annullment was allowed to stand it would theologically negate the legitimacy of their teenage twins.

RFK jr used his vatican connections to get an annullment from his first wife over her adamant objections so he could remarry wife number 2 in the catholic church. I hate to be so jaded but I highly doubt he had any valid reason for an annullment after 12-13 years of marriage and several children.

How many divorced catholics do you know with really good reasons for being divorced that don’t have annullments? Probably a lot. I don’t know one divorced catholic that has gotten an annullment.


61 posted on 07/01/2012 2:58:34 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
As I said before, there is no such thing as "theologically" "negating" the legitimacy of children. Theological illegitimacy of children does not exist in the Catholic Church. Not sure where you may have read or heard this, but keep in mind that there is a huge, full-time celebrity news-and-gossip industry out there churning out trash about the trash. I'd bet my right arm up to the elbow that few or none of them know or care 2 hoots about Catholic sacramental theology.

"I highly doubt he had any valid reason for an annullment after 12-13 years of marriage and several children."

Again, annulment has nothing, -zero - , to do with how many years they were together or how many children. It is an evaluation of the validity of the vows. Nothing more, nothing less.

If there was force or fraud or incapacity or ineligibility at the time of taking the vows, the vows were "null." That's what "nullity" means. A "finding of nullity" (annulment) means the vows were not validly made. Therefore no sacramenal marriage. It is not an evaluation of the quality of their x-number of years together or their x-number of children. It is the presence or absence of authentic vows at the time of the reception of the Sacrament of Matrimony. Do you get this?

How many divorced catholics do you know with really good reasons for being divorced that don’t have annullments? Probably a lot. I don’t know one divorced catholic that has gotten an annullment.

Civil divorce is not related to annulment. The Church neither recognizes nor prohibits civil divorce. The Church prohibits attempted "remarriage" in the church, because if the original, validly married spouse is still living, civil divorce or not, remarriage would constitute bigamy.

62 posted on 07/01/2012 3:46:28 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("As it is written, the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you." Romans 2:24)
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To: Yaelle

KENNEDYS = Irish Catholic turds with the shine off


63 posted on 07/01/2012 4:46:55 PM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I know several people who have gotten annulments, and they are all of modest income. And there are some folks who have a lot of money which didn't do them any good, when facing the Marriage Tribunal. The Tribunals work very hard, and not all the cases before them end up in annulments.

And once again, the annulment of the SACRAMENT is a religious matter. The legitimacy of the children is conferred by marriage, and if divorce doesn't cause that legitimacy to be removed, neither does an annulment.

64 posted on 07/01/2012 8:53:50 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Georgia Girl 2
When RFK’s brother Joe got a secret annullment from his first wife Sheila she had to fight for 10 years to get it reversed and her argument was that if the annullment was allowed to stand it would theologically negate the legitimacy of their teenage twins.

Well, since Sheila is not Catholic, she can be forgiven for not knowing the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church in this matter. And she was wrong, but the media played up her 'concerns', because they like any story that they think makes the Church look bad.

65 posted on 07/01/2012 9:00:38 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Zakeet

Democrats worship these creeps... think about it and it makes sense...


66 posted on 07/01/2012 9:14:10 PM PDT by GOPJ (Way to go Kraft Foods. I now associate your brand with anal sex.(Oreo cookies) Freeper agere_contra)
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To: InvisibleChurch
When a couple stands before the priest and the witnesses, and makes vows to each other, and to God, they are receiving one of the Seven Sacraments of the Catholic Church.

In order for a Sacrament to be VALID, both parties have to be free to make the promise, that is, they cannot be legally married to anyone else, and must agree to certain commitments; be faithful to each other in the marriage, and be willing to accept children from God, and raise them in the Faith.

If either party lies about their willingness to do that, or demonstrates that unwillingness during the marriage, there is likely evidence to affect an annulment of the Sacrament. This only occurs after a Marriage Tribunal has investigated both parties, has taken testimony from both sides, and has given the matter much thought and prayer. This is also completely separate from any legal actions in the civil courts.

67 posted on 07/01/2012 10:46:54 PM PDT by SuziQ
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