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RomneyCare by the Numbers
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Posted on 07/02/2012 4:17:00 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

-According to the Beacon Hill Institute the RomneyCare plan has increased total health insurance costs by $4.3 Billion.

-The Kiaser Family Foundation recently found that Massachusetts health insurance premiums are now the highest in the nation. This has come about since the passage of RomneyCare.

-Since the passage of RomneyCare, healthcare costs paid by the state have risen until they now account for 40% of the state budget.

-According to current projections, the average median-income family will be expected to pay nearly a third of its income toward health insurance premiums by 2016.

-According to the Pioneer Institute, total spending on Uncompensated Care and Commonwealth Care has increased by 38% since the passage of RomneyCare.

-Since 2004, the average annual premium for non-group insurance nationally increased from $4,424 to $6,328 in 2009. The Massachusetts Average increased from $10,126 to 13,288 in 2009, spiking up to nearly $17,000 in 2007. RomneyCare was passed in 2006 with the partial purpose of addressing the fact that Massachusetts residents paid so much more than the rest of the country for health insurance.

-Since the passage of RomneyCare the percentage of residents with difficulty paying off their medical bills has remained essentially unchanged. Why are we paying so much more for the same results?

-According to the Beacon Hill Institute, RomneyCare is responsible for nearly 18,500 lost jobs since its passage.

-Since the passage of RomneyCare the average cost of individual coverage has increased by more than 36%

-Since the passage of RomneyCare there has been no significant reduction in Commonwealth Care administrative costs as was promised.

-Since its passage, RomneyCare has cost the Massachusetts economy $29 Million in annual private investment.


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And the Un-Masking of Mitt Romney, the lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal, continues . . .
 
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1 posted on 07/02/2012 4:17:04 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

So what do we do Dude or Dudess.?


2 posted on 07/02/2012 4:20:33 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes
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To: SoConPubbie
I have a friend in Massachusetts who wants Nationalized Healthcare. She wants it so that other states can help pay for Massachusetts healthcare costs. I said ‘other states will have their own costs if Nationalized Healthcare is passed’. This woman is normally pretty Conservative. Nationalized Healthcare will be the straw that breaks the camel's back in this once great country. Romney needs to come out and speak of how it didn't work in Massachusetts. NOW!
3 posted on 07/02/2012 4:23:32 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: SoConPubbie
I have a friend in Massachusetts who wants Nationalized Healthcare. She wants it so that other states can help pay for Massachusetts healthcare costs. I said ‘other states will have their own costs if Nationalized Healthcare is passed’. This woman is normally pretty Conservative. Nationalized Healthcare will be the straw that breaks the camel's back in this once great country. Romney needs to come out and speak of how it didn't work in Massachusetts. NOW!
4 posted on 07/02/2012 4:23:33 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: silentreignofheroes
So what do we do Dude or Dudess.?

Vote your conscience and your principles.

Do not vote out of fear.
5 posted on 07/02/2012 4:25:07 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: silentreignofheroes

How about getting off your arse and working to get as many conservatives elected in your state and into the US Congress and US Senate.


6 posted on 07/02/2012 4:25:55 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: SoConPubbie

Damn. Good thing we have the Tenth amendment, and if the people of Massachusetts hate the program so much, they can dump it or change it.

I love the Constitution.


7 posted on 07/02/2012 4:27:08 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoConPubbie

Never Happen.


8 posted on 07/02/2012 4:29:19 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes
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To: SoConPubbie

The people of Mass like Romney care.

It’s very popular.

Do you oppose states rights?

The 500 Conservatives in the state may wish to move.


9 posted on 07/02/2012 4:30:42 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: snarkytart

I live in Alabama,,check out the last election,,Been there done that , and I’m there again.


10 posted on 07/02/2012 4:33:00 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes
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To: SoConPubbie

Sounds like the folks in Massachusetts are not going to have any money left after the feds take their share in 2016. Families will be getting real hungry as I feel certain that the money for food stamps will run out as well.

It is very scary. Mr. Romney still will not admit to his mistake. Hope they do not expect money from the rest of us as we will all be broke by then.

Mitt Romney: For use when lying and looting just aren’t quite enough to bring conservatives on board.


11 posted on 07/02/2012 4:33:39 PM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: SoConPubbie

Do you reject the political wisdom of:

Dick Cheney
Sarah Palin
Michele Bachmann
RUSH
George W Bush

As well as the NLRC’s last two picks for president?


12 posted on 07/02/2012 4:35:51 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: originalbuckeye
She wants it so that other states can help pay for Massachusetts healthcare costs.

I thought the other states were already helping pay for RomneyCare, and without that federal help, the numbers for MA would be even worse . . .

13 posted on 07/02/2012 4:36:13 PM PDT by maryz
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To: SoConPubbie

Are you actively campaigning for 0bama?


14 posted on 07/02/2012 4:38:21 PM PDT by gilor (Pull the wool over your own eyes!)
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To: SoConPubbie


15 posted on 07/02/2012 4:38:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: SoConPubbie

What’s your point? Ensure an Obama win?

Those quotes do not apply to your mission; you’re hijacking them.


16 posted on 07/02/2012 4:39:50 PM PDT by gortklattu (God knows who is best, everybody else is making guesses - Tony Snow)
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To: SoConPubbie

Do you reject the political wisdom of:

Dick Cheney
Sarah Palin
Michelle Bachmann
RUSH
George W Bush
NEWT
Rick Santorum

As well as the NLRC’s last two picks for president?

But agree with Racheal Maddow , Bill Maher, Maxine Waters et all that Mitt is bad ?


17 posted on 07/02/2012 4:41:25 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: gilor

“Are you actively campaigning for 0bama?”


Are you actively campaigning against TRUTH-TELLING on Mitt Romney, a known socialist-liar?


18 posted on 07/02/2012 4:43:07 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: RaisingCain

Not at all, but you are helping 0’s side.


19 posted on 07/02/2012 4:51:02 PM PDT by gilor (Pull the wool over your own eyes!)
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To: SoConPubbie

so since Obamacare is 2700 pages vs 70 pages, will Obamacare be 39 times worse?


20 posted on 07/02/2012 4:52:00 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: NoLibZone

“But agree with Racheal Maddow , Bill Maher, Maxine Waters et all that Mitt is bad ?”


Do you agree that mandates are good, that RomneyCare was a success, and that the billions of federal dollars already poured into Massachusetts in order to prop up their healthcare system isn’t redistribution of wealth from other states into s***-states like Mass? Do you agree that the Constitution of Mass clearly supports RomneyCare? Do you also favor amnesty, chain migration, millions of new “immigrants” to supposedly fill an employment vacuum that actually doesn’t exist? Do you agree with tax plans designed to maintain the progressive nature of government, which also threaten the removal of deductions for things like state property taxes, in order to pay for spending on entitlements, like ObamaCare, which Romney has no legitimate or non-vague plans to curtail?

But most importantly, do you find Mitt Romney physically attractive, and will not mind bending over for him repeatedly as he continues to do exactly what he did in Massachusetts, but on a national level?


21 posted on 07/02/2012 4:53:24 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: RaisingCain
Is Sarah Palin a RINO? Not!!!

Is she GOPe? Not!!!

Is she part of the lie? Not!!!

TRANSCRIPT of part of the Video Interview between Sean Hannity and Sarah Palin April 12 2012:

Downlaod the audio HERE http://www.mediafire.com/?wo9bxx7mqma9x1m

Hannity: (8:40min:seconds to 8:46 ) “Alright, Lets talk about the campaign and your convinced Romney’s it now? Do you think it’s pretty much over?”

Palin(8:47 – 9:09 ) “Well let me put it this way, I don’t want Newt to drop out, I don’t want Ron Paul to drop out, because I want debate still on the ideas that both of the other candidates have been able to espouse and explain to the country, I want Ron Paul’s message about cutting the budget, about the economic woeful times that we are in and what we can do about it I want those to continue to be discussed and Newt has some good ideas too.”

Hannity: (9:09-9:22 ) Are you convinced, because you spoke about this at an earlier time during the primary, are you convinced as to time has gone on that governor Romney will govern as a solid strong conservative or do you still have doubts?

Palin: (9:23-9:37 ) “I am convinced that governor Romney, if he is our nominee and if he is elected president, he will know to surround himself with those that will inherently know to go right, to err on the side of smaller, smarter government and that gives me a lot of confidence.”

22 posted on 07/02/2012 4:54:02 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: gilor

“Not at all, but you are helping 0’s side.”


Not at all, but you have become a propagandist and enforcer for socialists.

The moment this became a fear and suppression campaign against facts, is the same moment you lost all claim to fighting for a “righteous” goal.

If lying and covering up truth is required to be a supporter of Mitt Romney, I will NOT compromise my soul for the GOPe’s short term and virtually irrelevant gain.


23 posted on 07/02/2012 4:56:50 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: RaisingCain

Can you name any GOP presidential nominee you have ever supported?


24 posted on 07/02/2012 5:03:03 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: RaisingCain

You just outed your self:

“But most importantly, do you find Mitt Romney physically attractive”

Homosexuality is upper most in the minds of you Daily Kos peeps.


25 posted on 07/02/2012 5:04:46 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: NoLibZone

“Is Sarah Palin a RINO? Not!!!
Is she GOPe? Not!!!”


Do you know how to make irrelevant statements that are basically demanding that I stop thinking and not analyze reality? YES!!! YES!!!

Is she part of the lie? Not!!!”

Apparently! See below:

Palin: (9:23-9:37 ) “I am convinced that governor Romney, if he is our nominee and if he is elected president, he will know to surround himself with those that will inherently know to go right, to err on the side of smaller, smarter government and that gives me a lot of confidence.”

Like RomneyCare propagandist Pam Bondi? Like Michael Leavitt, Pro-ObamaCare propagandist? Like all the Romney surrogates who have come out over the year saying ObamaCare can’t be repealed in its entirety, and who were also involved with the Sarah Palin smear campaign which was launched to insure Obozo won in 2008, so Mittens can run in 2012? YES!! YES!! YES!

Does anything you say have any intellectual merit beyond designed to get people to cower to Name-Brands without any individual assessment and thinking?

YES! YES! YES!

Are you a friend of liberty and free-thinking?

NOT SINCE MITT ROMNEY! LOL.


26 posted on 07/02/2012 5:06:10 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: RaisingCain
How heavy is 0's water?

I'm not voting for mittens, I'm voting against the worst president I've seen in a lifetime.

You should focus your energies on the senate, 'cause you're starting to sound whiney.

27 posted on 07/02/2012 5:09:34 PM PDT by gilor (Pull the wool over your own eyes!)
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To: NoLibZone

“You just outed your self:

“But most importantly, do you find Mitt Romney physically attractive”

Homosexuality is upper most in the minds of you Daily Kos peeps.”


Sorry, you still win through group-think and slavish devotion to the GOPe, Mittbot.

If you can’t stand people being honest about Romney and his positions, you certainly are not very conservative.


28 posted on 07/02/2012 5:10:34 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: gilor

“You should focus your energies on the senate, ‘cause you’re starting to sound whiney.”


You should focus your energies on the senate, ‘cause you coming in here sounds like you want us to lie and believe lies on behalf of Mittens.


29 posted on 07/02/2012 5:13:08 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: snarkytart
How about getting off your arse and working to get as many conservatives elected in your state and into the US Congress and US Senate

I'm tryin' man but gimme a break, I live in Illinois. We have Durbin and Kirk for Senators, one calls himself a democrat and the other calls himself a republican. I forget which is which because they are both so liberal it's sickening.

I wonder which liberal presidential candidate will get my state's electoral votes? mmmmm, I believe the dark skinned one will.

30 posted on 07/02/2012 5:23:46 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you quote Mitt Romney you don't have to spin.- Lady Lucky)
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To: snarkytart
How about getting off your arse and working to get as many conservatives elected in your state and into the US Congress and US Senate

I'm tryin' man but gimme a break, I live in Illinois. We have Durbin and Kirk for Senators, one calls himself a democrat and the other calls himself a republican. I forget which is which because they are both so liberal it's sickening.

I wonder which liberal presidential candidate will get my state's electoral votes? mmmmm, I believe the dark skinned one will.

31 posted on 07/02/2012 5:24:06 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you quote Mitt Romney you don't have to spin.- Lady Lucky)
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To: RaisingCain

BEGONE TRUTH TELLER!


32 posted on 07/02/2012 5:26:17 PM PDT by billys kid (saying that there are too many children, is like saying that there are too many flowers Mother Tresa)
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To: RaisingCain
That's a stretch, in fact that is a leap.

In other word a BS assumption.

Try being positive, negativity is a trait best left for liberals.

what good comes from your "I'm the one brave enough to state the truth about mittens!" posts? Are you educating us? Really, what is the point?

33 posted on 07/02/2012 5:29:08 PM PDT by gilor (Pull the wool over your own eyes!)
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To: RaisingCain
A poster on this thread just said on another thread that Romney is a conservative. Ah for the good old days when an outrageous lie like that would get a poster banned.

You know when someone claims that romney is a conservative that they are 100% certifiably bat shit crazy.

34 posted on 07/02/2012 5:31:17 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you quote Mitt Romney you don't have to spin.- Lady Lucky)
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To: gilor

There is a small, fanatical cabal of Mormon haters and 0bama supporters active on FR. They fit like peas in a pod and aren’t interested in anything beyond ensuring the defeat of “Mittens”; don’t waste your time on them, because they are pretty much beyond reason at this point. It’s interesting to note that they seem to become most shrill around Freepathon time. Didn’t really see many of their threads since the last funding drive ended...now they’re back like herpes. Coincidence?


35 posted on 07/02/2012 5:40:17 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: gilor; RaisingCain
How heavy is 0's water?

I'm not voting for mittens, I'm voting against the worst president I've seen in a lifetime.

You wacky ABOs.

You can claim a third-party vote for a third party candidate is what it isn't -- a vote for 0bama -- but you can also claim that your vote for Romney isn't what it is -- a vote for Romney. That is how it shows up in the vote totals.

And you expect people to keep straight faces while we read those words. Come January this place will be populated by ABOs trying to wash their hands of Mutt Romney to recapture their conservative creds. Good luck with that.

36 posted on 07/02/2012 5:43:04 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: gilor

“That’s a stretch, in fact that is a leap.
In other word a BS assumption.

Try being positive, negativity is a trait best left for liberals.

what good comes from your “I’m the one brave enough to state the truth about mittens!” posts? Are you educating us? Really, what is the point?”


Hey Mittbot, don’t forget you and your buddies came in here accusing people of being Pro-Obama, and virtually arguing that we all STFU. At least be consistent in your arguments. You’re just doing your best to get people to be silent. How about YOU stay out of the thread if you don’t like what’s being written?


37 posted on 07/02/2012 5:44:26 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Trod Upon
I took a few minutes and read some some stuff posted previously, things are a lot clearer now. I'm no mccain fan, but it looks like somebody on these here interwebs wanted him to fail as well.

I'm guessing a DU troll.

I'll just ask one question:

Who wants 0 in office instead of mittens?

38 posted on 07/02/2012 5:54:06 PM PDT by gilor (Pull the wool over your own eyes!)
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To: RaisingCain
Hey Mittbot, don’t forget you and your buddies came in here accusing people of being Pro-Obama, and virtually arguing that we all STFU. At least be consistent in your arguments. You’re just doing your best to get people to be silent. How about YOU stay out of the thread if you don’t like what’s being written?

mittbot? WOW, sorry but that single post speaks volumes. I'm doing my best to silence who and how? Then the next sentance you tell me to stay out of a thread.

BTW ... Give me an example of when I supported mittens or didn't support free speech.

39 posted on 07/02/2012 6:10:04 PM PDT by gilor (Pull the wool over your own eyes!)
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To: gilor

“Who wants 0 in office instead of mittens?”


I do. Obozo can only have 4 more years, whereas Mittens would demand 8. The collapse will likely occur, if not this year, then definitely next year. Better this happens under Obozo then under a Republican so we can get to work rebuilding the country thereafter. With Mittens, the debt will still crush us, as he has no real plans to tackle entitlements, and the GOP and conservative movement will be much damaged by their conflicting desires to have a conservative government and, at the same time, defend Romney on amnesty, chain migration, the destruction of the healthcare system, the preservation of the progressive nature of government, and no real legitimate cuts to the size and scope of government.

Mittens, on a longer term, does more to harm our movement than Obama does. I’ve seen conservatives suggest that Obozo will round conservatives up and shoot them. I find this much better than conservatives being rounded up onto plantations to support mediocrity and decay. The country is in need of a major reset, and to be honest our future does not look very bright. But the worst thing we can do at this point is surrender any long term hope we can have by short term pleasure of removing ONE GUY, when the ideology behind him prevails in the form of both candidates.

I’m not voting for Obozo. I’ll probably end up writing someone in. But if Obozo wins, I’d rather have a Devil the GOP opposes than one the GOPe loves.


40 posted on 07/02/2012 6:12:50 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: gilor

“mittbot? WOW, sorry but that single post speaks volumes. I’m doing my best to silence who and how? Then the next sentance you tell me to stay out of a thread.

BTW ... Give me an example of when I supported mittens or didn’t support free speech.”


Keep it straight Mittbot, it was YOU who came into this thread asking for the entire thread to STFU. I was merely asking you to take YOUR OWN ADVICE. What other purpose is there than to come into an honest thread and suggest that everyone speaking the truth about Mittens is “voting for O”? It’s to silence people. Mind you, you weren’t the worst one.


41 posted on 07/02/2012 6:16:17 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: gilor

Everyone who abstains or votes for someone other than the GOP nominee, that’s who. They can lie all they want, but anyone with a mind understands that an abstention or vote for a protest candidate negates one more vote that could have been cast against 0bama.


42 posted on 07/02/2012 6:34:55 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: RaisingCain
Keep it straight Mittbot, it was YOU who came into this thread asking for the entire thread to STFU.

citation required.

You're assumptions are terrible and your inferences are even worse.

Conservatives think with their brain, liberals think with the bleeding heart that's on their sleeve.

BTW...still waiting for that example proving that I am a mittensbot.

What other purpose is there than...<- inference.

BTW ... Give me an example of when I supported mittens or didn’t support free speech.

Still waiting....

43 posted on 07/02/2012 6:44:20 PM PDT by gilor (Pull the wool over your own eyes!)
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To: gilor

The answer, Mittbot, is in your explanation for immediately coming into a thread about the evils of RomneyCare, utterly factual which you have not even tried to refute, and immediately insulted others by accusing them of being Obozo voters and helping O.

If that isn’t a request for people to STFU, I don’t know what it is.


44 posted on 07/02/2012 6:48:36 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: RaisingCain
You are lowering yourself to the level of leftists with that weak retort, enjoy the company.

For the record:

mittens = douche

0 = bigger douche

I now see where your loyalties lie, 0bamabot.

I can call names too, Nancy.

45 posted on 07/02/2012 6:58:28 PM PDT by gilor (Pull the wool over your own eyes!)
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To: SoConPubbie
obamasmug

"I thank you and a few other Freepers for all you are doing towards helping me win another term.

David Axelrod and David Plouffe also thank you for making their job that much easier.

My Chicago-Thug, Political Machine extends their heartfelt appreciation.

The same applies for all my good Muslim Brotherhood buds
who have I recrtuited as personal confidants and advisers
as they work diligently (on my behalf)
to replace the Constitution with Sharia.

You HATE-ROMNEY/MORMON folks at FR keep this up
and I'll see if I can get you a gig
with the WA [Com]Post or the NY [Slimes] writing opinions on Mittens.

Thank, you, thank you, thank you!!!

46 posted on 07/02/2012 7:06:45 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: RaisingCain
Mittens, on a longer term, does more to harm our movement than Obama does.

I’ve seen conservatives suggest that Obozo will round conservatives up and shoot them. I FIND THIS MUCH BETTER THAN CONSERVATIVES BEING ROUNDED UP ONTO PLANTATIONS TO SUPPORT MEDIOCRITY AND DECAY"

HUH?

Are you FRIKIN NUTS?

Or more than likely a dyed in the wool, Paul Bot, which would explain a lot, though not your having completely lost your senses and marbles.

I often joke about some to put down the crack pipe, but in your case, I SERIOUSLY suggest you seek Psychiatric Counseling (if not COMMITTMENT) soon, like NOW!!!

47 posted on 07/02/2012 7:16:57 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: gilor

“I can call names too, Nancy.”


No kidding. You came into the thread insulting others and their intentions, and you’ll end up leaving it that way too. And then you whine about getting it back.


48 posted on 07/02/2012 7:18:27 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: NoLibZone
Do you oppose states rights?

Socialism, whether at the state level or federal level is still just as wrong.

I see you have taken the mendacious position your boy Romney has taken as well, that of hiding behind the 10th Amendment to cover up the blatant socialism of his RomneyCare.

Are you really sure you want to argue for an Individual Mandate, and redistribution of wealth by forcing taxpayers to pay for the healthcare of others on a conservative website?
49 posted on 07/02/2012 7:21:01 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

It’s this mentality that prefers spiritual/mental death over physical death that has doomed us to begin with. Of course, the idea that Obozo is going to round people up and shoot them if we don’t vote for Mittens is the height of fear mongering.


50 posted on 07/02/2012 7:21:57 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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