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Ex-FBI employee claims she saw angels at Flight 93
Associated Press ^ | July 3, 2012 | JOE MANDAK

Posted on 07/03/2012 9:03:20 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

PITTSBURGH (AP) -- A former FBI employee who retired due to post-traumatic stress disorder linked to time spent as a liaison between law enforcement and families of United Airlines Flight 93 victims has written a book about seeing legions of angels guarding the site after the hijacked airliner crashed on Sept. 11, 2001.

Lillie Leonardi was a Pittsburgh-area police officer before working for the FBI.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: angels; demons; flight93; ptsd; supernatural; ual

1 posted on 07/03/2012 9:03:23 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Maybe she did see angels.


2 posted on 07/03/2012 9:06:01 AM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m more curious why angels would be guarding the site, than I am about why she was allowed to see them.


3 posted on 07/03/2012 9:07:23 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sounds like the Angels got there a little late.


4 posted on 07/03/2012 9:09:33 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: DannyTN

Protecting a holy site from the forces of the ‘Moon God’ I say.


5 posted on 07/03/2012 9:10:02 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Could it be just another twist to collect disability?

LEO disability claims are cleaning out the empty treasuries all over the place. Better than pension as disability $$$ are not taxed.


6 posted on 07/03/2012 9:10:34 AM PDT by George from New England (Ecaped CT in 2006, moved to north of Siberia)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Millenium”??


7 posted on 07/03/2012 9:11:17 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Gotta keep those disability checks coming due to mental issues.


8 posted on 07/03/2012 9:13:52 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence - Christopher Hitchen)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The article states, “What she is questioning in her book is why she was allowed to see them”. Perhaps she needed to see them if she was having a very difficult time processing the tragedy and dealing with mourning families. Yes... the images could have been a manifestation of her mind but they could have been a message to her that the souls were with God.


9 posted on 07/03/2012 9:15:14 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Joe Brower
Sounds like the Angels got there a little late.

Don't understand your comment. Souls, post death of the body, still require protection from tormenting evil spirits.

10 posted on 07/03/2012 9:17:50 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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ive experienced enuff thingz in my lyfe, that seeing angels is not out of the question....

most of the time this sort of thing is happening, but most folks are preconditioned to not believe, therefore they miss out....

ive been lucky, ive kept myself aware....and experienced all sorts of stuff...


11 posted on 07/03/2012 9:18:26 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: George from New England

She has learned to game the system.


12 posted on 07/03/2012 9:27:44 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Free ThinkerNY
A former FBI employee who retired due to post-traumatic stress disorder

Are their any government employees that have not filed disability/or workers comp, then go off to collect their lottery style government retirement pensions?

It's incredible!

13 posted on 07/03/2012 9:32:11 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: steve86

Really? Could you elaborate?


14 posted on 07/03/2012 9:32:49 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: George from New England
LEO disability claims are cleaning out the empty treasuries all over the place. Better than pension as disability $$$ are not taxed.

You aint kidding...These people are gang raping the system.

15 posted on 07/03/2012 9:33:31 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It could be. I thought I saw them once at the site of a horrible car accident, one kneeling beside each thrown body. They could have been EMTs, but since the bodies were all covered with sheets including the faces, they must have been already dead; so why would an EMT need to watch over each body?


16 posted on 07/03/2012 9:35:57 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: Albion Wilde

Jim Morrison, singer of the Doors, saw an accident and some dead Indians on the highway...He claimed the spirit of one of the dead Indians entered his body....

Of course he didn’t go on to collect post-traumatic stress disorder benefits like so many government employees do...


17 posted on 07/03/2012 9:43:54 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I have no reason to disbelieve this woman. Read “90 Minutes in Heaven” by Don Piper and tell me it’s not possible to feel and see angels.


18 posted on 07/03/2012 9:53:11 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: MeganC

My father, who was in no way a religous person, claimed that he had seen 2 angels take the soul from his dying younger sister’s body the night she passed. This was back in the 1930’s...

Just saying.


19 posted on 07/03/2012 9:56:48 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We could use legions of angels right now to protect us from Obama and the Muslims.


20 posted on 07/03/2012 10:13:25 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: Kartographer

“Protecting a holy site from the forces of the ‘Moon God’ I say.”

My thoughts were along the same lines. She was apparently protected from seeing the evil that was also there.


21 posted on 07/03/2012 10:15:58 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia (It's not a penalty - it's obamaTAX. Make him own it.)
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To: trailhkr1
Gotta keep those disability checks coming due to mental issues.

Good guess (though I've never heard of a Pittsburgh city cop being denied disability if they asked for it).

22 posted on 07/03/2012 10:19:45 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MeganC
Maybe she did see angels.

April 6th, 1992, my first child (a daughter) was born. I was in the delivery room with my wife and then later that day, while my wife rested, went to the "fishbowl" to see my little girl. While I was standing there looking through the glass at my daughter, an older lady (I was 27, she was probably in her mid-to-late 50s) walked up on my left side. She asked which baby was mine and I pointed her out. We had a typical conversation about babies and being a new parent. I'll never forget when she said, "You'd die for her, wouldn't you?" It was at that moment the enormity of being a parent hit me and the love I truly felt for my new little girl overwhelmed me. I turned to respond to the woman and she was gone. I mean literally gone.

Did I see and talk with an angel that day? I'm convinced I did.

23 posted on 07/03/2012 10:21:08 AM PDT by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: dragnet2
Jim Morrison, singer of the Doors, saw an accident and some dead Indians on the highway...He claimed the spirit of one of the dead Indians entered his body...

has Elizabeth Warren tried that one yet?

24 posted on 07/03/2012 10:21:33 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MeganC

Someone posted this on DU and they are venting their spleens with the most vile posts I have ever seen.

Must decontaminate.


25 posted on 07/03/2012 10:24:26 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

If she’s a government employee, no doubt she did and is likely collecting post-traumatic stress disorder benefits like so many other government employees do...They just busted a government fire fighter who claimed multiple work injuries, was getting paid while off work and now he’ll be collecting his gold plated government retirement benefits. While off work due to work injuries he was found on YouTube fighting in the ring at several MMA events.


26 posted on 07/03/2012 10:32:58 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Kharis13

That’s a great story.


27 posted on 07/03/2012 10:36:59 AM PDT by donna (Mitt quote: ...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way...)
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To: Albion Wilde

Sam Kinison died from injuries sustained in a car crash. According to his wife, he was pulled out of the car and seemed to be looking at something beyond the people trying to help him with his injuries. He started talking to someone who wasn’t there and then he died.

http://www.paulluvera.com/weblog/2009/11/the-strange-death-of-sam-kinison.html

My brother-outlaw, who was an athiest, seemed so curious about this and didn’t express disbelief.


28 posted on 07/03/2012 10:38:32 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: MeganC

What about trumpets?


29 posted on 07/03/2012 10:39:26 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: Kharis13

I’ve never seen an angel, but I’m as sure as anyone can be that one intervened in my life and spared me from almost certain death in a freak car accident.


30 posted on 07/03/2012 10:42:25 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: dragnet2

8.7 million workers living on federal disability (SSI) right now getting an average of $1100/month...and only increasing.

and once you get it, you get it for life.

good times...


31 posted on 07/03/2012 11:01:01 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: ZULU

Amen to that!!!


32 posted on 07/03/2012 11:21:59 AM PDT by funfan
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To: George from New England

“Could it be just another twist to collect disability?”

PTSD is real.

If I read correctly, and I don’t guarantee that, she was retired due to PTSD before she went public with having seen angels.


33 posted on 07/03/2012 11:35:33 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Fresh Wind

America needs some angels - A LOT of them - FAST!!


34 posted on 07/03/2012 11:35:50 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: DannyTN

“I’m more curious why angels would be guarding the site, than I am about why she was allowed to see them.”

God sponsored the establishment of America as a Christian nation; Satan established Mohammedism.

Evil always attacks good; that is its nature.

God has a long history of comforting those who have been attacked by evil.


35 posted on 07/03/2012 11:40:02 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

“He started talking to someone who wasn’t there and then he died.”

On a later DVD, a good friend of his gives a more detailed account. Can’t remember the name. Maybe “The Sam Kinnison Story?”


36 posted on 07/03/2012 11:49:15 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: ZULU
We could use legions of angels right now to protect us from Obama and the Muslims.

Perhaps they are. The ability to discern angels is not a gift to hold or treat lightly, and the downside is that one also can discern the agents of the opponent.

Anybody who has been blessed with the company of angels and spared the horror that is awareness and ever proximity of the enemy is lucky.

The Fed could be pulling a scam. But knowing the sh*t you have to put up with from demons once that door has been opened is not something the average person ever wants to deal with.

37 posted on 07/03/2012 11:58:23 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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To: DannyTN
I’m more curious why angels would be guarding the site

Perhaps the angels had been there for the entire episode, not just the aftermath. It could be believed they had been guarding the souls of those who took down that plane in order to save America from a much worse catastrophe. Can't think of a much more dramatic episode in which the help of angels might be needed.

That plane was headed for the capital and/or White House. Can you imagine the horror if it had succeeded in crashing into the capital and potentially killing many of our leaders? America has largely forgotten the episode, but this and all of 9/11 is going to be more widely remembered later after Obama and his revisionism leaves power.

If there were angels at that site, there's a good God sent them in a few hours earlier than the point at which this lady says she saw them, while the plane was still in the air. Later perhaps they were just hanging around keeping the site sanctified for use as a memorial which it has indeed become and from what I hear it is now a very meaningful one. Yes, it may sound weird, but if you believe in the Bible there really are such things as angels and they do intervene in earth's affairs from time to time. What better time than the potential destruction of America on that day of Evil?

38 posted on 07/03/2012 12:19:10 PM PDT by what's up
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To: ZULU

What if they have angels protecting them also?


39 posted on 07/03/2012 12:21:13 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Kharis13
Did I see and talk with an angel that day? I'm convinced I did.

I've often felt that I have been blessed by an angel who has watched over me and kept me safe when I should have died from my own stupidity a long, long time ago.

Many many year ago, for example, I found myself stuck in the Port Authority Bus Station in NYC for the night. About 3:00 am the Port Authority police threw me out on the street. As I walked around the outside of the Port Authority, I was surrounded and harassed by a gang of really nasty toughs. I was certain that they were about to beat me to death and steal the little that I had, when all of a sudden a black man with a white beard and hair, wearing a long white coat appeared out of nowhere, grabbed me by the arm and said "follow me." He lead me into a dark alleyway and when I looked over my shoulder, I saw the gang following us. All I could think was that this guy was part of the gang and that he was was setting me up for the beating of my life in a place where my body may not be found for days. He said, "don't look back" and "trust me" and just as the gang was within arms reach, he pulled me into an opening in the exterior wall of the building (I don't recall a door, but there must have been one, right?) and then down a dark corridor where he pushed open a door (this door I remember) that led directly to the front entrance to the Port Authority where there were several police officers watching the and early morning commuters. As we entered the brightly lit area, I heard my friend say, "you have to have faith," and when I turned to thank him, he was gone without a trace as if he was there to begin with. But I know he was. I am certain he was an angel.

40 posted on 07/03/2012 12:22:26 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: DannyTN

Maybe what she saw was the souls of the victims, which in my eyes are angels.
I’ve never seen any apparitions, or experienced psychic phenomena myself, but that doesn’t mean I don’t believe these kinds of things happen. From time to time I get feelings, and will think of something that will not long after happen, but I don’t consider myself psychic.


41 posted on 07/03/2012 12:22:33 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: MeganC

I believe her. When my son got sick and died I have experienced incidents which confirms death is a transition.


42 posted on 07/03/2012 12:24:44 PM PDT by waxer1 ("The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: grumpygresh

“What about trumpets?”

I personally would not rule out the idea that angels can play bagpipes.


43 posted on 07/03/2012 12:40:31 PM PDT by MeganC (January 20, 2013: The End of an Error)
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To: Joe Brower

Maybe the angels knew that the demons from hell where coming to collect the souls of the hijackers and they didn’t want the demons taking any parts of the innocent passangers.


44 posted on 07/03/2012 12:45:49 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I am a born again Christian, but obviously cannot say yea or nay regarding her claim. But 2 years ago when I was informed that my Christian BFF, who I’ll just call “Bill” had died in his sleep the previous night, I heard a four-word “message” boom into my spirit somewhere down in my chest. It was so “loud” that it reverberated in my being for several days afterward. The four words were: BILL IS HOME SAFE!” I took, and still take great comfort from that experience. I look forward to seeing “Bill” again one of these days, in a BETTER place.


45 posted on 07/03/2012 12:47:43 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: Kharis13
Did I see and talk with an angel that day? I'm convinced I did.

Without question. They're here.

46 posted on 07/03/2012 12:49:30 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: dsc

True, to understand Revelation, one must understand the koran, islame and christianity are two sides of the same coin, one is good, the other evil. You should research the Dajjal of islame, he is the islamic anti-christ, I believe he is Jesus Christ returned in his crucified body. The islameists believe in Jesus, but they refer to him as Issa, they believe Issa will return to verify the mahdi, the mooslims messiah, is the true son of God, but the Dajjal will refute this, for He is. I love theology, you are right about Islame being evil, muhammad was a failed prophet, he was given a chance to be one by the angel Gabriel, but he failed to do what Gabriel asked, He wanted muhammad to tell the people to give up their idols, when muhammad returned, he compromised with the town and had them give up some of their idols, Gabriel did not take kindly to this and stated that he failed, yet muhammad and his followers continue to sew evil amongst the nations. Sad, it all goes back to Abraham’s attempted sacrifice of Issac, the mooslims believe Abraham took Ishmael, the Jews believe it was Issac, whom it was, and that’s were both sides come from, one evil and one good.


47 posted on 07/03/2012 2:20:08 PM PDT by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

anything to sell a book, she’s either a liar or a nut.


48 posted on 07/10/2012 7:30:44 PM PDT by Coleus
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