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Team Romney: No, we’re not declaring ‘cease-fire’ on Obamacare
Washington Examiner ^

Posted on 07/03/2012 12:09:58 PM PDT by Perdogg

In the days since the Supreme Court decision upholding Obamacare, some Democrats and commentators in the press have suggested that Mitt Romney is declaring a “cease-fire” on the issue and will no longer make it a centerpiece of his campaign to defeat President Obama.

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To: Alas Babylon!; bcsco; All
Can anyone find the Exact wording of the TAX on home sales and the TAX on financial transitions.

IMO if the this information is brought to the attention of the American people it will trigger another TAX Revolution!

We may need to start another Billboard campaign and skirt the MSM.

101 posted on 07/03/2012 2:27:03 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying then or now!)
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To: Altariel
Where has Diogenesis written that he/she “thinks Obama would be a better president than Romney”?

Learn to read. Here, I modified it just for you.

Here we absolutley disagree. Of course, DiogenesisAltariel will disagree with me on the supporting Obama part, but that’s what all his posting these last several months lead to. Ipso facto.

102 posted on 07/03/2012 2:27:55 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: TMA62

nail on head and which is why I don;t post too often on here anymore.


103 posted on 07/03/2012 2:28:21 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Eva

Problem is, it’s not ABO. ABO means voting for a non-conservative liberal.

You’d think most people would be fed up with this chet by now.


104 posted on 07/03/2012 2:30:29 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Cherokee Conservative

For some people, their existence depends on their ability to say, “I told you so!”


105 posted on 07/03/2012 2:31:03 PM PDT by paudio (OTP: Why do people want to rehire a mechanic who clearly only made their car worse than before?)
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To: Cherokee Conservative

Amen and spot on.


106 posted on 07/03/2012 2:34:00 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Kenny

Here’s what Romney needs to say and nothing else.

1) I don’t care if it’s a tax, mandate, or penalty. The people don’t want it. I will repeal it.

2)I dont’t care if it resembles Romneycare. I wouldn’t care if I wrote the damn bill. The people don’t want it. I will repeal it.

3) I don’t care if there are any “good parts”. The people don’t want it. I will repeal it.

I agree. Kenny for President!


107 posted on 07/03/2012 2:34:00 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: dragnet2

It is a cast in gold fact that since Reagan left, the candidates offered by the GOP have gotten more liberal with each election. We are now at the point where the GOP will have to nominate an open democrat in 2016.

But that’s OK because then the parties will be unified. /s


108 posted on 07/03/2012 2:34:22 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Perdogg

This campaign seems to be doing poorly in the messaging department.

It’s downright dumbfounding why Fehrnstrom would go on TV and step on a talking point that the GOP was raising millions over.

They should be fired. And yes, our candidate stinks too.


109 posted on 07/03/2012 2:36:22 PM PDT by CountryClassSF
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To: Diogenesis

There are alot of War Heroes.They don’t seem to be heard from.There were alot of POWs also,some never came home.McCain is nothing .


110 posted on 07/03/2012 2:38:04 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes
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To: hoosiermama

There is an explanation on many of the new ObamaTax here:

http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-new-obamacare-taxes-2012-7


111 posted on 07/03/2012 2:40:29 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Diogenesis
On an unrelated note, whatever happened to your "Gotta See This" threads? Did you retire from an MSM job or something?

That was GREAT stuff!

-PJ

112 posted on 07/03/2012 2:46:03 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Diogenesis

So Romney crammed ObamaCare through Congress and then declared it constitutional? Wow...he’s all-powerful!


113 posted on 07/03/2012 2:49:49 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Norm Lenhart
since Reagan left, the candidates offered by the GOP have gotten more liberal with each election. We are now at the point where the GOP will have to nominate an open democrat in 2016.

Absolutely....Those who ignore this, are clearly part of the problem.

114 posted on 07/03/2012 2:51:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: History Repeats

Mclame isn’t a strong conservative.


115 posted on 07/03/2012 2:51:39 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Perdogg

It’s a good thing we are going into a holiday so that this embarrassment over this message won’t be seen by many to make this campaign look as aloof as it is right now. Let’s get control of it, Mitt.

I understand they probably do want the narrative shifted back to the economy but they could have done that without also trying to downplay Obamacare.


116 posted on 07/03/2012 2:52:13 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: dragnet2

But don’t worry Drag, ‘next time’ the Republican party will nominate a strong conservative. I know this to be true because they and their lackeys said so several elections running.

But I’m sure like many a battered wife says, “This time will be different. No really...it will...”


117 posted on 07/03/2012 2:55:51 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
I said the same...These people have political battered wives syndrome...

Knocked out teeth, black eyes, lied to over and over, while their political hubbies blow the house payments on kinky bimbos, parties and limos...

How stupid are these people?

118 posted on 07/03/2012 3:03:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Extremely. These are the same people convinced that the GOP can be ‘changed from within.’ Really? Half the party leadership is gay, the other half supports them and whenever a ‘REPUBLICAN’ TEA candidate makes headway the GOP denies them support to bolster the GOP’s choice.

When someone talks 3rd party, it’s either ‘too early’ or ‘too late’ to discuss.

There is no hope for them or us as long as we associate ourselves with them.


119 posted on 07/03/2012 3:14:49 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

First time poster, long time lurker.

A man points a gun at your head, says I can either pull this trigger (Obama), or beat the crap out of you (Romney). He says if you sass him and choose something smart, you’ll get plugged regardless (a vote for 3rd party conservative strengthens Obama’s odds). In this real life application of our ploitical quandry, its apprent that anyone not up for winning a Darwin award would choose the thrashing over the gunshot to the head.. so the question is why do so many on here want the bullet, why do you feeling the bullet is better than the thrashing?


120 posted on 07/03/2012 3:16:29 PM PDT by PaulRyanUberAlles
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To: PaulRyanUberAlles

Because I’d rather die like a man than live like an unprincipled coward.


121 posted on 07/03/2012 3:18:34 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

I don’t what your simple question is, there, bud.


122 posted on 07/03/2012 3:20:36 PM PDT by Dysart (Race card is tyranny. Don't be cowed.)
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To: Dysart

You explain to me how a conservative can vote for Romney without abandoning his conservative beliefs to do so and I vow right here and now to campaign HARD for Mitt Romney on FR and everywhere else.

Further, I’ll apologize to everyone here, state I was wrong and help you get a liberal elected to the highest office in the land.

With a smile.

Deal?

This is an open invitation to you, Levin, Laura any freeper and anyone else on the planet.

You want him elected so bad? Then answer that one question honestly and factually and without resorting to “The other guy is worse” and I will devote myself to helping you.


123 posted on 07/03/2012 3:22:23 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Sometimes I think you’re absolutely right. There seems to be a Star Chamber where candidates are chosen for victory and defeat. We’ve seen some very dumb things - Perot, Dole, etc. Who didn’t realize they were throwing the race?


124 posted on 07/03/2012 3:23:14 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Cherokee Conservative

I was talking to the old black lab, Bubba, a while back.

He seemed to understand me. At least he didn’t argue.

It has become and remains a mystery to me why a site that’s supposed to be conservative spends far more time niggling around sniping at our nominee than supporting him.


125 posted on 07/03/2012 3:26:07 PM PDT by altura
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To: 1010RD

It’s like the old movie line The only way to win is not to play.

Bottom line, I don’t want 4 more of Obama either. But if we continue year after year convincing ourselves that ‘next time’ will be different/better et all, when the GOP has no intention, demonstratably, of going along, we have to stop playing the game and take the pain.

It’s going to suck but ‘change is never easy’.


126 posted on 07/03/2012 3:26:26 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: PaulRyanUberAlles
First time poster

I can tell.

BTW, the political insiders and liars beat the, "Vote for the better evil" to death in the Bush years.

The results of this never ending settle for less sham, have all but left America dead on the floor.

At the rate were going, the Republicans in 20 years will be telling ys to vote for the illegal alien with only 2 felonies...And you'll do it!

127 posted on 07/03/2012 3:27:27 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: roses of sharon
ros, let's give folks here a link to Hayes' article.

Romney isn't doing well for himself. He can call it an 'unconstitutional penalty' all he wants, but whatever he chooses to call it - it is extremely unpopular, and his own state socialized medical care is an unpopular wreck beyond belief that is costing him dearly in his attempt to become President.

128 posted on 07/03/2012 3:27:46 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: dragnet2

All the romney bashers need to explain how a conservative can allow Obama to win re-election without abandoning his conservative beliefs.

Romney is advancing multiple conservatve position well to the right of Obama - on abortion, on immigration, on marriage, on taxes, on budgets (Ryan), on Obamacare (repeal vs implement), on national security, on energy (pro-pipeline vs anti-pipeline).

It’s bizarre, there are a lot more reasons/ differences in favor of Romney vs Obama compared with Bush v Gore. Romney is running more conservative than Bush was in 2000 and Obama is the most leftist president ever.


129 posted on 07/03/2012 3:28:39 PM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Norm it does. You asked how could a conservative vote for Romney. Obama is the only answer to that question.

We’d not be having this discussion if the sitting President were a conservative would we?


130 posted on 07/03/2012 3:28:54 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: aheckle

Paranoia. He won’t need as much as he thinks. Besides, if Romney is sticking his feet in his mouth already, can’t wait until he starts shooting them too in the next four months.


131 posted on 07/03/2012 3:31:35 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are useless and useful idiots.)
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To: WOSG

Are you suggesting Romney is a conservative with a conservative history?

Yes or no?


132 posted on 07/03/2012 3:33:06 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Norm Lenhart
You explain to me how a conservative can vote for Romney without abandoning his conservative beliefs

I see. Well, you're correct in that your question is simple, but I reject its premise. One need not abandon Conservative principles at all in voting for Romney. You're looking at this wrong. If that's all that's preventing you from opposing four more years of The King, understand you can be secure in your beliefs and still vote for Romney as well as the most Conservative person running in every race you may cast a ballot in. Defeating The King will send a message to Romney that the people reject socialism and all the fixins! He'll get the message. Not opposing The King is just not acceptable. Don't make it any more complex than it is.

133 posted on 07/03/2012 3:33:25 PM PDT by Dysart (Race card is tyranny. Don't be cowed.)
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To: WOSG

Answer my question and I’ll answer yours.


134 posted on 07/03/2012 3:34:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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Wait for the pause!

lol


135 posted on 07/03/2012 3:35:08 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Dysart

So your answer to defeating liberal policies is to elect a liberal.


136 posted on 07/03/2012 3:35:32 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Perdogg
some Democrats and commentators in the press

That says it all.

We're being played by a well-timed and orchestrated divide-and-conquer disinformation campaign. And from the various threads on FR today a bunch of us fell for it. Rather than directing our anger at Obama and the Dems, we've been firing off in the wrong direction ... and on each other.

The Dems know that we don't have a lot of confidence in Mittens, and they've now shown that they know how to take advantage of it. As much as that lack of confidence may be deserved, that's between us and him/his campaign.

This sort of thing is going to happen again and again between now and November. Because it works. We have to figure out a way to hold Mittens feet to the fire, but without caving in to petty Dem manipulation tactics.
137 posted on 07/03/2012 3:35:59 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Dysart
Well, you're correct in that your question is simple, but I reject its premise

A Supreme Court response!

I like it!

138 posted on 07/03/2012 3:36:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: WOSG

Are you suggesting Romney is a conservative with a conservative history?

Yes or no?

Well?


139 posted on 07/03/2012 3:37:43 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 1010RD

If we stopped electing liberal republicans 20 years ago, we’d have a conservative president now. So if we stop electing liberal republicans now, we might have a chance of electing a conservative one eventually. If we keep electing libs and playing the GOP musical chairs game, we never will.


140 posted on 07/03/2012 3:39:01 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Alas Babylon!

I read just fine; I challenged your claim, and you have failed to back it up.

Let me remind you of your own sentence:

“However, I think Romney would be better a much President than Obama, and Diogenesis thinks Obama would be a better president than Romney.”

Where has Diogenesis written that he/she “thinks Obama would be a better president than Romney”?

Provide the actual quote(s), from him/her to support this accusation.


141 posted on 07/03/2012 3:40:03 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: dragnet2

We should get them a job instructing at the Juliard School for dance.


142 posted on 07/03/2012 3:40:38 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Ya ask them simple questions like that, and they run for the tall grass.


143 posted on 07/03/2012 3:43:01 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Kenny
Here’s what Romney needs to say and nothing else.

1) I don’t care if it’s a tax, mandate, or penalty. The people don’t want it. I will repeal it.

2)I dont’t care if it resembles Romneycare. I wouldn’t care if I wrote the damn bill. The people don’t want it. I will repeal it.

3) I don’t care if there are any “good parts”. The people don’t want it. I will repeal it.

Excellent idea. This is one of the reasons I get ALL my news and commentary from FR, because of the excellent ideas and suggestions I read here.

I can only hope someone with some say in the campaign reads this.

144 posted on 07/03/2012 3:43:06 PM PDT by samtheman (The Trillion Dollar ObamaCareTax definitely is a tax; just ask the US Supreme Court.)
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To: dragnet2

This ‘I reject your premise’ crap is pathetic. The logic is rock solid and only a fool would deny it.


145 posted on 07/03/2012 3:46:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: samtheman; Kenny
Here’s what Romney needs to say and nothing else.

I can only hope someone with some say in the campaign reads this.

Call Romney's cell phone# and tell him, quickly!

146 posted on 07/03/2012 3:48:20 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Perdogg

Mittens is a flip-flopping, liberal liar. He’s got the character and integrity of a worm. No deal.


147 posted on 07/03/2012 3:49:39 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: dragnet2
A Supreme Court response! I like it!

Thank you. Justice Scalia is a hero of mine, but you're far too kind.

148 posted on 07/03/2012 3:49:57 PM PDT by Dysart (Race card is tyranny. Don't be cowed.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
So your answer to defeating liberal policies is to elect a liberal.

Well, would you prefer a Marxist bent on enslaving you and confiscating your wealth while spreading it around to every third world country on the planet? You know, just to be "fair" and all. Those are among his most cherished aspirations.

It's almost if some of ya'll have nothing to lose and you want to expedite everyone's ruin.

149 posted on 07/03/2012 3:51:45 PM PDT by Dysart (Race card is tyranny. Don't be cowed.)
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To: Dysart

I reject your premise.


150 posted on 07/03/2012 3:52:42 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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