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McChrystal: Time to bring back the draft
Foreign Policy ^ | July 3, 2012 | Josh Rogin

Posted on 07/05/2012 11:51:33 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the former top commander of international forces in Afghanistan, said this week that the United States should bring back the draft if it ever goes to war again.

"I think we ought to have a draft. I think if a nation goes to war, it shouldn't be solely be represented by a professional force, because it gets to be unrepresentative of the population," McChrystal said at a late-night event June 29 at the 2012 Aspen Ideas Festival. "I think if a nation goes to war, every town, every city needs to be at risk. You make that decision and everybody has skin in the game."

He argued that the burdens of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan haven't been properly shared across the U.S. population, and emphasized that the U.S. military could train draftees so that there wouldn't be a loss of effectiveness in the war effort.

"I've enjoyed the benefits of a professional service, but I think we'd be better if we actually went to a draft these days," he said. "There would some loss of professionalism, but for the nation it would be a better course."

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To: Timber Rattler
So I suggest that the problem is not a volunteer military, but the lack of will of our political leaders to WIN, and the crippling rules of engagement that they impose on our service people, thereby extending the GWOT and stressing the force.

Exactamundo. As a Nam Vet I also witnessed the problems associated witht the draft during the 60's and 70's though I was a volunteer.

Gen McCrystal (though no doubt under orders) was responsible for enforcing the INANE and INSANE, ROE's in Afghan.

And for those who tout Gen Patreus as a VP Candidate, he actually made them worst when he took command.

BOTH a pair of clueless, idiots who were enamored with "Hearts and Minds" and "Nation Building" thru a so called "Counterinsurgency" policy which has caused numerous, casualties of our Brave Warriors.

And I thought the ROE's during Nam were bad and crazy; they pale in comparison to what our Military is forced to operate under in Afghan.

SEE: Thomas D. Segel
Rules of Engagement & Other Stupid Decisions September 14, 2009

By now you have heard the story. Taliban insurgents ambushed a 13-man team of U.S. Marine and Army advisors assigned to the Afghan National Army as they approached a small hamlet. Repeatedly the Marines called for artillery support that was denied by their commanders and helicopter gunship support that took more than one hour to arrive. The refused support and slow air response caused the unit to suffer eight Afghan soldiers, one interpreter and four Marines to be killed in action.

The uproar across the military community has been deafening and the NATO commanded forces are now investigating why commanding officers rejected repeated calls for artillery fire. They are also looking into the reason why close air support that was supposed to be no more than five minutes away took more than one hour to reach the scene of the battle.

Far be it for me to claim I am some kind of Warfighting Strategist. However, it doesn’t take the military intellect of a Patton to understand dumb decisions or political pontification. That being said, I have no reason to believe the current Rules of Engagement (ROE) in Afghanistan originated with those commanders on the ground who are actually engaged in the fighting.

The Rules of Engagement now in effect in that war zone are designed to appease the faint hearted rather than win a war. Are they wrong headed? Yes! Are they tailored in such a way they will harm our troops in the field? We have the bodies of four gallant young Marines along with eight national army dead to prove just how wrong the ROE is for Americans and its allies.

According to military spokesmen, the ROE has been tailored to soften the possibility of civilian casualties. General Stanley McChrystal issued the new ROE restrictions on the use of military force to reduce the risk of further alienating the population, they say.

Colonel Wayne Morris, USMC (Ret) served in the very volatile areas of Kandahar and Helmand through half of 2006 and all of 2008 as an advisor to the Afghan National Army. He says, "With the current ROE in effect, I seriously doubt we will ever get the stabilized level wherein we can turn the tables on the Taliban.” He feels we need to eliminate enough insurgents nor at least neutralize their ability to influence action across a wide area, for any stabilized condition to develop.

Regardless of the war we were fighting, instead of allowing our military experts to determine how we engage in combat, political decision makers, almost from the time the first shots were fired in anger, have restricted those who wear the uniform of our country. In just about every case, politicians created those horrible unintended consequences that resulted in loss of the battle, the loss of victory, and sadly, the loss of American lives. The most heartbreaking example of that political decision-making is the disastrous finale to Vietnam, triggered by our capitulation and withdrawal.

As an infantry Corporal in Korea, I screamed at anyone who would listen as we repeatedly fought our way to strategic high ground, only to withdraw and be forced to take the same real estate over and over again. One of the basic rules of battle is to seize the high ground...and hold it.

On another tour of duty, in Saigon everyone wore helmets and carried weapons to and from their various duty assignments. Military personnel were also allowed to wander the streets of that city freely during off duty hours but it was a court marshal offense to carry a weapon. Try to figure the logic of that rule.

As an advisor during the early days of Vietnam we were not even allowed to wear our uniforms or fly the American Flag. At night, on perimeter duty the Marines were not allowed to have ammunition in their weapons. It was locked up in an ammo bunker and one officer had the key. If we were fired upon, the ROE called for him to then open the bunker and issue us ammunition. Those rules seem silly in print, but were very serious to those of us who guarded the compound in the dark of night. Our uniform thought was...”What happens if that first incoming round gets the ammo officer or hits the bunker?” This would have been another example of unintended consequences all military personnel face because of wrong-headed ROE. (It is also true that we ignored those ROE and kept a hidden supply of ammunition on our persons.)

Returning to the words of Colonel Morris, "Tying our Warfighter’s hands behind their backs is past unsatisfactory...it’s criminal! I am not saying we should allow our Coalition Forces to move about freely killing everything in their path, but they must be allowed the leeway to take appropriate, decisive offensive or defensive actions when dealing with insurgents. Not only that, there are a lot of good Afghans who see our approach in dealing with the Taliban as being ‘weak’. That makes many people over there think the Talibs are stronger...not in all cases, but as you well know, perceptions are damning.”

He claims the Rules of Engagement have favored the enemy since our involvement after 9-11. He feels we would have captured or killed Osama Bin Laden if our special operators had been allowed to take him down. He claims the ROE is even more restrictive now than it was early in the war.

The colonel feels the lack of supporting arms have been a major problem from the very start of operations. "With the exception of USMC and some Army forces now operating in Afghanistan, the other Coalition Force partner nations simply don’t have adequate supporting arms available to them.” He tells of times in Helmand Province when only two armed helicopters (and on a good day four) were available for the entire province.

So, as it has always been, the politicians and the political military leaders continue to make decisions and Rules of Engagement that must be followed by Warfighters on the ground. And, as it always has been, those same military men and women continue to fight two enemies. Today it is the Taliban, but forever it has been the politicians who though complete ignorance cost us victory after victory...and far too many American lives.

51 posted on 07/05/2012 12:35:44 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: Timber Rattler

The military is not about “diversity”, it’s about breaking things and delivering ordnance on target. I’ve been a military officer, and I didn’t want unwilling draftees serving under me. I wanted and still want a professional all-volunteer force. I don’t know why McChrystal would say something this stupid, but I hope sensible people and our Congresscritters will ignore him completely.


52 posted on 07/05/2012 12:35:56 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Gaffer

I agree with you that in past conflicts the white casualty rate is significantly higher. However, the cause du jour for the race baiters is to complain about blacks and hispanics being over-represented in the armed forces compared to whites.


53 posted on 07/05/2012 12:37:48 PM PDT by nhoward14
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To: Timber Rattler
I think if a nation goes to war, it shouldn't be solely be represented by a professional force

yeah, and when the US goes to war the goal to win it should be part of the equation.

54 posted on 07/05/2012 12:38:39 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: jrd

Before Dece,ber 2010, I would have agreed with your statement. Now, noway not with all the sodomites


55 posted on 07/05/2012 12:39:41 PM PDT by scbison
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To: Timber Rattler

Maybe if we had a Constitutional government it’d be easier to get volunteers to protect it?


56 posted on 07/05/2012 12:40:09 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Timber Rattler

The draft would be fine if all able bodied men (and now women) were to serve with NO exceptions. During Nam college boys, married guys and guys with connections avoided service.


57 posted on 07/05/2012 12:40:35 PM PDT by kenmcg (t)
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To: ZULU

Those clowns would’ve made good cannon fodder in WWI.


58 posted on 07/05/2012 12:41:18 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: Conservaliberty

Why would they, if you draft every able body male person out of high school, would you even need women?


59 posted on 07/05/2012 12:41:27 PM PDT by scbison
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To: jrd
I think when you graduate from high school everyone should enter the military and spend at least two years. I also thing that all officers should have to serve time as and enlisted person.

I agree with both statements. The second is a major problem. We used to call 2nd LTs "90 day wonders", and they had no clue what leadership involves, other than being a dog. You keep kicking a dog, and it will eventually get tired and go fetch the stick.

60 posted on 07/05/2012 12:45:19 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: OldMissileer

Islamists are WAY over-represented (should be zer0).


61 posted on 07/05/2012 12:45:45 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: rarestia
I think he’s complaining about the over representation of blacks and Hispanics in the armed forces. He’s not explicitly wrong.

Actually, whites and blacks are barely overrepresented. The biggest over/under representation is by region. The South produces far more people who enlist in the military than any other region and the Northeast is the lowest.


62 posted on 07/05/2012 12:46:31 PM PDT by kabar
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To: jrd

I am in 100% agreement with you.


63 posted on 07/05/2012 12:46:55 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
We no longer enter wars to win.

Not sure I even want this abortionist, homosexualist country to "win". But then all the potential opponents are no better, in one manner or another. Glad I'll be gone soon, all I can do is pray for the grandkids.

64 posted on 07/05/2012 12:48:43 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: xone

why not? are they some how better?


65 posted on 07/05/2012 12:49:17 PM PDT by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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To: Timber Rattler
"I think if a nation goes to war, it shouldn't be solely be represented by a professional force, because it gets to be unrepresentative of the population."

General, what is the objective in any war?

No wonder this moron was fired.

66 posted on 07/05/2012 12:50:18 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: kabar

I think this bodes well should CWII ever erupt. The majority of recruits would deign to fire on their own people since you know damn well the POTUS would start with the south being that we represent the largest contingent of gun owners in the nation.

This is great information, thank you Kabar!


67 posted on 07/05/2012 12:50:48 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Just thinking out loud.

A Christian gets inducted into the Armed Forces and is now compelled to accept the homo lifestyle. Sharing barracks and showers with them.

I know, there are homos at work, but we are not forced to live with them after work hours.


68 posted on 07/05/2012 12:50:49 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Blue Ink

Whatever you call it,a country that enslaves its citizens for military or any other service,is not FREE.


69 posted on 07/05/2012 12:51:40 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: xone

make it four then


70 posted on 07/05/2012 12:52:11 PM PDT by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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To: nhoward14

They may be over represented in the military, but that does not equate to experiencing disproportately higher casualties. If you search the web, you can judge for yourself...I believe they do not.


71 posted on 07/05/2012 12:52:59 PM PDT by Gaffer (NOVEMBER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: kabar

It’s interesting that ID and NV are high and UT is low.


72 posted on 07/05/2012 12:54:14 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Timber Rattler

I will not allow my child to be drafted into military service so he can become cannon fodder for a resident such as we have presently.

I’m pro-military but our nation’s dead and its constitution has died long before that.I see No need to waste the lives of anyone under the leadership of a communist _Resident.


73 posted on 07/05/2012 12:54:45 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Conservaliberty
If they are not the feminist lobby would go berserk.

I disagree.

The feminist lobby is a bunch of anti-american cowards.

74 posted on 07/05/2012 12:55:21 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: rarestia
Overrepresentation? I think not.
75 posted on 07/05/2012 12:55:44 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: ScottinVA

I’d leave to country before joining the pro gay military. Sorry but I would not have said this a year ago.


76 posted on 07/05/2012 12:58:58 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: rarestia

He is not wrong...however, representation by racial and ethnic group as members of the military does not equate to the same casualty rate experienced by same. Google WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War, Iraq and Afghanistan and I think you’ll find that if you look beyond just the percentages of member groups to the casualty rates, you’ll find that their experience rates are less than their member representative rates. The truth gets obscured when various groups (of ethnic or racial persuasion) try to muddy the waters with the member rates and gloss over the casualty rates.


77 posted on 07/05/2012 1:00:58 PM PDT by Gaffer (NOVEMBER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: BenLurkin

Obama cannot be trusted to care about our young people ,with the use of our military for UN agenda, not calling Fort Hood shooting - terrorism and by- passing congress for war ,a draft fits with his callousness


78 posted on 07/05/2012 1:03:24 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: HarleyD
He’s probably worried about the gays in the military.

Precisely!

If there's a draft, I'll do all I can to send junior out of country so he doesn't have to be part of the social petri dish that's masquerading as our military.

I become ill to my stomach when I think what's happened to this great institution, one that saw family members (past and present) serve from the Civil War to Desert Storm.

FUBO!

79 posted on 07/05/2012 1:05:15 PM PDT by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness (Eenie meanie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak....)
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To: Timber Rattler
I think if a nation goes to war, it shouldn't be solely be represented by a professional force, because it gets to be unrepresentative of the population,"

I keep forgetting that defending the US is no longer the sole item on the agenda of the US military - it's also there to make political statements, represent special interests and serve as a mandatory customer of ruinously expensive biofuels.
80 posted on 07/05/2012 1:10:14 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Gaffer
How many African-American soldiers died in World War 2?

According to Warfare and Armed Conflicts- A Statistical Reference to Casualty and Other Figures, during World War Two 1.2 million African Americans served in the U.S. Armed Forces and 708 were killed in combat.

81 posted on 07/05/2012 1:10:56 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Paladin2

Mormon nen go on their two year mission for the church. I guess that accounts for the low participation rate.


82 posted on 07/05/2012 1:18:30 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Jeff Chandler

That is a good book and in it he talks about how isolated the Legions are becoming. Most of them are coming out of families who served and from certain demographics. Any more if you didn’t have a dad or uncle in the service, you are not likely to join.


83 posted on 07/05/2012 1:18:42 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: ZULU

“Next time you are in line at Walmart, think about that McChrystal as you survey the young guys with the tatooed arms and legs, nose rings, Mohawk haircuts, eyebrow jewelry and tongue pins.

They might fit in pretty well with an army of Huns or Goths based on appearance, but when the chips are down, they Huns or Goths would kick their sorry butts out of the camp or cut their heads off.”

Note that what we call Huns are from a place now Muslim. Muslims have a use for WalMartians. Dancing Wal Martians could compete with Bacca Bazzi (sp).

And, Walmart could sell the antibiotics which would be needed afterwards.


84 posted on 07/05/2012 1:18:56 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Timber Rattler

It wasn’t a bad draft. It was a bad war.

If we had a draft looming, the colleges would be on fire, and we would not be so quick to send kids to the ME.

I am not in favor of returning to the draft, but if we need it—use it.


85 posted on 07/05/2012 1:22:48 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: kabar

There is no shortage of Mormons in NV nor ID and there are plenty of Hispanics in SLC.


86 posted on 07/05/2012 1:23:03 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

very low percentage of Mormons in the military due to their missionary service and high marriage rates. Married men are not your normal recruits.


87 posted on 07/05/2012 1:25:38 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: ScottinVA
An interesting point. I wonder how attractive the armed forces will look to men from the traditional rural and small city and town areas that produce a disproportionate number of the current volunteers when the new ‘queers as a protected class’, anti-traditional Christian, politically correct nation building national police force model armed forces becomes well established in 5-10 years. I suspect McCrystal made this statement as a way to try and curry favor with the political class so he can get some sort of well compensated post retirement position with a think tank or contractor. The political class have marginalized him because some of his staff spoke the obvious truth about the mental midget from Delaware that is the VP to a Rolling Stone troll. That being so this statement is being read by a former big general to try and get some traction for this idea. In reality it is another left lib scheme to first turn the armed forces into a sort of queer friendly national police and then figure out a way to fill the ranks with enough angry maladaptive and unwilling types such as can be seen any Saturday at your local Mall. The armed forces they will create might be seriously compromised in real combat but be very good at terrorizing US citizens. The libs really do want some sort of force they think can be used at some time against middle class mostly white Americans who they truly hate and fear due to widespread gun ownership. With the army of queers and angry guys plus lots of semi fed cops giving middle class whitey what he deserves becomes possible to the evil and twisted people at the heart of lib land.
88 posted on 07/05/2012 1:27:43 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Arrowhead1952

I think that is why a lot of them died from “Friendly Fire”


89 posted on 07/05/2012 1:28:35 PM PDT by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

I tend to agree with no universal service nor conscription except for the offspring of all Presidents, their Cabinets, all members of Congress and all senior DOD officers.


90 posted on 07/05/2012 1:29:30 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Timber Rattler
generali mcpoofter can bow up and kiss my arse... on second thought... I have no idea where his lips have been!

LLS

91 posted on 07/05/2012 1:30:44 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Timber Rattler

I’d agree, except the objective the military is to WIN! And the volunteer forces are amazing! Can you imagine a bunch of conscripts trying to carry their march load, while wearing body armor, in the heat, and at altitude?


92 posted on 07/05/2012 1:31:42 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Paladin2

No one said there was a shortage of Mormons in NV and ID, but I bet that there is a higher percentage of Mormons in UT than anywhere else.


93 posted on 07/05/2012 1:32:01 PM PDT by kabar
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To: All; Timber Rattler
Did we win WWII with draftees or a professional military? WWI? Civil War?

Do not let Vietnam cloud everything. That's what the Left has done since the 60s. For them every armed conflict is a quagmire.

I say, fine, we can bring back the draft but we must have females registering for Selective Service as well, in the name of equality and all that.

94 posted on 07/05/2012 1:33:49 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Timber Rattler
Let's not forget this knothead general voted for Obama. That act alone lays bare his poor judgment. Anything else he has to say for the remainder of his life is discounted.
95 posted on 07/05/2012 1:34:20 PM PDT by twister881
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To: Timber Rattler

They probably see the decline in young hetro men signing up for service and know that their pro-gay policies have chased away those who actually do the job the military needs done. So to allow them cover for their foolishness in pushing the gay agenda in our military they know they must bring back the draft or the military will consist of nothing but homosexuals who treat it like a big bath house of fun.

We need to have some generals with balls who tell the government that the military is not a social experiment where they can try such destructive things as gays openly serving or for that matter women in the front line.

The military is there for very simple reasons. To blow stuff up, to kill people and to win for our Republic.

It’s not a place to play or express your feelings and most certainly not a place to prance about and display your sexual perversions.


96 posted on 07/05/2012 1:37:54 PM PDT by History Repeats (Drink plenty of TEA, but avoid the Koolaid.)
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To: BenLurkin
Not asinine at all. It's easy to send someone else's son to war, not so easy to send your own.

And when war comes, it's too late to call for volunteers or even draftees to be trained.

97 posted on 07/05/2012 1:41:08 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: Tallguy

I was at civil war reenactment thing in Charleston recently and one of the participants went through that very thing.

He was a marine artie along with a lot of his unit got to foot patrols and the like.


98 posted on 07/05/2012 1:47:17 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Tallguy

I was at civil war reenactment thing in Charleston recently and one of the participants went through that very thing.

He was a marine artie along with a lot of his unit got to foot patrols and the like.


99 posted on 07/05/2012 1:47:36 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Tallguy

I was at civil war reenactment thing in Charleston recently and one of the participants went through that very thing.

He was a marine artie along with a lot of his unit got to foot patrols and the like.


100 posted on 07/05/2012 1:48:03 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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