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Rich Hispanic Exec Wants to Eradicate The Term ‘Illegal Immigrant’
breitbart.com ^ | 7/5/12 | William Bigelow

Posted on 07/05/2012 3:36:49 PM PDT by Justaham

A wealthy Hispanic executive who makes a fortune dealing with the Hispanic market is on the march to eradicate the term “illegal immigrant.” Charles Patrick Garcia, writing on the CNN website, lauds the U.S. Supreme Court for eschewing the use of “illegal immigrant” and instead utilizing the term “removable alien.”

Garcia writes:

The court's nonjudgmental language established a humanistic approach to our current restructuring of immigration policy.

When you label someone an "illegal alien" or "illegal immigrant" or just plain "illegal," you are effectively saying the individual, as opposed to the actions the person has taken, is unlawful. The terms imply the very existence of an unauthorized migrant in America is criminal. In this country, there is still a presumption of innocence that requires a jury to convict someone of a crime. If you don't pay your taxes, are you an illegal? What if you get a speeding ticket? A murder conviction? No. You're still not an illegal. Even alleged terrorists and child molesters aren't labeled illegals.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalimmigrant
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1 posted on 07/05/2012 3:36:59 PM PDT by Justaham
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To: Justaham

You know your nation is already done when you read stuff like this.


2 posted on 07/05/2012 3:39:04 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Justaham

Just shoot me now...we are done.

Third world country here we come!

Courtesy of the ignorant electorate and MSM...

UGH!!!!!


3 posted on 07/05/2012 3:39:33 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes mandatory- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Justaham

Wants to Eradicate The Term ‘Illegal Immigrant’


Me too, by sealing the borders and giving out huge fines, and possibly jail time, for anyone who hires illegals.
This way NO illegals would remain in America and we would NEVER have to speak of them again!!!


4 posted on 07/05/2012 3:41:21 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the StatistI)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

I read it and honestly tried to make some sense out of it. It’s all just bable to try and confuse the issue.


5 posted on 07/05/2012 3:42:16 PM PDT by RC2 (Buy American and support the Wounded Warrior Project whenever possible.)
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To: Justaham

6 posted on 07/05/2012 3:42:16 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: Justaham

OK, then start calling ‘em “Alleged Illegal Aliens”...and allegation needs a court hearing....take it to court and then we’ll find out if they did the crime of being an illegal alien.

Alleged criminals need processing - start processing them!


9 posted on 07/05/2012 3:45:45 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Justaham

Personally, I support this lawyer 1000%! I would NEVER use the term “illegal immigrant”; that is blatantly ignorant. I prefer to use the term “illegal alien”, as that succinctly and perfectly describes one who snuck into this country illegally and is an ‘alien’ with respect to citizenship status.


10 posted on 07/05/2012 3:46:17 PM PDT by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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To: Tzar

How about ‘wetbacks!”


11 posted on 07/05/2012 3:46:34 PM PDT by Justaham
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To: Justaham

They are here from another nation illegally; thus they are “Illegal Aliens!” The left ivariably plays with words. The illegal remains here because the Euro American who made this country have become sick, have lost their confidence, their vision and are leaderless. The argument that the invader is our equal, legally, culturally, intellectually and morally has been accepted.


12 posted on 07/05/2012 3:47:51 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Justaham

I agree with Chuck.I’ve always preferred wet.....nope,not gonna do it.Don’t want to be banned!


13 posted on 07/05/2012 3:48:05 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: Justaham
How about:

Undocumented Democrat


14 posted on 07/05/2012 3:50:31 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I miss Harriet Miers.)
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To: Justaham
On second thought there's a label I like even more:

FEDERAL FELON


15 posted on 07/05/2012 3:50:57 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: Justaham
foreign invader
16 posted on 07/05/2012 3:50:57 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: Justaham
Removable alien is what they are when our search teams have to rescue their rotting bodies in bags from our hot Arizona desert. Doesn't matter if the bodies belonged to men, women, or children. There are sub-classifications. One is, Removable alien murdered by a Mexican cartel operative. Another is Removable alien who died of heatstroke while trying the cross the desert.. All categories have an additional cneck-box for the annotation: Deaths enabled by Progressive Democrats and Bleeding Heart Mexicans, damn them all.
17 posted on 07/05/2012 3:51:50 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: Justaham
What do the call them in Ole Mehico?

Corpses?

18 posted on 07/05/2012 3:55:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Justaham

Get rid of “Illegal Imigrant: term?
Not a problem.
Alien Invaders.
Wet Backs.
Illegal Invaders.

or how about Union Job Takers.


19 posted on 07/05/2012 3:56:47 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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To: Justaham

Like the phrase ‘Illegal Immigrant’ isn’t already a lie.

One cannot be an immigrant if one is here illegally.

The correct term is ‘illegal alien’.


20 posted on 07/05/2012 3:57:33 PM PDT by donna (Mitt quote: ...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way...)
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To: Justaham
then spend all your money trying to repeal the first amendment - until then - i’ll call them whatever i want

why is it these idiot fools from the failed sewer of mexico lecture a successful country on what we should do?

why do people in this country care what these fools want?

when mexico advances to indoor plumbing - and stops pissing in the water they drink - maybe i’ll listen - until then - stfu

21 posted on 07/05/2012 3:58:51 PM PDT by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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To: Justaham

I only *wish* they were removable.


22 posted on 07/05/2012 3:59:11 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: Justaham
The terms imply the very existence of an unauthorized migrant in America is criminal.

Exactly. Why is it so hard for this otherwise intelligent man to understand that.

23 posted on 07/05/2012 4:00:18 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Your character is your fate.....fortune cookie)
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To: Justaham

“How about ‘wetbacks!””

I refer to them as “Gobacks” as in Go Back to where you slithered in from.


24 posted on 07/05/2012 4:04:28 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: oldbrowser
Unlawful alien - criminal - invader - POS - unapprehended deportees
25 posted on 07/05/2012 4:04:51 PM PDT by lag along
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To: oldbrowser
Unlawful alien - criminal - invader - POS - unapprehended deportees
26 posted on 07/05/2012 4:05:01 PM PDT by lag along
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To: Justaham
When you label someone an "illegal alien" or "illegal immigrant" or just plain "illegal," you are effectively saying the individual, as opposed to the actions the person has taken, is unlawful.

Nonsense, illegal is an adjective in those terms and clearly defines the actions of the person. The person is an illegal alien because he's not a legal resident or citizen of the US. That does not say the person is an illegal person, only his presence in the US is illegal.

The same with illegal immigrant. The person's act of migrating into the US was illegal, which does not make anyone an illegal person.

And saying someone is an illegal, in a discussion of illegal aliens, is merely using a shortened term in a correct context.

This is all a lot of whiny nonsense, which doesn't mean it won't get lots of attention in the MSM as if it's some great, noble cause.

28 posted on 07/05/2012 4:07:07 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Justaham

How about ‘enemy invaders’?


29 posted on 07/05/2012 4:07:56 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Justaham

Me too! Deport every last one of them and seal the border.... no more need for the term.


30 posted on 07/05/2012 4:16:55 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Stormdog
I refer to them as “Gobacks” as in Go Back to where you slithered in from.

Bwahahahaha!
31 posted on 07/05/2012 4:18:20 PM PDT by Justaham
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To: Justaham

Apparently we should call them “Macho Men”.


32 posted on 07/05/2012 4:26:56 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

It’s what’s expected after people like Bush made American citizenship all but pointless.

America is an immigration dumping ground.


33 posted on 07/05/2012 4:35:54 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Justaham
This particular issue ~ modifying "immigrant" with "illegal" occurs only in Spanish.

In English the subject is "illegal alien", not "illegal immigrant" ~ since everybody knows you have to have an immigration visa to be an immigrant. If you don't have one and you don't have any kind of other visa, then you are simply an "illegal entrant" or "illegal alien", and both phrases are treated as nouns ~ reading "noun phrase" and "non clause" is in order.

The man's arguments in English are total nonsense. In Spanish they might make more sense simply due to the need to make subject and adjective agree with common suffixes.

English is far more flexible than Spanish. Time this illegal alien learns that!

34 posted on 07/05/2012 4:36:25 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Justaham

I prefer to call them alien invaders. Immigrants would have crossed our border and entered into U. S. territory openly AND legally.


35 posted on 07/05/2012 4:59:40 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Justaham

Deport them all and build the fence, then we’ll never mention them again.


36 posted on 07/05/2012 5:02:28 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Justaham
"A wealthy Hispanic executive who makes a fortune dealing with the Hispanic market is on the march to eradicate the term “illegal immigrant.”

Me too.

I always thought "wetback" worked just fine...

37 posted on 07/05/2012 5:06:32 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Justaham
Rich Hispanic Exec Wants to Eradicate The Term ‘Illegal Immigrant’

Let's also eradicate the terms or "murder" and "rape".

I guess the NEW belief is that if you pretend it doesn't exist that it will just fade away while everyone is watching "dancing with the stars".

38 posted on 07/05/2012 5:06:58 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

He must be Geraldo’s best friend!


39 posted on 07/05/2012 5:08:58 PM PDT by teeker
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To: Justaham

Nope it is a correct adjective to describe what kind of immigrant is being discussed.

It’s just trying to control the language. So we must never stop using the term.


40 posted on 07/05/2012 5:09:26 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Justaham

Change it from illegal alien to illegal alien criminal scum.


41 posted on 07/05/2012 5:21:28 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: Justaham

How about Dead Illegal Alian?


42 posted on 07/05/2012 6:13:51 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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Oh, I agree.

Let’s just go back to calling them “Wet-Back’s”!

Illegal alien is too PC for me.
“Undocumented immigrant” just makes my blood boil.

My “Immigration Reform” is simple, just strictly enforce the existing law, regardless of “Race” or country of origin.
Deport EVERY illegal alien invading POS.


43 posted on 07/05/2012 6:14:21 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: Gay State Conservative

Why not?
Free speech requires that you not be afraid to speak freely.

Any right voluntarily surrendered is a right lost.


44 posted on 07/05/2012 6:17:57 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: Justaham

To some, illegal might mean sick bird. To me, illegal means not legal. It’s not complicated.


45 posted on 07/05/2012 6:20:01 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: Justaham

I’d like the term eradicated also. Wetback is the proper name


46 posted on 07/05/2012 6:41:55 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Loyal Sedition
Why not? Free speech requires that you not be afraid to speak freely.Any right voluntarily surrendered is a right lost.

I assume you're referring to post #13.I don't have full freedom of speech here because "the management" reserves the right to delete my posts and ban me for what they consider repeated violations or an egregious violation of their rules.But they're not "the government" so I guess it could be said that I have no Fifth Amendment rights here.

47 posted on 07/05/2012 6:48:01 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: Justaham
If Charles Patrick Garcia will spend his money keeping illegals OUT of our country we won't have to call them anything... That's the answer. Figure out a way to keep them in their own countries...
48 posted on 07/05/2012 6:49:32 PM PDT by GOPJ (Speak truth to lies and ignorance. Speak honest to corruption . Stand up to liberal elite liars..)
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Fine, from now on they can all be determined to be ILLEGAL ALIENS!

Not immigrants, visitors, cons, anchors, etc, just ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!

49 posted on 07/05/2012 6:53:46 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Loyal Sedition
Fifth Amendment?? Yikes,I must have my long criminal history on my mind! ;-)

First Amendment!

50 posted on 07/05/2012 6:55:23 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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