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Posted on 07/06/2012 9:55:53 AM PDT by 56newblog

Subject: YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY RATE IN 2014 - OBAMACARE.

Look clearly at the 2014 rate compared to the 2013 rate.

For those of you who are on Medicare, read the following. It's short, but important and you probably haven't heard about it in the Mainstream News:

"The per person Medicare Insurance Premium will increase from the present monthly Fee of

$96.40, rising to:

$104.20 in 2012

$120.20 in 2013

And

$247.00 in 2014."

These are Provisions incorporated in the Obamacare Legislation, purposely delayed so as not to confuse the 2012 Re-Election

Freeper's who have read some of the Obamacare HC provisions - Please post here one detail at a time so many will know what is there! I am one one of those idiots who did not prepare properly for retirement so that $100+/mo Medicare jump will effect me.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: vanity

1 posted on 07/06/2012 9:55:56 AM PDT by 56newblog
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To: 56newblog

I am thankfully young and have no debt, so while this will hurt me from a discretionary spending standpoint, my bills will still be paid.

That’s the crux of the problem with this: people don’t understand what’s happened until it starts to affect their paychecks. Businesses will shutter due to a lack of business, because people are paying everything out for the illusion of “free” healthcare, when in reality, they are being herded into the stables for slaughter the closer they are to age 65.

Good night, America.


2 posted on 07/06/2012 9:59:01 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

they are being herded into the stables for slaughter the closer they are to age 65.

Thank you for your encouraging word.
We are in our mid-sixties.
We are not stupid.
We see what’s coming.
It’s a wonderful thing to have lived responsibly, have almost no debt, and be very ordinary middle class...
and not know if we are better off retiring or working ‘til we drop and paying hellish taxes.


3 posted on 07/06/2012 10:05:00 AM PDT by WestwardHo
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To: 56newblog

FALSE
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/medicare.asp


4 posted on 07/06/2012 10:07:25 AM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: navysealdad

snopes is a Soros shill site

we no longer cite it here


5 posted on 07/06/2012 10:11:33 AM PDT by Mr. K (OBAMA MUST BE STOPPED ROMNEY/GINGRICH)
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To: Mr. K
Snopes is run by a bunch of libs, but I have yet to see anyone demonstrate that it is untrue. If Snopes says it's false, there is a very high probability that it is false.
6 posted on 07/06/2012 10:16:19 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 56newblog

Something hidden within Obamacare is the fact that they’re “stealing” half a billion dollars from medicare, and then counting that “new found money” against the cost of Obamacare, in effect, double counting that half billion to reduce the apparent cost of Obamacare.

But yes, calling this the “Affordable Care Act” is, as Orwell described in “1984,” “newspeak.”

Personally, I’m tired of those in Washington pissing down my back and telling me it’s raining.

Mark


7 posted on 07/06/2012 10:17:26 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: navysealdad
I'm not saying Snopes is right or wrong on this matter BUT SNOPES IS A CROCK OF CRAP ON SO MANY ISSUES OR FACTS HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH 0BAMA. They also say 0bama's birth certificate is real, and they frame their justifications regarding it's authenticity in a deceptive manner.

It is a mistake to consult Snopes on ANY issue having to do with 0bama. They are a shill for 0bama!

8 posted on 07/06/2012 10:19:05 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: 1rudeboy

Why do you give Snopes credibility? They are damaging because so many people subscribe to their lies as they provide cover for 0bama. I personally can disprove them on many of their claims regarding 0bama.


9 posted on 07/06/2012 10:22:51 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I have never seen even ONE article on Snopes that cuts down anything to do with Obama. He is apparently their G-D! He can do NO wrong in the eyes of SNOPES.


10 posted on 07/06/2012 10:24:50 AM PDT by yorkie
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Go right ahead. I’m here all day.


11 posted on 07/06/2012 10:24:59 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 56newblog

That’s a 60% increase in premiums. So those on SS will have to cut elsewhere.

Know anything about the VA? I expect VA hospitals to start taking non-vet patients and they will probably even raise the means test level.


12 posted on 07/06/2012 10:29:37 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Baloney! Notice that snopes does not refer to Obamacare but to a report from trustees (bureaucrats) within the Social Security Administration. They did not address the Obamacare numbers probably, because like most everyone else, including our Congress, they have not read it. This escalating cost for Medicare may not be true, but they dodged the question by not addressing what numbers are in Obamacare. The snopes people are real wordsmiths for sure.


13 posted on 07/06/2012 10:30:13 AM PDT by NotTallTex
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To: NotTallTex
Are you saying that the following statement by Snopes is false?

...No provision of the health care legislation passed during the Obama administration sets Medicare premium rates....

14 posted on 07/06/2012 10:36:27 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: navysealdad

Truth or Fiction. Some true and some false. Here is the link:

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/m/medicare-premiums.htm


15 posted on 07/06/2012 10:41:59 AM PDT by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 82)
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To: Mr. K; 1rudeboy

Is the WSJ good enough to debunk this, or does it have to come from Sarah Palin directly?

http://blogs.wsj.com/totalreturn/2012/07/06/medicare-premiums-the-rumors-return/?mod=google_news_blog


16 posted on 07/06/2012 10:41:59 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

Soros has gotten to the folks at the WSJ, apparently.


17 posted on 07/06/2012 10:43:53 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Right off the top of my head I can tell you that there are far more experts, including Adobe software experts that say the bc is fraudulent. Secondly, nowhere does Snopes talk about the white halos around the black text and lines.. This is a clear indication that the alleged bc was scanned and THEN only the black lines and text were placed onto an image of green security paper to give it an official look. There is no evidence of a 'seal' whatsoever. The 'layering' in this bc is evidence that at some point there were changes made to the bc. Also damning is the fact that both grayscale AND bitmap type appear on the same bc. Go to the SCRIBD document here and read bottom page 3 to understand 'halo' issue:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/58721290/Obama-Birth-Certificate-Final-Affidavit-of-Douglas-Vogt-June-24-2011-Total-of-9-items-now-listed

You have to be an EXPERT to understand what another EXPERT did when forging a document. This is not a novice's game by any means so reading this document deconstructs the otherwise ingenious fraud.

18 posted on 07/06/2012 10:54:19 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: 56newblog

While something like this may be plausible, can we agree that reading and believing emails (of all things) is probably a poor method to stay informed.

My father forwarded me a blatantly false screed about Obama and something he supposedly did (as president); I sent it back to him explaining that such fear-mongering only makes us look stupid in the long run, and dilutes the truth that does need to get out there.

Anyone who sends you something about the ACA, just ask them what section the language is in. If they don’t know, disregard it.


19 posted on 07/06/2012 11:13:00 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: 56newblog
I am one one of those idiots who did not prepare properly for retirement so that $100+/mo Medicare jump will effect me.

There is no way you can prepare for your retirement with unknown factors like Obama care cropping up. When I first considered preparing for retirement, $300.00 a month would have kept me nicely. Won't pay my portion of health insurance now.

20 posted on 07/06/2012 12:03:52 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Lion Den Dan

Bookmark


21 posted on 07/06/2012 12:29:09 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: 1rudeboy

Yes, and no. The numbers Snopes gave were from a Medicare Trustees Report. The increases mentioned in this article may not be true (probably not). Yes, The ACA did not address Medicare rates, however, what it did address was stealing a half a billion dollars from Medicare (remember, this is OUR money, not their’s). So, with less monies to work with, how are they going to recoup that large loss of funding without either raising rates or lowering even more physician’s fees, or both? But as to addressing the unfounded report in this article, they are right.


22 posted on 07/06/2012 12:52:43 PM PDT by NotTallTex
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