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Judge Posner: GOP has gone 'goofy' (another republican is slamming us conservatives)
Politico ^ | July 6th | By WILLIAM BERGSTROM

Posted on 07/06/2012 7:33:45 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

A conservative federal judge appointed by Ronald Reagan said in an interview published Thursday that the Republican Party has gone “goofy” and that “these right-wingers who are blasting [Chief Justice John] Roberts are making a very serious mistake.”

“I mean, what would you do if you were Roberts?” Judge Richard Posner, of the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, told NPR. “All of a sudden you find out that the people that you thought were your friends have turned against you, they despise you, they mistreat you, they leak to the press, what do you do? Do you become more conservative? Or do you say, ‘What am I doing with this crowd of lunatics?’”

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KEYWORDS: conservatism; establishment; gop; posner; richardposner; rino; rinos; teaparty
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It's nearly every day now, the GOP and it's elitists go out and attack conservatives.

And don't you just love how the progressive journalist starts out the article by citing Reagan?

"That's right, you damn conservatives", says the progressive journalist, "get back onto the GOP plantation!"

How is this for party unity? The republicans don't want party unity with conservatives! The GOP-E is out to defeat us every bit as much as we are out to defeat them!

JUST SAY NO TO THE GOP-ESTABLISHMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1 posted on 07/06/2012 7:33:54 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Richard Posner is the last person who should calling anybody else "goofy." The good judge has long since exceeded his "sell by date," let's just say.
2 posted on 07/06/2012 7:37:23 PM PDT by DSH
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

What if Roberts had ruled to overturn Obama care? Liberals would be sending death threats and marching on the court. Would Posner bother to condemn them? Frankly I doubt it because such behavior is expected from the true loons on the left.


3 posted on 07/06/2012 7:39:25 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

excuse me? YOU TURNED ON US, then wonder why we turn on you.


4 posted on 07/06/2012 7:40:52 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Posner is the one who needs to lighten up. Roberts made a very serious error that allowed the communists to tighten the noose around the necks of Americans. There is no getting out of this one. ObamaCare isn’t going to go away. Don’t ever feed the bears.


5 posted on 07/06/2012 7:40:56 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare is only the beginning. It's all downhill from here.)
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To: DSH
Posner left the reservation a long time ago...
6 posted on 07/06/2012 7:41:38 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Posner may be a conservative, but he is a judge before he is a conservative or American. Thou shalt not criticize krytocrat


7 posted on 07/06/2012 7:43:36 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Start looking as the GOP-e as a small fringe party that's out to take over the Republican party. At the moment they are focused primarily on the Presidential selection process, but they've got another loser on their hands.

Delegates to the convention need to ask themselves what they are doing there.

8 posted on 07/06/2012 7:44:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 4rcane

If you have to wonder why you’re a Conservative simply because others in the Conservative movement don’t like you, then you are NO CONSERVATIVE. Conservative is not a team, but ideological movement. If you have Conservative ideology, and some member Conservative team turn on you, it shouldn’t change your ideology, unless you never have it in the first place


9 posted on 07/06/2012 7:44:05 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: rmlew
Thou shalt not criticize krytocrat

Well said.

10 posted on 07/06/2012 7:46:10 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

“All of a sudden you find out that the people that you thought were your friends have turned against you, they despise you, they mistreat you, they leak to the press, what do you do? Do you become more conservative? Or do you say, ‘What am I doing with this crowd of lunatics?’”

They turned on Roberts because he sold the Constitution, and consequentially, his supporters out.

It’s not a real hard concept to understand unless you don’t want to understand it.

What an asswipe.


11 posted on 07/06/2012 7:49:42 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: rmlew
Posner may be a conservative, but he is a judge before he is a conservative or American. Thou shalt not criticize krytocrat

Posner - “I’ve become less conservative since the Republican Party started becoming goofy,” he said.

Posner is a statist RINO. Levin ripped this guy up and down today.

12 posted on 07/06/2012 7:53:18 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Republican does not equal conservative. Never has, and has never been so far away as now.


13 posted on 07/06/2012 7:54:32 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I’m not too critical of Roberts because I think he’s a liberal and he voted like one. I don’t think he was bribed or intimidated or tricked. I just think he’s a liberal.


14 posted on 07/06/2012 7:58:34 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: CriticalJ

For those unfaMILiar with Posner’s ruling in Willowbrook v. Olech, might I suggest that Posner came down on the side of the individual. He referred to the City of Willowbrook’s argument as “blaming the victim, with a vengeance”.

Having said that, the reason we are faced with Bammy, ad nauseam is that commies infiltrated academia and agencies generations ago.

Either take back the schools or see America go FULL COMMIE ! ! !


15 posted on 07/06/2012 7:59:15 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Red Steel

Levin made it clear that Posner has become a buffoon. It was wonderful to listen to. Posner doesn’t have a problem with Captain Kangaroo selling out America? REAL Americans DO. Roberts is a loathesome traitor, and his reputaion is shot to hell. Nothing and no one can restore it. Bob


16 posted on 07/06/2012 7:59:29 PM PDT by alstewartfan (Two broken Tigers on fire in the night Flicker their souls to the wind. Al Stewart "Roads to Moscow")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
“All of a sudden you find out that the people that you thought were your friends have turned against you, they despise you, they mistreat you, they leak to the press, what do you do? Do you become more conservative? Or do you say, ‘What am I doing with this crowd of lunatics?’”

Oh, boo hoo.

We're hurting Roberts' feelings?

What's he going to do, sell the country into socialism and set legal precedent that will keep us in socialism for generations to come?

Oh. Wait...

17 posted on 07/06/2012 8:01:47 PM PDT by Washi (Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse, one head-shot at a time.)
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To: Tau Food

To me, he is a smarmy American traitor who, if the law is not overturned, will be remembered as a man who sold his countrymen down the river for a few words of praise from the Washington Post. Scum!!! Bob


18 posted on 07/06/2012 8:02:25 PM PDT by alstewartfan (Two broken Tigers on fire in the night Flicker their souls to the wind. Al Stewart "Roads to Moscow")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

“I mean, what would you do if you were Roberts?”
.........................................................

My FRIGGIN JOB. I would have done what I get paid for.

To rule things unConstitutional that ARE unConstitutional.
Not to rewrite it for Obama.


19 posted on 07/06/2012 8:04:23 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
All of a sudden you find out that the people that you thought were your friends have turned against you, they despise you, they mistreat you, they leak to the press, what do you do? Do you become more conservative? Or do you say, ‘What am I doing with this crowd of lunatics?’”

Nah, you behave like a hurt schoolgirl and throw away the principles you supposedly have because your friends are being really, really mean to you.

Is this really how Roberts wants to be seen - as a petulant child who will run crying if conservatives object to his landmark betrayal? And what exactly triggered this betrayal - did Scalia and Thomas cut in front of him in the Supreme Court cafeteria lunch line?
20 posted on 07/06/2012 8:06:15 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Standing by for the Romney ballwashers to arrive spouting insults and Party Over Principle rhetoric.


21 posted on 07/06/2012 8:10:48 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts once lead the American Revolution. Under Mitt Romney, it lead the demise.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

So, Posner thinks we should bring our own vaseline, bend over, and beg for more. I think not!


22 posted on 07/06/2012 8:11:18 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Well said. Anyone who “abandons” his principles b/c his “friends” say negative things about him never had principles to cast off anyway.


23 posted on 07/06/2012 8:11:27 PM PDT by alstewartfan (Two broken Tigers on fire in the night Flicker their souls to the wind. Al Stewart "Roads to Moscow")
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This confuses me. Roberts said it’s a tax. The republicans are out yelling “This is a tax!” If it’s a tax does congress not have the authority to levy it? If it’s not a tax then the republicans are idiots.


24 posted on 07/06/2012 8:13:34 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
It is not as if Roberts has not done anything, then all of a sudden conservatives completely ‘turned on him’ without any reason.

There was a cause, which this judge conveniently ignored. He should square out the first step before condemning the others.

25 posted on 07/06/2012 8:15:17 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

One more person supposedly on the right tells us that even if we are served crap sammich, we are going to love it too.


26 posted on 07/06/2012 8:18:18 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Washi
"Oh, boo hoo.

We're hurting Roberts' feelings?"

Don't worry about Roberts. He's off on his annual summer Mediterranean vacation with his long time boyfriend. He left smiling, arrived smiling and will return smiling.

27 posted on 07/06/2012 8:18:28 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: packrat35

George Wallace once said that some goofy judge deserved a barbed wire enema. Well, this goofy hack in black just administered one to all of US. Posner is either suffering from dementia or ivory tower hemmorhoids. Bob


28 posted on 07/06/2012 8:19:15 PM PDT by alstewartfan (Two broken Tigers on fire in the night Flicker their souls to the wind. Al Stewart "Roads to Moscow")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

So, criticism from the right will also cause Roberts to become a liberal according to Judge Posner?

A week ago it was the fear of criticism from the left that cause him to turn liberal.

This rule: No matter the source of the criticism, Judge Roberts turns liberal.

The moral of the story: Roberts will go lib in the big decisions.


29 posted on 07/06/2012 8:19:19 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Paladin2

Captain Kangaroo is a rump ranger?


30 posted on 07/06/2012 8:20:27 PM PDT by alstewartfan (Two broken Tigers on fire in the night Flicker their souls to the wind. Al Stewart "Roads to Moscow")
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

LOL,
Roberts wants to be the second coming of John Marshall and is going to become the second coming of Megan McCain?


31 posted on 07/06/2012 8:20:51 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Terry Mross

Not so simple. Congress does not have the same plenary taxing authority of a parliament. At least the language of the constitution does not allow them to tax anything and everything. Calling what the acts calls a penalty a “tax,” is a novel use of the term. If the Court takes what Roberts as precedent,it has great expanded the taxing power.


32 posted on 07/06/2012 8:24:12 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: alstewartfan
There are certain facts from his past that potentially point that way.

For example: Past pro bono work, pics of good times past with his current co-professor on Malta (wife and kids at home).

33 posted on 07/06/2012 8:26:39 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: alstewartfan
"Captain Kangaroo"

I like to think of Roberts as the Spirit of Rodney King "Can we all get along?"

34 posted on 07/06/2012 8:28:20 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Well, the good judge should join the ‘sane’ Occupoopers.
These guys are liberals and they want both parties to be liberal. Tough.

One party will be for constitutional freedom and Western culture and ethics and free market economy and the other will be Marxist. These ELITIST limo-liberal globalist prisses can KMA. They are going to be harassed and run out on a rail if they are liberals screwing conservatives and our goals in the Republican party.


35 posted on 07/06/2012 8:34:29 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Paladin2

So are you saying that blackmail may have played a part in his scurrilous decision?


36 posted on 07/06/2012 8:38:00 PM PDT by alstewartfan (Two broken Tigers on fire in the night Flicker their souls to the wind. Al Stewart "Roads to Moscow")
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To: alstewartfan

No, just that facts are emerging and Roberts is likely to lean to the social justice side of issues.


37 posted on 07/06/2012 8:41:10 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Tau Food

I agree that what showed was his, i.e. Roberts, liberal thinking. However, I also believe that he was given a nudge/suggestion based on something the public is not to know. He should have been given more vetting but apparently the nomination by Bush was taken to mean a conservative was being offered.


38 posted on 07/06/2012 8:41:24 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Red Steel
Levin ripped this guy up and down today.
Doesn't Levin have a diametrically opposite position than you on the NBC issue?

And you trust this guy's judgement on this decision?

39 posted on 07/06/2012 8:41:27 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
“All of a sudden you find out that the people that you thought were your friends have turned against you...

This pantload Posner must have taken the brown LSD. All of a sudden, Judge, we found out that the person we thought was our friend is instead a traitorous coward who shot America in the head and then scurried off to a foreign country on "vacation". How hard is this to figure out?

40 posted on 07/06/2012 8:42:04 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Paladin2

“Social justice” says individual rights be damned.


41 posted on 07/06/2012 8:47:48 PM PDT by alstewartfan (Two broken Tigers on fire in the night Flicker their souls to the wind. Al Stewart "Roads to Moscow")
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To: philman_36

I don’t trust anyone in the media on all things. He’s not perfect. And actually, as much as I’ve heard Levin dis “Birthers” in the past, I haven’t heard him say Obama is constitutionally eligible.


42 posted on 07/06/2012 8:47:56 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: alstewartfan

Roberts has come out of the closet as a Federal Statist. He’s not for Personal Liberty for you.


43 posted on 07/06/2012 8:50:32 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: noinfringers2
You may very well be right.

I just don't recall him promising to be a "conservative" when he was being confirmed. I remember him likening himself to an umpire, calling balls and strikes. Of course, that kind of assurance is not too illuminating, but more importantly, that kind of assurance is intentionally not too illuminating.

Some umpires have large strike zones and some umpires have smaller, less liberal strike zones. Once the pitchers and batters get to know each umpire, they can adjust their game.

I guess it's about time we start adjusting to our new Chief Umpire. It seems he's a liberal.

44 posted on 07/06/2012 9:04:49 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

So NPR sniffed around until they found some no-account hump. Typical.


45 posted on 07/06/2012 9:10:16 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Terry Mross

One aspect about this brouhaha that intrigues me is that apparently the law never was explicit as to all the funding to be done. Perhaps if the Republicans had contested/objected to the law based on lack of clearly defined funding the SC would have had to do a different take than just assuming it has power to set taxes. Of course Roberts and cohearts would have gone the commerce route. As the Green Hornet used to say “who knows what evil lurks in the heart of man?.


46 posted on 07/06/2012 9:11:43 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

47 posted on 07/06/2012 9:14:08 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: xzins

In reading the ruling, Roberts seems more like a mental patient than anything else.


48 posted on 07/06/2012 9:17:41 PM PDT by Xeroes80 ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools."- EH)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

“Do you become more conservative?”

OK, let’s turn that logic around. Zero ridiculed Robert’s court in about the most public forum there is, the State of the Union address.
That didn’t turn Roberts into a (take your MSM pick) arch/ ultra/hardcore conservative. Maybe he’s into `slap & tickle’?
(AND SEE, adj. `conservatives’: constantly erect, super-duper pooping, hyper-meanie, Medusa-like, evil Nazi, barking mad; `progressives’: Democrats, moderates, and th-th-th-that’s all. Journalists’ Stylebook, 4th ed.)


49 posted on 07/06/2012 9:17:52 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: tumblindice

If this issue were a run of the mill decision..I might agree with Posner, but since it is one of the keystones of a socialist USA..and one that sets us on a nearly irreversible plunge into slavery to the state...he deserves every bit.


50 posted on 07/06/2012 9:22:43 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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