Skip to comments.If BHO is reelected, Time for Texas to Secede (Vanity)
Posted on 07/07/2012 10:55:47 AM PDT by no dems
Being a native-born Texan, it is my understanding that Texas is the only State in the Union that can legally secede from the Union, because it was once a Republic on it's own. (The Republic of Texas.)
Now, someone help me out here: Is that a fact? If so, I'm calling on all Texas FReepers to join me in laying the groundwork to make it happen if Barack Obama is reelected. What do we need to do to start a Secession Movement, and where do we begin? If you're not a Texan, you don't understand the Texas mind-set. If BHO is reelected, I guarantee you that Texas would vote 60% - 40% FOR Secession. Even Governor Perry has talked about Texas seceding. LET'S FRIGGIN' DO IT!!!
"You, Mr. President, may go to Hell. I will go to Texas"
Sorry dude, but in the 21st century, drones would blow up your WWII replicas where they were parked. There is a lot more to ownership of the skies than aircraft alone, and the USA owns the skies. You couldn’t fly a stealthed sparrow over a USA military installation, while the AF would strike with impunity from aircraft you didn’t even know was in the air.
Not sure what this is in reference to, but those old rich families in New York and New England are a miniscule part of the population. Even families whose ancestors were here at the time of the Revolution are a small part of the population. Plus, a lot of retirees move out of state to parts of the country where the weather is better and taxes are less, so what they get in social security and medicare goes there.
As regards Texas secession, the whole country is moving in more or less the same direction, some parts faster than others, each with a different mix of tendencies, but all going through similar changes. A generation down the road an independent Texas is going to find itself going through the same things that California or New York is going through now -- all the faster if confused and rebellious young people don't move out of state.
Just curious as well, using your definition, would a child with an unknown father be eligible to president?
An extremely common occurrence these days I might add.
Actions and irresponsibility have consequences.
Having a child who can have any one of every single job an entire wealthy country offers except two is a pretty small price to pay for banging every guy on the football, basketball, track and baseball teams.
and what to do then about the:
98% of blacks
65% of latinos
and 26% of whites*
who all voted for Obama in 2008?
man...those Yankees who moved into Texas from late 70s on for the oil patch at first sure killed your white voting stats
Mississippi and Alabama voted almost 90% white vote against Obama...Texas woulda too but for the Rust Belt migration
There you nailed it. We don't need to seceed, those "in power" need to go.
“They do allow TX to split into up to five states.”
Can you provide link for that?
“But we can fly our Texas flag the same height as the U.S. Flag.”
Really? Can I have a link for that as I am in Flower Mound (near Dallas) and would like to do that but I want to read the rule myself.
“massive firepower”? “Mexico”??
hee hee hee
I happen to believe Obama was constitutionally, though unwisely, elected president.
If I “muddy the waters” when “Obama is attacked on constitutional grounds” it is because I believe the arguments made for his ineligibility are not valid. I think this “clears the waters” rather than muddying them.
Is it really so difficult to comprehend the difference between opposition to a politician, and refusal to accept the validity of every argument against him?
A classic example being, “a Natural Born Citizen has TWO citizen parents.”
This is not a fact, no matter how often it is capitalized. It is a contention or argument. It has some points in its favor, but after considerable research I have decided it is incorrect. The only thing that would settle it definitively would be a Supreme Court ruling on the issue. If they were to decide that you are right, I’d be happy to accept the ruling.
Till then, it is a highly debatable point, not a fact.
I want Obama to be voted out of office. I assume you do, too. Is that not more important now than obscure argumentation about Vattel and Wong Kim Ark?
This claim is false. There are several other states or regions that were independent prior to joining the Union. To start with not all the States joined the Union together, back in the 18th Century. I believe that Vermont held out the longest before signing up. As the Revolution was long past there were an independent country for a while there...
The strongest claim to Independence belongs not to Texas, but to Hawaii. There is no disputing that Hawaii was a sovereign Kingdom for many years prior to the events which made it a US Territory.
The West Florida Republic had a brief time as an independent nation, and comprised parts of modern day Miss, Alabama and Louisiana. They were the first American mini-nation to use the Bonnie Blue Flag --- the guys in Texas might be familiar with the basic design, I think they borrowed it.
Those who only know the Texas faux-history of the USA are doomed to repeat it (endlessly on Free Republic).
You own a home here, but are you a Texan? Two different things, bub.
Any state can, it’s a myth. However, Texas state code does require that the Texas flag fly at the same height if on separate poles.
I’ll move back to Texas as soon as the process begins. I’ll bring the rest of my family with me... or maybe we can get Mississippi to join with you.
I am a new comer too, one of my ancestors was born here during The Republic. hee hee hee
Family has been in this county since 1889. I was the first to move away (for 25 years), but moved back in 1995.
I live in what the guys in Dallas call “the big nothing”.
Some of the birthers get so deep into the weeds they cut off their own ankles without realizing it.
I have seen claims that Obama's "real" father was actually Malcolm X or some guy in HI who wrote dirty poetry, forget his name.
Both of whom were American citizens, and therefore would invalidate the claim that Obama isn't natural-born.
BTW, what of the possible case where a candidate's biological father is not the same as his mother's husband? Also not an uncommon occurrence. Should we require paternity tests for all candidates for President?
BTW, thanks for your comment. You are exactly right. The term has never been defined.
Seventy percent of the people opposed ACA, yet they see to have been able to put it in place. I don't buy your premise.
“How much dairy is made in Alaska? What medicines are produced in Alaska? What dry goods are made in Alaska? What industrial products are made in Alaska? Vegetables, wheat, rice, corn, sugar?”
Dubai and the other Emerites qualify for that description.
They have oil. Alaska has oil.
Like any nation, international trade is key.
I'm extremely doubtful of these statistics. What's counted as "taking". There is a big difference between sending money to an Army base in your state and sending the state a few billion to support their Section 8 housing dependents.
We know California has more welfare recipients than any other state, it has about 1/3 of all the welfare queens in America!
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