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If BHO is reelected, Time for Texas to Secede (Vanity)
July 7, 2012 | no dems

Posted on 07/07/2012 10:55:47 AM PDT by no dems

Being a native-born Texan, it is my understanding that Texas is the only State in the Union that can legally secede from the Union, because it was once a Republic on it's own. (The Republic of Texas.)

Now, someone help me out here: Is that a fact? If so, I'm calling on all Texas FReepers to join me in laying the groundwork to make it happen if Barack Obama is reelected. What do we need to do to start a Secession Movement, and where do we begin? If you're not a Texan, you don't understand the Texas mind-set. If BHO is reelected, I guarantee you that Texas would vote 60% - 40% FOR Secession. Even Governor Perry has talked about Texas seceding. LET'S FRIGGIN' DO IT!!!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: secede; vanity
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To: no dems

I think Texas is already part of Mexico again.


21 posted on 07/07/2012 11:12:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: no dems

Just be careful of many secession movements out there like the Republic of Texas movement. Most are scams to sell fake land grants or bogus currency. Any real movement would need to be sure to disassociate with these type of groups.


22 posted on 07/07/2012 11:12:35 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Posting on FR is all it takes.


23 posted on 07/07/2012 11:13:23 AM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: no dems

I don’t think Texas can do it, but I’d support any such action. I think I would have to consider moving to the Hill Country.


24 posted on 07/07/2012 11:13:23 AM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: DRey
"Yes, Texas was a Republic. So was California for a very short time"

And Vermont.

25 posted on 07/07/2012 11:13:40 AM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: Marathoner

I’m from Western Arkansas. Maybe it is time for me to buy a lot somewhere in Texas.


26 posted on 07/07/2012 11:14:24 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: no dems
Actually, all states can legally secede, regardless of what some say. If you join an organization, in this case a Union, you can un join it. The war between the states should never have happened and wouldn't have if "Honest Abe" had lived up to the letter of the law and left the south alone. He pushed until the South fired on a Fort that was in Southern territory, the troops were left there in order for that to happen. Abe wanted the war so he could force the south back into the Union.

We would all be better off if the South had won or if the war had never occurred at all, especially if the war hadn't happened at all, we would still have states rights and slavery would still have gone away except it wouldn't have cost 500 million lives, mostly white lives by the way, in order to happen.

I hope Texas secedes and any other state that feels the same way goes with them.

27 posted on 07/07/2012 11:15:24 AM PDT by calex59
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To: no dems; xzins

The Feds have you and me and everyone else enslaved. Will Texans really vote to withdraw from Social Security, Medicare and pay back their share of the national debt?

If you read the history of the American Revolution you will realize that the kind of geographical and political situation which existed in 1760-1776 was wholly different than what it is today. I really don’t think anyone in power is going to seriously consider secession.

Civil Disobedience of Federal Edicts and firm assertion of States Rights is likely to do more to achieve liberty than talk of secession.

States need to take the position that “Congress passed this law, let them try to enforce it.” The Federal Government relies on the States to enforce nearly all their regulatory laws. Even Social Security and Medicare are administered by the states.

Arizona is on the cutting edge of potential Civil Disobedience and Sheriff Arpaio should be considered the George Washington or the Samuel Adams of the peaceful revolution.


28 posted on 07/07/2012 11:15:24 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: no dems

I think that if Texas did this, against the Feds and the Feds went after them, I would think that other states would join them. Then you could have another civil war.


29 posted on 07/07/2012 11:16:23 AM PDT by RC2 (Buy American and support the Wounded Warrior Project whenever possible.)
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To: Celtic Cross

Part of Tennessee was as well — Republic of Franklin. : )


30 posted on 07/07/2012 11:17:25 AM PDT by DRey (Condi for VP)
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To: lgjhn23
Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma

It would be a lot bigger than that. Just ask some of our other neighbors. I want no part of talk of secession. I want it all back and the Commie Bastards who are ruining the nation in Jail.

31 posted on 07/07/2012 11:19:50 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Charles Henrickson

There is a very good possibility that BHO will LOSE, so let’s help make THAT happen.
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That would be my first choice.


32 posted on 07/07/2012 11:19:57 AM PDT by no dems (On June 28th, they shoved ObamaCare down our throat. On Nov. 6th, we'll shove it up their ass.)
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To: DallasSun

But we can fly our Texas flag the same height as the U.S. Flag.


And so can the other 56 states.


33 posted on 07/07/2012 11:20:23 AM PDT by deport
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To: saganite

Congratulations! You have just joined homeland secrity’s terrorist watch list.
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Like I give a sh**.


34 posted on 07/07/2012 11:21:15 AM PDT by no dems (On June 28th, they shoved ObamaCare down our throat. On Nov. 6th, we'll shove it up their ass.)
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To: lgjhn23
Texas is a “payer state”, not a “taker state”. The Feds could not afford to lose her.

According to the data from the source below, TX gets .94 back for every dollar it sends to the feds.

That does indeed put her on the payer side, but just barely. #1 on the payer side, oddly, is NJ at .61. CA is at .78 and NY at .79.

If you look at the data there is a very obvious pattern. Red states tend to be takers, and blue states tend to be payers.

Somewhat counter-intuitive.

Data is from 2005. I couldn't find anything more recent, but I doubt the numbers have changed greatly. http://tax.d7.qorvisdev.com/article/federal-spending-received-dollar-taxes-paid-state-2005

35 posted on 07/07/2012 11:21:33 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: wastedyears

If Texas does, I’d ride a bike from NYC to Texas.
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Ever since Gov. Perry mentioned secession some months ago, I’ve had people in other States like Michigan and South Carolina tell me: “If that happens, I’m on my way to Texas.”


36 posted on 07/07/2012 11:23:22 AM PDT by no dems (On June 28th, they shoved ObamaCare down our throat. On Nov. 6th, we'll shove it up their ass.)
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To: DRey

And The Republic of Hawaii too, before it became a Territory and after it was a Kingdom.


37 posted on 07/07/2012 11:24:44 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: DallasSun

Not gonna happen. That’s a clown suggestion, bro.
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Hey, it would be a “fun” activity seeing how far it would go.


38 posted on 07/07/2012 11:25:12 AM PDT by no dems (On June 28th, they shoved ObamaCare down our throat. On Nov. 6th, we'll shove it up their ass.)
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To: KoRn
Alaska has always been another one I’ve always wondered why they hang on. They are 100% self sufficient with access to the ocean and abundant natural resources.

That self-sufficiency is of course why they're #3 on the list of "taker" states, with $1.84 in federal payments for each dollar of taxes.

http://tax.d7.qorvisdev.com/article/federal-spending-received-dollar-taxes-paid-state-2005

39 posted on 07/07/2012 11:25:12 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Celtic Cross

If Texas tried it, even by popular vote, they’d get wiped slick by the federal government.
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How so?


40 posted on 07/07/2012 11:26:20 AM PDT by no dems (On June 28th, they shoved ObamaCare down our throat. On Nov. 6th, we'll shove it up their ass.)
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