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Hospitals 'letting patients die to save money’ (UK)
Telegraph ^ | 7/8/12 | Stephen Adam

Posted on 07/08/2012 6:52:20 PM PDT by Nachum

Tens of thousands of patients with terminal illnesses are placed on a “death pathway” to help end their lives every year. However, in a letter to The Daily Telegraph, six doctors warn that hospitals may be using the controversial scheme to reduce strain on hospital resources. Supporters of the Liverpool Care Pathway, which allows medical staff to withhold fluid and drugs in a patient’s final days, claim it is the kindest way of letting them slip away. But the experts say in their letter that natural deaths are often freer of pain and distress. Informed consent is not

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; die; hospitals; letting; nhs; obamacare; patients
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1 posted on 07/08/2012 6:52:27 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Coming soon to an American hospital near you. Remember all that commie ‘RAT propaganda we heard over the years about your medical decisions being made between you and your doctor? Bwwwwwahhaaaahhaaahaaa! The clowns in this country bought it. Now, with ObamaCare, those days are long gone. Green eyeshade wearing IRS agents and government bureaucrats will be making those decisions for you.


2 posted on 07/08/2012 6:59:11 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Help reduce voter fraud in America! If you see something, say something!)
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To: Nachum

Hold On!!!

Lets cut Brits a break here!

Justice Roberts just ruled that DEATH PANELS are constitutional!!!!!

Welcome to the Brave New World.


3 posted on 07/08/2012 7:07:53 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: Nachum

Sarah Palin Slaps Down Bob Beckel on Death Panels
http://lybio.net/sarah-palin-slaps-down-bob-beckel-on-death-panels/news-politics/


4 posted on 07/08/2012 7:16:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: Nachum
Informed consent is not always being sought by doctors, who fail to ask patients about their wishes while they are still in control of their faculties, warn the six.

Government to doctor:

No, of course we are not telling you to kill the patients! Silly you, for even thinking such a thing! But unless they are dead by next month, compensation for those patients' care will be terminated, and we will cite you for overutilization of government resources. If you receive repeat citations, we will terminate your employment contract. Naturally, if you are actually apprehended in the act of killing patients, we will prosecute you for murder.

So it is entirely your choice! We wouldn't dream of interfering with the sacred doctor-patient relationship!

Have a nice day.

5 posted on 07/08/2012 7:19:23 PM PDT by TChad
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To: FlingWingFlyer
my mother lives there and has been refused knee surgery, she Doc had to appeal to a 3 board panel in London, hundreds of miles away.

After two years of messing about she gets her surgery but then tells me that she has to call the day before.
I ask why and she tells me that she has to find out if they have a spare bed.

She is 82 and this crap is coming to America and we have the dopes who ave no clue what Govt health care is about and we have dopes in America who listen to their dear leader and think what he states is the truth and thinks things like health care is free but ignore the tax code in the UK

Who would ave thought that I would move here, legally I might add only to find that socialism is now here in America and yes yet again we ave dopes who cannot even admit they are now socialist and support socialism

6 posted on 07/08/2012 7:21:50 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Nachum

Just imagine ... the TSA goons that will be running your FEMA camp will also be running your medical care! I’m sure they will be much better at triage than real doctors.


7 posted on 07/08/2012 7:26:58 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
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To: Nachum

When Nazi SS did this was called a crime against humanity...


8 posted on 07/08/2012 7:37:28 PM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: manc

I know exactly how you feel...I’m originally from canada.

It’s worse back there. Nowadays, they wheel you before surgery in the middle of the hallway and leave you there and that’s what happened to my aunt in Saskatchewan. PLUS, the “panel” from the province deemed her too expensive to operate on, but due to the federal govt’s promise of treatment she suffered in pain for months.

We literally flew her to the States for treatment. What’s worse? the idiotic canadian govt billed her for going to America. I could not believe to this day the gall of these bastards. Now this is coming to America. i escaped canada socialism now I have to pay the price here. The irony.


9 posted on 07/08/2012 7:38:10 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Nachum
I'm gratified to know that none of the Kennedys,OsamaObama,nor Soros will ever be intentionally neglected to death in a US hospital.

I'm far less optimistic regarding my fate and the fates of my children and grandchildren.

10 posted on 07/08/2012 7:47:34 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Nachum

People in Great Britain will never learn either.


11 posted on 07/08/2012 7:51:25 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: manc

As Jane Fonda would say, “We are all socialists now,” but you can be sure she has her own private health care arrangements free of pesky liberals like herself.


12 posted on 07/08/2012 7:54:56 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: manc
my mother lives there and has been refused knee surgery, she Doc had to appeal to a 3 board panel in London, hundreds of miles away.After two years of messing about she gets her surgery but then tells me that she has to call the day before.

Twenty days after having made my first call to a surgeon's office to arrange a consultation I,an ordinary...anything-but-rich...anything-but powerful (or "connected") American,was in the recovery room of a major Boston hospital sporting a new piece of titanium where my hip once was.

Those days will continue forever for the "beautiful" people of this nation.....

13 posted on 07/08/2012 7:57:16 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: zot

Death panels anyone?


14 posted on 07/08/2012 9:20:24 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

Death panels for the politically incorrect. Like us. Those favored by the administration will receive treatment.


15 posted on 07/08/2012 9:35:54 PM PDT by zot
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Many the thirty somethings who worshop obama have parents who are getting close to the death panel age. I hope they’re happy.


16 posted on 07/08/2012 9:38:32 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Terry Mross

YEP....some will be in for a RUDE awakening...


17 posted on 07/08/2012 9:47:51 PM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: Nachum

I used to correspond with a woman there who got denied treatment. She went full throttle investigating and agitating. However, when it came down to it she said the SYSTEM was great until the Tories got in power and that it was all the fault of this insurance company called APTOS. Ultimately she started blaming the USA. That was it. I never corresponded with her again. Point is, people on the Left, still blaming private companies and America for things going wrong in THEIR beloved healthcare system.Pfft.


18 posted on 07/08/2012 11:40:47 PM PDT by Anima Mundi (ENVY IS JUST PASSIVE, LAZY GREED)
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To: Nachum

Justice Roberts welcomes commiecare death panels to the Socialist States of America .


19 posted on 07/09/2012 5:13:15 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Well the thing says “final days” which means they are going to die anyway. This has nothing to do with needing a heart transplant or something. This means that you die naturally a few hours or days before dying with medication. This does not seem as cruel as some make it out to be.


20 posted on 07/09/2012 6:36:28 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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