Skip to comments.TSA Invades Chicago's Union Station
Posted on 07/10/2012 12:02:40 PM PDT by JohnKinAK
Citizen video tapes TSA setting up checkpoint at Chicago's Union Station.
"As I entered Chicago's Union Station back on July 5th, I noticed 3 Fully Uniform TSA Agents sitting inside the office of Amtrak Police. I took out my cell phone and started to follow these TSA agents, and it appeared to me that they were setting up a Check Point for Amtrak Riders. This is just another example of how TSA expanding their operations and entering Train Stations, Bus terminals, and major sporting and concert events. Will Americans allow TSA to bring their intrusive Pat Downs on the road or finally take a stand and say NO!!"
I thought that if only we didn’t fly, we could choke of the TSA’s reason for being.
My daughter in law got a parking ticket at the arriving flights passenger pickup area without even coming to a complete stop. I avoid Chicago at all costs. I consider it a just plain evil place.
“You don’t professionalize unless you federalize”
I have a feeling the Chicago gang bangers are going to react in a negative manner when the TSA brown....er, blue shirts..... try to pat down their crotches.
How common is train hijacking? How often do terrorists drive trains into buildings?
The TSA watched Inception...
I have no idea what that is.
A stupid movie that had Leonardo DiCaprio in it.
One scene has a train off the tracks in the middle of downtown.
The chief of Amtrak police who previously threw TSA agents out of Amtrak stations just retired. The new chief apparently has a different mindset about these government-paid thugs.
The train scene.
Note, no tracks.
TSA must have watched this stupid movie.
I despise TSA.
Are you friggin’ serious? Spain come to mind? How many people must die before your knee-jerk reaction syndrome is cured?
In that case, we need them everywhere, don't we?
Schools, shopping centers, gas stations, the entrance of every subdivision?
We must live in absolute safety if it kills us.
Were you weeping with emotion when you wrote that? Because if you weren't, then I'm just not seeing the empathy from you that we collectively need to get this job done at the end of the day.
Don’t forget street corners and crossroads, your bedrooms, your living roms, your kitchend, supermarkets. But, as you can tell from the responses, the slavation of the sheep is almost complete.
Aw shucks . . . facts bother you also? It’s ok to hate the TSA, just don’t be so gd stupid about it. Train lines and stations are targets of Al-Q. Fact.
Fact, AQ is not the target of choice for the TSA.
Nor is the TSA actually concerned with security.
If they were, they’d use the Israeli model to secure an airport.
The Heritage Foundation has an excellent report about the forty or so terrorist plots foiled in the U.S. since 2001. I suspect that you’d be surprised at some of the targets. baaah
Actually, that is the argument he made.
You blathered the nonsense in a purely emotional panic-support of an all-out police state.
“Aw shucks . . . facts bother you also? Its ok to hate the TSA, just dont be so gd stupid about it. Train lines and stations are targets of Al-Q. Fact.”
FACT is thanks to people like you, TSA and the government in general will continue to expand into every aspect of our lives.
Al-Q wants to kill us all so using your surrender logic everyone needs their own TSA agent standing by.
Rather than being a cheese eating surrender monkey and not offend some 6th century sand monkeys by violating the 4th Amendment rights of every LEGAL USA citizen, we need to PURGE the country of these vermin. They are growing in numbers and the problem will only get worse with the TSA invading more and more of our everyday life.
So you think #6 is a valid argument? And I’m the one that’s being emotional for pointing-out that terrorists have been targeting trains for decades?
What a clown parade.
Sorry, I’d rather be on the first bombed aircraft in flight, than be subject to gestapo tactics in my own nation.
The TSA has made it more clear than I ever could why.
I don’t fly unless it is impossible to travel other ways. Looks like I won’t be riding any more trains either.
Next I expect to have checkpoints on our highways. At that point, we will be a full blown police state on the level of NAZI Germany. We’re almost there now.
Show me your papers...
State your business...
What’s in your car...
Where are you going...
Where are you coming from...
What are your relatives names...
Who do you know...
Where do you work...
I simply stated a fact, and everyone feels the need to point out the slippery slope that I already see. Yet they cannot see how dumb post #6 was.
You evidently don't drive around in the southwest very much as there are countless "Border Patrol" checkpoints on primary and secondary roads already and the number is increasing.
You were the one who tried your best to live up to your screen name.
The rag heads will try to kill us anywhere not just airports and train stations and it is NOT a knee jerk reaction to push back and push back hard against the TSA as long as they continue to violate our 4th Amendment rights. To ignore the encroachment of government into our everyday lives is stupid. For the children, for your safety, classified... all the typical excuses used by government to usurp more and more power will not be tolerated by many of us and to call it a knee jerk reaction is stupid beyond belief.
The actions of the TSA need to be challenged via the 4th Amendment at airports, train stations, bus stations or anywhere they try to setup their gestapo force.
Yikes... I was no fan of the creation of the TSA and the takeover of the airports, for starters... It wasn’t an airport security failure that led to 9-11. Those box cutters were perfectly legal to carry then. Heck... I always carried a fair sized folder whenever I flew back then.
That said... A dislike for the TSA is not a reason to think there should be no security attention at all on other forms of transportation like trains or buses. Thinking of Madrid... Yes, it should be tougher to walk onto a crowded train with a backpack full of explosives... Tougher than just moving through a turn style with a ticket. Having that thought doesn’t make somebody a boot-licker.
I will freely admit that I riducule people who make stupid comments on FR, and that I have been doing so for over a decade.
About as common as driving ferrys into buildings. A few months ago I heard some friends had to go through a TSA search at the Galveston (Texas) ferry. It's a little 15 minute free state run ferry that runs between Galvestion island over to Port Bolivar and is mainly used by tourists to go across and turn around to get in line to return again. The wait in line is longer than the ride. I'm guessing the TSA was doing a test run since I haven't heard more about it. But even a test run brings up questions.
A bomb in a backpack will kill maybe a dozen people. Somebody wants to do damage and kill people, he doesn't need to get ON a train -- he just needs to put something heavy enough to cause derailment on the tracks somewhere.
What's special about Amtrak that couldn't also be done on subways, buses or commuter rail?
This is all about conditioning people to accept control.
Good Lord. I mean, really. When I get home, I’ll post a link to the Heritage study. Subways (in the US) have been targeted multiple times. I’m on a cel phone, now.
And as far as buses go, think London.
The TSA won’t molest the gangs, they’ll pick out the white people to molest.
The only thing that IS feasible is to recognize that the source of the problem is radical Muslims, and get them out of the country.
Actually, I don’t really see post six as being out of line. I don’t know of a single terrorist related attack on U. S. soil involving a train in the last 100 years. Perhaps I’m forgetting something, but I don’t believe I am.
As for the Spain attack, I think you’re forgetting one thing. You achieve nothing by focusing on riders. You can strip folks naked, take everything away from them, and have them put on new clothes, before they board. All a person has to do is place a bomb anywhere on a three hundred mile track to achieve their goals.
Why do we allow people from terrorist states to come here? Why do we allow people who attend subversive anti-American meetings on a regular basis ride our aircraft or trains? Why don’t we deport the ones we can? Why don’t we deport just the leaders that preach this stuff?
How does harassing the passengers at one station protect passengers? It doesn’t. This is theater. You should understand that.
“They don’t ride Amtrak, they take the subway/El system.”
I realized that after I posted, but seeing how the TSA (and most all other federal agencies) are all about mission creep and expanding their power, it won’t be long before we see the blue shirts on commuter trains and subways in major cities.
You have a point there. It’s the same one that I would raise when we’re talking about fixes that government refuses to do, that then cause us to focus on citizens vs the foreign nationals who for the most part are causing the problems.
We won’t seal our border
We refuse to deport illegals
We allow people from terrorist states to come here
We allow Islamic leaders to denigrate the U. S. and advocate violence
We find out Islamic trainees are demanding to be taught how to fly a plane, but refuse to be taught how to land, and we do nothing
It’s a valid point to mention the road stops that are already authorized here. The vehicle code and sobriety checkpoints are another instance of this.
However, how many laws are on the books that force mandatory ten to twenty year prison terms due to a first or even second drunk driving conviction?
We have people on the road with six and seven convictions. then we have illegals on the road doing what they do. And we don’t deport them.
The federal government is going postal with draconian regulations, and the fix is to assign a military division to internal military maneuvers.
We all know where this leads. The public is being seen in terms of being Al Qaeda, the Taliban, or any other terrorist organization, if they dare speak up about unconstitutional matters, and the real terrorists get a free pass, which means we have to be the focus of even more scrutiny.
Search VIPER chckpoints.
Highway searches are already here thanks to the goon squad and Janet
I it ain’t broke the feds will fix it ‘til it is.
Thanks for the mention.
Here’s an article I ran into:
It documents VIPR reams working in Tennessee to prevent terrorism. So far as I know, there aren’t any roads blocked to stop all private vehicles headed in a certain direction. There may be articles about that I missed. I’m not sure.
I found this excuse for focusing on trucking to be down-right laughable.
“The random inspections really aren’t any more thorough than normal, according to Tennessee Highway Patrol Colonel Tracy Trott who says paying attention to details can make a difference. Trott pointed out it was an Oklahoma state trooper who stopped Timothy McVeigh for not having a license plate after the Oklahoma City bombing in the early 1990s.”
Elohim City close to the Arkansas/Texas border, had at least three undercover informants on the premises. Terry McVeigh came through and one of the informants did tip off the authorities. She was quite specific too, giving the names of two possible bombing targets, one of them the Murrah building in Oklahoma City.
Didn’t need truck stop VIPR teams to prevent that bombing. We don’t need them now either.
There are no viable grounds for creating a federal police force. End of story...
This will not end well. You start seeing normal citizens as the problem, and you’ll become paranoid beyond belief. We’re seeing that. Reason has left the building...
The only difference is that, despite my bias, I saw the comment for what it actually is.
A lot of things happen around the world. Most of them don't take place here. And despite not having a federal police force on our soil prior to this time, nothing happened here with regard to trains.
I see this as merely more of a power grab, more union members, more Democrat votes.
The only difference is that, despite my bias, I saw the comment for what it actually is.
So did I. And I see it as quite logical on the face of it.
We do not need a federal police force. What we need is law enforcement and immigration enforcement that reduces the level of threat we face, so that contrivances are NOT required.