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Obama bill-paying hoax sweeps up victims nationwide: Plain Dealing
http://www.cleveland.com/consumeraffairs/index.ssf/2012/07/obama_bill-paying_rumor_sweeps.html ^

Posted on 07/11/2012 9:29:59 AM PDT by sunmars

A myth that President Obama is giving people money to pay their bills has prompted thousands of people across the country to try to pay for utilities, phone service and loans using bogus bank routing numbers.

United Way of Cleveland's 2-1-1 changed its answering machine Monday to say rumors of the Obama program were false after fielding dozens of calls.

Later that day, a United Way employee was on an RTA bus when a rider stood up and announced to fellow passengers that Obama was paying people's bills. The rider told people they could use the red numbers on the backs of their Social Security cards to tap into the government money. Steve Wertheim of United Way said the woman claimed she had successfully paid her electric bill using the technique.

Such unprompted testimonials are spreading the hoax through entire communities, putting consumers, at minimum, at risk of late payment penalties and service disruptions.

In some iterations, the bogus "Obama program" appears to be an identity theft scam. According to news reports, uniformed con men with clipboards went door to door in a handful of states, signing people up by collecting Social Security numbers and then giving them phony bank routing numbers to use to pay their bills.

But here, it seems less scam than hoax.

People aren't asking for anyone's Social Security numbers. They're passing along bogus routing numbers, apparently in the belief they're real.

(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: sourcetitlenoturl
Some idiots believe anything, if you are getting something for nothing then its not real but then again they do think he's the messiah.

Maybe they learned a lesson.

1 posted on 07/11/2012 9:30:06 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: sunmars

These stupid obama voters are getting exactly what they voted for.


2 posted on 07/11/2012 9:32:53 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: freeangel

they are as bad as that woman who voted for Obama because she believed he would pay her mortgage.


3 posted on 07/11/2012 9:36:26 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: freeangel

They give away free cell phones and minutes. They give away food stamps. They give away earned income tax credits. They give away free medical care. They give away free housing. So why not free utilities?


4 posted on 07/11/2012 9:38:26 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: sunmars

Democrat = I believe in Santa Claus........


5 posted on 07/11/2012 9:44:17 AM PDT by MrPiper
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To: sunmars
they are as bad as that woman who voted for Obama because she believed he would pay her mortgage.

I believe that woman was the inspiration for this scam. She confirmed in a public way that Obama voters really are that stupid and are just looking for a government sugar daddy.

6 posted on 07/11/2012 9:47:52 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: sunmars

Well, that explains Obama’s little bump in the polls. Call it a freeloader speed bump, cheap thrills for stupid people.


7 posted on 07/11/2012 9:49:07 AM PDT by pallis
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To: sunmars

You forgot the “...from his ‘stash’”.


8 posted on 07/11/2012 9:50:03 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: freeangel

I know it’s old stuff, but still I almost gagged listening to Zero on air yesterday saying that we’re NOT going to SPEND any more MONEY ON TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH.

HE’S SPENDING MONEY IF HE REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF MONEY HE’S SEIZING WHICH IS NOT HIS MONEY TO BEGIN WITH!

Yes his own voters are getting what they voted for but they have No Right to drag the rest of us Down into Hell along With themselves.


9 posted on 07/11/2012 9:51:18 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: sunmars

It was prophetic..............

10 posted on 07/11/2012 9:52:42 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: MrPiper

Democrat = I believe in Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, Peter Pan, Leprechauns, Unicorns and Global Warming.............


11 posted on 07/11/2012 9:55:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: sunmars
Maybe they learned a lesson.

Don't bet on it. They interviewed a BF "community organizer" on the local news who had fallen for the scheme, and one of her comments was something to the effect that this was such a logical thing that she didn't question it. She remained astonished that it was a scam all the way through the interview.

12 posted on 07/11/2012 10:07:03 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

and she is still allowed to vote, should be removed on grounds of “too stupid to tell the difference”


13 posted on 07/11/2012 10:10:03 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: from occupied ga

It might get stupid people to stay home on election day if they get burned.


14 posted on 07/11/2012 10:10:34 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: 5thGenTexan
She confirmed in a public way that Obama voters really are that stupid

Ignorance is occasionally curable provided the ignorant one isn't really stupid. Stupid is forever. Unfortunately for the rest of us the bulk of 0bama voters are et up with both.

15 posted on 07/11/2012 10:11:11 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: sunmars
and she is still allowed to vote, should be removed on grounds of “too stupid to tell the difference”

Actually that is a NECESSARY QUALIFICATION to vote democrat. She also mentioned that she was going to vote for him again. 90% of blacks voted for 0 in the last election. I'm guessing it will be down from that to maybe 88% this time around.

16 posted on 07/11/2012 10:14:07 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: sunmars
Well, since he is using our USF money to give away "Obamaphones" (real name), based upon the premise that "Communication should not be limited to people in relation to what they are able to afford," then why would other "share the wealth" things be hard to believe. http://obamaphone.net/

The Obama Phone Program

What exactly is the free Obama phone? The free Obama phone is a program that is meant to help the financially unstable who cannot afford access to a cell phone. Communication should not be limited to people in relation to what they are able to afford. The Lifeline program was actually created decades ago to help low income families have access to land lines. Over the years the cost of cell phones and cellular service has decreased and the program has been extended to cover cell phones.

During the Bush administration, there was the introduction of a project that gave subsidies to those who could not afford a phone. The basic principle of the program is that everyone should have access to emergency services like 911. There are a number of deaths that take place every year do to lack of proper communication, and access to emergency services should be a right for everyone.

The free Obama phone is an important program, especially for low income families that would otherwise not have access to basic communications. There are different plans to choose from. Some plans offer fewer minutes and more texting and some even include rollover minutes. Make sure you check out all the plans before choosing the one that is right for you

17 posted on 07/11/2012 10:16:36 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: sunmars

The cerebral Peggy Joseph of Florida is the one who made the claim that the Kenyan will pay her gas and rent.


18 posted on 07/11/2012 10:24:55 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: Oldexpat

If we have a “right” to a “living wage” and “free healthcare” why not to “free” power? The “logic” (and I use that term loosely) is exactly the same.


19 posted on 07/11/2012 10:26:29 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Behind enemy lines in the city where it's illegal to buy a Big Gulp)
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To: MrPiper

No Santa Claus ?

Awwwww damn......


20 posted on 07/11/2012 10:27:19 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: sunmars

See; Obama’s got this STASH with lots of free money, kitchens and stuff in it. If he’s re-elected, he’s even gonna send his brother who lives in the hut in Kenya some of his STASH. \s


21 posted on 07/11/2012 10:29:24 AM PDT by Twinkie (Isaiah 53)
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To: sunmars

It’s a brilliant scam but you’ll only be farming SSN’s with bad credit.


22 posted on 07/11/2012 10:30:56 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: sunmars
There is a reason some people are poor and will remain poor.
Give these people money without any sweat equity involved and
you end up with patsy's, drug users, and nuisance's to society.
23 posted on 07/11/2012 10:33:01 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: Squantos

The idiots in government should have made the phone a 911 only phone. Instead, these parasites are calling aunt natshaiachkha, their fence for food stamps and their drug dealer...or maybe allowing them to offset a phone bill and get more Colt 45. I guess the idea of working hard for what you get is so passe’.


24 posted on 07/11/2012 10:33:20 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

Agree. Slackers won’t be happy if I ever get elected President !

Stay safe.....


25 posted on 07/11/2012 10:40:41 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: hal ogen

***The idiots in government should have made the phone a 911 only phone. ***

There already is such a law. It’s for people with disabilities, and can be used ONLY for 911. The problem is just try to find a store that knows about it, and whose clerks know how to set it up. I know! I’ve tried. It’s the law, but nobody admits it.


26 posted on 07/11/2012 11:14:13 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: Oldexpat

“They give away free cell phones and minutes. They give away food stamps. They give away earned income tax credits. They give away free medical care. They give away free housing. So why not free utilities?”

When you put it that way I guess it really doesn’t sound so outrageous.


27 posted on 07/11/2012 11:38:41 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone ('We the People' can and will take this country back...starting today.)
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To: freeangel
spreading the hoax through entire communities,

NO! Wait! Let me guess which communities ...

28 posted on 07/11/2012 12:02:27 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("We have prepared for the unbeliever, whips and chains and blazing fires!" Koran Sura 76:4)
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To: sunmars
I think the title should be corrected to:

Obama hoax sweeps up victims nationwide

It started in 2008.
29 posted on 07/11/2012 12:31:20 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: 5thGenTexan
To get a great view of obozo’s voter base, in action, check out Hardcore Pawn, on the Tru TV cabel station. This pawn shop is located in Detroit, and the shop is a well run, successful operation, owned by a Caucasian father and his two adult children. The long lines of regular customers are some of the finest “out of control, gime-gime leg spreaders and sperm donors,” as well as very interesting, well-behaved folks with stories to tell...not to mention the scenic shots of Detroit decay, enough to make you shudder.

We need to see one of these pawn shop shows from cities like Chicago and Philly, for example. The uninformed need to see what some of us have to deal with...what this country has come to.

30 posted on 07/11/2012 12:36:13 PM PDT by itssme
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To: 5thGenTexan
To get a great view of obozo’s voter base, in action, check out Hardcore Pawn, on the Tru TV cabel station. This pawn shop is located in Detroit, and the shop is a well run, successful operation, owned by a Caucasian father and his two adult children. The long lines of regular customers are some of the finest “out of control, gime-gime leg spreaders and sperm donors,” as well as very interesting, well-behaved folks with stories to tell...not to mention the scenic shots of Detroit decay, enough to make you shudder.

We need to see one of these pawn shop shows from cities like Chicago and Philly, for example. The uninformed need to see what some of us have to deal with...what this country has come to.

31 posted on 07/11/2012 12:36:29 PM PDT by itssme
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To: kitkat; hal ogen

All “dead” cell phones must, by law, send 911 calls, and the carriers must complete the call.


32 posted on 07/11/2012 12:48:37 PM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: freeangel

I wonder if these folks will still vote for Obama after they discover that he did not pay for their utilities after all and that they are now deliquent on their payments because he failed to provide.


33 posted on 07/11/2012 1:31:03 PM PDT by a real Sheila (Hypocrisy, thy name is Leftist.)
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To: Red Badger

Democrat = I believe in Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, Peter Pan, Leprechauns, Unicorns and Global Warming.............

but do NOT believe in God.


34 posted on 07/11/2012 1:35:38 PM PDT by a real Sheila (Hypocrisy, thy name is Leftist.)
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To: itssme
Hardcore Pawn

One of my favorite shows. I just wish they'd scale back the "Seth hates Ashley, Ashley hates Seth" rhetoric. No brother and sister could hate each other so much and continue to work in the same place day after day. One would eventually kill the other one.

Plus, I haven't seen a new episode in a long time, the reruns are monotonous.

Swamp People is another good one.

35 posted on 07/11/2012 2:11:58 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: itssme
Hardcore Pawn

I find it absolutely amazing how often people come in with some obvious piece of cr@p and expect the shop to be willing to loan $100.00 on it just because they "need" the money.

Personally, I could not run a shop like that because I would probably end up shooting 2-3 people a week.

36 posted on 07/11/2012 3:37:54 PM PDT by tpmintx (Problem: The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: itssme

I guess I’ll try a few episodes of Hardcore Pawn, but I get too depressed watching the repo shows. Idiots think that they own a car just because they picked it out and put down a few hundred on it. They don’t realize that without these brave repo guys looking out for the interests of loan companies, only rich people could afford cars without financing the purchase.


37 posted on 07/11/2012 4:04:16 PM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: sunmars

Two guesses as to the race of the suckers in this Obama-related hoax.


38 posted on 07/11/2012 5:34:38 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Graybeard58
I with you on the Seth hates Ashley bit, enough with that. That type of thing ruined one of my other favorite shows "American Chopper". There is no need in that type of family feuding being shown on TV, keep the skeletons in the closet.

They have a good show without all that rudeness between siblings, there is no need in acting like their customers. People I know are already complaining about that as well.

People really need to watch this show to see the REAL OBAMA VOTERS in all their glory. This show is full of his organized supporters and we wonder what has happened to America? Wonder no longer, when you hear those women talking "TRASH" non stop when trying to make a deal with worthless "Bling".

I am surprised that the NAACP does not come down on this TRUE LIFE display of their people, not the shows fault, the blacks should be so ashamed, but they are not. They seem to think the American Normal is to behave like animals, finger signs, pants on the ground, bare butt wiggling, cursing non stop F words, "yo gonna gives me my Fing money I ain't Fing leaving till I gets some Fing money, don't you Fing tuch me"

Sure should make any Black proud, but it's their own creation. Oh well. Gives us a laugh of disgust, and a prayer of "There but for the Grace of God, go I".

39 posted on 07/12/2012 12:00:17 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: tpmintx

So true.


40 posted on 07/12/2012 12:00:48 AM PDT by itssme
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To: Graybeard58
I think new episodes are coming up next week?? I'll check Google for episode updates. I agree the Seth and Ashley routine needs to be dialed back...but I do believe they do bicker like they do...it runs in some families. All in all, great TV viewing.
41 posted on 07/12/2012 12:05:05 AM PDT by itssme
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To: freeangel

Fox channel 2 in San Francisco interviewed 3 women 3 days ago about being ‘victims’ of this scam. 1st woman told the 2nd—2nd told the 3rd, etc.

They had to give up personal information such as Soc Sec numbers & their bank account routing numbers to get “their utility bills paid by Obama”. Their bank accounts were cleaned out.

Need I tell you they all were from Oakland & that they all were black?? I would guess their ages between 28 & 45.

The 1st one said she “would NOT vote for Obama this NOvember because ‘he took my money’”.

First, they are dumb enough to fall for this scam & second, they are equally dumb enough to blame Obama for ‘taking their money’.

The entertainment factor for me when watching the activities in the Bay Area are myriad and endless.......


42 posted on 07/12/2012 10:46:20 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: freeangel

Who wants to bet the builders of this scam are also black??


43 posted on 07/12/2012 10:47:23 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: sunmars; 5thGenTexan; Calvin Locke; muir_redwoods
Optimism?...optimism? why sure..here's some quotes from true believers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

OBAMA'S GONNA PAY FOR MY GAS...
Millions like her voted... SCRIPT:
"It was the most memorable time of my life. It was a touching moment because I never thought this day would ever happen. I won't have to worry about putting gas in my car. I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage. You know, if I help him, he's gonna help me."
- Peggy Joseph Oct 30, 2008


Obama’s Stash (Oct 8, 2009)
new audio today from Ken Rogulski of WJR. Detroit Free Press: "'Cobo a Scene of Desperation' --

"Some were treated by emergency medical workers on site," as they showed up to pick up Obama money. "It was one of the most dramatic signs to date of how deeply joblessness and the home foreclosure crisis have pushed people from the lower and middle ends of the economic scale to seek help wherever they can.

ROGULSKI: Why are you here?
WOMAN #1: To get some money.
ROGULSKI: What kind of money?
WOMAN #1: Obama money.
ROGULSKI: Where's it coming from?
WOMAN #1: Obama.
ROGULSKI: And where did Obama get it?
WOMAN #1: I don't know, his stash. I don't know. (laughter) I don't know where he got it from, but he givin' it to us, to help us.
WOMAN #2: And we love him.
WOMAN #1: We love him. That's why we voted for him!
WOMEN: (chanting) Obama! Obama! Obama! (laughing)
ROGULSKI: Did you get an application to fill out yet?
WOMAN: I sure did. And I filled it out, and I am waiting to see what the results are going to be.
ROGULSKI: Will you know today how much money you're getting?
WOMAN: No, I won't, but I'm waiting for a phone call.
ROGULSKI: Where's the money coming from?
WOMAN: I believe it's coming from the City of Detroit or the state.
ROGULSKI: Where did they get it from?
WOMAN: Some funds that was forgiven (sic) by Obama.
ROGULSKI: And where did Obama get the funds? BR> WOMAN: Obama getting the funds from... Ummm, I have no idea, to tell you the truth. He's the president.
ROGULSKI: In downtown Detroit, Ken Rogulski, WJR News.

Hence the Obama voters run from scam to entitlements to temporary safety net to permanent hammocks:



44 posted on 07/12/2012 11:05:08 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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