Skip to comments.Professor: 'Jesus was a Muslim'
Posted on 07/11/2012 2:32:01 PM PDT by oliverdarcy
The head of the religion department at Luther College in Iowa recently argued that Jesus Christ, the central figure of Christianity, was in fact, a Muslim.
Was Jesus a Muslim?" asks Prof. Robert F. Shedinger in the beginning of a book he published this year entitled Was Jesus a Muslim? " I will answer with a very qualified yes."
In a recent interview Shedinger also defended his controversial thesis explaining that a Muslim undergraduate student had sent him on academic odyssey that culminated with him asking himself "Was Jesus a Muslim?"
"Even as a Christian I have to answer yes to that," said Shedinger, who is the head of the religion department at Luther College in Iowa.
Shedinger also argued that Islam is a better fit for Jesus since it is not a religion but a social justice movement.
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Luther College as in Martin Luther?
I’m a Missouri Synod gal. For those of you who don’t know, Matt Harrison who spoke at the congressional hearing for the HHS contraception mandate, is LC-MS as well. The main difference between ELCA and LC-MS is that ELCA doesn’t believe the Word of God to be true, and the LC-MS does.
Check out this Youtube video. :)
Thank you, I had no idea things had progressed this far. I’ll check out the video.
But how can they lay claim to any of that since Islam wasn’t “invented” until AD600 or thereabouts?
A Prof just selling his book. Most are happy making their students buy their latest version.
This guy is greedy.
Professor of religious studies. Like being an astronomer
cause I know about astronomical studies.
But the Christ, y’know, the Yeshua guy, will forgive the
professor, if he repents from his sin of unbelief.
There is still hope in Gods promises. And God is not
capricious in his willingness to forgive repentants.
How can you be a member of a religion that wasnt founded yet?One of the Simons had a flux capacitor.
I’m a Catholic. Matthew Harrison is one of my heroes! His anti-HHS testimony was stand-up-and-cheer thrilling!
...but how did they generate the 1.21 Gigawatts?
One more compelling argument for the abolition of tenure.You are so right.
And you wonder How America got So Screwed up with people like This being the role model other people PAYING for an education have to suck up to to earn their degree.
These are the people who produce the Morons that enact public policy throughout Every sector of our daily lives.
Was it not amazing? My whole family is Lutheran, and my relatively unemotional dad started crying during that speech (if you ask my mom, anyway), he was so moved. My husband and his supervising pastor (he is on vicarage learning to be a pastor) cheered also. I was stuck at work. :p
(But I later found out how awesome it had been!)
I have to tell you—I respect Catholics far more than I respect ELCAs.
Prof. Robert F. Shedinger is a witch and should be burned at the stake.
""Robert F. Shedinger is an Associate Professor of Religion at Luther College where he teaches courses primarily in Biblical Studies and Islamic Studies. He holds a Ph.D. in Religious Studies from Temple University and an M.Div. from Eastern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is the author of numerous articles, book chapters, and books. His most recent book is Was Jesus a Muslim? Questioning Categories in the Study of Religion (Fortress Press, 2009). He has been a regular speaker in mosques and Islamic Centers around the country.
Topics on which Prof. Shedinger can speak:
The stipend is negotiable depending on context.
Office phone: 563-387-1276""
Hey, like Obama, Rahm(HARM)Emanuel, Holder, Pelosi, and Reed believe if you tell a lie often enough, long enough, and you actually believe it, eventually, others will believe it too!
Can anyone come up with facet of Islam that is remotely oriented towards social justice as we understand it (unless, of course, you define ‘Social Justice” as beheading all of the infidels in society who disagree with your particular interpretation of the Koran)
I knew Luther was a liberal school. Didn’t realize it was insane.
Sorry I’m late to this party, just got on FR and what do I see but this lunacy! What on God’s earth is this professor smoking?
Yep. ELCA college.
And he couldn’t even schedule it around Eastertime.
How do you say “my brains were scrabled then sucked out by aliens” because that is apparently what happened to this professor’s. And at a Lutheran College?.. I suggest he go read about what the Bible actually says Jesus purpose was here on earth, and for good measure go read Martin Luthor’s belief about faith through Grace, alone..
Really inconsistent (or stupid..literally, either that or so blind by Satan spirtually/these may be the same thing..).
They don’t want to believe Jesus (in what He actually lived, did and said), therefore they call Him a “liar”, but they also claim that Jesus actually was a good person/prophet or whatever. He doesn’t give us that option, either He told the Truth (and was the Truth and the Way and The Life) or He’s not.. Give ya a clue (to those who don’t believe, not that you personally don’t TS..) HE IS
No, no! They love this crap. From the article:
The administration is very very comfortable with the proposal, with the book, and with what his statements about this situation are, said Jerry Johnson, the schools Director of Public Information. [T]he ground he is breaking with this book is not anything exactly earthshaking.
Johnson added that Shedingers thesis had not stirred up on any controversy or opposition on campus where the members or our religion department are very respecting and have great respect for each others work.
If I were on this faculty, I would write a book saying that Mohamhead was actually a Christian, but he went insane and dreamed up a really warped religion that went against everything Christianity stood for. He just pretended it was the Religion of Peace.
These crackheads, by their own admission, would respect my thesis.
That is truly scary. How can you be a member of a religion that wasnt founded yet?
Bah! It’s easy. In today’s academia you simply forget all about that. Like you forget that there is a sun, a photo-chemical process called photosynthesis and a Medieval Warm Period.
Narrative confirmed! Kneel before my gigantic intellect, you naysaying deniers.
They consider Islam (lit "submission") to be the first and natural religion of every person who has ever lived: the first religion of Adam and Eve, and of every human being. Every baby is considered a Muslim, at least incipiently.
Thus Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus, etc. were Muslims: because they (by their definition)"submitted" to God.
The kink comes in when they say that the Jews and the Christians produced perverted Scriptures which actually diverged from the real, divinely commanded truth. Thus the (OT and NT) Scriptural accounts Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus were false, but only because the Jewish and Christian Scriptures covered up the truth about these holy Muslim prophets.
It's all extremely dubious, since there is no archeological, documentary/bibliographic, or historic evidence of what the Muslims say. And as you may notice from their history,they are avid to destroy ancient archaeological sites. But --- aside from lack of evidence!! --- their view is consistent with THEIR Scriptures, and that's enough for them.
Thanks for that info. I always thought it started with Mohammad. Now you’ve got me interested in doing some research. Regards, Janey
To this day, Islamic "scholars" sternly forbid Muslims to do serious evidence-based study about the ancient history or "roots" of any culture --- inluding their own!
Can we get this guy permanently Bronzed?
This, IS Open Heart Surgery on American Academia under an Electron Microscope.
“If the glove doesn’t fit, you must acquit.”
“When History doesn’t Fit, you must Ignore It!”
You want to talk about Dangerous, Subversive CULTS?
You’re not just Looking at it. You’re PAYING for it.
Maybe he’s just welcoming his coming Muslim overlords?
Maybe he’s just welcoming his coming Muslim overlords?
This is the price of what’s been repackaged and misrepresented as ‘Tolerance’.
For as G.K. Chesterton said.
“Tolerance is the virtue of a man who no longer believes in anything.”
(More like about AD 635)
Only because Mohammed said so. That's it.
Another oddity is the relates to the artistic nature of the written Arabic. Orthodox Islam teaches that one cannot possibly understand or even read the Koran (as it's the holy language which God dictated (not inspired, like the Bible) to Mohammed himself)--UNLESS you read it in the original Arabic. Observant Muslims therefore MUST learn Arabic...
This allows Muslim scholars to dismiss most Western critics of Islam--as supposedly misunderstanding, or mistranslating any given Koranic verse. It's actually forbidden for Muslims to read translations...
That would be like expecting ALL Christians to learn Greek--otherwise we could not read the New Testament... Think how stultifying that would be...(and how Greek civilization would therefore become religiously--and culturally-- imperialistic...)This is a reason why Arab culture is so dominant in Islam, as to them God only speaks Arabic (and if you don't...who are you to tell them about God?)
And of course...the most notorious doctrine--agreed on by all four major schools of Islamic law--is that any Muslim (and all you have to do to BE a Muslim is to be born of a Muslim father (see Obama...)) who apostates--stops believing Islam (by becoming a Christian...or Hindu...or atheist...)--SHOULD BE EXECUTED. That's right--even so called moderate Muslims accept this, as it's plainly stated in the Koran--and all varieties of Muslims accept it as dogma.
It's really a very (very) irrational religion, on a very basic level.
One can be a moderate Muslim....but only by being moderately (not fully) Muslim, as there is no real "moderate" Islam.