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Witness 9 Claims George Zimmerman Molested Her! (DETAILS)
Global grind.com ^ | 7/16/12 | The Decider

Posted on 07/16/2012 9:13:27 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Special prosecutor Angela Corey just released more than 120 recorded phone calls that murder suspect George Zimmerman made from the Seminole County Jail...

Also released is the statement of "Witness 9," a woman who says Zimmerman is prejudiced against blacks and that he molested her when she was a child.

(Excerpt) Read more at m.globalgrind.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: chessplayer
If found innocent the Zimmerman family had better leave the country altogether because they will be hunted down and killed if they don’t.

Nonsense. When the charges are dismissed at an SYG hearing, the Trayvonistas will be the ones leaving the country with their trashcans full of cash and a whole lot of people chasing them down for their promised cut of the action. There are a lot people with their hands out in this and they will want their cut.

201 posted on 07/16/2012 9:01:01 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Real Cynic No More
I never did try to kiss someone I was prejudiced against.

So you admit it!! haha

202 posted on 07/16/2012 9:18:47 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (It is going to be Foot to Ass combat on election day....my foot and a Rat's ass.)
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To: Real Cynic No More
Why in the sam hill does trying to kiss a black person mean you're prejudiced against them?

Where did you get the idea Witness#9 is black? She's "white hispanic".

203 posted on 07/16/2012 9:25:24 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Literals will believe anything.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

FWIW, Casey Anthony’s (highly incriminating) jail phone calls and videos were released before her trial. She walked anyway.


204 posted on 07/16/2012 9:33:53 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: SoFloFreeper

0bama ate dogs when he was that age.


205 posted on 07/16/2012 9:59:23 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Uncle Chip
Witness #9 – Christina Meza, Cousin of George Zimmerman, aka Christina Johnson, Daughter of “Mike” Luis Miguel Meza, who is the brother to Gladys (Georges Mom).

Thanks for the info.

206 posted on 07/16/2012 10:11:24 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: butterdezillion
Somebody earlier gave a quote by Judge Lester, basically saying that those who believe Zimmerman is racist will pounce on this and those who don’t won’t believe it anyway.

Well, he did sign off on this specific witness, Witness # 9.  I don't understand what compelling need there was for the community to hear something that wasn't actionable, and was unsubstantiated.  How would the judge view some witness saying his wife was a whore?  Would he feel compelled to release that to the media as well?

So yes, he did sign off on this stuff being released. The question I have is this: Who is ever gonna talk to the police candidly about anything, if everything that gets said to the police can be paraded around in the national media?

Yes he did.  Your question seems a reasonable one.  I don't have an answer.  If he is releasing this information in a manner that information is generally released, I would have to state that it mustn't be causing the problems you and I would expect.  Not that that is a valid enough reason to do it.  Why not release the information after the trial.  What's the hurry.  This case has seen so much information dump.  It was my take that the prosecution generally held things close to the vest until after the trial.  Evidently I was wrong.

This gal may have just been giving her gut-level thoughts to the police; she said flat-out that she never saw him exhibiting racist behavior. But at this point what’s being done is libel, within a legal context. Could Zimmerman sue her for libel?

I don't know.  It certainly seems to me he should have some recourse.  It also seems to me that the judge and prosecuting attorney should share in the responsibility for that libel.  There was no compelling reason to release this to the public.

At this point it seems to me that the JUDGE and PROSECUTOR are engaging in libel by releasing what appears to be totally baseless accusations.

Yes, we're on the same page with regard to that.  I agree.

Next is Judge Lester going to let the public hear everything that a battered wife says to the police about her husband - (never mind whether her husband will find out and kill her for talking; consequences be damned, right, Judge Lester?)? How about interviews where rape victims give the gory details of the rape? Is all that public information - and totally acceptable in the eyes of a judge because people are going to believe what they want to believe anyway?

I doubt that every detail of rapes are reported.  Further, some details for high crimes are sometimes kept secret so that the authorities can verify that a suspect is the actual killer.  Should all judges now feel compelled to reveal that information too?  I mean the public has a right to know, and that seems to trump every other concern.

Nobody can see the records which show whether or not multiple government offices at both state and federal levels have actually committed fraud, perjury, forgery, and misprision of a bunch of different felonies involving Obama’s records - all because of some phony interest in “privacy” - and yet this crapola judge allows unsubstantiated claims to be aired all over the country so that an accused man will NEVER be able to get a fair trial.

I agree.  It also fails the sniff test when the information is totally unrelated to the case the information was gleaned for.  What if a witness protection person was interviewed?  Should the public get the name and information and whereabouts of that person too?  There are all sorts of reasons to withhold information that is tainted, unproven, and just merely an accusation.

I thought it was impossible for me to feel more contempt for our lawless judicial system than I already do but alas, the system is going farther into negative territory than I thought even existed.


Some of this may be your and my misunderstanding of what normally takes place.  This may in fact not be that out of line at all.  I think it's a flawed policy.  I may be right and I might be wrong.

I don't see the rational reason for releasing this neighbor's story.  I don't want to mischaracterize it, but it just stinks IMO.

Thanks for the comments.

207 posted on 07/17/2012 12:05:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Yep. Thanks for the mention of the name. I appreciate it.


208 posted on 07/17/2012 12:11:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: butterdezillion

<>Somebody earlier gave a quote by Judge Lester, basically saying that those who believe Zimmerman is racist will pounce on this and those who don’t won’t believe it anyway.<>

Right here from Lester’s Order releasing Witness#9’s statement:

“In this Court’s opinion, application of the McCrary test requires the disclosure of this statement. The public discussion relating to this case indicates that the Defendant’s attitude towards race may be an issue at trial. Adding this statement to the discourse will simply be another piece of the puzzle to be relied upon by those who want to believe that there was a racial motive to the shooting, and will be dismissed by those who claim there is no such motive.”

http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/order%20denying%20reconsideration%20of%20release.pdf


209 posted on 07/17/2012 3:53:50 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Seems kind of shady justice to determine what should be done according to

"The public discussion relating to this case..."

210 posted on 07/17/2012 4:00:27 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: All

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/07/16/witness-9-christina-meza-aka-christina-johnson-daughter-of-mike-luis-miguel-meza-who-is-the-brother-to-gladys-georges-mom/


211 posted on 07/17/2012 4:04:17 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

No kidding.

Has everyone totally forgotten the tapes released of Casey Anthony talking to her parents?

The defense should have known the tapes were being made and would be released.


212 posted on 07/17/2012 6:33:29 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: Kickass Conservative

“Zimmerman was a Coach at Penn State?”

Did you hear they moved the statue of Joe Paterno from the front of the football stadium to the front of the campus library? They moved it there to remind people to keep quiet.


213 posted on 07/17/2012 7:31:05 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: kanawa; butterdezillion; DoughtyOne; SoFloFreeper; 2ndDivisionVet

Here — the newest revelation — tape #30

How did the prosecution miss it or did they???

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/07/17/this-is-going-to-get-way-worse-quickly-really-quickly/

The lawyers in this case got some splaining to do.


214 posted on 07/17/2012 7:50:28 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: kanawa
Apparently Witness #9 tried shopping her story to media, and was pre-interviewed by them. They know her identity.

Funny how they outed the defense favorable witness IDs but are keeping this girl's identity hush-hush.

215 posted on 07/17/2012 7:58:11 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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To: onemiddleamerican

Her DUI mugshot is precious.


216 posted on 07/17/2012 8:29:45 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sniff...sniff... This one smells like absolute, complete, and total bullsh*t.

They’re doing everything they can to hang Zimmerman.


217 posted on 07/17/2012 9:12:32 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

It does not matter what our opinions are. And you have to know that many defense atty’s have used the “tainted jury pool” argument before the bench when asking that the judge prevent the jail from releasing the body of the taped phone calls to the press. It never works. You have no right to privacy in a jail. The signs are there and you are told when you are admitted to the jail. Those calls are public. It is not just law enforcement who of course would have access. It is the press also.


218 posted on 07/17/2012 10:57:52 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Also, I hope you know I am not saying this is right..or wrong. It just is the law. I have never seen an atty have any success in asking the judge to stop the jail from releasing the phone calls to the public. This does not mean it has never happened. And every state is different. But Florida in particular is called the sunshine state for a reason. Everything in the justice system is made public. Hence, the sunshine state law.


219 posted on 07/17/2012 11:00:24 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: DallasSun; Las Vegas Ron

I wonder what you thought of this Dallas. It is from phone call #30 that was released yesterday:

“In a phone call recorded April 14 between Zimmerman and a friend named Scott, the two discuss the new defense lawyer and the attorney’s vision for an upcoming bond hearing. Zimmerman tells his friend that he told his new attorney, Mark O’Mara, that he tried to transfer $37,000 from his online legal defense fund site, but could not complete the transaction because of PayPal rules that prevent transfers larger than $10,000.

He twice mentions telling O’Mara about the money.

“He said he’s going to have me declared indigent,” Zimmerman told his friend. “I told him I didn’t think that would be possible, because there was one sizable transfer I tried to make. It got stopped. You know, $37. He said: ‘Well that doesn’t matter. Right now you’re not working. You’re not providing an income for your family. You’re probably not going to be employable for the rest of your life.’”

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/16/2898502_p2/jail-call-says-defense-attorney.html#storylink=cpy

He twice mentions telling O’Mara about the money.


220 posted on 07/17/2012 11:16:17 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: PghBaldy; DallasSun
FWIW, Casey Anthony’s (highly incriminating) jail phone calls and videos were released before her trial. She walked anyway.

I know, and I get your point.

It's just a bug a boo of mine seeing our Justice System corrupted this way, not that this hasn't been happening for a long while though.

The system isn't about truth, it's about building careers and reputations to earn millions.

It really ticks me off to see high profile cases tried in the court of public opinion rather then the court room where it belongs.

221 posted on 07/17/2012 11:29:41 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Uncle Chip

Thanks for the ping Uncle Chip.

This whole thing is so far out of hand, I can’t believe this is happening in the USA.


222 posted on 07/17/2012 11:35:05 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Uncle Chip

BTW, did you notice in the key words “nifongism”?

LOL!


223 posted on 07/17/2012 11:37:04 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Something is wrong with the state’s newest discovery release. The full 284 page release is somehow not available despite them saying so. There appear to be two glaring sensitive areas that they are trying to hide:

1] Despite the state claiming that the entire autopsy has been released, there is no toxicology report. [Martin’s drug use]

2]And Tracy Martin’s original phone company phone bill is absent. Instead they substituted a cut and paste phone bill. [Martin’s phone contacts and whether he was really on the phone with Dee Dee during those times alleged]

All this other stuff was and is just so much smoke and mirrors.


224 posted on 07/17/2012 12:05:24 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Chip, I do not believe this for a minute. I have a great respect for O’Mara. There is not a dishonest bone in his body. Had he known about that account, he would have revealed it to the court. What do you think?


225 posted on 07/17/2012 1:52:35 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Ron, I agree with you. But this is not new. It is not as though this is a new law. It has been this way for years. I always cringe when they release these tapes and take the risk of tainting the jury pool. But again, the inmates are told and told again that they have no reason to expect any privacy and these phone calls are taped and are then part of the public record. I cannot imagine how O’Mara felt when he heard these tapes. This can drive a defense atty crazy.


226 posted on 07/17/2012 1:55:45 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Chip, I have not read your posts re: the molestation charge but it should not be admissable. Even if true, they were both children and has nothing to do with this case. And I have a real problem with the story. I am not calling her a liar and I know there is alot I do not know but........ there are problems with this story I think. The jury surely will not hear any of this hopefully.


227 posted on 07/17/2012 2:00:58 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Ouderkirk

“I was 16 when my wife was BORN.”

Well. . . argh. . .nope. . .can’t do it. . .too many jokes possible on that one.

;-)


228 posted on 07/17/2012 2:11:22 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Uncle Chip

Chip, do you remember in the second bail hearing, O’Mara told the judge that Zimmerman should have stood up during his wife’s testimony and said to him out loud that what she was saying was not true. The judge said...”at least a tug on the sleeve.” And O’Mara said, “Yes, at least a tug on the sleeve.” There is no way O’Mara knew before that first bail hearing about the account.


229 posted on 07/17/2012 2:14:11 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Witness #9 (see the Conservative Tree House):

Guilty or not guilty?

230 posted on 07/17/2012 2:31:48 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: DallasSun
Chip, I do not believe this for a minute.

It's tape #30 and everyone can hear it for themselves. It's the Florida Sunshine Law, you know. And it cannot be hidden.

O'Mara is an officer of the court and there is a tape #30 indicating that he knew about the Paypal account and atleast $37,000 in it as early as April 14th, one week before the April 20th bond hearing, and that tape was in the hands of the prosecution for 3 months, and O'Mara and the state and court have the audacity to berate the defendant and his wife for not telling something that they all already knew that the officer of the court O'Mara knew before the hearing.

That, my friend, is audacity -- and duplicity. The only people who can lie in court and get away with it are lawyers -- and they have lied bigtime here.

231 posted on 07/17/2012 2:49:27 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: DallasSun
The prosecution released Witness #9's tapes because they say that they may want to call her as a bad character witness if need be against Zimmerman. But just what kind of bad character witness could she be??? She is carrying so much baggage that she would be a poor character witness.

So why would the prosecution want her as a witness at all. They can't possibly think that she would help their case in the least. I think they did it because she is a Zimmerman after all and this further disparages the Zimmerman clan.

232 posted on 07/17/2012 2:59:24 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: cynwoody

Guilty of DUI and being a nutcase.

http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Seminole-County-FL/Cristina-Meza.2640223/details/


233 posted on 07/17/2012 3:03:25 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: DallasSun
There is no way O’Mara knew before that first bail hearing about the account.

Everyone in that courtroom knew about it and they were all playing dumb. When the subject was breached in open court why didn't he tug on Zimmerman's sleeve and ask him about it??? Because he knew about it already and everyone else did as well and they were just feigning ignorance until they had filed for indigent status.

234 posted on 07/17/2012 3:09:15 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Then they would use her testimony during sentencing. They will not..should not...be able to use her in the case in chief.


235 posted on 07/17/2012 3:18:03 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Then they would use her testimony during sentencing. They will not..should not...be able to use her in the case in chief.


236 posted on 07/17/2012 3:18:23 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Uncle Chip

It is so difficult for me to believe that O’Mara lied or that he stood by and listened to Zimmerman and his wife lie to the court. That is a crime. Perjury. And he stood by and allowed them to do so?? I really liked O’Mara, Chip. And yes, I know about the Fla Sunshine Law. I am pondering.....Just the thought of him allowing them to commit perjury. The chance it would be found out...does irreparable harm to his reputation. Still pondering......And the harm it did to the Zimmermans. He had to know it would not serve them well. As I said in an earlier post, there is not a judge in Fla who does not know they lied to the court. So it truly does them no good to change judges. And I like this judge...But what do I know?


237 posted on 07/17/2012 3:23:31 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Guilty of DUI and being a nutcase.

The DUI arrest was in 2007. Do we know what its ultimate disposition was?

238 posted on 07/17/2012 3:34:01 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: DallasSun
It is so difficult for me to believe that O’Mara lied or that he stood by and listened to Zimmerman and his wife lie to the court. That is a crime. Perjury. And he stood by and allowed them to do so?? I really liked O’Mara, Chip.

O'Mara certainly came across as the polished professional at pains to make sure the case was handled absolutely correctly.

However, everybody knew about GZ's web site and the PayPal account before he was arrested. Indeed, his first lawyers mentioned the site when they announced their withdrawal from the case. So, how did O'Mara manage to get a week into the case without asking George, Now about this PayPal account ... ? Why didn't the prosecutors at the bail hearing want to hear from Shellie's brother in law about the account balance?

239 posted on 07/17/2012 3:50:42 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

I was not aware that Zimmerman’s first attys mentioned the website. Now, knowing they did, shows O’Mara had to. I cannot imagine what he was thinking. For it to be so public then, he took a huge risk standing by and allowing perjury. It was O’Mara’s responsibility then to make the court aware of the account. I do not remember what Zimmerman’s wife said about the brother in law’s availability. Can you tell me, please? I remember her saying he would be the one who would know how much was in it. Even at that time, I knew she had to be lying. But never did I think O’Mara knew about the amt.


240 posted on 07/17/2012 4:11:53 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: DallasSun
And he stood by and allowed them to do so??

Not just O'Mara but Corey and BDLR. The prosecution had this tape all along. They had it when they filed for revocation of bail and when they charged Zimmerman's wife with perjury.

They had this tape as hard cold evidence that their charges were untrue but charged anyway.

241 posted on 07/17/2012 4:11:58 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Absolutely. They had to have reviewed the tape at that time one would think. I cannot imagine that they had not.


242 posted on 07/17/2012 4:14:04 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: DallasSun
there is not a judge in Fla who does not know they lied to the court.

And by tomorrow there won't be a judge in Florida who will not have heard tape #30 and know that they did tell an officer of the court about the Paypal account.

Shellie Zimmerman faces arraignment later this month on perjury charges. You can better believe that if I were her I would play that tape for the judge and ask that all charges be dismissed pronto.

243 posted on 07/17/2012 4:20:02 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip; All

fyi...

http://justice4juveniles.blogspot.ca/2011/12/did-angela-corey-mislead-public-about.html

“In the past, Corey has claimed that it was never her intention to subject 12 year old Cristian Fernandez to life in prison. She expressed confidence that the State Attorney’s office and the public defenders office would reach a plea deal. The defense rejected the plea deal because it required Cristian to carry a murder conviction on his record for the rest of his life - something that would seriously inhibit his ability to find employment or a place to live upon release. Another problem with the plea deal is that it exposed Cristian to possibly having to serve three of the last years of the sentence in an adult prison.

Though Corey informed the public and the media she never intended for Cristian to serve a sentence of life in prison, a trial date for Cristian was subsequently set for February 27 of 2012. If convicted, the mandatory sentence is life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Due to Corey’s recent handling of this case, an advocate for Cristian started a petition to remove Angela Corey from office.

But that’s not all...

In response to the defense’s rejection of the State Attorney’s plea, Angela Corey informed the media that she would be seeking an additional indictment for the alleged sexual molestation [when CF was 8-10 yrs old] of one of Cristian’s sibling. According to a brief made available by the Florida Times Union, Corey knew about this allegation earlier this year. She has made no effort to seek an indictment on this charge until now. The timing is highly suspicious in light of Corey’s statements and behavior relating to this entire case.”

~~~~~

It appears her object was,

in the event of his being found not guilty of a charge she never expected to win on and that was only filed to pressure an acceptance of a plea deal,

to have him registered as a sex offender for the rest of his life

h/t to KZ at...
http://www.realitychatter.com/t4068-witness-9-statements-discussion-george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-case


244 posted on 07/17/2012 4:23:34 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: cynwoody

Whatever it was was insufficient. They should have taken away her cellphone privileges until she was 30. It would have saved everyone a lot of grief — including her husband and children.


245 posted on 07/17/2012 4:24:52 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: kanawa
But that’s not all...

She just likes to pile on. When she has the defendant down and out, she likes to just keep piling on, and punching, and hitting, and slamming his head, and choking -- OOOO WOW -- just like Trayvon Martin that night.

No wonder she is doing all this to convict Zimmerman. She's trying to finish the job that Trayvon started. They're cut from the same mold.

I'll bet late at night she even pops a few Skittles and chugs down an Arizona watermelon juice to Trayvon's memory.

246 posted on 07/17/2012 4:40:37 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Chip, your reasoning escapes me. Telling an officer of the court does not excuse perjury. She was still bound by the oath she took. She still lied. She still committed perjury.


247 posted on 07/17/2012 4:51:23 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: DallasSun
She still lied.You do realize that in the court's document charging her that they never identified "the lie". It's like charging someone with a crime and not identifying the crime.
248 posted on 07/17/2012 5:18:27 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Las Vegas Ron

You are right.


249 posted on 07/17/2012 5:53:40 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: Hulka
Well. . . argh. . .nope. . .can’t do it. . .too many jokes possible on that one.

I suppose that I should have been more clear that she was 25 when I married her.

250 posted on 07/17/2012 7:13:11 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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