Posted on 07/16/2012 12:57:11 PM PDT by JimWayne
No matter who wins the election in November, a Communist will occupy the White House. However, a Romney win has an added disadvantage. It will strengthen the Communist grip over the GOP.
Right now, there is a struggle between the Tea Party and the Trotskyite neocons for the control of the GOP. If Romney is defeated, it will give a boost to the Tea Party. If he wins, it could be over for the Tea Party.
The RINO GOP establishment has opposed every Tea Party candidate and has ganged up with the Democrats whenever it seemed like a Tea Party candidate would win. It started with NY-23 and then they opposed the TP candidates in other states. In AK, when the establishment candidate lost the primaries, they ran her as an independent, but they now expect us to unite and support a Comiecare pioneer.
It is time for payback and at least save the GOP and vote against every RINO. Four more years of Obama cannot be worse than four years of Mittens, and with good candidates in the House and Senate, Obama's agenda can be blunted, but Mittens winning and strengthening the RINO grip on GOP will put America in an extremely dangerous situation.
A request to Mitt Romney supporters. Stop posting your propaganda here. Don't you get it? Mitt Romney is unwanted here.
If you no longer wish to participate or donate to this pro-life, pro-liberty forum, then by all means, bailout. But don’t act surprised or mislead. The fact that this forum is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-liberty is plainly and clearly stated on our home page at the top of every one of our forum index pages. You’d have to blind not to see it. Or willfully negligent.
That makes a total of 2 people that understand me and I know my wife doesn’t count. I’m not trying to start arguments either, although some may want one.
We are supposed to all be on the same side......but reading some comments, you’d never know it.
That specific concept is a new one to me and I’ll look into it more. That’s why I was asking JR for some additional comments.
It would be one explanation of the inexplicable behavior of the GOP in recent times (Dole, McLame, ROmney) and why there is so little difference in the net effect of both parties for a long, long time.
It sound like the “NO ROMNEY UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES” believers (no offense intended) kinda has written POTUS off and is going to focus on Congress. Am I reading that correctly?
THX
Knee-jerk reaction? Check.
Ad hominem? Check.
QED
Talking about it behind my back doesn't make it any different. The fact that you will talk about anything but speaks volumes.
You just have to show your ignorance. That is not how things work on the internet. I am not the one who accesses your computer. Your browser sends a GET message and requests data from the FR server. The data you see is what you requested. Looks like Commiecare supporters are dumb.
If you actually believe this country would not be better off with Romney than Obama you should seek professional help.
Never cared for Rove and always wondered how he acquired so much power.
Thanks for the many years of hospitality, leadership and humor, JimRob! I think, however, it’s time for me to leave this forum to you and the Sacred 240.
All the best
Yeah, and they presented us with John McCain and told us he was the real "conservative" and people like Arlen Specter were "moderates" who could attract the Democrat vote and were therefore precious. Real conservatives were labeled extremists and fringe elements. We aren't falling for this anymore.
When are you going to start being positive about anything?
Your negativity is killing FR and you can’t see it or feel it?
What the heck happened to the Old Jim Robinson who made it to all those rallies fighting for conservative values no matter hell or high water?
What are you doing to your own website that many of us have supported for years?
Over Romney, you’ve thrown many devoted supporters under the dang bus?
That’s not loyalty to FRiends Jim!, just because of Romney?
What happened to you?
First of all, there's no feigning our indignation of the Ruling Class foisting their choice upon us after working with the MarxoFascists to destroy EVERY SINGLE CONSERVATIVE EVEN POTENTIALLY RUNNING in November.
Second, the only shame deserved is for those whom have betrayed Conservative and Christian principles in favor of expediency or out of fear. Conservatives have been doing this for decades now, and that is what is truly pathetic because the fruits of this same old manner of thinking are manifest.
Plus, that thinking has been used against us by the Ruling Class to their advantage and to the detriment of ours and liberty.
Get OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE, GET IN LINE, AND REMOVE THE CRIMINALS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE
And if you actually think voting is going to remove these MarxoFascists from office, YOU would be the one who is pathetically ignorant of who these people really are, and where we have already arrived.
I am sick of hearing about the conservative movement
So are Romney and the Ruling Class. That is why they are working with Obama and the MarxoFascist regime to ensure no one ever has to hear from the Conservative movement as a political threat ever again. That's what voting for Romney ensures. That's what voting for Obama ensures.
We've been led right into the trap, and you are still eager to eat the bait.
we need to win
Not gonna happen. Conservatism already lost this election for the top spot.
Are you willing to do what it takes
I'm sure you and most of the people in this country are not willing to do what it takes. If we were, that would have happened long ago and we would not have done what you and other Romneybots/ABO are demanding we do now: practice insanity, just like we did back in 2008.
Having blind faith in a corrupted process to create an illusion of choice is not doing what it takes.
That's just putting up with what the masters serve us in the proletariat.
stop argueing and close ranks. It's like this people...we stand shoulder to shoulder or we fail
Stand and vote FOR the liberal Socialist being handed the party standard?? You mean like "conservatives" in Great Britain did? To the point that the Conservative party is now where the Leftist Labor Party was just 2 decades ago?
Some of us understand we have to give account for our actions, and some of us understand that since God never compromises with evil - we're not supposed to either. We're supposed to emulate the Almighty. I've repented of compromising with evil for political expedience because some of us do not believe in an expedience ala: 'convert to Islam and repent later'.
Get it? DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
I'm pretty sure you don't.
I’m a business owner like yourself. We are forced to live in the real world, and deal with real problems and solutions. Others seem to live in fantasyland. When one doesn’t have real responsibilities to fulfill dealing in the absurd becomes a viable option.
To halfwits anything they don’t like is “Communism”. Hide the children, Mabel!
Sarcasm, like math, is lost on you.
Don’t give me your canned patriotic speech! I’ve been here almost as long as you and have respected you as one of the finest Americans alive!
I no what FR is supposed to stand for, but you are neglecting one major factor. Not one post that I’ve ever read has tried to change your mind about Romney! On the other hand, you have tried to use your influence to force others to change theirs under threat of and including banishment from the one forum we thought we all could trust!
YOU have violated the trust of many true patriots for one person. You’ve placed thousands in a catch-22 situation!
It’s sad to see this and I’ve felt the lash on occasion, mostly from your toadies.
Where does FR go from here Jim? More down hill?
I sure hope not.
Jim, you need to get way more sleep or just stop using.
FR will continue the way we are. Pro-Life, pro-Liberty!! If you can’t handle that, bail!!
100% right. Not sure why the moderators refuse to take action on any of the trolls here.
Because I think many of the powers that be here do not like Romney.
Posts like this are ruining this site.
Please JR please take control, I love this site.
Okay brainiac, WHO is going to stop this slide? Us by re-electing Obama?
GO READ YOUR EIGHTH GRADE CIVICS BOOK!
I’m not gonna bail...if you can’t handle that, Tough!
You should wake up!
They actually believe that electing Obama for another four years would actually further a "pro-life", "pro-liberty" agenda. Especially after seeing Obama ruling by decree and bypassing congress to the extreme, I must say I haven't quite figured that one out myself either.
FR is, always has been, and always will be pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty, pro-limited government. Romney is none of the above. If you can’t handle a pro-life conservative forum, then bail out. We’re not changing to suit you, to suit the statist GOP, or to suit the abortionist/statist Myth Romney!!
I’m not complaining, pal, you are. I’m just stating the facts.
If you don’t post stupid junk, it doesn’t get on my computer especially if you don’t post stupid VANITIES.
Since there only two viable candidates and you don’t like one...your vote must go to the other that is a confirmed, proven, died in the wool Marxist...It’s like the teapot calling the kettle “Ol’ Blacka$$”
Hypocrite!
Which part? The part that says Romney's Commiecare is good while Obama's Commiecare is bad? Wait, that one is from the RINO playbook.
I think JR already stated the truth that most do not want to accept: November is lost as far as Conservatism goes for the top spot.
Our "choice" is for a Socialist who has contempt for Conservatives or a MarxoFascist who has contempt for America itself. No matter who actually "wins" in November, the Ruling Class solidifies their hold on power over our lives and this nation lunges off the cliff to the Left.
If Ob gets another four years, I fear we’re done.
So you also, now believe the Executive is a monarch and trading "our king" for "their king" saves us??
This is another illustration of why November doesn't matter.
The stuff they are DOING while trampling on the DoI and Constitution (not just talking about doing it) like the UN Small Arms Treaty will prevent us forevermore from undoing the damage if they get another four years to implement their plans.
What if the stuff THEY'VE ALREADY DONE prevents us from forever undoing the course and damage done to us? What if the plans you so fear have already been put into place, like c4 on the support columns - just waiting for a button to be pushed?
Getting rid of Obama doesn't even SLOW what has been done to us already.
One last thing to consider - like when one gets married, one is not just marrying the bride - one is marrying her entire extended family. When Ob was elected, he came with a crew of unappointed commies, perverts and criminals who have wielded their power with reckless abandon. With a new POTUS comes an ENTIRE CAST CHANGE which would also help slow the train wreck down.
You have a very short and limited memory. That only happens when Leftists like Clinton and MarxoFascists like Obama take over the halls of power. When Republicans assume office, most of the appointments (or czars nowadays) remained.
The GOPe - of whom Romney is poster boy, is not FOR ONE MOMENT going to upset the boat of all the appointments Obama made to unaccountable offices that support and share the same agenda the Ruling Class has with Obama and the MarxoFascists.
Have you heard him pledge or even HINT at abolishing everything Obama has instituted aside from the popular subject of ObamaCare (that we know he is not going to touch)?
You are not even going to hear harsh language from Romney about the affronts Obama has committed.
It's all a shell game now.
Designed to keep us placated and numb.
I’m not your pal, anymore!
And I’m sure as heck not your FRiend anymore either.
You have hurt the cause you worked so hard to help.
I’ve already wasted too much time with you.
I’m done reading your foolish hogwash.
No, you keep checking to see what I have to say. BTW, your tag line is funny. It says “No more RINOS!” even though you are arguing that we support RINO Romney.
I noticed that too.
Pretty funny coming from a guy with a tag-line that says (No More RINOs).
BTW, this is what happens to a people cowed into fear and who are willing to surrender everything for the mere promise or hope of bread.
Romney is not my choice, and I won’t vote for him, but he is not a communist.
He is a social corporatist.
He is also radically liberal in his social issue positions.
He should never be the nominee of a conservative party and should never be a conservative’s choice.
The GOP-E has to be giddy with glee. Their RINO candidate is fracturing the conservative movement, all the while running against such a weak opponent that Romney still might be able to win without a unified base. This presidential election will further entrench the GOP-E by weakening the movement of those who fight for real limited government reform.
I think both sides of this debate need to realize the other side has legitimate concerns and the decision whether or not to vote for Romney is not the no-brainer too many on both sides make it out to be. I certainly can see and grasp both sides. I'd hope more could reach that point and debate this more rationally.
Excellent post #233
And what if the GOP-e and the weak “opponent” were actually on the same side in all of this?
Their first target of destruction being what you are witnessing?
Would you begin to understand a little bit more about where we have actually arrived?
Perhaps you've forgotten what they did under the Democrats?
Thanks for starting this thread.
Your “Vote for Romney is a vote for Communism” bit is ridiculous, but the replies have made for a good thread.
Funny how that works both ways huh finny .
He is a social corporatist.
He is also radically liberal in his social issue positions.
He should never be the nominee of a conservative party and should never be a conservative’s choice.
Excellent description. Being the mean person that I am, I’d add - smarmy, untrustworthy, dishonest, craves power and will say anything to get it, panders to anyone he thinks will benefit him, and very possibly thinks he’s fulfilling some weirdo Mormon prophecy.
Do you think the GOP (makes my bile rise just to think of them) wants to throw the election as they did in 2008?
Dont get pissed Randy . The simple fact is socialist lite is a better workout than any Marxist . Problem is when people hide in the “ Principles “ they have the blinders are deep .
Like an elected official has any principles . Ok maybe 20 in the House and the Senate . There is only 1 best option here but the walk on water types will directly or indirectly vote for the Marxist . And gloat about it too .
True. But, until we get to limit the executive orders, we cannot hope to influence our destiny. He is picking and choosing the laws he will let stand. (Tyranny)
Display some demonstrable skill at either, muffin, and maybe I'll actually start taking such criticisms seriously.
Until such time, however: pick up your sippy cup and toddle off to bed now, that's a good girl.
So who was talking about you, you dizzy little pixie?
If the phrase "sister-wife" refers, specifically and meaningfully to you... that's scarcely my fault, now, is it?
No pwnage quite like self-pwnage, is there, sweetums? ROTFLMAO!!!
Saying that a vote for Romney is a vote for government tyranny is a statement of fact based on Romney's record, though voting for tyranny understandably won't be most voters' intent -- most will intend to vote "against" Obama.
Saying that not to vote for Romney "is the same as voting for Obama," on the other hand, is a flat-out material falsehood meant to demonize those who refuse to vote for Romney. There's only one way to vote for Obama, and that's to mark his name on the ballot.
Just as there's only one way to vote for government tyranny -- and that is to mark a statist's name on the ballot. Both Obama and Romney are demonstrated statists, so a vote for either one is a vote for government tyranny.
"I grieve deeply as I contemplate the fact that millions of Americans are letting themselves be caught in this diabolical snare. As I tried to point out in 2008, the lesser of evils is still evil. No matter how such an election turns out, people content to choose between Satan and Beelzebub have made clear their willingness to let things go to hell. Moreover, the nature of their choice is so clear to them that they practically boast of the passionate hatred that impels them to it. With this practical boast they become the willing, proud accomplices of the very evil they profess to hate."
Really does say it all, right there.
Too bad that you and each and every Romney pom pom girl here could not stick to conservative principles. The Romney pom pom girls will NEVER be satisfied until the GOP is as useless and $$$$ obsessed as the Brit Tories.
You and others like you (out of mere sycophancy for Romney) would throw Jim Rob under the bus along with each and every actual conservative (i.e., those who REFUSE to support either major party leftist candidate) who knows a leftist POS when he/she sees one. The loyalty is FIRST to the ideas and principles that you are SOOOOO eager to betray and abandon. Then loyalty to those who, like Jim Rob, have remained loyal to the cause and, unlike you and the other Romney pom pom girls, have earned that loyalty.
THAT is a positive statement unlike: Yay, rah, rah, Romney. If you leave or if you embrace the zot, I for one won't miss you one bit. I'll stop by DU or Huffpo every once in a while and see how you are doing. Conservatism is a LOT more textured and complex tapestry than mere $$$$.
Yes, but House Oversight Committees in Rep. hands help a lot. Fast and Furious for example. The GOP House has also passed numerous bills to repeal Obamacare.
But the House is only one part of one part of the branches of government. We need a Senate to also pass legislation and a pres that won’t veto.
But taking the House was a big step.
...or TBL. Not that there's any appreciable difference, mind. ;)
Yes it says a lot. Says the Right Stuff.
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