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If the Republican Convention Could be Opened, Who Would You Replace Romney With?
Freeper Editorial ^ | 17 Jul 12 | Xzins

Posted on 07/17/2012 5:11:59 AM PDT by xzins

Without going to great lengths to establish that there is continuing dissatisfaction with Mitt Romney as the Republican nominee for the presidency, let us play the game of "What If". What if the convention were to somehow become open? Who would you want to be the Republican nominee?

If we were to point out that Romney did not win the support of two-thirds of the primary voters, the reply would be that the process is engineered that way. When there are more than two candidates, one shouldn't be surprised to see a candidate polling much more than a third. That is reasonable. However, it doesn't mitigate the fact that most were not Romney supporters.

We will balance this out in the game of "What If" by placing any of the candidates who ran against Mitt marginally off limits. Participants in the game should not pick Pawlenty, Bachman, Johnson, Huntsman, Paul, Gingrich, Cain, Perry, or Santorum. They have all already lost. We will leave the option open, though, because many believe Romney was aided by the GOP-E, by a complicit media in the tank for him, and by an enormous financial advantage. So, if you absolutely must write-in Bachman's name, then go ahead and do it. (We couldn't really stop you, anyway.)

My criteria for a candidate would be that they be a real conservative. This is the complaint most heard about Romney, that he is a lifelong liberal who governed as a liberal. There is good reason for seeing Romney in this light since just weeks ago he came out in favor of gay couples. Moreover, he announced that at the state level those gay couples should be allowed to adopt children. This is not ancient history. This is recent. Folks might say that Romney has changed here or there, that he's converted to this or that, but the gay couple and gay adoption thing is brand new.

It underscore for those of us who don't support the man that he truly is a radical liberal, and that it's liberalism that's in his bloodstream and not anything that is severely conservative.

So, who would you support if the convention were to open up? If you were a delegate and if Romney announced he was stepping down, to which leader would you turn?

For me, it would have to first be a pro-life candidate. Life is a right and not an issue. Life shouldn't be taken except by due process of law, and that only after one has committed a violation that warrants the death penalty. A pre-born child could never commit such a crime, so no due process could ever make it right to take the life of a pre-born child.

Other minimal requirements would be: pro-God, anti-homosexualism, pro-gun, pro-small government, and pro-American exceptionalism. I could add other qualifications to this list, but we'll just shorten it for the sake of this article.

Who?

Let's just offer a few names that have been brought up as possible Vice Presidential nominees (alphabetically): Tom Corbett, Mitch Daniels, Jim DeMint, Susana Martinez, Sarah Palin, Rand Paul, Rob Portman, Condi Rice, Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, Rick Snyder, and Alan West. Some of these might or might not fit the requirements I've listed above, but they are a starting list. I'm sure there are others who should be considered. Feel free to add other names.

So, vote now. If the Republican Convention were to suddenly open up, if we suddenly found ourselves rid of Mitt, for whom would you vote to be the nominee of the Republican Party?


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To: xzins

I personally would go with a Santorum / Gingrich ticket.


51 posted on 07/17/2012 5:41:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: dirtboy

our battle is to push as many conservatives over the line in down-ticket races?


Hear hear! (or is it here here!?)

I’ll even vote for the Rombot. (and shower for at least 1 hour to get the funk off). But I am in the peoples republic of Minnesota. So it likely would not matter.

However.. If it pushes Romney over the top in the popular vote it would be fun to watch heads explode in CA. I think they award their electors via the popular vote now.


52 posted on 07/17/2012 5:42:50 AM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: xzins

You are kidding right?

I’m not thrilled with Romney in the least, but seriously, replace the candidate,66 days or so before the actual election???? You do realize that’s political suicide don’t you?

Sure it makes nice “What If” daydreaming, but you want to lose an election, that’s probably the most guaranteed way to do it!

In fact, no one has come out of a brokered convention in the modern era and won the election. 2 Months is just not enough time to build up what you need to win.

Yes, there are tons of others I would have loved to have seen be the nominee, but the fact is many didn’t run.. PALIN.. come on guys, she didn’t even bother running or trying to and now you daydream of her being the candidate? Be serious.. I like the woman, but if she wasn’t willing to fight for it, she has no business in the fight.

Nice diversion, but we have who we have, wasting energy daydreaming about others doesn’t help get Obama out of the White House, and that’s what matters most at this point.


53 posted on 07/17/2012 5:42:50 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: ClearCase_guy

Demint


54 posted on 07/17/2012 5:44:04 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Westbrook

I say we put West in as the head of the RNC..


55 posted on 07/17/2012 5:44:04 AM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: xzins

West


56 posted on 07/17/2012 5:44:16 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: xzins

Given, this is not very likely anyway, I would let Romney remain (despite acknowledging he is the GOP equivalent to Obama) — but name Gingrich as VP, and appoint LTC Allen West, Sarah Palin, John Bolton, Herman Cain and Rick Perry to appropriate cabinet positions and promise to clean house immediately - specifically announcing all political ties are to be broken with Carl Rove, Grover Norquist and every entity/individual linked to those two slimey Islamophiles.


57 posted on 07/17/2012 5:44:20 AM PDT by wtd
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To: wtd

Might as well put Paul in the cabinet to. He’ll clean out the fed quite nicely for you.


58 posted on 07/17/2012 5:46:04 AM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: Free Vulcan; P-Marlowe; cripplecreek; greyfoxx39; kabar; mkjessup; SoConPubbie; Yashcheritsiy; ...
It’s this simple: having to keep Romney’s liberal tendencies in check

Well, if the above line is what you really believe, then you should absolutely love this thread.

This thread reminds Mitt that he's rejected by conservatives, that his support is shallow or not at all, and that he'd better toe the line.

What is here for you to dislike?

I'd email a copy of it to his HQ just hold his feet to the fire.

Or are we talking about the kind of "hold mitt accountable" where no one ever says anything, where they meekly scrape and bow, and where they refuse to rock the boat no matter what kind of assinine comment or decision he makes?

I'm getting tired of the "we're going to keep him accountable" crowd that does nothing but spin, spin, spin when he makes a mistake.

That "hold him accountable" crowd let his gay couple/gay adoption annoucement glide by without starting a raging storm against him. Is that what is meant by "hold accountable?"

59 posted on 07/17/2012 5:47:57 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: muawiyah
Don't be silly. All that's happening is we are surfacing the secret RINOs, and right here on FR of all places.

Uh, no, we are not.

Let's see the choice here, between the major candidates, pro and con.

Obama - he is tanking the economy with his policies. He is abusing executive power. He and his lackeys flaunt the law.

I doubt there are more than a handful of FR posters remaining who wanted Romney all along. The strong majority of persons are not pro-Romney but are instead ABO. A reasoned case can be made that a Romney win would lead to a significant improvement in the economy and may curtail the abuses of power that we see with Obama, and may lead to better judicial appointments.

Romney - you can't trust a word he says. If Obama wins, the GOP in Congress would fight his socialism. If Romney wins, the GOP-E would join with Dems to push socialism-lite. A Romney win would entrench the GOP-E and make it almost impossible in the near-to-mid term to implement the kind of changes needed to repair entitlements and other perils to our financial stability. In other words, it would be, IMO, a pyrhhic victory.

IMO those who support Romney see it is imperative to get Obama out of office to curtail the damage Obama can do with four more years in the hopes that Romney in the long run would do less damage. I think the first half is a valid statement. The second half is dubious.

But all that aside, I get back to my core point - why on Earth would the GOP-E go along with replacing Romney in Tampa when his candidacy has done more damage to conservative unity than they could have dreamt of a year ago? They have to be absolutely giddy with glee.

And the solution is not to cave and vote Romney. The solution, IMO, is to realize that we have far more in common with the people on FR we are attacking than the real foes we face - the socialists in both parties. So far, they are winning and we are losing.

We lost the war in the GOP primary. No point in bayoneting the injured who still remain. We need to get back on our feet and work for conservatives down-ticket and try to repair the damage to get ready for 2012 and 2014. And we need to learn from this disaster - we cannot fight among ourselves and expect to be effective fighting those who truly wish our demise.

60 posted on 07/17/2012 5:49:11 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: HamiltonJay

Nope. Not kidding at all.


61 posted on 07/17/2012 5:50:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Westbrook

100 percent agree.
West could shake things up.


62 posted on 07/17/2012 5:50:17 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: wolfman23601
Bobby Jindal is not a natural born citizen, and he is therefore not eligible to serve in the Office of the President or the Office of the Vice President. Anyone attempting to do so is engaged in the subversion of the U.S. Constitution and its mandate to guarantee a Republican form of government with a natural born citizen in command of the American army as stated by John Jay, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States.
63 posted on 07/17/2012 5:51:12 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: xzins

Scott Walker. He’s seen Democrats at their ugliest and knows exactly what to expect from that crowd...and he wins.


64 posted on 07/17/2012 5:52:20 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: xzins
That "hold him accountable" crowd let his gay couple/gay adoption annoucement glide by without starting a raging storm against him. Is that what is meant by "hold accountable?"

They aren't holding him accountable now and aren't going to do so in the future. Saying otherwise is lying.
65 posted on 07/17/2012 5:52:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: xzins

West is impressive, yet he did back down on the natural born citizen issue that is fundamental to the Constitution and its role in safeguarding the rule of law for genuine U.S. Citizens.


66 posted on 07/17/2012 5:53:41 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: xzins
Palin. Cain. Bachmann. West. Trey Gowdy. Tom Emmer. Rand Paul. Penn Gillette. Me...

You know... People with an ACTUAL record of support for Constitutional governance and upholding real freedom.

67 posted on 07/17/2012 5:55:24 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: umgud

Herman Cain was a member of the Federal Reserve, an appointment beholding to the New World Order bankers intent upon destroying U.S. sovereignty and with it the self-determination of individual U.S. Citizens and their families.


68 posted on 07/17/2012 5:57:11 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: xzins

West, Jindal, Palin, Walker


69 posted on 07/17/2012 5:58:21 AM PDT by ladyrustic (Get in the face of a liberal in honor of Breitbart.)
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To: Free Vulcan

Romney doesn’t have liberal tendencies, he is a liberal. He governed that way his whole political life.
Romney does not tend towards liberalism, he embraces it.
Do you honestly beleive with the Republican leadership we in the house and none in the senate Romney’s feet would be held to the fire?
Romney despises conservatives, do you really think he will (even if both houses were conservative) work with them, or will he do what he always has done and work with liberal democrats.
I think people who beleive Romney would somehow be different than he has been before, just because some conservatives caved from fear or hysteria are well.......wrong.


70 posted on 07/17/2012 6:00:13 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Free Vulcan
The stark differences between Romney and Obama are readily reduced to two things ~ 10 years difference in age, and one of them has more gray hair.

Otherwise, they're both pretty much the same thing even down to the way they pick economic winners

71 posted on 07/17/2012 6:04:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek

Ya know, cripplecreek, I don’t want to agree with you, but I’m afraid you are 100% correct. They say they’ll hold him accountable, keep him in line, but they don’t.

Instead they spin for him. They pretend that he does no wrong. They treat those of us who speak aloud some of his weaknesses as if we’d just been convicted of patricide.

It truly make you wonder what the definition of “hold him accountable” is?


72 posted on 07/17/2012 6:05:30 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
In an open convention, my candidate would be someone who said these words:

"If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."
~ Allen West
73 posted on 07/17/2012 6:10:31 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: xzins

74 posted on 07/17/2012 6:13:04 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: xzins

Now that he has a new ticker.....Dick Cheney.


75 posted on 07/17/2012 6:13:04 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: xzins; Yashcheritsiy

We need to get rid of Priebus as well and that’s simply not likely with Walker around.


76 posted on 07/17/2012 6:13:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: xzins

WEST


77 posted on 07/17/2012 6:13:49 AM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: xzins

Sarah
Newt


78 posted on 07/17/2012 6:15:49 AM PDT by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: mkjessup

That is why I respect Alan West. I would have loved being his battalion chaplain.

He understood the fine line between ethics and results. He walked on the line but he didn’t cross it.

The army crucified him for it, but now he tells them when to dance.

I would absolutely love for him to be the Cdr in Chief some day. It’s been a while since we’ve had a real soldier with real command experience at the head of the nation.


79 posted on 07/17/2012 6:16:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Sarah Palin


80 posted on 07/17/2012 6:16:29 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great; until it happens to YOU.)
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To: xzins

This is a useles exercise. No Matter who is touted as a conservative, 10,000 people will show up to say that the person is not conservative. That would include viscious attacks against Palin, Walker, West and DeMint. I know that because I’ve seen the attacks against them right here on FR.


81 posted on 07/17/2012 6:17:32 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: Girlene

tick tock, tick tock

LOL!


82 posted on 07/17/2012 6:17:45 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: sergeantdave
I know that because I’ve seen the attacks against them right here on FR.

Good point, Dave; It was a regular occurence here during the primaries.

83 posted on 07/17/2012 6:19:58 AM PDT by TonyInOhio ("If we want to get rid of Obamacare, we're going to have to replace President Obama.")
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To: dirtboy

We need to PO the GOP-e and have them just walk out ~ turn their backs on us


84 posted on 07/17/2012 6:20:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: sergeantdave
I know that because I’ve seen the attacks

Not when in comparison with Mitt Romney.

Ask the question: "Who would you rather have, Scott Walker or Mitt Romney?"

I'll bet they don't reel off Walker's negatives. I bet they're more glad to get out from under the Romney Albatross.

85 posted on 07/17/2012 6:20:34 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

What do you mean “if”...it certainly can but we have too many Romney lovers around. On Free Republic is it tragic to see all the Romney fans....Disgusting. We could replace Romney in a heartbeat if the conservatives would have a spine.


86 posted on 07/17/2012 6:24:52 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: xzins
I'm not really fond of "what if" games. And I don't particularily enjoy these in your face threads where the same folks argue the same tired arguments concerning who one is going to vote for.

If Mr. Goode is on the ballot in Texas I will vote "for" him! If not I will vote down ticket.

At any rate Padre please take me off your ping list. I appreciate you and your service.

Greg Adams
Brownsville, TX

87 posted on 07/17/2012 6:28:03 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America, where are you now?" - Little "r" republican!)
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To: Mom MD

I like both Mom.

Newt gives me a headache sometimes, though. Should I take 2 aspirin?


88 posted on 07/17/2012 6:28:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Some folks think it’s enough that he put the toilet lid down


89 posted on 07/17/2012 6:29:10 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: xzins

Good points FRiend, as for having a CinC with combat experience, we COULD have had Duncan Hunter in 2008, but he was run out of the primaries by the GOP-e and Fox News especially after he coined the phrase ‘The Kennedy wing of the Republican Party’, they hated him for that, and after Faux News sought to minimize him, I unsubscribed, told Faux that Rupert Murdoch could kiss my effin ass, and they are dead to me.

Duncan Hunter had 26 years on the House Armed Service Committee, many years as Chairman, U.S. Army Ranger with combat experience in Vietnam, one of the original Reagan Republicans who went to Washington in the Reagan landslide of 1980. I refer to him as the ‘greatest President since Reagan that America was too g*dammned stupid to elect’.

When General Chuck Yeager not only endorses but chooses to serve as campaign chairman for a patriot like Hunter, that speaks volumes.


90 posted on 07/17/2012 6:29:53 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: cableguymn
Might as well put Paul in the cabinet to. He’ll clean out the fed quite nicely for you.

With that single mission, he would. But he must be expressly forbidden to touch anything else.

91 posted on 07/17/2012 6:31:08 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: wtd

Santorum needs to be part of the administration at the very least.


92 posted on 07/17/2012 6:31:57 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Perdogg

If I had to come up with an off the wall guy, it would be former Governor of Michigan John Engler.


93 posted on 07/17/2012 6:33:29 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: mkjessup

Duncan Hunter was my choice in 2008, and we’ve not had any close to his quality since, and that includes Sarah Palin.

The Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party is classic, and it is Mitt Romney.


94 posted on 07/17/2012 6:34:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: wtd
I would pick the person who has governed a state that has remained prosperous through these horrible times and that would be Rick Perry. VP Gingrich would make me so happy as it would make the heads of the media explode and give Gingrich a platform to take them to the woodshed on a regular basis. Sarah Palin as head of DOE and EPA (Perry would combine them!) thereby frightening the soup out of libs AND the oil companies. Bolton would be Sec. of State and Herman Cain head of DHS or whatever that program is called. I hate to wake from this dream!
95 posted on 07/17/2012 6:34:25 AM PDT by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: xzins

Walker states this of himself: “I am 100% pro-life”.


96 posted on 07/17/2012 6:38:11 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: dirtboy

What people are refusing to see is the destruction of the conservative movement as a voice within the republican party.

They hate fubo sooooo much that they are willing to compromise their personal integrity and destroy an entire movement to get him out. Very short sighted.

mcromney needs to be defeated in a very big way. Period. That is the only way our movement survives.

conservative house and senate with some damn backbone can keep this guy in check for 4 years ( really only 1, because just like nixon, this guy will never finish a second term aka fast and furious )....

Time to shut down the emotions and deal with pure logic and tactics. If mcromney wins we lose....


97 posted on 07/17/2012 6:39:08 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: muawiyah
We need to PO the GOP-e and have them just walk out ~ turn their backs on us

Well, they largely did that in 2010 when Tea Party candidates defeated their fave RINOs.

But we were too busy fighting among ourselves in the 2012 GOP presidential primary to coalesce around one horse, which allowed Romney a path to the win.

And what have we learned from that? Apparently, bupkis. We're still fighting each other just as hard and just as counterproductively.

98 posted on 07/17/2012 6:39:47 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: txrangerette

Thanks TxR,

I was hoping that he was.


99 posted on 07/17/2012 6:44:07 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: sergeantdave
Time and time again the right has formed a circular firing squad and then wonders why there is so much collateral damage when that happens.

And now we are forming two lines - facing each other. The GOP-E is thrilled.

Folks, an ABO FReeper is not the enemy. Nor is someone who has serious enough concerns about Romney to not vote for him.

100 posted on 07/17/2012 6:44:07 AM PDT by dirtboy
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