Skip to comments.If the Republican Convention Could be Opened, Who Would You Replace Romney With?
Posted on 07/17/2012 5:11:59 AM PDT by xzins
Without going to great lengths to establish that there is continuing dissatisfaction with Mitt Romney as the Republican nominee for the presidency, let us play the game of "What If". What if the convention were to somehow become open? Who would you want to be the Republican nominee?
If we were to point out that Romney did not win the support of two-thirds of the primary voters, the reply would be that the process is engineered that way. When there are more than two candidates, one shouldn't be surprised to see a candidate polling much more than a third. That is reasonable. However, it doesn't mitigate the fact that most were not Romney supporters.
We will balance this out in the game of "What If" by placing any of the candidates who ran against Mitt marginally off limits. Participants in the game should not pick Pawlenty, Bachman, Johnson, Huntsman, Paul, Gingrich, Cain, Perry, or Santorum. They have all already lost. We will leave the option open, though, because many believe Romney was aided by the GOP-E, by a complicit media in the tank for him, and by an enormous financial advantage. So, if you absolutely must write-in Bachman's name, then go ahead and do it. (We couldn't really stop you, anyway.)
My criteria for a candidate would be that they be a real conservative. This is the complaint most heard about Romney, that he is a lifelong liberal who governed as a liberal. There is good reason for seeing Romney in this light since just weeks ago he came out in favor of gay couples. Moreover, he announced that at the state level those gay couples should be allowed to adopt children. This is not ancient history. This is recent. Folks might say that Romney has changed here or there, that he's converted to this or that, but the gay couple and gay adoption thing is brand new.
It underscore for those of us who don't support the man that he truly is a radical liberal, and that it's liberalism that's in his bloodstream and not anything that is severely conservative.
So, who would you support if the convention were to open up? If you were a delegate and if Romney announced he was stepping down, to which leader would you turn?
For me, it would have to first be a pro-life candidate. Life is a right and not an issue. Life shouldn't be taken except by due process of law, and that only after one has committed a violation that warrants the death penalty. A pre-born child could never commit such a crime, so no due process could ever make it right to take the life of a pre-born child.
Other minimal requirements would be: pro-God, anti-homosexualism, pro-gun, pro-small government, and pro-American exceptionalism. I could add other qualifications to this list, but we'll just shorten it for the sake of this article.
Let's just offer a few names that have been brought up as possible Vice Presidential nominees (alphabetically): Tom Corbett, Mitch Daniels, Jim DeMint, Susana Martinez, Sarah Palin, Rand Paul, Rob Portman, Condi Rice, Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, Rick Snyder, and Alan West. Some of these might or might not fit the requirements I've listed above, but they are a starting list. I'm sure there are others who should be considered. Feel free to add other names.
So, vote now. If the Republican Convention were to suddenly open up, if we suddenly found ourselves rid of Mitt, for whom would you vote to be the nominee of the Republican Party?
I personally would go with a Santorum / Gingrich ticket.
our battle is to push as many conservatives over the line in down-ticket races?
Hear hear! (or is it here here!?)
I’ll even vote for the Rombot. (and shower for at least 1 hour to get the funk off). But I am in the peoples republic of Minnesota. So it likely would not matter.
However.. If it pushes Romney over the top in the popular vote it would be fun to watch heads explode in CA. I think they award their electors via the popular vote now.
You are kidding right?
I’m not thrilled with Romney in the least, but seriously, replace the candidate,66 days or so before the actual election???? You do realize that’s political suicide don’t you?
Sure it makes nice “What If” daydreaming, but you want to lose an election, that’s probably the most guaranteed way to do it!
In fact, no one has come out of a brokered convention in the modern era and won the election. 2 Months is just not enough time to build up what you need to win.
Yes, there are tons of others I would have loved to have seen be the nominee, but the fact is many didn’t run.. PALIN.. come on guys, she didn’t even bother running or trying to and now you daydream of her being the candidate? Be serious.. I like the woman, but if she wasn’t willing to fight for it, she has no business in the fight.
Nice diversion, but we have who we have, wasting energy daydreaming about others doesn’t help get Obama out of the White House, and that’s what matters most at this point.
I say we put West in as the head of the RNC..
Given, this is not very likely anyway, I would let Romney remain (despite acknowledging he is the GOP equivalent to Obama) — but name Gingrich as VP, and appoint LTC Allen West, Sarah Palin, John Bolton, Herman Cain and Rick Perry to appropriate cabinet positions and promise to clean house immediately - specifically announcing all political ties are to be broken with Carl Rove, Grover Norquist and every entity/individual linked to those two slimey Islamophiles.
Might as well put Paul in the cabinet to. He’ll clean out the fed quite nicely for you.
Well, if the above line is what you really believe, then you should absolutely love this thread.
This thread reminds Mitt that he's rejected by conservatives, that his support is shallow or not at all, and that he'd better toe the line.
What is here for you to dislike?
I'd email a copy of it to his HQ just hold his feet to the fire.
Or are we talking about the kind of "hold mitt accountable" where no one ever says anything, where they meekly scrape and bow, and where they refuse to rock the boat no matter what kind of assinine comment or decision he makes?
I'm getting tired of the "we're going to keep him accountable" crowd that does nothing but spin, spin, spin when he makes a mistake.
That "hold him accountable" crowd let his gay couple/gay adoption annoucement glide by without starting a raging storm against him. Is that what is meant by "hold accountable?"
Uh, no, we are not.
Let's see the choice here, between the major candidates, pro and con.
Obama - he is tanking the economy with his policies. He is abusing executive power. He and his lackeys flaunt the law.
I doubt there are more than a handful of FR posters remaining who wanted Romney all along. The strong majority of persons are not pro-Romney but are instead ABO. A reasoned case can be made that a Romney win would lead to a significant improvement in the economy and may curtail the abuses of power that we see with Obama, and may lead to better judicial appointments.
Romney - you can't trust a word he says. If Obama wins, the GOP in Congress would fight his socialism. If Romney wins, the GOP-E would join with Dems to push socialism-lite. A Romney win would entrench the GOP-E and make it almost impossible in the near-to-mid term to implement the kind of changes needed to repair entitlements and other perils to our financial stability. In other words, it would be, IMO, a pyrhhic victory.
IMO those who support Romney see it is imperative to get Obama out of office to curtail the damage Obama can do with four more years in the hopes that Romney in the long run would do less damage. I think the first half is a valid statement. The second half is dubious.
But all that aside, I get back to my core point - why on Earth would the GOP-E go along with replacing Romney in Tampa when his candidacy has done more damage to conservative unity than they could have dreamt of a year ago? They have to be absolutely giddy with glee.
And the solution is not to cave and vote Romney. The solution, IMO, is to realize that we have far more in common with the people on FR we are attacking than the real foes we face - the socialists in both parties. So far, they are winning and we are losing.
We lost the war in the GOP primary. No point in bayoneting the injured who still remain. We need to get back on our feet and work for conservatives down-ticket and try to repair the damage to get ready for 2012 and 2014. And we need to learn from this disaster - we cannot fight among ourselves and expect to be effective fighting those who truly wish our demise.
Nope. Not kidding at all.
100 percent agree.
West could shake things up.
Scott Walker. He’s seen Democrats at their ugliest and knows exactly what to expect from that crowd...and he wins.
West is impressive, yet he did back down on the natural born citizen issue that is fundamental to the Constitution and its role in safeguarding the rule of law for genuine U.S. Citizens.
You know... People with an ACTUAL record of support for Constitutional governance and upholding real freedom.
Herman Cain was a member of the Federal Reserve, an appointment beholding to the New World Order bankers intent upon destroying U.S. sovereignty and with it the self-determination of individual U.S. Citizens and their families.
West, Jindal, Palin, Walker
Romney doesn’t have liberal tendencies, he is a liberal. He governed that way his whole political life.
Romney does not tend towards liberalism, he embraces it.
Do you honestly beleive with the Republican leadership we in the house and none in the senate Romney’s feet would be held to the fire?
Romney despises conservatives, do you really think he will (even if both houses were conservative) work with them, or will he do what he always has done and work with liberal democrats.
I think people who beleive Romney would somehow be different than he has been before, just because some conservatives caved from fear or hysteria are well.......wrong.
Otherwise, they're both pretty much the same thing even down to the way they pick economic winners
Ya know, cripplecreek, I don’t want to agree with you, but I’m afraid you are 100% correct. They say they’ll hold him accountable, keep him in line, but they don’t.
Instead they spin for him. They pretend that he does no wrong. They treat those of us who speak aloud some of his weaknesses as if we’d just been convicted of patricide.
It truly make you wonder what the definition of “hold him accountable” is?
Now that he has a new ticker.....Dick Cheney.
We need to get rid of Priebus as well and that’s simply not likely with Walker around.
That is why I respect Alan West. I would have loved being his battalion chaplain.
He understood the fine line between ethics and results. He walked on the line but he didn’t cross it.
The army crucified him for it, but now he tells them when to dance.
I would absolutely love for him to be the Cdr in Chief some day. It’s been a while since we’ve had a real soldier with real command experience at the head of the nation.
This is a useles exercise. No Matter who is touted as a conservative, 10,000 people will show up to say that the person is not conservative. That would include viscious attacks against Palin, Walker, West and DeMint. I know that because I’ve seen the attacks against them right here on FR.
tick tock, tick tock
Good point, Dave; It was a regular occurence here during the primaries.
We need to PO the GOP-e and have them just walk out ~ turn their backs on us
Not when in comparison with Mitt Romney.
Ask the question: "Who would you rather have, Scott Walker or Mitt Romney?"
I'll bet they don't reel off Walker's negatives. I bet they're more glad to get out from under the Romney Albatross.
What do you mean “if”...it certainly can but we have too many Romney lovers around. On Free Republic is it tragic to see all the Romney fans....Disgusting. We could replace Romney in a heartbeat if the conservatives would have a spine.
If Mr. Goode is on the ballot in Texas I will vote "for" him! If not I will vote down ticket.
At any rate Padre please take me off your ping list. I appreciate you and your service.
I like both Mom.
Newt gives me a headache sometimes, though. Should I take 2 aspirin?
Some folks think it’s enough that he put the toilet lid down
Good points FRiend, as for having a CinC with combat experience, we COULD have had Duncan Hunter in 2008, but he was run out of the primaries by the GOP-e and Fox News especially after he coined the phrase ‘The Kennedy wing of the Republican Party’, they hated him for that, and after Faux News sought to minimize him, I unsubscribed, told Faux that Rupert Murdoch could kiss my effin ass, and they are dead to me.
Duncan Hunter had 26 years on the House Armed Service Committee, many years as Chairman, U.S. Army Ranger with combat experience in Vietnam, one of the original Reagan Republicans who went to Washington in the Reagan landslide of 1980. I refer to him as the ‘greatest President since Reagan that America was too g*dammned stupid to elect’.
When General Chuck Yeager not only endorses but chooses to serve as campaign chairman for a patriot like Hunter, that speaks volumes.
With that single mission, he would. But he must be expressly forbidden to touch anything else.
Santorum needs to be part of the administration at the very least.
If I had to come up with an off the wall guy, it would be former Governor of Michigan John Engler.
Duncan Hunter was my choice in 2008, and we’ve not had any close to his quality since, and that includes Sarah Palin.
The Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party is classic, and it is Mitt Romney.
Walker states this of himself: “I am 100% pro-life”.
What people are refusing to see is the destruction of the conservative movement as a voice within the republican party.
They hate fubo sooooo much that they are willing to compromise their personal integrity and destroy an entire movement to get him out. Very short sighted.
mcromney needs to be defeated in a very big way. Period. That is the only way our movement survives.
conservative house and senate with some damn backbone can keep this guy in check for 4 years ( really only 1, because just like nixon, this guy will never finish a second term aka fast and furious )....
Time to shut down the emotions and deal with pure logic and tactics. If mcromney wins we lose....
Well, they largely did that in 2010 when Tea Party candidates defeated their fave RINOs.
But we were too busy fighting among ourselves in the 2012 GOP presidential primary to coalesce around one horse, which allowed Romney a path to the win.
And what have we learned from that? Apparently, bupkis. We're still fighting each other just as hard and just as counterproductively.
I was hoping that he was.
And now we are forming two lines - facing each other. The GOP-E is thrilled.
Folks, an ABO FReeper is not the enemy. Nor is someone who has serious enough concerns about Romney to not vote for him.