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"You can't fight evil with evil"
July 17, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/17/2012 3:30:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

As Alan Keyes wrote the other day, you cannot fight evil with evil.

If you haven't read it, do yourself a favor:

A Choice Between Satan and Beelzebub (FR thread)

Brief excerpt:

I grieve deeply as I contemplate the fact that millions of Americans are letting themselves be caught in this diabolical snare. As I tried to point out in 2008, the lesser of evils is still evil. No matter how such an election turns out, people content to choose between Satan and Beelzebub have made clear their willingness to let things go to hell. Moreover, the nature of their choice is so clear to them that they practically boast of the passionate hatred that impels them to it. With this practical boast they become the willing, proud accomplices of the very evil they profess to hate.

I’m morally certain this is why Christ admonished his disciples to make striving for God’s perfection the standard for their actions, rather than their hatred of evil. He thought it better to fail reaching for this standard than succeed by abandoning one’s life to the devil’s dominion. He thought it better to fail in the world’s eyes while commending one’s spirit to God (as he does on the cross) than succeed by casting one’s lot with God’s adversary.

--Alan Keyes

WND link

A man who for over 30 years of his adult life by his own admission justified the wholesale slaughter of innocent and helpless human life is purely evil and can and did justify anything. Many times.

Romney's entire political life has been a mis-adventure into godless liberal/progressive evil. There can be no denying that he has during his tenure either advocated for or personally enacted nearly the entire godless liberal/progressive agenda. He has succeeded where the Democrats have failed and he has shown them the way. His record of evil leftist doings, rationalizing, justifying, flip-flopping and mealy-mouthed parsing and spinning (lying) precedes him and tells the tale of the man. He has no foundation. No core principles. No Christian values. No moral compass. If ever a man was a godless liberal in the GOP, he is Myth Romney.

If the Republican conservatives in office or in leadership positions or in the so-called conservative media would simply stop rooting for this evil bastard and commit to the TRUTH and stand tall for Life and Liberty now and at the convention, we could chuck this liberal bastard onto the ash heap of history and run a pro-life, pro-liberty, pro-small government conservative Republican that we can all be proud to support over the Marxist usurper. And we would WIN in a Reaganesque landslide!!

Perversely, Romney is just about the only Republican who may actually lose to Obama. Hell, even McCain beat Romney.

Taking the right path is not easy and not popular at this time, but it's the only path.

May we stand on God's side while attempting to save our Republic!!

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; FReeper Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; abortion; adrift; elections; fumr; godlessliberals; gop; homosexualagenda; prolife; romney; romneycare; sisterwivesassemble; whenmittbotsattack; zot
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To: D-fendr

“find that conservative presidential candidate that conservatives could all unite behind”

One has yet to be born.

41 posted on 07/17/2012 4:20:15 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: skeeter
...if voting for the lesser of two evils this Nov is an unacceptable course for conservatives then what positive, effective action can we take?

We can vote to deprive whichever evil wins of a popular mandate. The way we do that is to vote third party. Of all years for us to have to do this, Providence has made this year the right one because Obama is in big trouble, as everyone from the MSM to Rush Limbaugh has pointed out: MANY Democrats who voted for Obama last time will desert him at the ballot box this time, either by not voting or by voting third-party.

Every third party vote, not just ours, but those cast by disillusioned Democrats who think Obama isn't "leftist" enough, will count toward reducing the popular mandate of whichever evil wins.

It may not be much to vote or hope for, but Providence is on our side and it's the best strategy we've got. The conservatives we'll be putting in Congress will have a better chance opposing a president so lacking in popular support that the majority of actual Americans (as opposed to electoral college) voted "against" him.

THAT is the effective action we can take.

42 posted on 07/17/2012 4:21:28 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Jim Robinson
There is no RIGHT in abortion!! There is no LESSER EVIL in abortion!! There is no LITTLE BIT dead or LITTLE BIT anti-liberty

Preach it brother!!!

I have no idea how any human can think killing a child is a good thing.


43 posted on 07/17/2012 4:21:55 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: EternalVigilance; Jim Robinson
"I know your deeds. I know you are neither hot nor cold. How I wish you were one or the other hot or cold! But because you are lukewarm, neither hot nor cold, I will vomit you out of my mouth." (Rev 3:15-16).
44 posted on 07/17/2012 4:21:55 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: IronJack

Finish the story, mitt sneakily goes off to the bathroom and has one of his media cronies (drudge) fill in for him - as he has his own bottle undercover - you know, image and all.

45 posted on 07/17/2012 4:22:26 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Jim Robinson
You can shove your weak-assed surrender monkey attitude and insults where the sun don’t shine.

Frank discussion: I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!

46 posted on 07/17/2012 4:26:35 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: grumpygresh

That’s nice and good - but did you ever consider that Mitt will deceive you and has plans of allowing Obama to take it while putting up a phoney fight? Remember, he is a KNOWN Liar and Deceiver.

His plan to take out any conservative in his way was well-planned beforehand for a reason. HE was given favoritism in the debates by the liberal media time and time, again. Why?

47 posted on 07/17/2012 4:29:54 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Servant of the Cross

Those RINO loving trolls who continue to insult me or insult our pro-life conservative posters or berate FR or our conservative principles and goals should not be surprised when they get treated in-kind. Those who become belligerent in their zeal to insult us may very well get the zot, truce or no truce.

48 posted on 07/17/2012 4:32:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Oh no! We have to vote for evil or evil will win. If we don't vote for evil, evil will win.

How many times do they have to repeat that before they figure out evil is gonna win either way?

0 vs R, only difference is skin color. Neither one follows G_d!

49 posted on 07/17/2012 4:34:03 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Unfortunately, the scumbags at TBL decided to continue trolling FR and working to harm FR financially etc.
They redoubled their whisper campaign against FR.
Which shows writ large that there can be NO compromise with evil.

50 posted on 07/17/2012 4:34:20 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Apparently, these said trolls didn’t think much about my proposed truce or they wouldn’t be posting their continual insults.

51 posted on 07/17/2012 4:34:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m not voting for the lesser of two evils. I’m proudly voting for, (and contributing to) Romney.

52 posted on 07/17/2012 4:34:47 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
"I am voting for Goode, rather than either of the evils. ITs the first time in my 65 years ( I firest voted in national election back in 1968) that I will have voted THIRD party. I can no longer hold the nose, vote for the lessor or whatever I am a Christian first, an conservative second and a republican if it fits that template and this election it simeply doesnt so until a conservative is our new Ronald Reagan type of conservative..count me out on national elections. Freegards LEX"

What is your purpose in voting for Goode? There is ZERO chance of anyone third party winning the presidency. The winner will be either Romney or Obama. If Obama wins there will be MORE abortion funding and MORE abortions. More unborn babies will die. There will be NO repeal of Obamacare and some people that would have received better medical treatment are going to die. We have a shortage of ER drugs now and it will get much worse if Obama is reelected. Unemployment is going to continue to get worse if Obama is reelected and people WILL suffer. However if Romney wins MUCH of this horror will be avoided. Why not help Romney win then get a better more suitable conservative on the ballot the next time?

I understand your frustration but if enough of you think this way Obama just might win and people WILL actually suffer that would not if he had been defeated. You've probably heard the phrase, all evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing. If you vote third party you are DOING NOTHING.

53 posted on 07/17/2012 4:35:03 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Lancey Howard

That is certainly much more powerful than anything I posted.

54 posted on 07/17/2012 4:36:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Hitler was a socialist who ran against the communists. They said he was the 'lesser of two evils.')
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To: Jim Robinson
"All or nothing" is a losing proposition.

"Losing" this time would mean losing our country. Romney is flawed. But he is not a Marxist, and he obviously does not hate America. That's not a lot, but this time: it's enough. There is no practical alternative aside from sitting out the election or voting for a candidate with no chance of winning. You are free to do what you wish. At least now, you are.

I will not see my country destroyed by a narcissistic Communist anti-American quisling because his alternative is not sufficiently pure.

Screw that. America deserves to survive and so does my family. With Romney: we have a chance. With Obama: we're finished.

55 posted on 07/17/2012 4:37:33 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Finny; skeeter
Finny, if I may.

The idea that the strategy to “deprive whichever evil wins of a popular mandate” might be wonderful fantasy, but in reality a One Vote Win by Obama will be treated as a Popular Mandate.

I envy your innocence on this point, but Obama will never suffer from the lack of a Mandate. That situation is only applicable to Republicans. Remember Florida 2000?

The Communists, Democrats, Liberal and Progressives have never forgiven Bush for pulling out that win, and they made sure to destroy him with the help of their Pravda inspired Media friends for twelve years running.

I have made this point before, just as I made the point that another four Years of Obama will not magically promote a Conservative avalanche of support in 2016. If we couldn't get a Conservative Candidate this time around after the mess that is Obama, it will never happen. The damage that will result in another Obama Term will be beyond comprehension.

56 posted on 07/17/2012 4:37:42 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only Fair Tax is a Flat Tax.)
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To: presently no screen name
We were united behind Newt

I'm in that 'we' but I don't think it isaccurate to say FReepers were united behind Newt.

[ And, Yeah, I would love to have seen Newt vs. Zero now.]

57 posted on 07/17/2012 4:38:06 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Mondale: “One final point: President Reagan, as Governor of California, signed a bill which is perhaps the most liberal proabortion bill of any State in the Union.”

THE PRESIDENT: “Yes. Well, with regard to this being a personal choice, isn’t that what a murderer is insisting on, his or her right to kill someone because of whatever fault they think justifies that?

Now, I’m not capable, and I don’t think you are, any of us, to make this determination that must be made with regard to human life. I am simply saying that I believe that that’s where the effort should be directed — to make that determination.

I don’t think that any of us should be called upon here to stand and make a decision as to what other things might come under the self-defense tradition. That, too, would have to be worked out then, when you once recognize that we’re talking about a life. But in this great society of ours, wouldn’t it make a lot more sense, in this gentle and kind society, if we had a program that made it possible for when incidents come along in which someone feels they must do away with that unborn child, that instead we make it available for the adoption? There are a million and a half people out there standing in line waiting to adopt children who can’t have them any other way.”

THE PRESIDENT: With regard to Social Security ... I will say this: A President should never say “never.’’ But I’m going to violate that rule and say “never.’’ I will never stand for a reduction of the Social Security benefits to the people that are now getting them.

President Reagan evolved over many years from a union Democrat, to a Republican, to a conservative.

Saving unborn children is a categorical imperative. Politics is largely utilitarian: maximizing the greatest amount of good for the greatest number of people.

With all due respect ... President Reagan didn’t think that
a president should ever say “never,” and neither should we.

58 posted on 07/17/2012 4:38:43 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: precisionshootist
There is ZERO chance of anyone third party winning the presidency.

A self-fulfilling prophecy, made possible only by "conservatives" who support socialists.

59 posted on 07/17/2012 4:39:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Hitler was a socialist who ran against the communists. They said he was the 'lesser of two evils.')
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To: Jim Robinson; Darksheare

Understood. Carry on.

60 posted on 07/17/2012 4:40:16 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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