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EDITORIAL: Boy Scouts stay straight
The Washington Times ^ | July 17, 2012 | Editorial

Posted on 07/17/2012 5:41:06 PM PDT by jazusamo

Freedom not to associate is an important American right

In the Boy Scout oath, a young man promises to keep himself morally straight. Despite pressure from homosexual activists, that pledge will continue to mean something.

On Tuesday, the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) announced that they would retain their policy excluding homosexuals from membership and leadership positions. The announcement followed a two-year review by a select committee, which came to the unanimous conclusion that it was “absolutely the best policy for the Boy Scouts.”

The rule had come under fire from homosexual groups recently after Jennifer Tyrrell was forced out of the leadership of her son’s Tiger Scout den because she is a lesbian. Also, last weekend, Eric Jones, a 19-year-old Eagle Scout, was fired from being a counselor at a Boy Scout camp in Missouri after revealing his homosexual preference.

Homosexual activists claim this is discrimination, but the dispute is actually over the freedom to associate. This was made plain in the 2000 Supreme Court case, Boy Scouts of America v. Dale, which directly addressed the scouts’ policy. The high court held that a New Jersey public-accommodations law did not require BSA to reinstate a homosexual assistant scoutmaster since that application of the law conflicted with the First Amendment right of freedom of association.

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KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; boyscouts; bsa; firstamendment; homosexualagenda; rightofassociation
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Freedom not to associate is an important American right

Amen to that. Good for the BSA!

1 posted on 07/17/2012 5:41:07 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

That’s great. Way to go, BSA


2 posted on 07/17/2012 5:43:28 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady ("When injustice becomes law, then resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: jazusamo

There is a reason the Boy Scouts of America turns out straight arrows.


3 posted on 07/17/2012 5:44:16 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Da Bro' Gotsta Go!)
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To: jazusamo

I guess the BSA won’t be presenting the flag next month at the Democratic Convention.


4 posted on 07/17/2012 5:45:07 PM PDT by AU72
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To: jazusamo

Kudos, BSA.


5 posted on 07/17/2012 5:46:49 PM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: AU72

I sure hope not. :-)


6 posted on 07/17/2012 5:47:56 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I never buy Girl Scout cookies, but always buy stuff from the Boy Scouts....I like their popcorn...really!


7 posted on 07/17/2012 5:48:52 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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Please bump the Freepathon or click above and donate or become a monthly donor!

8 posted on 07/17/2012 5:52:03 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

On my Honor
I will do my best
To do my Duty
For my God and Country,
To obey the Scout Law.
To help other people at all times,
And to keep myself
Physically strong,
MENTALLY AWAKE and
MORALLY STRAIGHT

That’s the Scout Oath. Not much room for buggering reprobates in those lines.

The only solution to this “ tourde” that keeps popping up in the punch bowl is......Scouts out of the United Way; United Way OUT OF THE SCOUTS!


9 posted on 07/17/2012 5:56:07 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture....all should be preserved)
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To: noprogs

It’s nice to read that some institutions cannot be railroaded into doing what is politically correct,but basically wrong.


10 posted on 07/17/2012 5:59:25 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Sola Veritas
I never buy Girl Scout cookies...

Same here; didn't know about the popcorn, though.
Sure would like to find ways to show support for BSA

11 posted on 07/17/2012 6:06:02 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: jazusamo

Great news. Now if we could only purge the BSA of the feminazis who have infiltrated it to an alarming degree. BSA should be men and boys....like it was for me in the 50’s. I went to my nephew’s Eagle ceremony recently and I was shocked to see the staff was half women. Unbelievable. Lord BP would have puked. I’ll bet the Girl Scout leaders aren’t half men!


12 posted on 07/17/2012 6:09:04 PM PDT by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: jazusamo

Two words say it all... Jerry Sandusky


13 posted on 07/17/2012 6:10:38 PM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: stormhill

Sure would like to find ways to show support for BSA

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I’m sure your local troop would be happy to take a donation from you.

As for the popcorn, though, I bought some last year, but I almost fainted when they told me what I owed them. Way overpriced, IMO.


14 posted on 07/17/2012 6:11:04 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Scooter100

...I was shocked to see the staff was half women.

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I agree with you that it should be just men — and I am a woman. But perhaps the problem is that there are not enough men stepping up.


15 posted on 07/17/2012 6:13:03 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: RonF; AppauledAtAppeasementConservat; Looking for Diogenes; wisconsinconservative; AFPhys; ...

Scout Ping


16 posted on 07/17/2012 6:14:33 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: jazusamo
It took two years to reaffirm that it's not a good idea for homosexuals to take little boys off into the woods? Well, at least they got it right. And unanimously, too. Good for the Boy Scouts.
17 posted on 07/17/2012 6:19:19 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: stormhill
Sure would like to find ways to show support for BSA

Find your local Council in the phone book or online, and tell them you want to contribute to Friends of Scouting. Or watch for Cub Scouts, in September and October, selling popcorn in front of a grocery store or at your church.

18 posted on 07/17/2012 6:20:11 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Keeping the drama to a minimum)
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To: jazusamo

Great piece, thanks for posting it. BSA has shown integrity and bravery in the face of a politically correct tidal wave of trendiness.


19 posted on 07/17/2012 6:21:26 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: jazusamo
Eric Jones, a 19-year-old Eagle Scout, was fired from being a counselor at a Boy Scout camp in Missouri

Meanwhile, another Council is being sued because a young man with years in Scout was found to be molesting younger boys.

There can be no exceptions. They must keep homosexuals away from the boys, period ... and, unfortunately, train even the youngest Boy Scouts to recognize, report, shout to high heaven about any sexual activity.

20 posted on 07/17/2012 6:23:16 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Keeping the drama to a minimum)
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To: noprogs
I have a slightly different version, with different punctuation (exact from the 1948 edition, Handbook for Boys)

The Scout Oath or Promise

On my honor I will do my best:
To do my duty to God and my country, and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep my self physically strong, mentally awake,
and morally straight.

21 posted on 07/17/2012 6:24:28 PM PDT by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: Scooter100

Agreed. We had ladies for den leaders in Cub Scouts back then but the Boy Scouts had all men for leaders in the 50’s and later in the 70’s when our son was in, that’s how it should be now.


22 posted on 07/17/2012 6:36:24 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Lancey Howard

Completely agree, FRiend.


23 posted on 07/17/2012 6:37:45 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Tax-chick
There can be no exceptions. They must keep homosexuals away from the boys, period

Very well said, FRiend. The homosexuals, pedophiles and NAMBLA types should not be allowed anywhere near Scouts and all three groups are practically indistinguishable.

24 posted on 07/17/2012 6:43:38 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: AU72
I guess the BSA won’t be presenting the flag next month at the Democratic Convention.

Are you kidding? They were long gone before this. They are the enemy - along with anyone who doesn't depend on government.

I remember how stunned I was when Al Gore in 2000 railed against the BSA in campaign speeches. I thought at the time how far had the Democratic party gone off the deep end; it was like campaigning against motherhood & apple pie.

Nowadays attacks on the BSA are commonplace.

God bless the BSA for not caving - for now.

25 posted on 07/17/2012 6:57:02 PM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: Tax-chick
Amen & Amen again.

For me, by the way....latter 50's:

Troop 93, Somerdale, NJ and
Troop 338, Cocoa Beach, FL

The Scouts taught me to swim at a camp on a Cypress lake, with water the color of tea...where you couldn't see the snapping turtles coming! Ah, fond memories!

26 posted on 07/17/2012 6:58:21 PM PDT by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
I've never met a former Scout I'd want to turn my back on, for fear of being stabbed, and that goes double for Eagle Scouts.

It's a whole lotta hype and hooey. Why these silly folks want to be involved is beyond me.

27 posted on 07/17/2012 7:34:57 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Pontius Pilate 'voters' are arrogant, delusional, lilly-livered collaborators.)
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To: Tax-chick
They must keep homosexuals away from the boys, period ... and, unfortunately, train even the youngest Boy Scouts to recognize, report, shout to high heaven about any sexual activity. Right. This is about protecting young boys from being scarred for life by being molested at an early age. The victims turn out to sometimes fall into habit of homosexual gratification because it is easy and never grow into wholesome manhood and often wind up as suicides in middle age. This is like protecting young boys from being murdered. The boys need to be protected from females too.
28 posted on 07/17/2012 7:48:48 PM PDT by tommix2 (,)
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To: jazusamo

The top people at Penn State are sick about this...


29 posted on 07/17/2012 7:57:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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To: stormhill
Supporting the BSAs gets easier all the time. Popcorn sales are the biggest national fundraisers, and orders can now be placed online. I wish I could tell you how but I'm the techno-noob in the family. Maybe just run a bunch of keywords through your preferred search engine and see what comes up.
30 posted on 07/17/2012 8:15:02 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Scooter100

Not all women are feminazis. If it weren’t for the strong support we have in our troop from the mothers of our Scouts, we would not have a troop at all.


31 posted on 07/17/2012 8:17:56 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: jazusamo

BOB MAZZUCA for President !!! Finally someone who stands up for decency as opposed to politically correct deviancy!


32 posted on 07/17/2012 8:23:32 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: newzjunkey

As a scoutmaster, I have to assume you have not met many scouts. The young men that come out of the program are some of the finest examples of how you would want your 18 year old son to behave.


33 posted on 07/17/2012 8:27:36 PM PDT by krizzy
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To: jazusamo


Here's to him and leaders like him. Damn few left.
34 posted on 07/17/2012 8:28:51 PM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: Lancey Howard

political correctness lost. this round.


35 posted on 07/17/2012 8:45:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: jazusamo

The nature of the interaction of men and boys in the scouts demands it be straight sexually. Homos raped the heck out of boys in the 70’s and 80’s with a nationwide ring.


36 posted on 07/17/2012 9:37:51 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: AU72
I guess the BSA won’t be presenting the flag next month at the Democratic Convention.

Well, just for the record, Mitt Romney kicked the BSA out of the Salt Lake City Winter Olympics right after James Dale was handed down, and homosexual NGO's began their strong, long campaign of vendetta against the BSA, trying to drive them completely out of public life and cut off all their contributors.

United Way promptly, under homosexual influence, cut off the BSA and has kept them on the official hate list ever since. The City of San Diego kicked the BSA out of a city park that the BSA had built with their own labor and given to the City two generations before, after demands were made on the SD city council by the gay NGO's.

Homosexuals make sore losers look like exemplars of grace and winsomeness, by comparison. Their vendetta continues today.

37 posted on 07/17/2012 9:38:54 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: RonF
Ping to a Scouting thread.
38 posted on 07/17/2012 9:42:39 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: grellis

Boys need strong male role models....not female roll models. Quite frankly, your logic stinks and misses the point of the necessity for male leadership and mentoring. If you can’t find upright, dedicated men to run the show, then the BSA shouldn’t sanction a troop there. Period! By the way, are there no real men where you live? How sad.


39 posted on 07/17/2012 11:08:12 PM PDT by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: jazusamo

There can be a case made for women leaders. They progress from den leaders to Boy Scouts.

In our troop we have two ladies that are part of the leadership. They are both valuable to the troop in records keeping and in event transportation planning. One has completed Woodbadge. They both participate in the outdoor program.

We have about 70 scouts and 80 registered leaders.

Last evening I chaired an Eagle Rank presentation ceremony to a scout who returned from Singapore for the ceremony. His family had to move there before the scheduled court of honor. It was a very important ceremony in the life of our troop in that I had presented the Eagle Award to his dad a few years back. It was the first instance of both father and son from the troop receiving the Eagle award.


40 posted on 07/18/2012 5:01:43 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Scooter100
I wonder how many years it's been since you've been involved in Scouts, and if you've ever been involved as an adult.

Our Scoutmaster and Assistant Scoutmaster are both men--as they absolutely should be. Our Outdoor Activities Chair is a man. Our Troop Chaplain is a man. Our Rank Advancement Chair is a man. The remaining positions--Charter Organization Rep, Fundraising Chair, Secretary, Treasurer, and Adult Committee Chair are women. These roles are all support roles for the male adult committee members and have very little to do at all with the Scouts, outside of occasional updates. You don't think it's a good idea for Scouts to see women supporting men? That would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.

You mentioned your recent attendance at a Scout event in which you were horrified to see women involved...were you so horrified that you contacted your local BSA Council to find out how you can get involved in Scouting? No, I didn't think so. Just keep talking the talk there, tough guy. It's easy to be a strong male role model on the internet, isn't it? God bless.

41 posted on 07/18/2012 5:06:21 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: jazusamo
Now they need to immediately purge James S. Turley from the Boy Scout Board of Directors. He is the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Ernst & Young who has been spewing the pro-homosexual New Butt Order (NBO) agenda on the BS.

Time to kick James S. Turley and any other cultural polluters off the Board! The Boy Scouts don't need them.

42 posted on 07/18/2012 7:04:20 AM PDT by Buffalo Bob
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To: lentulusgracchus; Morpheus2009

I would like the straight poop on Romney’s involvement in any decision involving the rejection of Scouts’ involvement in the Olympics.

But it’s extremely nebulous, difficult to pin down, who exactly, made the decision. Probably by design in anticipation of the blowback they’d get.

The second article brings up some excellent points about the hypocrisy of the decision, citing pre-teen athletes allowed to compete, but Scouts not able to support.

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/12/15/214301.shtml

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/2/7/135258.shtml


43 posted on 07/18/2012 8:24:18 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: bert
Thanks, Bert, you make a valid point.

Congrats to the dad and son in your troop receiving the Eagle Award.

44 posted on 07/18/2012 8:36:48 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Scooter100

I agree with you in principle that strong males should be the role models, but the reality is much different in many regions of the USA.

Not every Troop has the benefit of strong male role models available to fill leadership roles.

I have a few “dads” in my Troop who want ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Scouting. Their sons are in, but they aren’t.

Our Troop will accept any parent/adult who is willing to support in any capacity in which they are able.

Yes, men should be in the leadership roles, but women also fill valuable roles as well.

To advocate that BSA NOT sanction a Troop simply because it’s not an all male club is extreme and I disagree with your position. The program can succeed regardless of what sex is involved as long as they are offering the program as intended.

I’ve known some women Scout leaders who are far superior to their male counterparts. They “bleed” BSA green and are wholly bought into the program. That’s the reality.


45 posted on 07/18/2012 8:45:38 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: krizzy; newzjunkey
As a scoutmaster, I have to assume you have not met many scouts. The young men that come out of the program are some of the finest examples of how you would want your 18 year old son to behave.

Damn right! As a father of a Eagle Scout I'll back you up on that one.

As for you newzjunky,if you where trapped in a burning car my son would be the first to risk his life to save your SORRY ASS.

46 posted on 07/18/2012 8:47:29 AM PDT by painter (Rebuild The America We love!)
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To: jazusamo

Actually, they stayed that way because of the lawyers. If they allowed gay scoutmasters and they molested someone, it would be a legal “I told you so” case which always win big. Although it hurts the BSA with pro-gays, it saves them money in the long run.


47 posted on 07/18/2012 8:47:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: bert; grellis

BTTT to your posts.


48 posted on 07/18/2012 8:48:13 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: newzjunkey

My experiences and I’m sure the experiences of many others differ greatly from yours.

I’ll leave it at that since saying anything further about the detritus you posted would not be in agreement with the Scout Oath and Law.


49 posted on 07/18/2012 8:59:20 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: krizzy; newzjunkey
As a scoutmaster, I have to assume you have not met many scouts. The young men that come out of the program are some of the finest examples of how you would want your 18 year old son to behave.

Damn right! As a father of a Eagle Scout I'll back you up on that one.

As for you newzjunky,if you where trapped in a burning car my son would be the first to risk his life to save your SORRY ASS.

50 posted on 07/18/2012 9:01:39 AM PDT by painter (Rebuild The America We love!)
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