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Arpaio press conference: Evidence of fraud. No refute from the Obama White House.
http://www.freerepublic.com ^ | 7/17/2012 | dragnet2

Posted on 07/17/2012 11:06:27 PM PDT by dragnet2

A Sheriff of a major county in the United States conducted a thorough and formal investigation regarding President Obama's birth record.

They provided substantial evidence today in a public news conference saying the birth record is fraudulent.

Yet not a word from the White House.

In fact in the news conference Sheriff Arpaio stated: "President Barack Obama's birth certificate is definitely fraudulent", which they then provided detailed evidence.

How is it possible, with all the resources available to the White House, including an army of attorneys, advisers, researchers and spokespersons, not a single word refuting the evidence laid out today?

These are extremely serious allegations, backed up by evidence, broadcasted in an open public news conference today.

If the evidence Arpaio and his investigators provided were false, misleading or inaccurate, would it not be very easy for the White House with all their available resources, to deny or refute the evidence?

Why the silence?

Can we expect President Obama and his administration to publicly refute or disprove this evidence?

If not, why not?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; FReeper Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arpaio; birthcert; birthcertificate; certifigate; fraud; naturalborncitizen; obama; sheriff
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1 posted on 07/17/2012 11:06:41 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

The GOP better be on this.


2 posted on 07/17/2012 11:09:36 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: dragnet2

Of course they will. They’ll attack Arpaio, they’ll ridicule his investigators, they’ll call him names, they’ll accuse him of wasting money.

But they won’t address a single point addressed. They can’t.


3 posted on 07/17/2012 11:11:46 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: dragnet2

Get this ball rolling. This is a WND petition...

Finally a petition we can all send to Congress on the eligibility issue!

http://www.wnd.com/wnd_petition/petition-urging-congress-to-investigate-obamas-eligibility/


4 posted on 07/17/2012 11:15:48 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: dragnet2

The White House is hoping this will go away & they are getting a lot of help from the media who ignore it as usual.


5 posted on 07/17/2012 11:16:05 PM PDT by Republican1795.
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To: dragnet2

6 posted on 07/17/2012 11:19:49 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: dragnet2
How is it possible, with all the resources available to the White House, including an army of attorneys, advisers, researchers and spokespersons, not a single word refuting the evidence laid out today?

Here's a question that's been in my head but before I pose it I want you to know that I'm behind Sheriff Joe and his findings.

How is it that the White House would have allowed that PDF file go public with it being so obvious that it's a fake?

Are they not technologically savoy enough to know whether all tracks have been covered before posting that?

And the person who created it. Was this his way of doing the job he was getting paid for but figured if he kept it in layers and did not put it together in a jpg he was covered and it would not be considered "forgery" since the layers are separate?

What was going on in the minds of the WH and of the forger?

7 posted on 07/17/2012 11:22:48 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: dragnet2

Obama will not submit that “LFBC” to a state or federal civilian court of law. Nor will he submit it to a military court, but rather let LtCol Lakin go to Leavenworth.

All this for a $12 document.

Rather, he spends thousands and thousands of $$$$$ on lawyers fees to fight doing so.

Why is that?

Because that “document” is not real. It is a hacked-together fake that does not exist in the real world.

And that’s why they’re afraid to enter it into a court of law.


8 posted on 07/17/2012 11:24:54 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: dragnet2
"Yet not a word from the White House."

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Just wait for this moonbat's comments tomorrow.


9 posted on 07/17/2012 11:30:45 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: dragnet2

Ok, lets say that even the democrats can no longer ignore this issue of fraud.
And it is proven beyond a doubt that BHO is not a citizen and should have never been president, what does that mean.
What would happen?
How does congress proceed?
What do the courts do?
Is everything he signed invalid?
What would be the next step?
Biden sworn in?
What?
(Of course I mean beyond the waling and gnashing of teeth, riots in the streets.........what happens to the country?)


10 posted on 07/17/2012 11:32:54 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Republican1795.
The White House is hoping this will go away

Sometimes I question that. Not 100% of the time but sometimes I wonder.

Before 2010 I wondered if maybe the reason for not releasing his birth certificate was because:

A) He wanted the republicans to run on this issue and just before the elections he would come out with it (a real one) and then the republicans would be left without an issue the weekend before the election.

Or

B) This was just his way to nullify the US Constitution and send a message that we are all Americans until proven otherwise.

Or Both A & B

Or

C) He either had something to hide or had no birth certificate at all from within the country.

As time went on and seeing what this man has done as President and the things he says I tended to believe the answer is probably C and the second part of C (not of America).

But still, as I see him talk about Romney "having something to hide" he's a "felon" and "Romney needs to release his documents". What? is Obama trying to get the Birther issue going full throttle again?

This man is the oddest duck I've ever seen in the WH. Something's just not right.

I want to see this Birther issue cleared up even if it's after the election and even if Obama loses. And justice served.

11 posted on 07/17/2012 11:35:00 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: tsowellfan
When I do graphic art design for someone, I send them everything in PDF form so any text, graphic or background color can be modified easily. My guess is that the “artist” sent the file to be approved and the receiving party, not knowing anything about layers, approved it and ran with it.
12 posted on 07/17/2012 11:40:26 PM PDT by Casie
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To: dragnet2

At least Sheriff Joe is doing his job......keep it in the news for the next few months and let it create more doubt with voters about the fraud that is Obama.

It’s just another source of votes for our side...


13 posted on 07/17/2012 11:40:45 PM PDT by profit_guy
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To: dragnet2
Scripts are being written if needed, count on it.
Their big hope is, with the help of the MSM, that it will all fade away in a few days.
The MSM may cover it lightly for a day, but there will be no *beating the drum*.
Will be interesting as to what our conservative radio pundits will do tomorrow.
14 posted on 07/17/2012 11:42:00 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: dragonblustar; All
The GOP better be on this.

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Response from the Gutless Old Party:

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15 posted on 07/17/2012 11:42:32 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Casie
My guess is that the “artist” sent the file to be approved and the receiving party, not knowing anything about layers, approved it and ran with it.

That sounds like exactly what may have happened.

16 posted on 07/17/2012 11:43:32 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: Cobra64

hehe! Who is that man?


17 posted on 07/17/2012 11:44:36 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: dragnet2
That would mean that the birth certificate is Fraudulent. Might explain why Obama just said Romney committed a fraud. Believe it or not, there might actually be a reason for some of the nutty things Obama does.

So we have a rogue President with the largest chip on his shoulder in perhaps world history (first US black President) also hiding one of the worst frauds in world history. Anyone seeing any good coming out of all this ? Impeachment might be a requirement at this point. Otherwise some poor country out there is gonna get walloped real good (wag the dog he ate)

18 posted on 07/17/2012 11:46:56 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: tsowellfan
http://www.wnd.com/wnd_petition/petition-urging-congress-to-investigate-obamas-eligibility/

Freeped!

The petition needs to be updated.

"PROBE INTO THE MATTER DISCOVERING “PROBABLE CAUSE” Proof

19 posted on 07/17/2012 11:49:26 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: tsowellfan
I want to see this Birther issue cleared up even if it's after the election and even if Obama loses. And justice served.

Most of us agree with you 100%. Others, including many FReepers say it doesn't matter, move on, it's just a distraction.

To me, the rule of law is not a "distraction." If this whole mess causes a "constitutional crisis," then so be it. Hopefully we'll get it straightened out and get our Republic back to basics.

20 posted on 07/17/2012 11:51:18 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: tsowellfan
How is it that the White House would have allowed that PDF file go public with it being so obvious that it's a fake?

The public would have accepted even a worse document. It's not obvious that the document is a fake. The forgers were not professionals, and they couldn't think that someone else would be smarter than them.

Are they not technologically savvy enough to know whether all tracks have been covered before posting that?

It's not just a matter of technology, it's (now) a matter of history and of social interactions. If some JBTs show up at a house of a 90 year old retiree what can they ask? "Does this BC looks like a fraud to you?" They don't even have the right question to ask. The same applies to layers. They could walk into a printer shop, but they didn't know what to ask other than "do you see anything suspicious in this here true copy of a HI BC?" That would have required a messy cleanup after the question is asked.

And the person who created it. Was this his way of doing the job he was getting paid for but figured if he kept it in layers and did not put it together in a jpg he was covered and it would not be considered "forgery" since the layers are separate?

It was a sloppy job all around, done by a Photoshop user who had only a general idea of what he is doing. The little details of inner workings of the software were all mystery to the forger. The administration is full of 3rd rate people. The admission criteria are not what you think they should be. Besides, on what level of confidence, how close to The Body this person has to be to be trusted with such a job? If I were in Obama's shoes I would have only two candidates who I could trust without reservation, and that would be myself or my wife. Nobody else. Nobody else with half a brain would even sign up to do this job, lest they want to end up suddenly dead from natural causes.

The most important reason, though, why they didn't try harder is because they didn't expect a popular revolt. Every person of importance in the party, and in the Congress, had to be either aware or blind. They didn't care much either, as long as they have a suitable sock puppet with the required albedo. In essence, The People were ignored - "those commoners and peasants don't matter." Judges repeatedly ruled that voters "have no standing" to challenge the rights of modern patricians.

21 posted on 07/17/2012 11:51:59 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: tsowellfan
hehe! Who is that man?

It's got to be a typical Republican congressman.

22 posted on 07/17/2012 11:54:10 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: dragnet2

Did you hear the hostile questions from the press posed to Arpaio and the detective who gave the presentation? If only they could be that hostile with Obama.


23 posted on 07/17/2012 11:56:13 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: tsowellfan; Red Steel; rxsid; 444Flyer; Travis McGee; MrB; Lera; metmom; RnMomof7; TaraP; ...
Maybe a Constitutional Crisis was what they were counting on if it ever manifested. Bammy had a lot of offshore money.

Including fundraising by a Hamas terrorist-supporting phone bank.


24 posted on 07/17/2012 11:56:28 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Cobra64

“constitutional crisis,”

I just said the same thing.

Maybe that was the backup plan all along.


25 posted on 07/17/2012 11:59:13 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Greysard
Thanks for the reply! Great answers to my questions. I agree that it had to be somebody they could trust if they didn't try to do it themselves. Perhaps the admitted American terrorist friend of Obama had some sort of connection to this.

Also, I got another reply which also seems possible.

When I do graphic art design for someone, I send them everything in PDF form so any text, graphic or background color can be modified easily. My guess is that the “artist” sent the file to be approved and the receiving party, not knowing anything about layers, approved it and ran with it.

26 posted on 07/17/2012 11:59:29 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: Casie
“When I do graphic art design for someone, I send them everything in PDF form so any text, graphic or background color can be modified easily. My guess is that the “artist” sent the file to be approved and the receiving party, not knowing anything about layers, approved it and ran with it.”

I agree. Great theory of why the form was not finished correctly... I've had several statewide pdf forms go from draft to final and posted online without being finalized by me.

27 posted on 07/18/2012 12:01:58 AM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: dragnet2

“No refute from the Obama White House.”

Not YET.

Either they are going for a surprise, or they were caught flat-footed.

I think it was the latter. Normally, they have something prepared.

They didn’t this time.

From what I’ve seen, the evidence is compelling. How do you spin that the lady who signed the certificate is a liar? lol

Not to mention the fact that in Hawaii, as long as the parents live there, they will be able to obtain a valid birth certificate no matter where the baby was born.

And, the twins born after him have a higher birth number than he does.

I could go on, and on. But, I won’t.

I’ll just sit back and watch the fallout.

BTW, I’ve never been a birther, and don’t think this will go anywhere in Congress, but at least we have new ammo!


28 posted on 07/18/2012 12:07:24 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: Cobra64

I agree. It does matter.

We cannot pick and choose which parts of the Constitution matter and which parts do not. If we allow this to happen (and the republican controlled Congress is doing just that) who’s to say the pResident will not push the envelope and sign an EO banning all handguns? I mean, why is that more important than anything else in the Constitution?

A very slippery slop and I fear we are already at a velocity that’s too high to save us from going all the way down.

John Boehner needs to go. Sadly, Obama has been allowed to do more damage under this House than he did under Pelosi. And that’s very telling. There’s such a pile on Boehner’s desk now that it would take decades to go through it.

“Repeal Speaker John Boehner” needs to be a required campaign promise from any conservative running for Congress in 2012. Otherwise, nothing will get done. We gain nothing.


29 posted on 07/18/2012 12:08:59 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: DesertRhino

That is exactly what the press did at the conference, and pubbies will mimic. The DC testicle shortage continues.


30 posted on 07/18/2012 12:10:18 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("The cross opens its arms to the four winds; it is a signpost for free travelers." GK Chesterton)
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To: Republican1795.

facebook already has blocked it.


31 posted on 07/18/2012 12:10:37 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: dixiechick2000

We are all birthers now.


32 posted on 07/18/2012 12:13:32 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("The cross opens its arms to the four winds; it is a signpost for free travelers." GK Chesterton)
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To: Cobra64

GOP, because just one DNC isn’t enough.


33 posted on 07/18/2012 12:13:57 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Cobra64

LOL! Perfect.


34 posted on 07/18/2012 12:16:50 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("The cross opens its arms to the four winds; it is a signpost for free travelers." GK Chesterton)
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To: F15Eagle

I want Lt. Col. Lakin to be vindicated.


35 posted on 07/18/2012 12:17:25 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: dragnet2

What I don’t understand is Ms. Lee says she signed the BC. Is Zullo saying it’s fraudulent because of the codes and that anyone can get a BC? Or is he saying it IS obama’s BC?


36 posted on 07/18/2012 12:18:05 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: thecodont

Me too


37 posted on 07/18/2012 12:19:25 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: TauntedTiger

Something I did not get from Sheriff Joe’s conference was anything about the forger. What I mean is, The Globe and what was written about a person of interest.

I remember hearing them mentioned at the news conference something about a person of interest but they didn’t say why.


38 posted on 07/18/2012 12:19:32 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: thecodont

If nothing else, it doesn’t matter if Bammy was born to somebody American, like FMD or whomever.

What matters is the the WH has put out a complete fraud of a document that cannot be backed up by Hawaii.

At that is enough to impeach this clown and all his cohorts at the DNC including Pelosi for signing those eligibility documents.


39 posted on 07/18/2012 12:22:11 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Terry Mross

He said her signature may have been pulled from another document from around the same time and cropped into forged document.


40 posted on 07/18/2012 12:24:15 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: dragnet2

Obama isn’t refuting because he knows he has the whole country scared witless. He’s in effect saying: “So what are you going to do”? The coup d’etat is complete, the country is on the road to being run by the UN (the muslims and the communists).

Look for the next step. A few years ago there was a book by some islamic dreamer, I forget the title and his name, but one of the new acts of the Islamic Republic of America was to be renaming the USS Ronald Reagan. To the Osama bin Laden.


41 posted on 07/18/2012 12:24:15 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama Kills))
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To: Greysard

This also convinces me the elder obama is not his father. That’s why they felt a need to put his name and “African” on the BC. So, he could have been born in Hawaii (I don’t believe it) but changed it up over the fatherhood issue.


42 posted on 07/18/2012 12:24:15 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: F15Eagle
At that is enough to impeach this clown and all his cohorts at the DNC including Pelosi for signing those eligibility documents

Exactly! Only one problem: John Boehner

43 posted on 07/18/2012 12:26:17 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: tsowellfan

Bottom line is they have proven that it hasn’t been proven where he was born.


44 posted on 07/18/2012 12:29:26 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: dragnet2
How is it possible, with all the resources available to the White House, including an army of attorneys, advisers, researchers and spokespersons, not a single word refuting the evidence laid out today?

Under orders not to speak until they, individually, get their talking points.

45 posted on 07/18/2012 12:40:03 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: tsowellfan
FReepmail
46 posted on 07/18/2012 12:51:31 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: DesertRhino

‘Of course they will. They’ll attack Arpaio, they’ll ridicule his investigators, they’ll call him names, they’ll accuse him of wasting money.

But they won’t address a single point addressed. They can’t.”

Well stated...right to the point and truthful. The Obama admin cannot come out and claim either the BC posted on the Whitehouse website genuine or fraudulent. Because either way they respond they are admitting to a crime.


47 posted on 07/18/2012 1:05:50 AM PDT by Fully Awake DAV (Navy Vet when homosexuality was not tolerated)
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To: svcw

“(Of course I mean beyond the waling and gnashing of teeth, riots in the streets.........what happens to the country?)”

I think, along with many others, that the whole reason for not taking Obama and the DNC to the woodshed is because they think the black community would riot. At this point I think the black community is so “over” the pigmented Whitehouse occupier, very few would cause a ruckus. Given the fact that many democrats are distancing themselves from Obama and rightfully concerned about their re-election chances this fall, they better start doing the right thing...soon or the democrat party is going to be decimated.


48 posted on 07/18/2012 1:13:28 AM PDT by Fully Awake DAV (Navy Vet when homosexuality was not tolerated)
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To: F15Eagle

long nite.....I’ve tried to answer the cell 4 times and it’s been off for 5 hours.....lol


49 posted on 07/18/2012 1:16:15 AM PDT by advertising guy (the White House hasn't had this much leakin since Billy Carter watered the Rose Garden)
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To: tsowellfan
This man is the oddest duck I've ever seen in the WH. Something's just not right.

The understatement of the week.

50 posted on 07/18/2012 1:48:56 AM PDT by Misterioso (No one can escape the influence of a prevailing ideology. -- Ludwig von Mises)
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