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Arpaio press conference: Evidence of fraud. No refute from the Obama White House.
http://www.freerepublic.com ^ | 7/17/2012 | dragnet2

Posted on 07/17/2012 11:06:27 PM PDT by dragnet2

A Sheriff of a major county in the United States conducted a thorough and formal investigation regarding President Obama's birth record.

They provided substantial evidence today in a public news conference saying the birth record is fraudulent.

Yet not a word from the White House.

In fact in the news conference Sheriff Arpaio stated: "President Barack Obama's birth certificate is definitely fraudulent", which they then provided detailed evidence.

How is it possible, with all the resources available to the White House, including an army of attorneys, advisers, researchers and spokespersons, not a single word refuting the evidence laid out today?

These are extremely serious allegations, backed up by evidence, broadcasted in an open public news conference today.

If the evidence Arpaio and his investigators provided were false, misleading or inaccurate, would it not be very easy for the White House with all their available resources, to deny or refute the evidence?

Why the silence?

Can we expect President Obama and his administration to publicly refute or disprove this evidence?

If not, why not?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; FReeper Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arpaio; birthcert; birthcertificate; certifigate; fraud; naturalborncitizen; obama; sheriff
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To: Fully Awake DAV
I'll tell you, Obama plays the part of a black American well. The truth is (and this we do know for sure) he is not a typical black American (actually it's possible he's not an American at all - but that's another point).

His ancestors were not slaves. (actually they were slave owners).

Obama's grandfather and father never had to deal with what black American fathers and grandfathers dealt with. If Obama's an American he's a first generation American.

I'm willing to bet that the black American dialect he uses sometimes is not his real way of talking. The first time I heard Barack Obama speak was when listening to the radio. I thought he was a white guy until I heard more about him.

What I do know about black Americans is this. They do NOT like African immigrants. Especially those from the horn. Somalis and black Americans hate each other.

I've had some black Americans tell me that.

Also, you've heard about the Somalis in Maine? Well, the easy social programs is only part of what attracted them here. Several Somali co-workers have expressed their dislike of black Americans to me.

"You know why many Somalis like Maine and come here from Colombus, Ohio and from Atlanta?" one asked me. "Too many black people there - black Americans" He made a face of disgust when he said that. I can't even understand them when they talk he added.

Yeah, black Americans voted for Obama but only because of skin color. No deeper than that. They know Obama is not of the same culture as the typical black American.

51 posted on 07/18/2012 1:55:19 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: tsowellfan

They are still all going to vote for him. So what does it matter?


52 posted on 07/18/2012 2:03:37 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
They are still all going to vote for him. So what does it matter?

True. But I was referring to the rioting comment if he were impeached. Would they riot? Probably. But most likely it would not be as massive as one may think.

53 posted on 07/18/2012 2:07:52 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: Misterioso

Even if Monica came out tomorrow and admitted that she was Hillary’s lover when she had her thing with Bill I could still say Obama is the oddest duck I’ve ever seen in the WH.


54 posted on 07/18/2012 2:10:25 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: dragnet2

Obama is a FELON!


55 posted on 07/18/2012 2:20:22 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: dragnet2
Obama and the DNC will still have their Romney.
Myth Romney is reportedly pushing the RINOs into protection mode for his Obama
regarding the extensive "BC" frauds.

Romney: "Obama was born in the United States"

Romney: "Obama Doesn’t Need a Birth Certificate"

Romney: "The citizenship test has been passed"

/a

56 posted on 07/18/2012 2:53:54 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: dragnet2
Obama and the DNC will still have their Romney.
Myth Romney is reportedly pushing the RINOs into protection mode for his Obama
regarding the extensive "BC" frauds.

Romney: "Obama was born in the United States"

Romney: "Obama Doesn’t Need a Birth Certificate"

Romney: "The citizenship test has been passed"

/a

57 posted on 07/18/2012 2:53:54 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: tsowellfan

I hope this story gets media coverage this morning.
I wish someone would publish the computer layering “code” so that all curious hacker types could see for themselves. Then they could be “interviewed” explaining how easily it was done. Perhaps there would be code somewhere to link to a computer or server. If people all over the country were seeing how it was done there might be more traction to the story.

The other thing is the DNA. Get some DNA from one of the so called Obama Sr. relatives and run it. It should be an easy check.


58 posted on 07/18/2012 2:59:04 AM PDT by upstatenyrepublican
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To: tsowellfan

Nathan Fillion, actor.


59 posted on 07/18/2012 3:18:50 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Terry Mross

He is saying the “original” certificate is altered. That is the substance of his saying it is a fraudulent document.

Later in the conference he addresses how a birth certificate to someone not born in Hawaii could come into existance, and still can!

On a separate issue, Barry is not going to say boo about this because he, abetted by Bonehead in the house, is going to let sleeping uneaten dogs lay.


60 posted on 07/18/2012 3:31:02 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Republican1795.

Will any of this be discussed on Fox News (Bill O’Rielly, Shawn Hannity, Greta, Megan Kelly, etc.?), Rush Limbaugh, Mitt Romney or among any of the RINOs? This is the elephant in the room and no one, beyond Drudge, Freerepublic, WND and a couple of other places will even discuss it, though our national security definitely could be compromised because of it. This issue should be front and center and it is covered up at every turn. Folks, I feel hopeless when the enemies among us are greater than those external to us. As I see it the anarchy which will result in dictatorship is here (flashmobs by the young..”Oh, those kiddes just need jobs!” No, those kiddies feel they have a license to do that!” and the powers which could do something about it are mum.) History will view us the same as we view Nazi Germany..Why did those people allow that to happen..Why did they not see what Hitler was doing? We are no different than those people were and we could suffer the same fate. Thanks to Sheriff Arpaio and his experts. They are doing their best to save our great country and they are getting very little help from a media which deals in propaganda and left wing politics only.


61 posted on 07/18/2012 3:45:14 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Terry Mross

Bottom line is they have proven that it hasn’t been proven where he was born.

In reality turning the issue full circle, back to the dead end issue for the GOP/Tparty.

Basically old news is no news.

The Senate will insure there is no conviction should there be an impeachment. Thus insuring the house looks like a bunch of Partisan Republicans should they be so stupid as to carry this forward.


62 posted on 07/18/2012 3:48:41 AM PDT by wita
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To: upstatenyrepublican

Think about the chances of the average American to actually become President. The same position as George Washington. Abraham Lincoln status. President Reagan. With all your credentials and documentations or those of your children or grandchildren. Just think of the chance good Americans like you, your children or grandchildren have at someday having their photo in the history books next to those of Washington, Lincoln and Reagan.

Today we have a man sitting in that very position and we have NO idea where he comes from. And we’re paying the man atleast 30% of our income to be there.


63 posted on 07/18/2012 4:01:17 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: wita

Bottom line is they have proven that it hasn’t been proven where he was born? No, bottom line is somebody forged a document.

In reality turning the issue full circle, back to the dead end issue for the GOP/Tparty? The GOP controls the House.

Basically old news is no news.

The Senate will insure there is no conviction should there be an impeachment? They took an oath and can also be held accountable.


64 posted on 07/18/2012 4:05:50 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: dragnet2
America's Sheriff has definitively asserted the document purported to be Obama's birth certificate to be a forgery.

Now will our elected representatives start asking the Big-3 Networks what their own investigation has found?

And if they haven't done their own investigation, why not.

65 posted on 07/18/2012 4:06:19 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: dragnet2

“How is it possible, with all the resources available to the White House, including an army of attorneys, advisers, researchers and spokespersons, not a single word refuting the evidence laid out today? “

Because the scope of the coverup is so widespread, they need to make sure that EVERYONE involved sticks to the same LIES when they do issue statements.


66 posted on 07/18/2012 4:24:03 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: tsowellfan

No, bottom line is somebody forged a document.

But that someone is not the President and therefore,
having been duly elected, this along with every other
threat to his presidency will be swept neatly under
the rug. Case closed.


67 posted on 07/18/2012 4:30:45 AM PDT by wita
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To: dragnet2

Can we expect President Obama and his administration to publicly refute or disprove this evidence?

If not, why not?


The answer is simple: The people who support Obama (and the Democrat party) want free stuff and affirmative action benefits....nothing else.

Nothing else matters except that Obama’s regime promises them utopia within the Marxist world....nothing else.


68 posted on 07/18/2012 4:36:40 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Casie

hmmmm....very interesting post


69 posted on 07/18/2012 4:38:03 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: wita
But that someone is not the President

How do you know the pResident did not forge the birth certificate?

70 posted on 07/18/2012 4:38:11 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: dixiechick2000
"Not to mention the fact that in Hawaii, as long as the parents live there, they will be able to obtain a valid birth certificate no matter where the baby was born."

Since, Hawaii also issued a birth certificate to China's 1st Communist President, Sun Yat Sen, even though he was born in Guangdong, China...

...isn't it only fitting that Hawaii extended the same courtesy to America's 1st Communist President?

71 posted on 07/18/2012 4:45:40 AM PDT by drpix
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To: SamAdams76; All

The best Obama exposure site on the net:

The Obama File
http://theobamafile.com/

The United States Library of Congress has selected
TheObamaFile.com for inclusion in its historic collection
of Internet materials
http://theobamafile.com/LibraryOfCongress.html

Just a few of the pages:

http://www.theobamafile.com/index_next_politics.html

http://www.theobamafile.com/index_next_personal.html

http://www.theobamafile.com/BarackObama.htm

http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/FamilyPage.htm

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaEducation.htm

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaPsychology.htm

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaReligion.htm

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaWife.htm

http://www.theobamafile.com/_associates/ObamaAssociates.htm

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaIconography.htm

.

.


72 posted on 07/18/2012 4:46:49 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: F15Eagle

There is a reason Lincoln is his favorite president. He wants to be at the helm - and win - CW 2.


73 posted on 07/18/2012 4:53:44 AM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: drpix

Woodrow Wilson? or are you talking about good old Honest Abe?


74 posted on 07/18/2012 5:27:55 AM PDT by winodog
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To: tsowellfan

Whether he did or didn’t isn’t really the issue. The story has been declared DOA two or three years ago, how it is going to rise from those ashes is the question that I believe has already been answered. Republican’s are racist!

If by some strange quirk, it somehow gains traction, more power to it, and I sure won’t complain.


75 posted on 07/18/2012 5:29:27 AM PDT by wita
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To: jazzlite

Good Post!


76 posted on 07/18/2012 5:44:57 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: TexasCajun
if they haven't done their own investigation, why not.

Why not, indeed. Maybe the commies have already taken over and Congress is powerless to do anything. It sure would explain a lot. The Supreme Court not upholding the Constitution, every democrat in the Senate walking lock-step on every issue, the republicans afraid to go against him, the media being totally partisan. This is all unprecedented.

77 posted on 07/18/2012 5:50:51 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Terry Mross

Ms. Lee did not specifically say she signed BO’s BC. She wouldn’t remember something like that for a unknown baby. Just that she was one that would sign BC’s and verify information as a 2 step verification process.

Those numbers that are #9 should be areas on the BC that are blank. No information should be in those areas, yet there is. This means that this BC has been altered and nullified because of it. This is considered fraud and forgery on a federal level.

Yet crickets!


78 posted on 07/18/2012 5:56:25 AM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: advertising guy

I’ll bet, lol

But good that you were there


79 posted on 07/18/2012 6:45:35 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

I want you to read this link....I’ve been up all night and it’s 6:52 am here in Phoenix....I’ve read every post related and watched local tv about the presser..hell saw myself a dozen times on the news ...

anyway.....as a pitch by pitch this is the best there is .http://www.politi
jim.com/2012/07/quick-summary-of-sheriff-joe-20.html

all it lacks is eyes on, the ole LeRoy Jethro gut, and my observations which I’ll add way later after sleepin.

.. the magnitude of that presser is like a 8.4 offshore miles and miles away......did you feel sumpthin ?

then the wave hits

watch

ps...if you are another can mke a stand alone thread of that link with follow up it would be outstandin and lastly

an HD video is bein finished of the presser soup to nuts

will link when finished

nite all.....46 sheep

53 sheep

Ann Margaret...........


80 posted on 07/18/2012 6:58:11 AM PDT by advertising guy (the White House hasn't had this much leakin since Billy Carter watered the Rose Garden)
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To: advertising guy

oops....better linkhttp://www.politijim.com/2012/07/quick-summary-of-sheriff-joe-20.html


81 posted on 07/18/2012 7:00:58 AM PDT by advertising guy (the White House hasn't had this much leakin since Billy Carter watered the Rose Garden)
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To: tsowellfan

D) BHO is a bastard, his mommy and daddy were not married, ever.

E) Frank Marshall Davis is his real dad.


82 posted on 07/18/2012 7:04:03 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: advertising guy

Looks like that is in French and requires a login?

Is there an open English version?


83 posted on 07/18/2012 7:10:20 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

post 81


84 posted on 07/18/2012 7:18:09 AM PDT by advertising guy (the White House hasn't had this much leakin since Billy Carter watered the Rose Garden)
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To: Nightshift; LucyT; null and void; Candor7; rxsid

ping to ad guy post

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2907851/posts?page=81#81


85 posted on 07/18/2012 7:55:46 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: wita
The story has been declared DOA two or three years ago, how it is going to rise from those ashes is the question that I believe has already been answered.

Declared dead by whom, based on what evidence?

Arpaio and his investigators provided substantial evidence, yesterday, which has not been refuted or proven inaccurate.

How is it possible, they could continue to simply ignore the evidence?

This really begs the question:

Why would the Republicans in Congress not run with the evidence and demand answers to very legitimate and credible questions?

86 posted on 07/18/2012 8:58:47 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Of course they have no comment. They’ll simply ignore it and soon it will go away because something else in the 24-hour-news-cycle will displace it.


87 posted on 07/18/2012 9:50:05 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (I wanna start a Seniors' Motor Scooter Gang. Wanna join?)
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To: advertising guy

Someone made a stand alone thread for that article last night. It was a good summary.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2907830/posts


88 posted on 07/18/2012 10:04:52 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

Why would the Republicans in Congress not run with the evidence and demand answers to very legitimate and credible evidence?


89 posted on 07/18/2012 10:50:03 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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no refute from the White House

Why would they reply? It's not like anybody is going to do anything about it. They just thumb their noses, say "eff you" and continue along their merry way.
90 posted on 07/18/2012 11:18:50 AM PDT by 762X51
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To: dragnet2

If you are posting here and have not yet posted a demand with your House Rep. and Senators demanding that they investigate Arpaio’s evidence and enforce the Constitution’s Presidential eligibility requirements - HANG UP AND DRIVE!


91 posted on 07/18/2012 12:45:54 PM PDT by TexasVoter (No Constitution? No Union!)
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To: tsowellfan

What is known about the obama staffer who died last week...the 29 year old fellow....what was his expertise in layering, graphics, etc?


92 posted on 07/18/2012 12:52:22 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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To: TexasVoter
Why would the Republicans in Congress not run with the evidence and demand answers to the very legitimate and credible evidence?

Do you feel you need to beg them to preform their duty?

93 posted on 07/18/2012 2:12:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TexasVoter
Why would the Republicans in Congress not run with the evidence and demand answers to the very legitimate and credible evidence?

If you are posting here and have not yet posted a demand with your House Rep. and Senators demanding that they investigate Arpaio’s evidence and enforce the Constitution

Ya see that's the whole problem. No one needs to make demands from me, in order for me to perform my job.

Why do overpaid government officials and your non-representative representatives need to be begged and demanded upon, to perform their Constitutional duties?

How come these questions go unanswered?

94 posted on 07/18/2012 2:38:21 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragonblustar

Citizens better be on this. This isn’t political, its the rule of law.


95 posted on 07/18/2012 2:49:10 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: tsowellfan

I think we should all visit our local sheriffs and demand they support their own in this matter.


96 posted on 07/18/2012 2:51:00 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: dragnet2

Because the Repubs in Congress are either RINOs, spineless or a combination of the two.


97 posted on 07/18/2012 3:15:17 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (I wanna start a Seniors' Motor Scooter Gang. Wanna join?)
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To: tsowellfan
At that is enough to impeach this clown and all his cohorts at the DNC including Pelosi for signing those eligibility documents

Exactly! Only one problem: John Boehner

I believe the GOP establishment wants this issue ignored because of Marco Rubio not having citizen parents. Their assumption seems to be that if they don't pursue the eligibility angle against Obama, the Dems won't dare use it against Rubio.

98 posted on 07/18/2012 3:24:52 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: wita

It isn’t old news that Hawaii has an illegal birth certificate factory going on , is it?


99 posted on 07/18/2012 4:22:49 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Casie
I send them everything in PDF form so any text, graphic or background color can be modified easily.

Hi, I think you have this a bit wrong and I hope you don't mind me making some clarifications. Layered documents can only be modified on the layers to any expert degree with programs such as Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign. I'm expert level in all of these applications. When I create a document starting with these programs, I can output the file as a PDF for review or as a final printer's document, and so on. If I didn't merge or flatten the layers before outputting to PDF, then the document might be able to be opened in one of these original software programs so that further editing on the layers could take place if needed. Not all PDFs are importable into those programs, and some conversion will take place, especially if versions or platforms differ. Usually I can open anyone's PDF in Photoshop or InDesign, but those files don't always all behave the same.

Anyway, in my experience, it is not standard practice to send a PDF to an end user for making more modifications on that file. I don't want anyone to be making a version outside of my control anyway, especially in a separate software application (unless I didn't care to be the master holder of the most recent version of the document). In fact, it's very clunky to make changes to any PDF using Acrobat and that is what most end users have (and then it's typically only the free Reader, not the full program). If I wanted the recipient to be able to modify my original file, I would send the native file. Why would we go back and forth with PDFs, only to have them have to be reconverted in another program? (I admit I am only familiar with Adobe products, perhaps you use another PDF software editor?)

IIRC, what investigators discovered with the BC PDF was that after they opened the file in Illustrator, the layers were visible. I agree that the receiving party, not knowing anything about layers, approved it and ran with it! Which begs the question, did the forger intentionally leave the layers in the PDF unmerged because they wanted them to be discovered? Because it's a stretch for me to think that the forger would be using these programs to create layers and then not merge them before outputting to a final PDF. But they might have been rather rushed or just forgetful. The mystery continues...

100 posted on 07/18/2012 4:37:00 PM PDT by Rona_Badger (Heeds the Calling Wind)
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