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Romney Campaign Disses Palin: Throws Party Unity Overboard
The American Spectator ^ | 7.17.12 | Jeffrey Lord

Posted on 07/18/2012 10:15:59 AM PDT by CaptainKrunch

Here we go.

So now come all these news reports (just for example, here, here, here, and here) that Team Romney has decided deliberately -- deliberately -- to trash Sarah Palin by not inviting her to the Tampa convention.

And they expect people to rally to their candidate when they are out there sticking their finger in the eye of the party's base? Sending a message to the Tea Party to go take a flying leap?

 If this is true, and no less than Governor Palin herself has said she is uninvited, one can only wonder:

What are these wizards of smart thinking?

Historically, people who are trashed by their own party employ the one entirely fatal weapon they have at their disposal: they stay home in November.

Having a unified convention is Politics 101.

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To: joe fonebone
send mittens down in flames...

You are advocating we reelect Barack "you didn't build that" Obama. Really?

51 posted on 07/18/2012 11:07:39 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Obama Admits He Can't Fix What Bush Broke, So Why Reelect Obama?)
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To: CaptainKrunch
Just great. More of the "kinder, gentler nation" approach that served Bush I so well. Palin gets kicked to the curb, and the RNC gives us Kung Fu Panda as keynote speaker...

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52 posted on 07/18/2012 11:09:13 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Erik Latranyi
I am tired of crybaby conservatives. To this day, in multiple threads, FReepers cannot agree on a single candidate (that was running) who would be better than Romney.

Just about any candidate would have been better. Maybe you should look for another website like maybe "RINO Republic.com" or something.

53 posted on 07/18/2012 11:11:15 AM PDT by McGruff (Support your local Republican candidates. They are our last line of defense.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Mr. RomneyCARE is Soros’ partner and Obama’s supporter.

In 2008, Mr. RomneyCARE gave America the undocumeted
Marxist by attacking Gov. Palin through surrogates
(for what possible reason?)

Today, Mr. RomneyCARE continues to plan to lose, and lose
big as he alienates every single REAL conservative.


54 posted on 07/18/2012 11:21:28 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Romney does not come close to being a moderate. Fabian socialist however fits him to a “T”. Is it not a sad day when we are contemplating saving ourselves from a Marxist communist by electing a socialist?


55 posted on 07/18/2012 11:22:43 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse (RNC) will learn to sing)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Mr. RomneyCARE backstabbed and CHEATED and changed the
rules during the game.

CHEATING.

BACKSTABBING.

Not conservative principles, are they?
But then, Mr. RomneyCARE has soooooooooooo many others,
like RomneyCARE, death panels, TARP and Sharia.


56 posted on 07/18/2012 11:24:08 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: KC_Lion
Thank you for the picture's link ... the word "Carson" is a clue.

That's the LA suberb where Palin appeared.

57 posted on 07/18/2012 11:26:02 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: so_real
I'd rather gridlock Obama, and pursue him with impeachment, with a solidly conservative House and near-to-it-Senate...

Like that's going to happen. The GOP leadership doesn't have the spine to stand up to Harry Reid, and you think they will suddenly develop the spine to stand up to Obama.

Here's what WILL happen: Obama will turn his back on the congress and go into full blown govern-by-executive-order mode.

Obama's recent gutting of welfare reform was just a trial balloon to see what he could get away with.

Say goodbye to the 2nd amendment. By the time Obama is finished issuing executive orders you won't be able to buy ammo, much less a gun.

Say goodbye to free-speech on the internet. Obama, by executive order, will crack down on it.

Say goodbye to being able to donate to a cause without your name being splashed across public documents. Obama will institute the DISCLOSE act via executive order.

Say goodbye to honest elections. Obama, with an executive order, will issue guidelines making it impossible to prevent voter fraud.

Say goodbye to any type of abortion restrictions (including parental consent). Obama will eliminate them all via executive order.

And who will stop him? A conservative congress? That's a laugh. The courts (the same one that just bent over backwards to uphold ObamaCare)? That's a bigger laugh.

You'd make the country, your children, and your grand-children suffer through all that, just so you could give the finger to the GOP RINOs? Really?

58 posted on 07/18/2012 11:30:17 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Obama Admits He Can't Fix What Bush Broke, So Why Reelect Obama?)
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To: Brookhaven

I am not going to cast a ballot for fubo...

I am not going to cast a ballot for mcromney...

I am not going to cast a ballot for a socialist...

Period.....

If you buy into the notion that standing firm for your principles, your beliefs, and your personal integrity is what you need to do, so that one socialist can get elected over another socialist, well, maybe conservatism is not for you...

Try being a republican, that will be much easier....

I am the 15%


59 posted on 07/18/2012 11:32:05 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: so_real

Your post really needs a like button.


60 posted on 07/18/2012 11:34:39 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse (RNC) will learn to sing)
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To: so_real
I'd rather gridlock Obama, and pursue him with impeachment, with a solidly conservative House and near-to-it-Senate

That scenario is simply not going to happen and a classic example of LITPPT (Linus-in-the-pumpkin-patch-thinking).

You really think voters are going to re-elect Obama while simultaneously voting in conservatives in the Congress? Of course not. An Obama re-election will almost certainly result in a GOP loss of the House majority and further losses in the senate.

Our only hope to take over the senate and increase our lead in the House is to sweep Obama out of office as well. Can't do one and not the other. Had Obama been on the ballot in 2010, he would have lost. We need another 2010 in 2012.

61 posted on 07/18/2012 11:40:14 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SoFloFreeper
"The enemy is Obamugabe, and I will do everything I can to defeat him in November."

Dittos. . . . . .

62 posted on 07/18/2012 11:41:15 AM PDT by DeaconRed (My vote in Nov will be dictated by my extreme hatred for ZERO and what he is doing to our country.)
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To: joe fonebone

The next president will either be Obama or Romney.

The way to take over the GOP is from the bottom up—local & state, then congress, then the president. It won’t be quick; it won’t be easy; it won’t get done in one election cycle. It’s a long term solution, but it’s a plan that will actually work.

Crying because we couldn’t start at the top on our first try isn’t going to fix anything, it’s just going to make things worse.

And, that’s the path you are heading down—the “making things worse” path.


63 posted on 07/18/2012 11:43:54 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Obama Admits He Can't Fix What Bush Broke, So Why Reelect Obama?)
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To: llevrok

Why would she be given a role if she won’t endorse him, old bean? Money has nothing to do with it.


64 posted on 07/18/2012 11:45:14 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: OldNavyVet
I am glad I could Help, I didn't know L.A. had a Suburb called Carson, My first thought was Carson City, Nevada.

If she could get that kind of Crowd in California, than Sarah really does represent the Best hope for us Liberty Lovers.

I hear Orange County California is (or used to be) a fairly conservative Place.

But then the last time I visited California was back in June of 2001 when I was 12 for our Family trip to Disneyland. So I don't know the area well.

65 posted on 07/18/2012 11:45:55 AM PDT by KC_Lion (The Supreme Court issued their ruling on Obamacare. Soon, We the People shall issue ours.)
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To: Deb

Why?

Because Mr. RomneyCARE owes her, and conservatives,
dearly for THROWING the 2008 Election to the DNC.


66 posted on 07/18/2012 11:46:44 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2
"it’s about getting Obama out of the White House"

We have not done much good if all we do is replace a Marxist with a Socialist. Our goal should be smaller Constitutional government. Neither Romney nor Obama advance our agenda so neither Romney nor Obama should get our votes. Simple as that. I am hoping a conservative 3rd party gains a little traction so I will have a reason to vote at the top of the ticket this election.

67 posted on 07/18/2012 11:47:22 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Westbrook

It’s silly. She would give a pro-Mitt speech that would galvanize the base. Course, there is a risk of her overshadowing him. She should get the keynote.


68 posted on 07/18/2012 11:47:22 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: Candor7

Of course, the Tea Party can’t win anything without the rest of the party. Even Reagan supported Ford when he lost the nomination. If Sarah won’t endorse Romney, why would he invite her to anything?


69 posted on 07/18/2012 11:49:20 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: CaptainKrunch
The highly paid “smart” staffers are idiots if they are doing this.
Palin could bring a whole lot of energy to the campaign without overshadowing Romney; if they would let it happen.

Always have a huge grain of salt with these types of media reports however.

But they are fools if they are trying to minimize Palin. They need to have a small amount of testicles and belief in their selves so as not to worry about being overshadowed.

70 posted on 07/18/2012 11:51:22 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("The writing is on the wall - Unions are screwed. reformist2 10:04 PM #27")
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To: Diogenesis

Take off your crazy pants and go away. Go flack for Lew Rockwell. His supporters probably understand what the Hell you’re talking about.


71 posted on 07/18/2012 11:53:16 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: ryan71

We’re (Christians) the blacks of the GOP. How long will we allow them to take us for granted? To lie to us? To shut us out?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There’s a great deal of truth to what you say. Go back to 2004 and look at the demographic block that was responsible for re-electing W.

It wasn’t RINO’s. Or soccer moms. Or any other type group. It was Evangelicals.

And because Evangelicals were kicked to the curb in 2008, the Repugs lost. And does anyone think the results will be different in November?

Of course not.


72 posted on 07/18/2012 11:53:50 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Deb
Who the h*ll is Lew Rockwell?


73 posted on 07/18/2012 12:00:35 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Deb
You can PRETEND to not know what this is about
but everyone who is sentient, does.

Romney for Obama in 2008

Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.


"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off ….hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



74 posted on 07/18/2012 12:04:50 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Brookhaven

Like that's going to happen. The GOP leadership doesn't have the spine to stand up to Harry Reid, and you think they will suddenly develop the spine to stand up to Obama.

Hell, yes! It's already happening. Sea Treaty all but dead, 34 GOP senators oppose. Get with the program: when we weed the garden, the flowers bloom. Stop weeding it -- heck, make Romney the gardener -- and it goes south. All the fear-mongering hypotheticals you threw my way are impeachable offenses. Absolutely Congress should deal with it, or it'll be Civil War if they don't. And I'd rather do the fighting in a Civil War than pass that responsibility on to the next generation.

You'd make the country, your children, and your grand-children suffer through all that, just so you could give the finger to the GOP RINOs? Really?

Giving the finger to the GOP has nothing to do with it. In fact, I'd prefer they returned to being our best buddy. I do this so the children and grand children of all Americans are not relegated to proletariat status. I do this so they can live as free men and work toward their own success under the American dream. I draw the line in the sand today, so they need not draw it, or die trying, tomorrow.

McCain *supported* the Sea Treaty. Romney is *more* liberal than McCain. Romney could not even beat McCain in the 2008 race -- was a 3rd place loser. What do you really expect in return for making Romney your leader? Less than you could have expected from McCain, I guarantee you. And when Romney flies his true colors, it will be twelve years before you have a chance at a do-over. During eight of those years Romney will spend his time breaking down the Tea Party rebellion and damaging the conservative brand. How do you think you'll fair in twelve years with an empowered GOPe, a shadow of a Tea Party, and no influence in Congress?

We have muscle today. Today is the day to flex it. When you wake up and realize that Obama is throwing this election, and that Romney is more interested in gaining disaffected democrat voters than conservative voters, you'll understand why. I hope it is not too late before then.


75 posted on 07/18/2012 12:07:22 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: joe fonebone
The gop-e can be put out of business. We have the numbers to do it. Do we have the guts? I do.... I am the 15%

Joe, I thought the same thing and voted for Perot. Boy, were we going to show the Republican Party. Look were that got us, 8 years of Clinton.

We had conservatives running in the primary and instead of us putting all our eggs in one basket, we were split twenty ways to Monday.

I understand where you are coming from and in no way would I want to change your mind or anyone else but I will be holding my nose this November and vote. I rather hold my nose then to loose it which will happen if "someone" gets re-elected. My feelings are we get a four year extension to try to elect more conservatives in the congress and senate.

76 posted on 07/18/2012 12:07:47 PM PDT by Two-Bits (Failure to know history is sadly a way to repeat some of the most evil ever done.)
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To: joe fonebone

AMEN.


77 posted on 07/18/2012 12:08:38 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: KC_Lion; OldNavyVet

The first photo is from 2008 in Ca.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2908021/posts?page=15#15

The one below is from 2010 and it was a Tea Party rally in Nevada.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2908021/posts?page=44#44


78 posted on 07/18/2012 12:09:47 PM PDT by Clyde5445
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To: prisoner6
Well said, Brother FReeper!!!

"The enemy is Obamugabe."
NO! The enemy is socialism, communism, marxism. BOTH parties are infected with the disease.

I'll be voting to deny either one a mandate. I WILL be voting conservative up and down the ticket, and third party at the top. Sitting at home and not voting at all is giving up. Use your franchise to FIGHT BACK.

HOLD FAST.

79 posted on 07/18/2012 12:14:33 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Brookhaven

first of all I am not crying....if you cry your vision gets blurred and you cannot see clearly.. I see things with crystal clarity..

the next president may very well be fubo or mcromney, that does not mean that I have to lend my support to either one ( this is the little secret the republicans will not tell you, you can always vote for someone else in another party )..

I have been shouting out your plan to “take over” from the bottom up since 1988.... how has it worked out so far????

there were 85% during the time of the revolution that said that the 15% fighting for freedom were only going to make it worse... did they???

sorry pal, but I am done compromising with evil, with the new world order socialists that dominate today’s american political scene....

either you are with them, or you are against them. It really is that simple..

Open up your mind and let go of the pre concieved notions that these people are brainwashing you with..

Join the 15%


80 posted on 07/18/2012 12:19:28 PM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: Diogenesis
Yeah, right...everything's a conspiracy. Run for your life THE FIX IS IN!!! It was McCain staffers who leaked and trashed her to the media.

I got a mastiff here that's farting like a locomotive, I don't have time to waste on your delusional clap-trap.

81 posted on 07/18/2012 12:21:31 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: SamAdams76

That scenario is simply not going to happen and a classic example of LITPPT (Linus-in-the-pumpkin-patch-thinking).

Wrong. It already happened. Clinton was met with impeachment proceedings two years into his second term. Clinton was better liked and had more support from his party. The democrats feel Obama's value is at and end and are eager to lose him. Obama is desperate to escape the Whitehouse before he is visited with impeachment papers or handcuffs. That is why he has turned an unprecedented "hard left" months before an election. He wants out. HCR 107, impeachment proceedings, is already in the House and gaining steam. Impeachment is Plan B for both the Republicans and Democrats who want him out.

You really think voters are going to re-elect Obama while simultaneously voting in conservatives in the Congress?

I really think that because Obama gained the Whitehouse we made massive headway in both houses of Congress in the following election. I think Romney will make it an unspoken goal to suppress that progress if he is empowered. Obama couldn't do that if he tried. For example, his influence in my state, Wisconsin, is effectly neutered as he wouldn't even set foot here to campaign against Scott Walker. Romney can damage us because of that "R" behind his name.

Had Obama been on the ballot in 2010, he would have lost.

That depends on who he would have run against in 2010, just like it does today. I wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton if she ran as a republican, and yet that is what the GOPe is asking us to do with Mitt Romney. I say "no". For the good of the nation, "no".


82 posted on 07/18/2012 12:25:19 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: joe fonebone
Join the 15%

You can't win an election with only 15%.

And, the plan you lay out never leads to you having enough to win an election--never.

83 posted on 07/18/2012 12:30:49 PM PDT by Brookhaven (Obama Admits He Can't Fix What Bush Broke, So Why Reelect Obama?)
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To: so_real

Absolutely, posi-FREEPing-tively correct!


84 posted on 07/18/2012 12:31:19 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Brookhaven
The way to take over the GOP is from the bottom up—local & state, then congress, then the president.

I've been hearing that for 20 years now. Won't happen. Ever.

85 posted on 07/18/2012 12:37:28 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: jpsb; All
Neither Romney nor Obama advance our agenda so neither Romney nor Obama should get our votes. Simple as that.

It really is that simple. And abiding by this simple truth provides the ONE CHANCE we have of being able to weaken whichever statist wins, and that is to vote third party, split the popular vote into a plurality, and help make it so the next president, whether he is Obama or Romney, lacks a popular mandate.

The beauty of being true to the simple truth that you state above, is that no matter who casts a third-party vote in disgust -- disillusioned Democrats (and Obama is in big trouble on that front), leftist wacko Green Pinheads, high-minded Independents, angry Libertarians, and conservatives who grasp the SIMPLE TRUTH you posted above -- every single third party vote regardless of who cast it, will ultimately serve to weaken the popular mandate of the statist president we will inevitably get in 2013. The more people who vote third party at the top of the ticket, the better for conservatism.

The last president elected on a split-vote plurality, Clinton, where a full 57% of Americans voted "aganist" him, was creamed by the Republican Revolution two years later.

Yes, Virginia, your "throw-away" third party vote actually DOES have a positive value.

86 posted on 07/18/2012 12:41:22 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Deb
Take off your crazy pants and go away.

Another example of how the words of Romney supporters (though they hate being called that even when they announce they'll vote for Romney and urge others to do the same) indicates EXACTLY how a Romney administration would treat conservative Republicans.

The words and actions of the folks who'll vote for Romney, even -- especially -- those who deny that they are "supporters" and believe it in their hearts, speak volumes about Romney himself.

Letting fear and hatred Obama manipulate conservatives into voting for Romney to be the leader of this nation and thethe Republican party, is BEGGING for a thoroughly bad outcome.

87 posted on 07/18/2012 12:51:50 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Diogenesis

Forgot to ping you, Bro FReeper.


88 posted on 07/18/2012 12:52:34 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Finny

Oh, shut up.


89 posted on 07/18/2012 12:55:21 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Timber Rattler
I've been hearing that for 20 years now. Won't happen. Ever.

There was no Tea Party or Fox News 20 years ago, and El Rushbo was just getting started, so color me not quite so pessimistic.

90 posted on 07/18/2012 12:56:18 PM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: so_real
Wrong. It already happened. Clinton was met with impeachment proceedings two years into his second term.

And that accomplished what exactly? The Clinton impeachment was about as effective as the recent contempt vote against Holder. Clinton was not only able to finish out his term but the lapdog media and Hollywood celebrities continued to fawn over him all the way to the end of his term - and beyond. Now, whether we like it or not, he (Clinton) will be known as a popular two-term president, regardless of the impeachment and all the other crap that went on during his presidency.

Well I don't want that kind of happy ending for Obama. I want Obama unceremoniously dumped from office a la Jimmy Carter. Only with an electoral defeat in November can we rid ourselves of Obama and have him go down in history as a failure. If Obama is re-elected, he will have it made in the shade and he'll have full backing of the mainstream media who will inoculate him against any move the Republicans may make against him - you can take that to the bank.

Our one and only chance to remove Obama is in November at the ballot box. I prefer to take my chances on Romney than to continue keeping a domestic enemy of the United States in office any longer than we have to.

91 posted on 07/18/2012 12:57:26 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: so_real; All
I draw the line in the sand today, so they need not draw it, or die trying, tomorrow.

Thank you for saying it so well!!! Bravo!!!

Calm, calculating minds will HEED THESE WORDS:

What do you really expect in return for making Romney your leader? Less than you could have expected from McCain, I guarantee you....We have muscle today. Today is the day to flex it. .... Romney is more interested in gaining disaffected democrat voters than conservative voters ....

92 posted on 07/18/2012 12:58:29 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Two-Bits; joe fonebone
25cents confesses: I thought the same thing and voted for Perot. Boy, were we going to show the Republican Party. Look were that got us, 8 years of Clinton.

And we also got the Republican Revolution. If HWB had been re-elected, or if Clinton had won on a majority, which YOUR RIGHT VOTE for Perot denied him (I didn't have your courage, and voted for HWB), it's probable that the Republican Revolution would never have happened and we'd be even more leftist today than we are.

The enemy isn't the Democrat party. The enemy is STATISM. You voted for Perot because you were sick of statism and although your guy lost and the statist Democrat won instead of the less-statist Republican, the fight against statism made a major advance.

Voting third party, in a situation of two weak major statist candidates like we have in 2012, benefits the fight against government tyranny. I will use my vote to FIGHT and weaken statism. ANY vote for Romney will only serve to strengthen statism.

93 posted on 07/18/2012 1:07:38 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: so_real
Clinton was met with impeachment proceedings two years into his second term.

Wow -- good point! I forgot about that! Both terms, Clinton was denied a popular mandate; the first time he only got 43% of the popular vote, and the second time, he only got 49% of the vote. Both times Clinton was elected, the majority of Americans rejected him.

94 posted on 07/18/2012 1:11:54 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Deb; All
Oh, shut up.

Yet another example ... the behavior of Romney's supporters speaks volumes about Romney. Deb speaks this way to me -- Romney would speak that way to all conservatives.

95 posted on 07/18/2012 1:17:24 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Finny
"Romney supporter"? You're obviously smoking crack... not something a real conservative would do. Put down the crack pipe and wait for the looney bus, it'll be by any minute.

Once again, shut up.

96 posted on 07/18/2012 1:29:28 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: SamAdams76

What the impeachment of Clinton "accomplished" in your mind or in mine is irrelevant as it pertains to Obama's predicament. What is relevant is that it proves even a RINO infested Congress is willing to impeach a sitting president, and we are weeding the RINO's out. Furthermore, Clinton was well-liked by his party. And the case made by the republicans was a bit weak. Obama is not nearly as well liked, in fact he is despised by many in his own party, and the oversteps in authority he has made provide ample grounds for impeachment. Clinton avoided a successful impeachment by a mere 17 votes. How will Obama fair when he has outlived usefulness to his own party and his politics are despised by the freshman senators we install in a few short months? Obama knows his odds of lasting a second term are slim and none. He wants out and is actively throwing this election to Romney by taking a hard turn left so close to election day. Romney is well aware of Obama's position. Romney is not reaching out and making promises to conservatives. Romney is remaining silent on current event issues that he should be addressing to court us. Romney is not making a play for conservative voters because he trusts he will be the recipient of a wealth of disaffected democrat votes. He believes this, combined with the wishful thinking votes of the ABO crowd and his own country club base, will put him over the top without us. If he wins, he will feel absolutely no obligation to the conservative base whatsoever. His actions as POTUS will mimick his actions as governor. When you take your chances with Romney, you live with the consequences for the next 12 years before you get a do-over. We've learned how to push back against Obama and are getting better at it. I'll take my chances and live with consequences for 2 years at best, 4 years at worst, before I get a do-over. I'll vote for the conservative on the ballot -- Goode -- and be well rested with a clear conscience and my mind at ease to continue the fight after election day.


97 posted on 07/18/2012 2:13:38 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: SoFloFreeper

“The enemy is Obamugabe,”

It finally dawned on me why so many want to vote Romney, and why I won’t.

Those of you in the Romney camp have misidentified the enemy.

It isn’t Obama.

Obama is WITH the enemy but not THE enemy. He is merely their current front man.

Elect Romney and HE will be their front man.

Think about it.


98 posted on 07/18/2012 2:27:55 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: so_real
I think your premise that Obama will be successfully impeached (removed from office) should he gain a second term is weak. If Obama is re-elected, he will be hailed as the "Comeback Kid" and the euphoric lapdog media will go all-out to inoculate him against anything the Republicans throw at him with respect to impeachment. Further, Obama will now have a clear mandate to impose whatever evils he has in mind for the destruction of the United States of America as we know it. He'll also be able to pack the Supreme Court with as many as three or four more liberals as we have several justices in or approaching their 80s. After four more years - if we are lucky - Obama will ride off into the sunset like Bill Clinton and enjoy a long, happy life of lucrative speaking engagements and Nobel prizes and such.

That is why our only real option to remove Obama comes at the ballot box this November. We need to send him down to a smashing defeat while increasing our hold on the House and maybe taking control of the senate in the process.

Based on what we accomplished in 2010, I am optimistic that we will have much reason to be celebrating just 112 days from now.

99 posted on 07/18/2012 2:35:36 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Nik Naym

I have thought about it. You’re wrong.


100 posted on 07/18/2012 2:37:08 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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