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Zogby: Obama outperforming Romney among “upscale voters”
Hotair ^ | 07/21/2012 | BY ROB BLUEY

Posted on 07/21/2012 12:17:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Voters with college degrees and international travelers are breaking for President Obama over Mitt Romney in the presidential race, according to a polling analysis from John Zogby. Romney, meanwhile, comes out ahead among top earners and the middle class.

The trend should be worrisome for Obama, Zogby wrote:

The picture that emerges from these select numbers is one of dissatisfaction among voters with the highest income, but an incumbent who might be able to cut his losses among more upscale voters by appealing to those with college degrees and those who have a more international perspective. At the same time, the president is waging an all-out war against Romney to win over middle income voters who, at the moment, are really enamored with Obama. An incumbent presently winning only 36% of voters in the $50,000 to $75,000 income range spells potential trouble for him.

Here’s how the numbers break down from Zogby's analysis of a total sample 5,300 likely voters:

Hot Air also covered Zogby’s previous analysis, which examined the “marriage gap” — the sharp political divide between married and single voters.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; bho2012; college; obama; upscale; zogby
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1 posted on 07/21/2012 12:17:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t let your kids grow up to be college student............


2 posted on 07/21/2012 12:19:51 PM PDT by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: SeekAndFind
That's because they think they won't be among the 6.5 billion peasants UN Agenda 21 wants to "disappear."

Have they got a surprise coming.

3 posted on 07/21/2012 12:19:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well educated does not necessarily mean wise.


4 posted on 07/21/2012 12:20:17 PM PDT by CaptSkip
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To: SeekAndFind
"Upscale"?

Does this mean that their snobbish vote is worth more than mine?

5 posted on 07/21/2012 12:21:59 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: SeekAndFind

One of the reasons our collages are progressively more and more expensive while turning out a poorer and poorer product is that they are moving from education in practical skills to political indoctrination.

If collages were made to issue & back their own loans to be repaid over the next 20 years you might see that too change very quickly.


6 posted on 07/21/2012 12:22:58 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: SeekAndFind

To paraphrase the well-known saw: There are lies, d*mned lies, and polls.

Only one “poll” matters, and that’s held in November; the rest is BS.


7 posted on 07/21/2012 12:23:26 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: SeekAndFind

Methinks the HotAir regular editor is on vacation and they let a part time Jr. High School student do the editing for this article.


8 posted on 07/21/2012 12:24:17 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: SeekAndFind

The college crowd thinks Obama is going to flush their student loans; that’s why they want him.


9 posted on 07/21/2012 12:26:05 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: SeekAndFind
Voters with college degrees and international travelers are breaking for President Obama over Mitt Romney...

It sounds like "the rich" are breaking for Barry. Whodda thunk he'd ever get the 1% voting block.

10 posted on 07/21/2012 12:26:19 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Who is Barack Hussein Obama?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Here’s how the numbers break down from Zogby's analysis of a total sample of 5,300 liberal voters:
11 posted on 07/21/2012 12:26:31 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks SeekAndFind.
12 posted on 07/21/2012 12:27:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SeekAndFind
I have a college degree and do a certain amount of international traveling and I wouldn't vote for Osama Obama if he was running unopposed.
13 posted on 07/21/2012 12:29:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Poor Barak.If He's Reelected,Think Of The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: SeekAndFind
That's because they have spent more time in the hallowed halls of academia and thus have been more brainwashed/indoctrinated by mostly, far left, Moonbat, Profs...many of which are products of the 60's/70's and in turn, taught today's liberal educators.

As someone who has an MBA, I speak from experience, though I got my undergrad degree in 1980 and it was a tough slog even then, trying to balance my speaking out and even arguing with so many of those glittering jewels of ignorance and educated idiots who knew 0 about the real world and getting decent grades.

14 posted on 07/21/2012 12:31:02 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: SeekAndFind; Lazamataz

I am a Zogby member and am also college educated (I even teach at a university) and often lecture and work overseas... I know I’m in Zogby’s database as a conservative, since they keep track of my responses.

Needless to say, I was NOT selected for this particular poll!

Remember “Zogby’s Special Sauce©”...

© Copyright by Lazamataz, 2000


15 posted on 07/21/2012 12:40:49 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: SeekAndFind

Another crap poll by Zogby. He polls people who have traveled internationally? As if that is a formidable and identifiable voting block?? Zogby might as well poll people ho have chronic athlete’s foot.

He breaks down college educated voters from the middle class?? The middle class is essentially college educated! They either graduated or attended college.

Hence, this poll by Zogby is meaningless.


16 posted on 07/21/2012 12:42:03 PM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: SeekAndFind

Among the important group of voters making between $50,000 and $75,000 per year, Romney holds a 6-point edge, 42 percent to 36 percent. This income group makes up 21 percent of likely voters. And, according to Zogby, “it is the group that normally provides the winner in presidential elections going back to 1972.”

Even Zogby thinks Obama will lose. It must look really bad for the Kenyan.


17 posted on 07/21/2012 12:42:16 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: SeekAndFind

Zogby give Gore/Kerry/Obama an edge.


18 posted on 07/21/2012 12:44:11 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: SeekAndFind

All these numbers are actually very bad for Obama as he never hits 50%. and the undecideds historically break for the challenger. This election is not about Romney, it is about the very scary Obama.


19 posted on 07/21/2012 12:44:42 PM PDT by rushmom
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To: SeekAndFind

International Travelers??????? Hahahaha!


20 posted on 07/21/2012 12:45:42 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Monorprise

Colleges raise tuition every year. Some have multibillion dollar endowments. Collage aid leads to higher tuition for the same (or worse) schooling.


21 posted on 07/21/2012 12:46:32 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I smell b.s. I have many years of college and majored in the evaluation of b.s. I smell b.s. and lots of it.


22 posted on 07/21/2012 12:47:15 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: a fool in paradise

Zogby Could be an Islamic mole, just sayin!


23 posted on 07/21/2012 12:47:15 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: SeekAndFind

find this hard to believe.......


24 posted on 07/21/2012 12:53:39 PM PDT by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: basil

I o bot believe this for a second.


25 posted on 07/21/2012 12:54:46 PM PDT by Hildy (F"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: basil

I o bot believe this for a second.


26 posted on 07/21/2012 12:54:46 PM PDT by Hildy (F"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: SeekAndFind
Something doesn't make sense. The poll shows Obama with a good lead among the College educated, but losing to Romney among those who earn between $50,000-$75,000 and over $100,000.

This would either mean that people earning $75,000-$100,000 support Obama by 2-1 over Romney, or a majority of College educated people earn less than $50,000!!

27 posted on 07/21/2012 12:56:37 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: SeekAndFind

They admire his ability to golf all the time and not to do any work, but get paid. They want to be like him.


28 posted on 07/21/2012 1:00:35 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: SeekAndFind

ZOGBY = “SPECIAL SAUCE” = GARBAGE


29 posted on 07/21/2012 1:02:49 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NC, FL, VA, OH, NV o/r IA = 271EV)
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To: TMA62
"He polls people who have traveled internationally? As if that is a formidable and identifiable voting block??"

This is probably true for those international travelers who have completed a one way trip from Mexico to the US.

30 posted on 07/21/2012 1:03:48 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: SeekAndFind
is there anything Angry Lesbian Woman's Studies graduates don't know???
31 posted on 07/21/2012 1:04:21 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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They say college educated, but not in what. I would guess that college educated in engineering and hard sciences is highly against Emperor Nero Narcissus, but those are the minority of college graduates. I would guess that anybody who got a degree in something that either has the word “Studies”, or “Science” in the title is 100%, which is a much larger number, and skews the statistics.


32 posted on 07/21/2012 1:04:34 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

Zogby is not a credible pollster anymore


33 posted on 07/21/2012 1:05:42 PM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: Gay State Conservative
"I have a college degree and do a certain amount of international traveling and I wouldn't vote for Osama Obama if he was running unopposed. "

Me too. They didn't poll this college educated guy.

34 posted on 07/21/2012 1:13:52 PM PDT by halran
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To: EGPWS

You count as 3/5 a person now.


35 posted on 07/21/2012 1:14:29 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: SeekAndFind
•Voters who have traveled internationally give Obama a 10-point advantage, 48 percent to 38 percent.

I wonder how many military, returning from Afghanistan and the sand box were polled.

36 posted on 07/21/2012 1:18:37 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: SeekAndFind; All; wagglebee; AmericanInTokyo; writer33; napscoordinator; cripplecreek; ...

Fascinating. The Democrats are becoming the party of “upscale” voters? I thought the Democrats were supposed to be on the side of the poor and underprivileged.

The poll may be garbage as several Freepers have said, but polls like this point to something which really **IS** important in American politics — the increasing division of the historic base of the Democratic Party, the blue collar “working class” and “working poor,” away from two groups which have remained steadfastly Democrat, namely, the academic elite liberals and those in generational poverty.

Unfortunately we have Romney as our standard-bearer who is almost the worst possible person to exploit that division in Democratic ranks. Regardless of whether Romney is a slash-and-burn robber-baron crony capitalist, the Democrats will paint him as being that, and enough people will buy the argument that some people who don’t like either candidate will end up voting for Obama as the lesser of two evils.

With time, however, we may start getting better Republican candidates who really **CAN** capitalize on the growing anger of “working-class” and “working poor” families against selfish welfare takers, on the one hand, and on the other, privileged liberal and immoral elites.

Much of the Christian conservative vote falls into one or both of those two categories of anger —

1) people who for sociological reasons are upset at “takers” of welfare who are spending the hard-earned money of people only one step up than them on the social scale, or

2) people who for religious reasons are upset at the gross immorality being pushed by liberal elites on the rest of America.

Christian conservative issues have their own power, of course, but it’s good for America that evangelical Protestants and conservative Roman Catholics happen to fall into social classes where their religious objections to American trends being pushed by Democrats are in close alignment with their own economic self-interests.

Pre-1960s populist Democrats understood that. Modern Democrats may or may not understand, but they don’t care, and that is where we may just be able to win.


37 posted on 07/21/2012 1:19:41 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Hildy

It gets harder all the time to know what to believe.

I do know that our schools have been dumbed down, and they are often indoctrination centers for the left.........


38 posted on 07/21/2012 1:23:03 PM PDT by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: SeekAndFind
# Romney does slightly better among voters earning $100,000 per year or more. He leads by 3 points, 47 percent to 44 percent. Zogby predicts this group will make up about 13 percent of likely voters.

# Among the important group of voters making between $50,000 and $75,000 per year, Romney holds a 6-point edge, 42 percent to 36 percent. This income group makes up 21 percent of likely voters. And, according to Zogby, “it is the group that normally provides the winner in presidential elections going back to 1972.”

So if Zogby is saying that Art History majors working at Starbucks who have $200k in outstanding college loans are in the tank for Obama -- yeah, OK, I'll buy that!

39 posted on 07/21/2012 1:25:45 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s because they’re the smartest people in the room, not because colleges are mouthpieces for liberal propaganda.


40 posted on 07/21/2012 1:36:14 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: SeekAndFind

That is what conservatives get for letting the left get away with claiming moral superiority, these people are just lemmings trying to join the “in” group.


41 posted on 07/21/2012 1:36:59 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess living in their parents basment... Smokin’ dope...and having mommy pay for their birth control,food,and video games, make their minds weak and easy to control with flashy black quotes from a freakin’ liar in chief.


42 posted on 07/21/2012 1:37:34 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: SeekAndFind

Survey sez: dumbest people going to college,


43 posted on 07/21/2012 1:46:46 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (6 November, 2012, the day our embarrassment is sent back to Kenya.)
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Keep FR Running
Fight back.
Counter the MSM spin machine.

44 posted on 07/21/2012 1:48:02 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: SeekAndFind

Kind of like Chris Matthew’s on Jeopardy smart?


45 posted on 07/21/2012 1:54:44 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: SeekAndFind

Considering the Left Wing Brain Washing they get for 4 years It should be much higher


46 posted on 07/21/2012 1:58:37 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Cowboy Bob
Something doesn't make sense. The poll shows Obama with a good lead among the College educated, but losing to Romney among those who earn between $50,000-$75,000 and over $100,000.

Maybe because all those grads that took sociology and female studies and English as majors are working at Mikey Ds
47 posted on 07/21/2012 2:02:21 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: SeekAndFind

Tens of thousands of dollars to produce Morons,what a Waste of time and Money,they should all be drafted on graduation day to serve in Afghanistan,let them get a taste of real service to their country,bunch of stupid idiots .


48 posted on 07/21/2012 2:07:02 PM PDT by ballplayer
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To: SeekAndFind

College INDOCTRINATED give Obama the edge AMONG THEMSELVES


49 posted on 07/21/2012 2:09:12 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: basil

Eh, I’ve never known of any poll where one could examine the cross tabs to see more about these people. My guess is, and I may be wrong, that much of the edge of the ‘educated’ comes from government workers at all levels.


50 posted on 07/21/2012 2:13:54 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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