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Colorado Shooter's Behavior "doesn't add up"
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Posted on 07/21/2012 9:09:14 PM PDT by truthfinder9

His behavior doesn't add up

His behavior already reveals stark inconsistencies that question the mainstream explanation of events. For example, he opened fire on innocent people but then calmly surrendered to police without resistance. This is not consistent with the idea of "killing everyone."

Furthermore, he then admitted to police that his apartment was booby-trapped with explosives. If you were really an evil-minded Joker trying to kill people (including cops), why would you warn them about the booby trap in advance? It doesn't add up.

"Holmes was taken into custody shortly after the shooting, police said, adding he didn't resist when he was arrested," reports a local CBS news affiliate.

"After his arrest, Holmes told police about 'possible explosives in his residence,' Oates said. When police searched his apartment, they discovered it was booby-trapped and evacuated surrounding buildings, police said. Oates said bomb technicians are determining how to disarm flammable or explosive material in the third-floor apartment. He said police could be there some time."

None of this checks out. If you're a killer bent on causing mayhem, why tell the police about your surprise bomb waiting for them back at your apartment?

Holmes was clearly provided with exotic gear...

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To: truthfinder9

Sure it adds up - He had taken several Vicodin and was stoned out of his gourd.


151 posted on 07/21/2012 11:53:46 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: truthfinder9

FOX had some terrific psychiatric analysts on their shows tonight who helped me understand everything that could have been going through the killer’s mind.

Just like the pedophiles when they’re caught in those TV stings, most of them all of a sudden get very compliant and obedient in the face of police and authority figures. These criminals are weak-willed, cowardly people. That’s why both pedophiles and this killer targeted mostly young people who were trapped in a defenseless position. He had no real advantage in fighting the cops and caved into fear.

There is also the possibility that he wanted to get caught. Especially since in his online personal ad, he asked if the women would visit him in jail.

We don’t know what went on in the conversation with cops about the bomb. His plan clearly seemed to be for the music to start at midnight and cause someone to trigger the explosion. My guess is he was bragging to the cops about what they’d find in his apartment, not realizing his plan had failed and no one triggered the bomb in that half hour timespan. He may also have not been targetting cops for whatever reason, and figured if a civilian hadn’t triggered it he didn’t want the cops to do so.

Also, the whole point of this killing spree was for him to get the high of having power and control in a life where he clearly felt he was special enough to deserve more of it than he had. He might have been so drunk on power after the killing spree that he felt arrogant enough to be able to brag about the bombs to the cops and still think they’d fall victim to them.

He also wanted the perceived power that would come from the fame and notoriety he gained from this event. That’s why he targetted the single biggest media event that he had ready access to, the opening screening of what was anticipated to be the biggest movie of the year. This is much less about him being inspired by a movie than it is about him picking the one target that would make the most headlines and capture the public’s imagination. If his plan was to become famous as a killer than trying to associate himself with a very famous movie by imitating its star character and shooting people at a big event for the movie makes perfect sense.

This is less similar to Columbine than it is to someone like Mark David Chapman who targetted John Lennon because he thought he himself was more deserving of the public’s admiration and attention and tried to get it by associating himself with John Lennon in the eyes of the media and history books the only way that he could.


152 posted on 07/22/2012 12:04:41 AM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
First on the list would be his mother, ya know his “You have the right person” Mrs. Holmes..she knew her son had done something bad.

Sounds to me like a quote that could easily have been taken out of context. If they gave details on his address, school, physical description, etc., she could have been basing the positive identification on that. And the "you have the right person" was probably referring to her, i.e., yes, she really is his mother. I don't think she was admitting his guilt, but the parents appear to be intelligent, rational people and might not attempt to deny reality just because they didn't like it.

153 posted on 07/22/2012 12:16:42 AM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Dosa26

What friend? Is there an article?

Gads, if anything crazy happened with me, people could say: She didn’t have any friends but one. I have a best friend since 12 years old (crazy azz liberal, too!) and a few acquaintances along the way, nothing more.

I have not yet read he even had one best friend. Just people who knew him in passing.


154 posted on 07/22/2012 12:19:10 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic
I think he is sick but he is not insane.

I'm not so sure he's crazy. And if he's acting nutty in prison, it may just be an act to try to get off on an insanity plea. This is an arrogant loner who didn't think he needed anybody, because he believed he was superior to everybody. But his vision of himself was out of synch with reality where he was desperate enough to post online personal ads to get sex (this is a last resort for men who have no other options), where he couldn't get a job or the job he thought he deserved, and where he may have been having problems in school.

He concluded that the only way to get himself the "respect" he thought he was due was to stage this very elaborate attack at the most high-profile event where he could pull it off, the biggest midnight movie opening perhaps in history, something sure to draw nationwide media coverage. Because he believes other human beings are inferior to him, it makes no difference to him if this plan required other people to die. Proving to the world and himself that he had what it takes to have power and control over other people was worth more to him than whatever personal consequences for him that could come from this.

155 posted on 07/22/2012 12:41:01 AM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: RacerX1128
It was posted on Drudge that there is a witness who saw a guy in the front row take a cell phone call, got up and went to the emergency door like he was trying to get a signal. The guy comes back, sits down and moments later crazy bat shit walks in from the emergency door and starts killing people.

What we heard before is that the killer was sitting in the theater, left through the emergency exit, and then returned dressed in the combat gear. This witness may be confused and not realized he was watching the same guy the whole time. The cell phone call could have been an alarm on a timer or just fake motioning to make Holmes look more inconspicuous when he was leaving through the emergency exit.

156 posted on 07/22/2012 12:43:32 AM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: JediJones

Snips of lyrics from the new Rush album:

The Anarchist, RUSH - Clockwork Angels Album, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on3lLcAz4YU

I lack their smiles and diamonds; I lack their happiness and love
I envy them for all those things, I never got my fair share of ....

The things I’ve always been denied
An early promise that somehow died
A missing part of me that grows around me like a cage

....I plan my vengeance on my own - and I was always alone

Oh - They tried to get me
Oh - they’ll never forget me.


157 posted on 07/22/2012 12:45:54 AM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Irenic

you have one friend a liberal... can I be yo friend? prrettie pls?


158 posted on 07/22/2012 12:55:26 AM PDT by Dosa26 (JURY NULLIFICATION! IT'S THE LAW)
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To: 21twelve

arg.. rush is rush I lived in the 90’s dammit “RUN TO THE HILLS” “HAMMER OF THE GODS” zep


159 posted on 07/22/2012 1:05:51 AM PDT by Dosa26 (JURY NULLIFICATION! IT'S THE LAW)
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To: 21twelve

arg.. rush is rush I lived in the 90’s dammit “RUN TO THE HILLS” “HAMMER OF THE GODS” zep


160 posted on 07/22/2012 1:06:13 AM PDT by Dosa26 (JURY NULLIFICATION! IT'S THE LAW)
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To: RegulatorCountry
I used to let a Schizophrenic split firewood at my campground to blow off steam. He found it therapeutic. One day, he came in my office with his axe and the voices were telling him that he had to kill somebody. He had not been taking his meds. Considering that I was the only one available and unable to get past him, I sure did some fast talking. I will never forget the look in his eyes. Distracting him by talking about his favorite music group eventually worked. I think the fact that I knew a little about Jim Morrison and the Doors saved my life that day. He was a big guy and I'm sure he had the strength of three at the time. Needless to say, that was the end of his firewood chopping days at my place. He looked positively possessed.
161 posted on 07/22/2012 1:07:40 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: allendale

I know from personal experience with a co-worker that they can be reported by the family, diagnosed with multiple mental illnesses & be returned to the workplace or school on heavy doses of prescribed medication. The current culture in the mental health professions is to reintegrate very ill people into work and school, on the theory that it helps them “heal.”

The doctors will tell you that the best predictor of future violence is past violence. That’s their excuse for doing nothing except prescribing massive doses of drugs with serious side effects. With AZ, VA Tech, and now CO - people knew the person was unstable. There was no dry run. They all went from no attacks to mass murder.

I saw Dr. Keith Ablow give a great interview on O’Reilly. He said that he
will commit people, but many doctors won’t. Even then, I question how long they would remain committed. The perceived answer is the drugs, but who’s to say they don’t cause individuals to become violent.


162 posted on 07/22/2012 2:49:57 AM PDT by Belle22
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To: garjog
Could this mass murderer be an Obama fan?

One look at his picture tells you that.

163 posted on 07/22/2012 3:14:32 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Eye of Unk

What national group hates America with an extreme passion?


Democratic Party.


164 posted on 07/22/2012 3:38:39 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: M1903A1

He planned for the apartment to go up first, drawing the police and fire in droves, just like any city, meanwhile he is hitting the theater across town.


165 posted on 07/22/2012 3:50:35 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: mazda77

I did not know this. Thank you.


166 posted on 07/22/2012 3:54:02 AM PDT by golux
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To: truthfinder9

sick people “don’t add up”.....


167 posted on 07/22/2012 5:11:30 AM PDT by GotMojo
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To: Parley Baer

““Question: How does an unemployed medical student afford $20,000 in weapons gear?””

Just like millions of other students- credit cards or maybe even identity theft.


168 posted on 07/22/2012 5:51:33 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth again.)
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To: chessplayer

The shooter has been implicated as a member of Occupy Wall Street’s Black Bloc division. Here is an article which details what they know about him so far:

More Signs Point to James E. Holmes Having Been Occupy ‘Black Bloc’ member

http://www.examiner.com/article/more-signs-point-to-james-e-holmes-having-been-occupy-black-bloc-member


169 posted on 07/22/2012 5:56:07 AM PDT by Juliathemechanic (Colorado Shooter Likely Occupy Wall Street 'Black Bloc' Member)
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To: The_Reader_David

Looks like less likely schizophrenic, more likely Occupy Wall Street Black Bloc member. Google it.


170 posted on 07/22/2012 5:56:20 AM PDT by Juliathemechanic (Colorado Shooter Likely Occupy Wall Street 'Black Bloc' Member)
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To: Sioux-san

“Did you see my response in post 67 - I do understand now.”

Hi.
Yes. I saw it. My reference to “The Kingdom” was the use of one event to draw in others to a more serious one.

Yes. It’s worth watching. The fact that this occurred at the very beginning of Ramadan is interesting, too.


171 posted on 07/22/2012 6:36:15 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: MagUSNRET
Back in the cage Obama, back in the cage.

This guy did it himself ~ all by himself ~

172 posted on 07/22/2012 6:57:28 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dragnet2

There are at least 150 people who had a close friend or relative injured or killed by this guy. A threatening phone call or two wouldn’t seem all that unexpected ~ of course there are those who want Holmes out on the street!


173 posted on 07/22/2012 7:01:51 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DrewsMum
Try this thought ~ in his delusion he imagined the audience would simply sit there while he shot them all.

Turns out real people don't act that way so they ran away as best they could.

This is consistent with the sort of static thinking exhibited by many leftists and Democrat politicians, and by environmental whackos. They cannot think in dynamic terms ~ so the people they 'help' are always poor, the rich are always rich, as the ocean rises the people stand there and drown, ..... and so on. There are numerous examples.

174 posted on 07/22/2012 7:04:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Juliathemechanic

Some rambling blog posts and a few poorly put together YouTube videos isn’t exactly what I would call conclusive evidence. And that picture of that OWS protester being arrested in NYC doesn’t look anything like Holmes. YMMV.


175 posted on 07/22/2012 7:06:21 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Standard costume stuff ~ you can get it all, plus a gas mask, for under $100.


176 posted on 07/22/2012 7:06:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RacerX1128
The 'he comes back' part wasn't in the eyewitness' story. What came back was James Holmes dressed like a Star Wars stormtrooper with a gas mask, and carrying firearms and tossing tear gas grenades.

Likely James was the dude sitting next to the witness initially ~

177 posted on 07/22/2012 7:10:01 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Irenic

SEE: TEXAS TOWER ~ Charles Whitman ~


178 posted on 07/22/2012 7:15:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Noumenon; All
The Black Bloc crew at the Seattle WTO riot were all very well equipped, curiously so.

Obama wants a civilian security force, just as well equipped as the military.

When Obama and Hillary start collecting guns, the shooting will start. Just what our first Muslim President needs to declare martial law and start rounding up radicals. Anything is on the table for the Muslim traitor.

179 posted on 07/22/2012 7:20:00 AM PDT by politicianslie (Obama: Our first Muslim PRESIDENT,destroying America $1 Trillion at a time! And America sleeps)
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To: Juliathemechanic
I don't think this is the same guy

180 posted on 07/22/2012 7:44:24 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: muawiyah

“I wonder if the POS in the WH will pardon holmes.”

Wouldn’t surprise me if he did. This stupid act only serves to enhance O’Bummer’s agenda for COMPLETE and TOTAL removal/confiscation of guns in America...

Over my dead and cold hands will I give up my guns, IF I had any guns in the first place.


181 posted on 07/22/2012 8:04:41 AM PDT by Progov
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To: muawiyah

“I wonder if the POS in the WH will pardon holmes.”

Wouldn’t surprise me if he did. This stupid act only serves to enhance O’Bummer’s agenda for COMPLETE and TOTAL removal/confiscation of guns in America...

Over my dead and cold hands will I give up my guns, IF I had any guns in the first place.


182 posted on 07/22/2012 8:07:59 AM PDT by Progov
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To: truthfinder9

I find it strange it happened at the start of Ramadan, maybe it was a sacrifice to the mooslim moon god.


183 posted on 07/22/2012 8:38:23 AM PDT by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: Four Things

Your probably correct .
His plotting the attack will be hard to put up a
Mental illness case


184 posted on 07/22/2012 9:36:30 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: truthfinder9

Wouldn’t LEO assume that the apartment was boobytrapped?


185 posted on 07/22/2012 9:43:46 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: combat_boots

I will watch it only if you can assure me that it’s not another Islamopandering flick that tells me about the poor muslim victims. Good muslims to me are really bad muslims (humanized secularized), and they are in the crosshairs of the radicals just as much as we infidels are.

Any how, the bigger picture seems to be getting the guns out of the hands of law abiding individuals. The UN is after our Congress to bring it about thru international authority — and Ramadan has started so maybe Holmes is part of the Jihad? Trayvon didn’t do it for the Fast & Furious crowd. So, maybe the Joker will be able to pull it off.


186 posted on 07/22/2012 9:55:13 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: scooby321
Question: How does an unemployed medical student afford $20,000 in weapons gear?

THe alleged value of his weapons and gear keeps going up with every post. By the end of the day, I expect to read that the value was $50,000. By next Wednesday, the value will exceed the national debt.

Two Glock .40s -- $1200. One Remington 870 -- $400. One Colt AR-15 .223 -- $1400. Total = $4000.

300 12g shotgun shells -- $70. 3000 rounds of .40 -- $900. 3000 rounds of .223 -- $1200. Total = $2170.

Grand Total (before body armor) = $6170.

I read somewhere that he wasn't wearing body armor, but rather a Blackhawk tactical vest ($100). But even body armor can be purchased for under $300. Same for gas masks. Throw in a couple of smoke bombs and tear gas canisters and we're talking $7500 tops and even that's a stretch.

187 posted on 07/22/2012 10:02:08 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Sioux-san

I own the movie and have watched it enough to know it well. It’s a rough go for some people, and one of the characters is whiny. I am indifferent to the end of it, as I have my own perspective. But parts of it are dead on the money. And no, it doesn’t pander.

The only other recent movie that struck me about the Middle East is “The September Tapes.”


188 posted on 07/22/2012 10:30:05 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: CodeToad

I doubt what he had could be had for $2,000. Just the cost of 6,000 rounds of 223 ammo would total more than $3,000 if he shopped around and that doesn’t include taxes or shipping and that is a very optimistic estimate. The AR 15 would be close to a thousand by itself if he were lucky and got it on sale. The body armor, other weapons, other ammo, magazines and booby trap materials would drive the cost up immensely .... and the jerk didn’t seem to be experienced at all which leads me to believe that he spent at least $10,000 but probably more.


189 posted on 07/22/2012 3:26:01 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
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To: Juliathemechanic

I’ve tried to find anything solid online to link Holmes to the Black Bloc OWS faction, but zilch. As I posted on another thread:

From what I’ve been able to find, that claim seems to be based on a coincidence of names, just like ABC’s false assertion he was a Tea Partier. It seems another James Holmes posted some pro OWS videos on YouTube, and from those and the fact that like Black Bloc members at riots the shooter wore a gas mask and black clothes some PI in Florida came to the conclusion he was in the Black Bloc, which then got “verified” by actual OSW members discussing the PI’s assertion and another YouTube post with screen-shots of their discussion.

Do you have anything solid to back that up, are are you just propagating a meme?

The FReeper of whom I asked that question on the other thread didn’t post anything in reply. If you have something solid, you should share it with us.


190 posted on 07/22/2012 3:30:35 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: equaviator; Parley Baer

Let’s go through it again:

First, Holmes was not an “unemployed medical student”. He was a doctoral student in neuroscience who dropped out at the end of last semester. Unlike med students who take out loans for their whole education, Ph.D. students in the sciences generally get full-ride plus stipend fellowships. It also seems Holmes also got a grant from the NIH (via some sort of program that gave money to his university to make grants to doctoral students). Graduate students can also take out student loans, and in amounts larger than undergraduates. He could easily have had a fair bit of spare money without using either fraud or consumer credit.

Second, the $20K figure was made up by some blogger seemingly out of thin air. Critics in the comments to the blog post suggested that a really good bargain hunter could have acquired Holmes’ kit for $2K, I priced it out to $5K, other FReepers suggest $7500 tops.


191 posted on 07/22/2012 3:42:07 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David

I think it’s obvious that he knew better but at some point decided to stop caring. Worse than that...to do irreparable harm to his fellow citizens and to his own life.

It’s just another sign of the times. No anti-gun laws can do much to prevent people from behaving like that. It’s all in the way life is being portrayed in our culture, which seems to be more pop culture than any other unless we’re also talking about multiculturalism, not to mention what’s actually happening out there in the busy, busy world.


192 posted on 07/22/2012 4:24:50 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth again.)
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To: truthfinder9

If you integrate all the variables in the equation........ Obama’s fault


193 posted on 07/22/2012 4:28:10 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: MagUSNRET

It is much harder to stop a crazy person than you would think.


194 posted on 07/22/2012 4:46:18 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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