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Let's put Aurora in perspective
Vanity

Posted on 07/22/2012 4:56:11 PM PDT by klb99

Remarks I will never hear on the lame-stream media:

1)Tens of thousands of Americans bought firearms and ammo in the last 6 months and did NOT open fire in a crowded theater.

2) Hate to be the one to tell you but an AR-15, 2 Glocks and a 12-gauge is NOT an arsenal. It's not even a lot of firearms - as things go.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: vanity

1 posted on 07/22/2012 4:56:12 PM PDT by klb99
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To: klb99

There will be more and more crazies as our culture continues to circle the drain.


2 posted on 07/22/2012 5:00:14 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: klb99

“1)Tens of thousands of Americans bought firearms and ammo in the last 6 months “

Make that ‘millions’. Millions of people bought guns and ammo in the last six months.


3 posted on 07/22/2012 5:04:27 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: klb99
On a related issue...

Listen to Congressman Paul Broun's urgent message on the UN Small Arms Treaty!Includes petition! Gun owners only have until July 27th to prepare for this battle...

4 posted on 07/22/2012 5:05:01 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: All

Sorry it’s not a petition but a survey.


5 posted on 07/22/2012 5:06:55 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: klb99

Timothy McVeigh didn’t use a gun.

Neither did the London subway bombers, the 9/11 creeps, many more.

This guy in Aurora was an accomplished bombmaker, from all reports. Take his guns, he’ll use grenades.

Killers will kill. Concentrating on method rather than cause and prevention is short-sighted and stupid.

And Switzerland, one of the most heavily-armed countries on earth, is also one of the most peaceful and crime-free.

For the record, I really do not like guns. At all. Own them, don’t like them.


6 posted on 07/22/2012 5:07:11 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: klb99

Another limiting factor as far as the carnage goes, is that the guy didn’t have a death wish. He was not intent on dying with his victims..if it were the case, it could (would) have been a lot worse. For as methodical as the shooter was, it is obvious to me that he values his own life by the fact that he gave up to the Police outside the theater.


7 posted on 07/22/2012 5:09:10 PM PDT by TheGunny
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To: CodeToad

You are correct - I was warding off ridiculous criticism!
Plus....if you go to the range with older kids/teenagers you can go thru $300-$400 of ammo in a few hours so it’s not even unusual to spend a great deal of money buying ammo online....a fact that libs would ever understand even tho they have higher monthly payments on their Prii and Subarus.


8 posted on 07/22/2012 5:09:48 PM PDT by klb99 (I now understand why the South seceeded)
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To: klb99

Public schools and liberal colleges are breeding these malcontents . In Mexico the civilian population is forbidden to have guns period so our presidents admin. has sent them real nice ones .

Chicago had 41 murders last month ,, making the Colorado incedent look like a small affair . I can hardly wait til this months casuality count is released . Did the president lower the flag for them ???

Feral youths are a product of a liberal agenda . Liberals create a problem so they can apply the politically correct solution they wanted in the first place and created it . What the hell do you think Fast and Furious was all about ,,,,, gun control was their rational .


9 posted on 07/22/2012 5:15:06 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: klb99

In my fantasy world, this is the story I am waiting to hear:

“An assassin stood up in a crowded theater last night and began to open fire on the theater patrons.

Shortly afterwards, an armed theater patron shot and killed the assassin.

The armed theater patron disappeared into the crowd and is not being sought by law enforcement.”


10 posted on 07/22/2012 5:16:29 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: klb99
You don't consider an AR-15 AK-47 assault rifle machine gun, two fully-automatic Glock AK-47 assault rifle revolvers, and a 12-gauge automatic AK-47 assault rifle shotgun with 30,000 round clips for each an arsenal? Someone needs refresher training for vocabulary and for firearms recognition.

ar·se·nal/ˈärs(ə)-nl/
Noun: A collection of one or more weapons or items of military equipment stored by a country, person, or group: "Britain's Nuclear Arsenal" or "Ralphie's Red Rider Air Rifle Arsenal".

Note: These bullets were fired through the theater wall and killed one person in the next theater over and one in Iraq - that sounds like an arsenal to me!


11 posted on 07/22/2012 5:16:43 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jedidah

Jedidiah..your comments are the first I always think of in these situations. It’s the difference in “us” and “them”. My first thought was that if most everyone in the theater had been armed, the shooter would not have gotten off so many shots. His vest was “bullet resistant” according to the police chief...a .357 would have at least knocked him down then he could have been disarmed or killed.

Why libs think that people who don’t obey laws against murder are going to obey gun laws is something they cannot logically explain.


12 posted on 07/22/2012 5:17:23 PM PDT by klb99 (I now understand why the South seceeded)
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To: klb99

You won’t see this discussed either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers


13 posted on 07/22/2012 5:22:20 PM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: Pollster1
"You don't consider an AR-15 AK-47 assault rifle machine gun, two fully-automatic Glock AK-47 assault rifle revolvers, and a 12-gauge automatic AK-47 assault rifle shotgun with 30,000 round clips for each an arsenal? Someone needs refresher training for vocabulary and for firearms recognition. ar·se·nal/ˈärs(ə)-nl/ Noun: A collection of one or more weapons or items of military equipment stored by a country, person, or group: "Britain's Nuclear Arsenal" or "Ralphie's Red Rider Air Rifle Arsenal"."

NAH..if you do though, I suggest you stick to having only one firearm and no more than 50 rounds of ammo for it.
14 posted on 07/22/2012 5:23:51 PM PDT by klb99 (I now understand why the South seceeded)
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To: klb99

Your preaching to the choir buddy, we both know public opinion on gun control will take a turn for the worse. Brace yourselves for more gun control laws coming down the pipeline.


15 posted on 07/22/2012 5:25:08 PM PDT by AmonAmarth (Wherever you go...There you are)
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To: Jedidah

Of all the tools I own, I hate my chain saw the worst.


16 posted on 07/22/2012 5:29:19 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: klb99

How many die from shootings in Chicago’s worst weekends and the media treats it like business as usual?


17 posted on 07/22/2012 5:32:41 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: klb99

No, actually the fact which should put Aurora into perspective is this:

Deaths from mass shootings (which kill 4 or more) per year in the US: 163
(from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/dark-knight-shooting_n_1689505.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular, not my favorite source, but data is data)

People falling/drowning in their bathtub per year: 314 (for year 2000, appears to be about normal-http://danger.mongabay.com/injury_death.htm)

So people might want to consider the fact that bathtubs are considerably more deadly that mass shootings.


18 posted on 07/22/2012 5:56:48 PM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: klb99

Deep.


19 posted on 07/22/2012 5:59:32 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Repeal The 17th
The armed theater patron disappeared into the crowd and is not being sought by law enforcement.”

I thought that scenario out before and I think the police would search out a witness to ID that CCW because he had a firearm in a (Cinemark policy) free fire zone. If caught, the media would perp walk him and conservatives would hail him as a hero.

20 posted on 07/22/2012 6:12:45 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: BerryDingle

“...police would search out a witness...”
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In my fantasy world,
all of the other theater-goers would say they were unable to identify the hero...
...you know...
...because of all the shock and emotion and er’-thing...


21 posted on 07/22/2012 6:18:27 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: drbuzzard

Why We Should Swallow Our Vomit And Vote Straight Ticket

I’m just here to stir the muck ....

Extrapolating from your facts, the salient difference between firearms and soap is that there is no constitutionally protected right—or obligation—to bathe one’s self/skanky a**.
Of course this might explain the olfactory pungeance of OWS, their parents and the like/ilk.
They may use your argument to say that they fear bath tubs and shower stalls.
As a result when they attempt (once again) to burden our 2nd Amendment rights, we will have to pass a law requiring that stinking hippies of all ages, stripes and socio-economic classes adhere to a certain minimum standard of bodily hygiene.
In order to do that we’ll need a A GOP congress and executive branch.
Admittedly, there is no guarantee that a GOP congress and executive branch will be conservative, but I tender for your consideration that it is more likely that Republicans will have higher sanitary standards than Democrats (to wit, Mrs. Barney Frank) and require similar standards from others.
I’m sure that Mitt Romney, as life-like as he is or can be, doesn’t stink up a room like, say, a Reverend Al Sharpton. I mean, they don’t let just anyone try on those celestial undergarments; I’m sure you have to pass some sort of `sniff test’ to become a Mormon bishop
So that’s the choice: a stinking Obama and his anarchic, odoriferous fellow dhimmicrats, or a hygienic GOP and your 2nd Amendment rights.


22 posted on 07/22/2012 6:24:08 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: klb99

*an AR-15 AK-47 assault rifle machine gun

*two fully-automatic Glock AK-47 assault rifle revolvers

*12-gauge automatic AK-47 assault rifle shotgun

There are sure alot of firearms that I’ve never heard of and I have my FFL.

Yesterday I read about an 8ga Remington 1270.

WHO are these people?


23 posted on 07/22/2012 6:26:41 PM PDT by conservativesister
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To: klb99

One of the things I always point out whenever I’m drawn into conversations about things like this is that I could go to the local Home Depot and a gas station and come home with everything I would need to murder a lot of people.


24 posted on 07/22/2012 6:31:13 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: klb99
a .357 would have at least knocked him down then he could have been disarmed or killed.

And a .380 or .38 special between the lights would have put him down, permanently. But a bunch of peripheral hits on arms and legs, would have also taken him out of action, long enough at any rate.

25 posted on 07/22/2012 7:28:52 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: klb99
Let's put Aurora in perspective

Aurora Death Toll = 12

2012 Chicago, IL homicides as of 6/30/2012 = 283

2012 NY City homicides as of 6/30/2012 = 193

2012 Death Toll In Afghanistan as of 6/16/2012 = 144


26 posted on 07/22/2012 7:53:20 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: AmonAmarth
we both know public opinion on gun control will take a turn for the worse. Brace yourselves for more gun control laws coming down the pipeline.

Its almost as if this rampage was made to order to give Obama an issue to inflame anti-gun passions just at the time when liberals are trying to force a UN gun control treaty on the USA.

A suspicious person might wonder if this was another False Flag project (like Fast and Furious), calculated to provide liberals with a gun issue at just the right time to bolster their pro-treaty arguments (and maybe help with Obama's reelection too)


27 posted on 07/22/2012 8:09:32 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: klb99

I’d say the lessons learned are:

1) Make sure your CC (concealed carry) weapons have a well adjusted laser.

2) Target practice like crazy, practicing shooting while diving, running, jumping out of helicopters and repelling down walls if possible

3) save lives first then worry about CC restriction laws later.

Not saying doing these things could have stopped Holmes, but I think several people doing all these things in the audience might have had a better chance at less causalities.


28 posted on 07/22/2012 8:28:20 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Iron Munro

Do we let them disarm us? Never! They can pass all the laws they want. Too many guns already out there. Most of them in the hands of good people ready stop the tyranny of a government hell bent on controlling us.


29 posted on 07/22/2012 10:03:48 PM PDT by AmonAmarth (Wherever you go...There you are)
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To: Pollster1

Thank you for the only laugh I’ve had today. That’s good!


30 posted on 07/22/2012 10:36:25 PM PDT by Steve1789 (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. -A.L.)
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