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CA police shooting stirs protests for a 2nd night
AP ^ | 7/23/2012

Posted on 07/23/2012 4:58:24 AM PDT by markomalley

An officer-involved shooting in this Orange County city that left an unarmed man dead and led to a violent clash between witnesses and police has stirred anger for a second night.

Protesters gathered near the shooting scene Sunday night and expressed their outrage by setting fire to a Dumpster and moving it into the street numerous times as police monitored the scene from a helicopter.

The tense scene followed a day of protest where a crowd stormed the Anaheim Police headquarters' lobby as the police chief prepared to hold a news conference to discuss the case.

The protesters chanted "no justice, no peace" and "cops, pigs, murderers" as officers stood by and watched.

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1 posted on 07/23/2012 4:58:31 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I notice they didn’t shoot the police dog who attacked the innocent bystanders. I guess only the cops count these days.


2 posted on 07/23/2012 5:32:06 AM PDT by Politicalmom (THIS IS NOT A GOP CHEERLEADING SITE!!!)
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To: markomalley

Sounds like mexico to me...


3 posted on 07/23/2012 5:49:08 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: bill1952
Sounds like mexico to me...

Sounds like one more step down the road to civil unrest, race riots, martial law, cancelled elections and dictatorship to me.

4 posted on 07/23/2012 5:53:45 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: markomalley
expressed their outrage by setting fire to a Dumpster

That tells me everything I need to know.
5 posted on 07/23/2012 5:57:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
“expressed their outrage by setting fire to a Dumpster”

The OWS types in Europe have this down pat. They prepare the dumpsters in advance. This is done by “throwing away” several cardboard boxes followed by a gallon of diesel fuel followed by two old automobile tires. Then at the right time, one of the OWS pukes “disposes” a lit road flare in the prepared dumpster. How was he to know?

6 posted on 07/23/2012 6:17:28 AM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: Politicalmom

“Dunn said the dog accidentally got out of a patrol car.”

Hmmm, and proceeded to attack people without being commanded to do so.
Looked like they had some trouble as well getting the dog to stop.


7 posted on 07/23/2012 6:18:26 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Gabrial
setting fire to a Dumpster and moving it into the street numerous times

This implies that someone is moving it out of the street numerous times. Were they having a tug of war using a flaming dumpster? Sounds fun!

8 posted on 07/23/2012 6:24:34 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: markomalley

Change ‘protesters’ to looters, drunks, and assholes who should be shot and you have a good headline.


9 posted on 07/23/2012 6:28:33 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

They are merely warming up in the event that Obama is thrown out of office.


10 posted on 07/23/2012 6:32:11 AM PDT by monocle
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To: Right Wing Assault

setting fire to a Dumpster and moving it into the street numerous times

This implies that someone is moving it out of the street numerous times. Were they having a tug of war using a flaming dumpster? Sounds fun!


These will in the future be known as “DEM-sters”


11 posted on 07/23/2012 6:38:43 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: bill1952
You are woefully ignorant in this case ~ if they did this in your neighborhood ~ shoot an unarmed man, then fire rubber bullets into the crowd of neighbors who came around to see what was happening, you would be agitated.

The problem here is they have an awful lot of video and none of it looks good for the cops.

Now, don't get me wrong, those cops are undoubtedly totally innocent, and the dead guy must have hidden his firearms just seconds before he got shot, and the cops didn't really shoot him or anything, then when the dogs were set loose on the crowd of people which included women and children (who had not apparently understood this would happen), that was just another faux police riot done in a Hollywood studio.

And you imagine what about Mexico? Listen to the accents.

12 posted on 07/23/2012 6:49:33 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I doubt a cop has ever drawn his gun in my neighborhood.


13 posted on 07/23/2012 6:55:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
No, it doesn't tell you everything you need to know. I've actually driven through this neighborhood.

It's all residential ~ well tended, cut lawns, bushes, everything nice and neat ~ just to the North there's a small shopping center where you could presumably find a dumpster ~ and those things catch fire all the time everywhere ~ particularly on weekends when there are no scheduled pickups.

I do not know anything about adjoining neighborhoods, but all that seems to have happened here is the cops saw a 'suspect'. He ran. The cops shot him.

So, the claim is he was unarmed, the cops turned their dogs loose on a woman with her baby (Film at 11:00 no sh-t!) then the cops fired rubber bullets at the neighbors gathered to watch.

I guess a sort of panic ensued.

About that time I'd imagine you and I would be finding some dumpsters to barricade each end of the street to keep out more cops.

There were a dozen or more cops parked there all night last night ~ like maybe they were waiting on the warrants to do a house to house search or something ~

14 posted on 07/23/2012 6:58:16 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek
We had thousands of cops in this neighborhood and nearby after 9/11 because the AlQaida ground control team had lived nearby.

Guns were drawn ~ all a day late though.

Remember, when seconds count the cops are but minutes away.

15 posted on 07/23/2012 7:00:08 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: markomalley

Another report here

Near-Riot Breaks Out After Officer-Involved Shooting In Anaheim

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/07/21/officer-involved-shooting-reported-in-anaheim/

In this video - which is the same as the one on the web page above (except it is uncut)- near the end of the video (2:54) the reporter says that police asked if there were cell phone videos so they can purchase the videos.

ANAHEIM POLICE SHOOT AT WOMEN AND CHILDREN, UNLEASH K-9 ATTACK DOG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZV3iyMz470&feature=player_embedded


16 posted on 07/23/2012 7:04:38 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: muawiyah
Conservatives better start paying attention. The police are agents of the state and have been militarized far beyond the requirement to do their jobs. When the police realize that there isn't enough tax payer dollars to pay for their lavish benefits and pensions what do you think is going to happen? If an out of control government declares martial law and sends these police door to door to round up guns (and they will have all the information they need to do it provided by the ATF from their illegally maintained database of firearms purchases, NFA weapon tax stamps, and local conceal carry permit records) what are "law and order" conservatives going to do then?

"Government is not reason, nor eloquence. It is force. And like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearsome master." -- George Washington

17 posted on 07/23/2012 7:26:26 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: markomalley

It’s gonna be a long hot summer.


18 posted on 07/23/2012 7:29:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: muawiyah

The video below shows the well tended lawns you spoke of.

“He’s Still Alive!” Video Emerges of Immediate Aftermath of Anaheim Police Killing of Manuel Diaz

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2012/07/manuel_diaz_anaheim_police.php

The source (who requested anonymity) was on the scene, and audio from the video confirms what eyewitness accounts have confirmed but which police refuse to do: that Diaz was shot in the head.

The most harrowing part of the video, however, is the fact that Diaz was alive—and police stood there for over three minutes and did nothing. Instead, they seem more concerned with pushing witnesses away from the scene, the better to diminish the video quality of the footage, when they weren’t actively trying to block the source from recording.

Diaz is visibly twitching at the very beginning of the video. It’s not until about 3:13 into the video that police finally turn over Diaz, whose head is bloodied beyond belief.

Anaheim PD July 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RIwjUQYnWMM


19 posted on 07/23/2012 7:49:39 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: AppyPappy
It’s gonna be a long hot summer.

We knew it would be.
20 posted on 07/23/2012 7:50:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Durus
The police are agents of the state........an out of control government declares martial law and sends these police door to door to round up guns

I guess you should move to my small city then. No one in my department is an "agent of the [federal] state" nor are we going to take orders from said "federal state" to "round anyone up". I'm paid to enforce local and state laws, there is no law that exists that makes me a subordinate automaton to any federal entity. This isn't Europe, where the police are federal police. Here in the us the local & county police are separate from the us gov't.
In all likelihood the feds would attempt to subvert our police authority completely and probably issue a decree disbanding all local police in the USA. The black helicopters arrive and they're not going to go to the dumb beat cops and give them MIB credentials and secret alien equipment.
Anyway, I know of no police in the surrounding towns that would turn into evil decepticons and rape and pillage and kill the local citizenry like nazi ss if the Big Giant Obama Head suddenly told us to do so on our in-car computers.
21 posted on 07/23/2012 8:29:50 AM PDT by brent13a
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To: markomalley

Everyone should withhold comment until they watch the video.

I am sure more video of the incident will be posted in the next few days.


22 posted on 07/23/2012 8:31:04 AM PDT by wrench
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To: wrench; cripplecreek; AppyPappy; Durus; muawiyah; maine yankee; monocle; Doc Savage; kanawa

This article and video are from Saturday’s coverage of the incident. Other articles about events on Sunday are at the OC Register. http://www.ocregister.com

Through searching for articles, it appears that the local stories in this case give a better picture of what happened.

If you wait until the story hits the AP or Reuters the story is washed of important details.

Fatal police shooting incites melee in Anaheim

http://www.ocregister.com/news/dunn-364896-officer-police.html

About 4 p.m., officers chased three men for unknown reasons and caught up to one of them in front of an apartment complex in the 700 block of North Anna, Dunn reported.
“At that time the officer-involved shooting occurred,” he said.
Neighbors and friends, however, demanded answers, asking for Anaheim Police Chief John Welter to show up and address the crowd.
“We were all waiting for him to come and talk to the community and give us an explanation. Why kill this man?” said Yesenia Rojas, a 34-year-old woman who lives in the neighborhood and said she knew the man as a good person.
Dunn said the officers shot the bean bags and pepper balls because the crowd was getting too close to the officers who were trying to detain a person suspected of being with a group that attempted to throw a bottle or rock at police.

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Police reportedly tried to buy any video taken by witnesses on their cellphones. Dunn said that he didn’t know whether the allegations were true. He said it’s unclear whether it’s against Anaheim Police policy to do so but said that the agency would look into the matter.

In the past, Dunn said, that officers will ask for cellphone video as evidence, but that he doesn’t know of instances where officers would pay for it.


23 posted on 07/23/2012 9:00:54 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: brent13a
You are an agent of the state. You are paid by taxes collected for that purpose and ultimately report to the governor of the state although I suspect your chain of command gets a bit complicated. It does not matter if you are an agent of the Federal or State government if you think about it for more than a few minutes.

The black helicopters arrive and they're not going to go to the dumb beat cops and give them MIB credentials and secret alien equipment.

You are trying to make it sound silly but the federal government has been providing "local" law enforcement with military grade weaponry for years. I'm sure you know of a swat team with an APC (or two) and belt fed machine guns, and while I'm of the mind that people should be able to buy whatever it is they can afford, I'm not fond of agents of the state being armed better than citizens. I also don't like the way "local" police have started calling citizens "civilians" as if the local police were in the military or something.

Anyway, I know of no police in the surrounding towns that would turn into evil decepticons and rape and pillage and kill the local citizenry like nazi ss if the Big Giant Obama Head suddenly told us to do so on our in-car computers.

History is filled with examples counter to your point and while you may think "It could never happen here" that's what all the people were saying where it historically has happened. One way to prevent this growing problem is to make sure that the police only have those weapons they need to do their job, and to make sure citizens have legal access to those same weapons and more. Citizens are supposed to be, after all, the largest check against an out of control government.

When agents of "the state" whether "local" state or federal have significantly better arms than that of citizens, when citizens start to have their ability to lawfully purchase arms clearly infringed, when governments begin colluding to deprive citizens of arms, then it's not long before something serious is going to happen. I hope for all of our sakes that you are correct that the "local" police will be part of the solution and not part of the problem.

24 posted on 07/23/2012 10:15:08 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: bill1952
Like many other regions, Disneyland and the greedy restaurant/hotel owners loved the government dumping tons of low wage illegal labor in their laps. They get their hotels cleaned for cheap, restaurants staffed with employees making 1980s wages etc.

They could care less what chaos this creates for private sector America.

25 posted on 07/23/2012 11:24:13 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Whenifhow
Watching the video i see a really big problem with the AP, et al, stories ~ particularly the police story.

Guy is behind a big fence. "They" said he ran down an alley.

Sure, right ~ another story says he was shot at the front entrance to the apartment building.

But that's not the front entrance.

Raising questions of (1) Where was he shot, (2) Did the cops drag/carry his body around the fence before the guy with the video cam came along, (3) Why were they putting up police line tape so far from the site of the killing if, in fact, that's where it took place, (4) Which gets us back to the question of where was he shot ~ where is the area they need to control, what did they do with the people living right there who may have come out to see what happened.

The cop story really doesn't hang together yet so we'll need to keep our eyes on this one.

Where is the K-9 unit right then, or did they come later, and for what? Who opened the dog's cage? I"m pretty sure it wasn't the dog eh.

26 posted on 07/23/2012 11:37:49 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Durus; brent13a
Remember this?

"Ok, let's put a flash mob here, and a dumpster burning there, and now we turn off the lights."

"Hey, I've got an idea. Leave the lights on at just that house."


27 posted on 07/23/2012 12:31:10 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Sounds like one more step down the road to civil unrest, race riots, martial law, cancelled elections and dictatorship to me.

I heard that on Dec 21, 2012, our new Socialist overlords are going to announce the end of the sovereign United States, and the new office of Grand Dictator of the Western Hemisphere.

28 posted on 07/23/2012 12:35:24 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Politicalmom
Who takes a baby and kids to a potential violent protest???

I'm thinking these parents aren't real smart.

I used to live in Anaheim....grew up there. Used to be a nice place to live. Most of it is Northern Mexico now.

29 posted on 07/23/2012 12:44:36 PM PDT by Osage Orange (8675309)
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To: bill1952

Sounds like the cops already knew this guy.


30 posted on 07/23/2012 1:22:25 PM PDT by Crcl1
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To: Osage Orange

From the phrase “spilled into the neighborhood”, I figured that the people sitting on the grass with a baby carriage were just caught up in the mess.


31 posted on 07/23/2012 1:40:29 PM PDT by Politicalmom (THIS IS NOT A GOP CHEERLEADING SITE!!!)
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To: Osage Orange
Used to be Mexico in fact. When my folks were first out there messing around with furs, the place was run by Spain, and then Mexico.

Doesn't ever surprise me to find hispanics in California ~ particularly along the old rivers.

32 posted on 07/23/2012 3:34:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
I grew up with plenty of kids named Garcia, Flores, Hernandez, etc....They spoke perfect English. Their parents spoke English.

It's NOT the same now....

33 posted on 07/23/2012 8:54:50 PM PDT by Osage Orange (8675309)
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To: Osage Orange

We are talking about a particular neighborhood. It looks to be one of the oldest parts of Orange county ~ it’s still that way there.


34 posted on 07/23/2012 8:57:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
We are talking about a particular neighborhood. It looks to be one of the oldest parts of Orange county ~ it’s still that way there.

You were last there, when?

35 posted on 07/23/2012 9:12:32 PM PDT by Osage Orange (8675309)
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To: Osage Orange
Within the last 5 or 6 years, plus I used Google.com to get a ground level view to see what it's like.

And, you were there when? And do you have pictures?

36 posted on 07/24/2012 5:22:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

>You are woefully ignorant in this case ~

1) I am not “woefully ignorant and your post is outright rude.

>if they did this in your neighborhood ~ shoot an unarmed man, then fire rubber bullets into the crowd of neighbors who came around to see what was happening, you would be agitated.

I am not defending the police here, but in MY neighborhood we do NOT crowd into the street with flaming dumpsters when there is a problem.

Rioting in the streets sounds seriously like a 3rd world country - or inner city - which may be a small difference to be sure.

And thats the way that it is, thank you.


37 posted on 07/24/2012 9:23:44 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: bill1952
The flaming dumpster wasn't an issue until after the shooting started.

It's always best to prepare yourself by first reading the stories and figuring out the time line.

Again, in my neighborhood we don't have a dumpster handy, and neither did they ~ it was ACROSS on the other side of the main drag to the North in a small shopping center. Some kids dragged it across the street (probably had wheels).

What were they supposed to do to stop the shooting? Maybe call the Anaheim police?

38 posted on 07/24/2012 10:00:09 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
I have family living there.

I was there three years ago.

39 posted on 07/24/2012 12:01:42 PM PDT by Osage Orange (8675309)
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To: Osage Orange

On North Anna?


40 posted on 07/24/2012 12:16:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Not on N. Anna........

They live in SoCal. They know the area.

I grew up...on E. Redwood...right near N. Anna. I know the area. I played baseball at Edison Park...I went to school at Sycamore Jr. High. I KNOW the area.

And I also know...how it's deteriorated.

41 posted on 07/24/2012 12:23:54 PM PDT by Osage Orange (8675309)
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To: Osage Orange
You go North of there 2 or 3 miles and one of my many brothers in law bought a crummy old 1920s house with a two acre yard that was only 60 feet wide ~ that would have been a farm field for a truck farm back in the late 1800s.

His grandmother owned what is now the Walt Disney parking lot (further South of course).

One of the family members owned a small shopping center about half way in between, and other inlaws own a business in La Habra.

Another fella' on the daughter in law's side owns a business just off Disneyland.

I have actually driven all the way around Anna Drive having first stopped at the shopping center ~ after being lost going to Nixon's Library/boyhood home.

When we go to LA or Souvrn' CA we visit dozens of people living all over the place in San Diego, LA, Orange and Riverside counties.

Lots of those places were already heavily hispanic 40 years ago!

I think people are mistaken when they think either of 2 things ~ (1) That all the hispanics arrived recently in CA, and (2) That the gang thing is a "recent" phenomenon. This has been going on for a very long time only currently there's a more open manifestation of its less desirable aspects.

That is a huge area with millions of people living in 2 and 3 story buildings ~ which makes it almost ungovernable.

Back in the 1930s there were about as many people there as there were in Louisville KY ~ and now there are several times the number you find in Chicago.

That is what is known as a MESS!

The locals were overrun and swamped by the flood of outsiders ~ but some of them are still there. My inlaws are still, in general, kind of where they were and the other old families we know are close too.

Anyone ancestral moved out of there by the late 1850s ~ back to Indiana!

42 posted on 07/24/2012 12:40:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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